"Q: (stoleviathan99) I noticed in an interview that you joked about a Kickstarter-style financed Ferengi faction. While it was a joke, I've noticed more gaming, toy, and entertainment companies using this model of financing. (Mattel just did it with a Castle Greyskull remake by Four Horsemen, by taking pledges for pre-orders.) I personally like it because it aligns paying for rewards with having a say in the content development process. Is that something that Cryptic might seriously investigate?
Dstahl: The Ferengi faction was the joke, but the kickstarter idea is something we?ve discussed because with only so many artists on the team, there is a massive backlog of ships that players want and only so many we can make. However, if we used a kickstarter model, we could potentially add more resources to getting ships that a majority of players want to see in game. Heck there might even be a future when externally designed ships could gain enough player interest that they would end up in STO. The Vesta and Odyssey class starships are a good example of this. It may also help us determine which KDF ships to make, because there have been several KDF ships that we actually lost money on unfortunately. This is one of the reasons why we are holding off on making a ton more KDF ships because we really need to get more KDF players into the game and that is a much bigger issue."
Ears for the Nausicaans. I rolled one and thought, oh, just a species without ears. Then I did that mission in Eta Eridani. You free a couple of KDF prisoners from a Fed base and one them, a Nausicaan had ears. After that my character looked like a guy where they forgot to paint the ears on. I deleted the character.
Perhaps the NPC prisoner is the wrong one, but create a character without ears, Nausicaan or alien, look at it for a while and you know what I mean.
Namely, will you keep things even between all three factions from here on out? Meaning, no more pandering to any one faction (Feds).
That doesn't mean there can't be new toys and ships, just more that the whole focus can't only be releasing more and more things for them only. You have to be willing to actually take a chance and release more stuff for the other two factions now.
Putting that aside, the fact that the KDF side is pretty much finished is great, and you have restored my faith somewhat, I just hope that it can be kept.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Dstahl: " we really need to get more KDF players into the game and that is a much bigger issue."
Was a minor issue to lose money on the ships when they know the faction needed more to entice players.
Thats being corrected and the revenue will rise accordingly.
please feel free to troll all you wish. It has no effect on our desires to see the kdf grow. I figured after three years you feds would be smart enough to realize that by now.
Was a minor issue to lose money on the ships when they know the faction needed more to entice players.
Thats being corrected and the revenue will rise accordingly.
please feel free to troll all you wish. It has no effect on our desires to see the kdf grow. I figured after three years you feds would be smart enough to realize that by now.
He's not trolling, he's correct. KDF is growing, but slowly and there's nothing to tell us what Cryptic's "break even" point is. Until that point, they don't have a reason to make new C-store ships.
And, yes, I play both factions. It's sad that people think in-game rivalries should spill over to the forums.
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Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
He's not trolling, he's correct. KDF is growing, but slowly and there's nothing to tell us what Cryptic's "break even" point is. Until that point, they don't have a reason to make new C-store ships.
And, yes, I play both factions. It's sad that people think in-game rivalries should spill over to the forums.
He is when he says "roll a Fed", espcially when the other guy is asking for Freasan ships.
Not to mention rolling a Fed doesn't solve anything for the KDF, rather the opposite since it would only increase the Fed to KDF player ratio.
You'll also notice that DStahl talks about the need to find out what players want before they create new ships.
Given the rather...unimpressed feedback on the Borty that's a good idea.
They only one who ever asked us what we wanted was Logan othwise Cryptic just drops ships on us and then...well they complained we don't think the Kar'fi was a cool idea.
And frankly what we're doing here and now is we tell them what we want, just like DStahl asked us to. And to tell us when we do what we're asked to do not to do what we've been asked to do and just roll a Fed is class-A trolling in my book.
He is when he says "roll a Fed", espcially when the other guy is asking for Freasan ships.
Not to mention rolling a Fed doesn't solve anything for the KDF, rather the opposite since it would only increase the Fed to KDF player ratio.
You'll also notice that DStahl talks about the need to find out what players want before they create new ships.
Given the rather...unimpressed feedback on the Borty that's a good idea.
They only one who ever asked us what we wanted was Logan othwise Cryptic just drops ships on us and then...well they complained we don't think the Kar'fi was a cool idea.
And frankly what we're doing here and now is we tell them what we want, just like DStahl asked us to. And to tell us when we do what we're asked to do not to do what we've been asked to do and just roll a Fed is class-A trolling in my book.
Ok, im trolling when I said roll a fed, but im sick of kdf players coming over to fed threads and saying if you want x, then roll a kdf.
Simple case as "do as I say but not as I do" you cant argue about keeping kdf uniques off from the federation side when this thread is here to see what the kdf can take from the feds.
TBH Id rather see ships linked to each other via the zen store, eg galaxy class to negh'var etc so it gives me more reason to play an opposite faction.
He is when he says "roll a Fed", espcially when the other guy is asking for Freasan ships.
Yeah "roll a Fed" is out of line.
You'll also notice that DStahl talks about the need to find out what players want before they create new ships.
Given the rather...unimpressed feedback on the Borty that's a good idea.
They only one who ever asked us what we wanted was Logan othwise Cryptic just drops ships on us and then...well they complained we don't think the Kar'fi was a cool idea.
And frankly what we're doing here and now is we tell them what we want, just like DStahl asked us to. And to tell us when we do what we're asked to do not to do what we've been asked to do and just roll a Fed is class-A trolling in my book.
I think we're agreeing vehemently. Cryptic still has to gauge what KDF players want and what will attract more players to KDF before putting out new ships. I've got no problem with discussing options, but I don't think quoting Stahl's reason for this situation is trollng.
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Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Ok, im trolling when I said roll a fed, but im sick of kdf players coming over to fed threads and saying if you want x, then roll a kdf.
Simple case as "do as I say but not as I do" you cant argue about keeping kdf uniques off from the federation side when this thread is here to see what the kdf can take from the feds.
TBH Id rather see ships linked to each other via the zen store, eg galaxy class to negh'var etc so it gives me more reason to play an opposite faction.
Wait, who said they wanted to "take from the feds" here?
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Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
5 Tactical console ship, escort carrier and more science ships, 180 degree torp, aux dhcs, science carrier (vesta).
Though I do have a question, why hasnt the KDF got the Fleet Karfi yet? Its a KDF defining ship and deserves fleet status.
Also, im dead against Galaxy and Galaxy x getting hangar bays.
How is that "taking from the feds" though? Giving KDF more science ships is somehow taking away from the Federation? A 5 tac console ship? Escort carrier?
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Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Thanks Roach for posting this and still strongly supporting this great faction.
Costumes, we are really lacking them, I seriously thought LoR was going to give us like 6 new uniforms but there were none and so my wallet stayed closed. When will be get more c-store costumes and why did the Romulan faction get fingerless gloves when KDF players have been asking for them for years? There are many canon costumes still not done (or completed as in terms of TOS costume) for the KDF, plus many non-canon ones that your great team of artists could come up with, just going by what the Romulans got in non-canon outfits.
We will finally see a shift in focus where the KDF, still quite unfinished get several new unique KDF styled missions each season to replace the Federation missions in our lineup? Perhaps some more Fek'Lhri, House Rivalry, Gorn Rebellion and some Hur'Q missions. I'd also love to see some missions were we expose some top ranking Starfleet and Federation personnel as Undine to continue the story first created with this game.
Science ships are something the KDF really lack, will we see something like the Vesta or the D5 posted in the Fleet yards section of the forums coming to the KDF side soon? http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=674011
5 tac console, 5 fore weapon escort, when can we get something like this so we can get on par with the Fleet Defiant on the Federation side?
When will the pivot point on the Raptors be fixed? It's a major turn off for a lot of KDF players as it is misleading with it's turn rate and makes it harder to get your weapons on target unlike Naucassian Destroyers and Fed Escorts.
Lethean and Ferasan ships, will we seen any soon and will be be getting an escort carrier since the Federation got carriers? Would love to see the circle become complete. The Farasan's are really popular and a ship(s) for them would sell like hotcakes on a cold winter day. Letheans are cool as well and would help to give all KDF species a ship.
Can we get more non-Klingon ships that aren't just focused on a particular line, for example an Gorn escort, Naucassian cruiser and Orion science ship etc.
Why did KDF and Federation players get access to Nimbus, when the missions are written from a Romulan point of view and make no sense whatsoever for KDF players, especially Orions? Could they be reworked where you perhaps help Hassen rather than fight him. This is also true for the FE, if you're determined to keep them for the KDF, could they be reworked to give the KDF a more KDF style experience, most KDF players I talk to (in fleet and zone chat) don't play them due to them not feeling KDF at all.
With the introduction of the Romulan Battlecloak, the Klingon Birds of Prey who has always paid dearly for it are seriously out of date and not really viable outside PvP. Could they be given a buff, a better shield modifier, more hull (maybe 10K more) and a 5th fore weapon slot considering what an iconic ship the BOP is in Trek?
With Nukara, before LoR it was said that Fleet Marks would remain, however when it went live they were taken away. With how hard the queues are on the KDF many players have been forced to play Defera. Which is also hard to get a team together to play the hards, plus it's the Borg and I and many others try to avoid fighting them on-ground as they are a real pain. Can Fleet Marks be added back to Nukara, perhaps using Defera as a template for rewards for Nukara and other future Reputation zones to help smaller KDF fleets?
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
How is that "taking from the feds" though? Giving KDF more science ships is somehow taking away from the Federation? A 5 tac console ship? Escort carrier?
Because science ships where unique to the Federation fleet compared to Carriers which where as well as currently full universal bops unique to the kdf.
As for 5 tact escorts, why not, gives a reason to stay playing fed.
Escort carrier is to kdf battle carrier and cruiser carrier.
Because science ships where unique to the Federation fleet compared to Carriers which where as well as currently full universal bops unique to the kdf.
As for 5 tact escorts, why not, gives a reason to stay playing fed.
Escort carrier is to kdf battle carrier and cruiser carrier.
Well, that's a nice idea, and I have nothing against it, except that its not what is currently in the game. Not including lock box ships, if KDF had stayed the only faction to have carriers, then I think it would be fine that FED have the only science ships. But that didn't happen, KDF got science ships, and FED got a carrier. If FED and KDF consoles had stayed FED and KDF, that would have been fine, but it didn't. Right now, the unique thing for the KDF is only its BoP (okay, shared with the Romulans, but I can overlook that, its from the source material), and the FEDs have escort carriers and five forward weapons. Now, if we already didn't have this swapping of faction ship types and consoles, okay, it can stay. But Cryptic already started down the slope and I don't see them stopping.
So, I might not like it, but since I think it is going to happen anyway, might as well put in a bid for something.
Because science ships where unique to the Federation fleet compared to Carriers which where as well as currently full universal bops unique to the kdf.
As for 5 tact escorts, why not, gives a reason to stay playing fed.
Escort carrier is to kdf battle carrier and cruiser carrier.
The main issue with the 5 tact/fore weapons ship is balance, it gives a distinct advantage to one side , this is one of the reasons that many people have stopped bothering to PvP. Uniqueness is fine when it doesn't TRIBBLE up the balance of the game. Its not like the only unique KDF item , the BOP is counterpoint to the Andorian ships.
Thanks for all the responses. Its making for a great list and we at GoS are looking forward to interviewing Dstahl in a nice casual atmosphere that comes from an area of non-angst from the klingon fanbased. It'll be nice to just ask without the looming "you hate us" feelings in the background.
We have shot to honestly air our desires! Keep it comming!
You know, there was huge uproar about then per-release ... it stop the moment people say those ships.
They are paper guns, forget glass cannons, these are paper cannons ... its still a 7 slots ship, same as escorts, its outgunned by Battlecruisers.
The BoP is far more reliable because it actually can HAVE damage control, the only worst ship is the Defiant if you discount the Kumari variant and that is IF they put that Universal Lt on something else besides Tactical were then the Defiant will continue to have a edge.
The only way the a Kumari is dangerous within its 45? degree DHC angle, outside you just have to worry about 2 turrets, unless it carries beams.
Well, agreed, the KUMARI is a paper cannon. Thing has to receive regular healing to stay alive in PvP. HOWEVER, what about the Charal and Khyzon? They have 5 fore weapon slots and more durability. . .the difference is the 5th tactical console, and having the the 5th fore slot is more important in the long run, I think.
The BoP has the problem of a slightly lower shield modifier than even the Defiant and the Andorian ships, and lower hull. If you want to run the bloody things as attack sips, you'll only have a limited amount of room for actual heals on them. I run a Hegh'ta with the Commander and one of the LT slots as tactical, with the LTC spot for Science and the second LT spot for Engineering. The only heals I can really carry are EPtS, RSP, HE, and TSS. I can't even carry Science or Engineering Team, lest they interfere with my dual-Tactical Team setup that provides most of my actual defense. Even with TT1 + EPtS1 up, escorts can shred through my shields like crazy.
So, the BoP can't realistically stay in battle long, which limits its options (hence making the universal boffslots less than pure awesome). Even something like the Charal or Kyhzon is more durable than a BoP.
Any KDF kalimari clone vessel we end up with would have to be just as fragile, if not slightly moreso, than the Ando vessel if for having cloak. If for no other reason.
I do think bops need a U-slot Ensign to keep the apace with STO. Its even canon as the BoP fleet was often updated over being recreated, some BoPs flew for a 100 years, to keep them flying.
Hey Alastor, please send me a message about the KDF pack I mention in my sigbature.
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http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=769201
"Q: (stoleviathan99) I noticed in an interview that you joked about a Kickstarter-style financed Ferengi faction. While it was a joke, I've noticed more gaming, toy, and entertainment companies using this model of financing. (Mattel just did it with a Castle Greyskull remake by Four Horsemen, by taking pledges for pre-orders.) I personally like it because it aligns paying for rewards with having a say in the content development process. Is that something that Cryptic might seriously investigate?
Dstahl: The Ferengi faction was the joke, but the kickstarter idea is something we?ve discussed because with only so many artists on the team, there is a massive backlog of ships that players want and only so many we can make. However, if we used a kickstarter model, we could potentially add more resources to getting ships that a majority of players want to see in game. Heck there might even be a future when externally designed ships could gain enough player interest that they would end up in STO. The Vesta and Odyssey class starships are a good example of this. It may also help us determine which KDF ships to make, because there have been several KDF ships that we actually lost money on unfortunately. This is one of the reasons why we are holding off on making a ton more KDF ships because we really need to get more KDF players into the game and that is a much bigger issue."
Lost mony on several ships.
Perhaps the NPC prisoner is the wrong one, but create a character without ears, Nausicaan or alien, look at it for a while and you know what I mean.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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Will you treat the three factions equally?
Namely, will you keep things even between all three factions from here on out? Meaning, no more pandering to any one faction (Feds).
That doesn't mean there can't be new toys and ships, just more that the whole focus can't only be releasing more and more things for them only. You have to be willing to actually take a chance and release more stuff for the other two factions now.
Putting that aside, the fact that the KDF side is pretty much finished is great, and you have restored my faith somewhat, I just hope that it can be kept.
Was a minor issue to lose money on the ships when they know the faction needed more to entice players.
Thats being corrected and the revenue will rise accordingly.
please feel free to troll all you wish. It has no effect on our desires to see the kdf grow. I figured after three years you feds would be smart enough to realize that by now.
R.I.P
And, yes, I play both factions. It's sad that people think in-game rivalries should spill over to the forums.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
He is when he says "roll a Fed", espcially when the other guy is asking for Freasan ships.
Not to mention rolling a Fed doesn't solve anything for the KDF, rather the opposite since it would only increase the Fed to KDF player ratio.
You'll also notice that DStahl talks about the need to find out what players want before they create new ships.
Given the rather...unimpressed feedback on the Borty that's a good idea.
They only one who ever asked us what we wanted was Logan othwise Cryptic just drops ships on us and then...well they complained we don't think the Kar'fi was a cool idea.
And frankly what we're doing here and now is we tell them what we want, just like DStahl asked us to. And to tell us when we do what we're asked to do not to do what we've been asked to do and just roll a Fed is class-A trolling in my book.
Ok, im trolling when I said roll a fed, but im sick of kdf players coming over to fed threads and saying if you want x, then roll a kdf.
Simple case as "do as I say but not as I do" you cant argue about keeping kdf uniques off from the federation side when this thread is here to see what the kdf can take from the feds.
TBH Id rather see ships linked to each other via the zen store, eg galaxy class to negh'var etc so it gives me more reason to play an opposite faction.
Yeah "roll a Fed" is out of line.
I think we're agreeing vehemently.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Wait, who said they wanted to "take from the feds" here?
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
5 Tactical console ship, escort carrier and more science ships, 180 degree torp, aux dhcs, science carrier (vesta).
Though I do have a question, why hasnt the KDF got the Fleet Karfi yet? Its a KDF defining ship and deserves fleet status.
Also, im dead against Galaxy and Galaxy x getting hangar bays.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=674011
Added that in now
Hope it's not too late.:)
Because science ships where unique to the Federation fleet compared to Carriers which where as well as currently full universal bops unique to the kdf.
As for 5 tact escorts, why not, gives a reason to stay playing fed.
Escort carrier is to kdf battle carrier and cruiser carrier.
1. Fleet Karfi
2. More BoP with universal consoles (can slot, tact, engi or scie console and unique to KDF)
3. Fleet Guramba
4. Negh'var Reagent class with 1 hangar
Well, that's a nice idea, and I have nothing against it, except that its not what is currently in the game. Not including lock box ships, if KDF had stayed the only faction to have carriers, then I think it would be fine that FED have the only science ships. But that didn't happen, KDF got science ships, and FED got a carrier. If FED and KDF consoles had stayed FED and KDF, that would have been fine, but it didn't. Right now, the unique thing for the KDF is only its BoP (okay, shared with the Romulans, but I can overlook that, its from the source material), and the FEDs have escort carriers and five forward weapons. Now, if we already didn't have this swapping of faction ship types and consoles, okay, it can stay. But Cryptic already started down the slope and I don't see them stopping.
So, I might not like it, but since I think it is going to happen anyway, might as well put in a bid for something.
Nouveau riche LTS member
The main issue with the 5 tact/fore weapons ship is balance, it gives a distinct advantage to one side , this is one of the reasons that many people have stopped bothering to PvP. Uniqueness is fine when it doesn't TRIBBLE up the balance of the game. Its not like the only unique KDF item , the BOP is counterpoint to the Andorian ships.
Fixed now though. (and a scout raptor is an awesome idea btw)
Happens to all of us at some point.;)
We have shot to honestly air our desires! Keep it comming!
R.I.P
Anything for Ferasans?
Oh, yes, I'm in the Ferasan Shadow Force BTW.
EDIT: No, the starbase project things aren't Ferasans. They are Ferocians, they have no tails underneath the cape.
Non-klingon improvements will be asked about
R.I.P
Will KDF Roms ever get to do KDF side missions, since Fed Roms can do Fed side missions?
Now that the KDF is 1-50 again, will the KDF get a T2 C-Store raptor and cruiser with new consoles?
Well, agreed, the KUMARI is a paper cannon. Thing has to receive regular healing to stay alive in PvP. HOWEVER, what about the Charal and Khyzon? They have 5 fore weapon slots and more durability. . .the difference is the 5th tactical console, and having the the 5th fore slot is more important in the long run, I think.
The BoP has the problem of a slightly lower shield modifier than even the Defiant and the Andorian ships, and lower hull. If you want to run the bloody things as attack sips, you'll only have a limited amount of room for actual heals on them. I run a Hegh'ta with the Commander and one of the LT slots as tactical, with the LTC spot for Science and the second LT spot for Engineering. The only heals I can really carry are EPtS, RSP, HE, and TSS. I can't even carry Science or Engineering Team, lest they interfere with my dual-Tactical Team setup that provides most of my actual defense. Even with TT1 + EPtS1 up, escorts can shred through my shields like crazy.
So, the BoP can't realistically stay in battle long, which limits its options (hence making the universal boffslots less than pure awesome). Even something like the Charal or Kyhzon is more durable than a BoP.
I do think bops need a U-slot Ensign to keep the apace with STO. Its even canon as the BoP fleet was often updated over being recreated, some BoPs flew for a 100 years, to keep them flying.
Hey Alastor, please send me a message about the KDF pack I mention in my sigbature.
R.I.P