Well I don't like to ***** much but I have to say I'm extremely disappointed with having to wait in a Q to play a free game. Which, in retrospect, doesn't make it F2P. Silver and Gold members get in before anyone else is my understanding? How is that F2P?? I spent a lot of money when I 1st started playing this game and I don't/didn't mind at all. I had the money to spend. But being 19k+ last night I figured it would thin out by this morning. Yet, here I sit in Q again. Just checked Q position and now get the "Server Not Responding"!!! Boot!!! Relog and wait in Q AGAIN!!!
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Aww... poor you. Complaining about your access to a game? Grow up and get some more hobbies.
I've spent quite a bit of money on this game. (Hint: that's that stuff you spend when you take mommy's credit card. ) I'd like to see my money in action, thankyouverymuch.
Which moron thought that saying "Patience is a virtue" was relevant to this situation? I don't think it's wise to limit how many players can get on at a time because right now, STO is probably their biggest player base aside from PWI or Neverwinter that just came out into Open Beta. And putting up more servers so players can ACTUALLY play the game is about as easy as riding a bike in my book. Many companies have done it so why is Perfect World the ones with their noses up high and too stubborn to do so? Even when this Expansion was not released, the servers were laggy as hell, so you would think that they would learn their lesson by creating more servers to suffice that issue. I guess I was wrong and gained the thoughts that their stupidity overrides their intelligence a little bit. So until this game actually allows ALL of its players to get on with no limitations or queues, I will be on World of ******** where they actually care about their players' time and dignity.
I've spent quite a bit of money on this game. (Hint: that's that stuff you spend when you take mommy's credit card. ) I'd like to see my money in action, thankyouverymuch.
Meanwhile, TRIBBLE off.
Ah, that pesky butthurt sense of entitlement issue...again, poor you. Sorry I didn't respond right away, I was too busy playing the game while you were whining. I'm off now so there's a slot open just for lil old you. You can keep on thinking you're older than I, but even if that were true, you're certainly not the wiser. Just keep on getting all bent out of shape over a game, ok? And, well, I'll keep on guffawing at your misery. :cool:
While many of you are in here to fill some part of your day with delight at someone else's disappointment, here is yet another for you to get your fill on.
Currently I am in the queue once again after the program crashed and being booted off for going to DS9. During this time I have seen the message "Your program must be verified", then send me back to the launch program and put me in the queue again.
Actually would like an answer and not some lame attempt to be sarcastic.
Queues usually start to come in games around 19.00-20.00 CET not at 16.00 CET when people are at work asleep or just getting up to go to work.
Hell I wish, there was a 1500+ queue at 1400 CET (which would be 0800 EST, 0500 PST), and the fifteen minutes I spent in the queue saw me moving backwards presumably for being bumped for gold/LTS.
NOTE-THING FOR PEOPLE WHO SUCK AT READING GOOD: I'm okay with this. I figured it would happen. I'm playing other games until the queues stop. NO MORE NOTE.
Honestly, I'd rather capacity be limited the first week or so of a major content release, to give the devs time to work out kinks and bugs that slipped through the cracks during beta. I've seen all the new content already, so I'm in no huge rush. I've been playing Human Revolution finally, and am somewhat thankful that my attention is forced there for the time being lest I stop playing and lose track of my character and the plot.
Somebody getting uppity about canon? No problem! Just take a deep breath, and repeat after me:
The queue exists to maintain an acceptable level of service to those who can get in. Last night during prime North American hours, there was basically no queue but most people found the game unplayable. We were all standing around, chatting, but afraid to actually touch anything for fear of a 4-7 minute UI delay. After they went down for maintenance, there started to be a queue. Up to about 30k by the last report I saw from my fleet mates. Once you got in though, the game ran fine. Still some delay, but solidly within the realm of "Playable".
So, yes, the queue sucks, but it's better than the alternative. Cryptic can't build capacity to accommodate the entire player base trying to log in at the same time, it just isn't practical. Just as cellular and even landline phone companies don't build their networks assuming everybody will pick up their phone at the same time. There are far less circuits than customers. Same with an MMO.
I think PWE's account servers may still be having some problems, thus some people unable to log in. That's a separate problem though.
What drove me crazy last night, after waiting an hour following the maintenance to get in (I was stuck at just over 1,000 for at least half that time), it put me back in the wait queue when I changed characters.
To be fair, most MMOs have limits as to how many people can be logged in at any given time. With that said, Cryptic does need to do a much better job of bug/stress testing releases.
I understand what you are saying that most MMO's have limitations to logging on, but what I am saying is that they shouldn't do queues like this. It is just killing their player base and to fix your little comment about the MMO's, WoW does not have log in queues at all when new releases come out. Granted, it is not Free to Play but Blizz makes this company look like ants in the long run.
Yeah, I wish you didn't have to requeue when you change characters. That is kind of balls, but maybe it's Cryptic's way of helping give somebody else a turn. I was aware of that from previous season launches, so once I got in on my main I just stayed on him.
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But that aside, I don't think the log in lines are a problem. Yet. If it persists for awhile, then it might be time to up the server load. For now, it's reasonable to assume this is temporary. And you could always subscribe for a month to get priority log ins for the time being. Monthly membership and Lifetime are equal priority (as I understand it)
Quite frankly, if they would put up more servers like they had before, we would not be having this issue at all. I just want to know why they even merged everything onto one server anyways, that is just the most utterly stupid idea any company could do unless its a small game.
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But that aside, I don't think the log in lines are a problem. Yet. If it persists for awhile, then it might be time to up the server load. For now, it's reasonable to assume this is temporary. And you could always subscribe for a month to get priority log ins for the time being. Monthly membership and Lifetime are equal priority (as I understand it)
But what if you are just playing to enjoy yourself on a space game or because you like to Star Trek itself? What if you don't want to dish out that money for a membership to the game? Don't you think its a little unfair to the F2P players that want to play but membership players have log in priority over us? I think everyone should get queue times regardless paid or not, because if I was to sit in queue for an hour and I knew some paid player got in when I never did, I would be really upset. I feel that Cryptic are just money hungry and looking for ways to make you pay to play this game in the long run. I just feel that they just don't care about their players at all and feel that everything is okay.
Well, they used to do it so people who bought C-points could spend them on either of Cryptic's games. Of course, since we now no longer buy C-points from Cryptic, but Zen from PWE, which works with an online wallet system that makes you manually dole out portions of Zen to however many of the games you play, that is no longer necessary.
So it should stop.
And of course it's temporary. You make the experience suck enough, people will stop coming back for it. And then everyone who's left can log in nice and smoothly. Great business model as usual, guys.
My last attempt I waited 45 minutes in the que only to get d/c 3 minutes later.:mad:
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this is completely unacceptable to have to wait to play a game I have spent almost 100 USD on, GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER OVER THERE AND LET ME PLAY MY GAME:mad:
I've sunk atleast $100 into this game as well. I just tried to get in and I was at the end of a que of over 1,100 waiting to get in. I just simply pulled the plug as I have some time to play now, not in an hour or two when I will be doing something else.
The whole point of a game is to be there when you are able to play otherwise you cant play it and if you cant play it then you dont spend money nor keep it installed. I havent spent money on this game in over 5 months and I refuse to drop another cent in this game cause this is unacceptable as I have a busy schedule and I wasted all day yesterday due to their botched release and now today I got about an hour I can play and cant as I am at the end of a 1,100 que of waiting players. I did this yesterday and I refuse to sit in a que get in and get booted and have to do it all over again.
I hate to say it, but why didn't anyone else learn from blizzards TRIBBLE ups in the past? look at WoW, at one point each expansion brought that game to its knees, even major releases on the conoles have brought online to its knees, time to quote scotty "An engineer always gives himself a wee bit of leeway on paper" in other words, bare minimum doesn't cut it, more servers, its not like you cant dynamicly turn them on and off, like only have the extras running till the expansion hype cools down at least, or upgrade the servers all together
I was going to take advantage of the lifetime pack but I think Ill leave it until they have the server issues sorted out, not going to spend $200 to wait hours to play only to have to queue again when the server disconnects.
I am an LTS player bought countless stuff from the zen store, bought the legacy pack a few weeks ago, and even I seen a queue even though it was a short queue maybe about 2 minutes at the most. Get over yourselves.
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Good insight PWE/Cryptic
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I almost miss my game being disabled by a cryptic patch for the last 6 weeks.
Almost.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I've spent quite a bit of money on this game. (Hint: that's that stuff you spend when you take mommy's credit card. ) I'd like to see my money in action, thankyouverymuch.
Meanwhile, TRIBBLE off.
Here ya go:
yeah right. off to do something else.
Ah, that pesky butthurt sense of entitlement issue...again, poor you. Sorry I didn't respond right away, I was too busy playing the game while you were whining.
Currently I am in the queue once again after the program crashed and being booted off for going to DS9. During this time I have seen the message "Your program must be verified", then send me back to the launch program and put me in the queue again.
Actually would like an answer and not some lame attempt to be sarcastic.
/sarcasm
Hell I wish, there was a 1500+ queue at 1400 CET (which would be 0800 EST, 0500 PST), and the fifteen minutes I spent in the queue saw me moving backwards presumably for being bumped for gold/LTS.
NOTE-THING FOR PEOPLE WHO SUCK AT READING GOOD: I'm okay with this. I figured it would happen. I'm playing other games until the queues stop. NO MORE NOTE.
Honestly, I'd rather capacity be limited the first week or so of a major content release, to give the devs time to work out kinks and bugs that slipped through the cracks during beta. I've seen all the new content already, so I'm in no huge rush. I've been playing Human Revolution finally, and am somewhat thankful that my attention is forced there for the time being lest I stop playing and lose track of my character and the plot.
Spock's Brain.
So, yes, the queue sucks, but it's better than the alternative. Cryptic can't build capacity to accommodate the entire player base trying to log in at the same time, it just isn't practical. Just as cellular and even landline phone companies don't build their networks assuming everybody will pick up their phone at the same time. There are far less circuits than customers. Same with an MMO.
I think PWE's account servers may still be having some problems, thus some people unable to log in. That's a separate problem though.
Unfortunately, I never managed to log in the game (looooong patch & loooooooooooooooger login queue)
I understand what you are saying that most MMO's have limitations to logging on, but what I am saying is that they shouldn't do queues like this. It is just killing their player base and to fix your little comment about the MMO's, WoW does not have log in queues at all when new releases come out. Granted, it is not Free to Play but Blizz makes this company look like ants in the long run.
:rolleyes:
(The rest of this response is not related to the quote)
But that aside, I don't think the log in lines are a problem. Yet. If it persists for awhile, then it might be time to up the server load. For now, it's reasonable to assume this is temporary. And you could always subscribe for a month to get priority log ins for the time being. Monthly membership and Lifetime are equal priority (as I understand it)
My position of the queue not moving but the number of people waiting in queue is growing!
Server down or something?
But what if you are just playing to enjoy yourself on a space game or because you like to Star Trek itself? What if you don't want to dish out that money for a membership to the game? Don't you think its a little unfair to the F2P players that want to play but membership players have log in priority over us? I think everyone should get queue times regardless paid or not, because if I was to sit in queue for an hour and I knew some paid player got in when I never did, I would be really upset. I feel that Cryptic are just money hungry and looking for ways to make you pay to play this game in the long run. I just feel that they just don't care about their players at all and feel that everything is okay.
So it should stop.
And of course it's temporary. You make the experience suck enough, people will stop coming back for it. And then everyone who's left can log in nice and smoothly. Great business model as usual, guys.
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The whole point of a game is to be there when you are able to play otherwise you cant play it and if you cant play it then you dont spend money nor keep it installed. I havent spent money on this game in over 5 months and I refuse to drop another cent in this game cause this is unacceptable as I have a busy schedule and I wasted all day yesterday due to their botched release and now today I got about an hour I can play and cant as I am at the end of a 1,100 que of waiting players. I did this yesterday and I refuse to sit in a que get in and get booted and have to do it all over again.
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