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Nerf need to Defense of new romulus
shrinpo1
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I am doing this mission in the level required ship, i.e the D'deridax, which is big fat and slow, does not turn fast, and i have came across this mission which requires you to kill 3 waves of a fleet which you have to move alot, i have actually died over twenty times due to the cone effect weapon of the elchi ships as it hits for 20k or removes 1 side of your side, your not going to ever do this mission and not die due to this, this mission is way unfair on how hard it is, im constantly getting caught by 3 or 4 of these cone effect weapons, going in every direction in space which means i can not get away from it which means i die, and die and die, its highly annoying.
Please nerf this slighly not alot just so im not dieing every 2 seconds
Please nerf this slighly not alot just so im not dieing every 2 seconds
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Only option is to overtank it to a point when you can eat it. Not that far in romulan storyline to see if it is goning to work with soo many cone firing enemies.
The allied ships are supposed to help you out, but they get wiped out very quickly.
What I did to finish the mission was I killed the dreadnaughts one at a time (they are the only ships that don't respawn on this wave), which allowed the named allied ships to stop being on continuous repair timers and actually help out.
The strategy I used to kill the dreadnaughts was: decloak (alpha strike), use all damage boosting abilities, and whatever tactical abilities and any other abilities to boost damage or weaken the enemy ship. Then, when you start taking damage, use heals at your discretion. When you run out of heals you will want to use the warp shadows singularity ability, to give your enemies a distraction when you cloak (then go back to step 1). Note: It can take between 4 and 7 passes with this method to kill a dreadnaught (this method also took me about an hour and a half to complete just this wave), also, to avoid the cones, use evasive maneuvers.
What I think that the only nerf that this mission needs is for the enemies to not continuously respawn. That was my really only annoyance with this mission, as it would have made it a lot easier.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
My suggested fix was to the allied ships: include more named vessels on the Romulan side (i.e.: R.W.W. Deihu) and toss the repair mechanic aside in favor of the "infinite-1-hit-point".
It was likely meant to be tastefully epic. It instead came out a un-fun in a very dragged out fashion. So much for an epic impression over a capstone of the Romulan storyline.
There isn't a load out which could defend against this.
It's pretty bad when one hit from any weapon can severely damage the hull of a fully-shielded D'deridex. When there are several enemies with this same weapon, you see just how futile this mission can become and how your friendly NPCs all die within seconds. :mad:
There were quite a few threads about this on the Tribble Feedback forum, one of which I created. The Devs should be well aware of this problem by now. I'm surprised the mission made it to the main server in its Tribble state.
Other than nerfing the Elachi instakill, the only thing I could think of would be to make this a five-player mission complete with its own PvE queue. That might actually be fun too.
All my allied ships die instantly and that instant death cone is pretty rediculous, it needs to be nerfed for sure, though if you notice it does energy damage, and reverse shield polarity will actually ABSORB it, instantly healing shields to max. Don't know if thats intentional, but it worked for me repeatedly, both in this mission and in other elachi missions.
To be honest the part that hurt me worse is that each of the enemy ships uses different subsystem disables on me, ending up with my entire ship disabled, and only letting me do anything for a few seconds before I'm crippled.
The first 30 levels or so were fun, interesting, and occasionally challenging. Then a number turned tedious and distinctly un-fun. This mission can't be finished as designed, at least for many captains/ships.
Thanks for the advice here to zerg/die the fleet command ship, as it only took me maybe 6 or 8 deaths once I used that approach. Warp plasma was helpful and blowing up right next to him would add a nice kaboom of damage as well.
Seriously, the design for this is a disaster and when more Romulan captains reach this point the forums will be flooded with "WTF!?" posts.
-Lens
I didn't have too much trouble with it in my D'D. >_>
Cruise in a little from side. Activate damage buffs, drops C:SV on them, make sure to take a couple out. Start moving towards them, mobs turning towards you now. Clip over first set, singularity jump across the middle. Then eject warp plasma and evasive right through, curve back towards the rear of your fleet; When out of mob ranges battle cloak after popping hazard emitters to repair what 10 - 20% hull damage you'll take. Rinse and repeat.
TT1, C:SV1
EptS1, RSP1, Aux2Struct2, EWP2
EPtS1, RSP1
HE1 , HE2
When faced with overwhelming numbers, always do hit and runs.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
It requires you to have mastered Romulan game mechanics and warbirds mechanics.
In other words, does the player know how to play as a Romulan?
Hit and Run tactics seem to work the best chipping off the support ships.
Once they are eliminated the FED & KDF ships will actually take out the dreadnaughts by themselves, but feel free to give them a helping hand...
Admiral Sovak
Does anyone remember when we used to be explorers...
When you're playing at standard difficulty level the Defense of New Romulus mission should NOT be this hard!!!
I've been playing STO for almost two years now and I'm not a newbie when it comes to ship combat and I know how to config my ship for maximum DPS.
I would understand getting killed as many times as I did if I didn't know what I was doing but this is ridiculous! I died and respawned so many times that the mission just wasn't fun anymore.
When I finally beat that mission I didn't feel a sense of success ... I was just pissed that I died so many times.
This is a game designed for ENTERTAINMENT. People who want an extremely difficult combat experience can turn up the difficulty but the standard difficulty needs to be easier on that mission.
Devs, you need to NERF that Elachi fleet ASAP!
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Finally get a somewhat challenging PVE to play through 'n people cry nerf.
shameful.
Get a team to fly it with you 'n you'll walk through it, seriously.
Ask in your fleet chat. ask in esd. wherever.
Is NOT THAT HARD.
rofl.
"OMG I had to use my head and all the buttons on my hot bar to beat the evil npc's, NERF THEM!!'
*facepalm
There are players who like to play solo or aren't members of any fleet, you know?
did it solo. change you strat, too many easy missions have got you locked into pew pew to win. this one changes it up where pew pew to win just means you will die...a lot. i prefer this to the snorefest missions and most everything else are, where one strat is all you need.
Donate Brains, zombies in Washington DC are starving.
Standard difficulty in STO has always been about "pew pew" ... and every mission up until Defense of New Romulus can be easily played using the "pew pew" method.
So, if the argument is that by default we should have more difficult missions that require some specific strategies then EVERY mission prior to the Defense of new Romulus (and every mission after) needs to be changed so that they are harder to beat without figuring out the correct strategy.
I think that's the biggest reason we've seen multiple threads now complaining that the Defense of New Romulus mission is out of balance.
Also, if STF missions are any indication, MANY players are ONLY interested in pew pew and don't use their brains. I've learned excellent strategies for all the STF missions over the last two years but I still felt the Defense of New Romulus was more difficult than it needed to be.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Maybe you should change your strat from all offense. I hope it does not get nerfed, most of the missions are easymode, even on hard
Yep.
But hey if snarktoids get to use the words "pew pew" a bunch, why let the facts get in their way.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
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I just caught this and I'd like to know, without sounding sarcastic, who was the moron who came up with this part of the Romulan missions? I'm stuck at New Romulus and there is no mother flipping point to this at all. You're sourrounded by hundreds of enemy ships, along with a capital ship you are supposed to defeat, the allied ships disappear and you're stuck getting frakked by enemy ships over and over again.
It's like some dev decided to put in a capitol ship that you cannot hope to defeat and left it like that as a "HA HA, STO GAMERS, FIGURE THIS ONE OUT, WHY DON'TCHA".
Personally, I wish you guys would stay away from the cat nip because its not funny when you create content that nobody in their right mind can beat, unless you're a dev with a God mode of invulnerability.
P.S., somebody needs to nerf this mission.