Like you, OP, I was hoping to play as part of the Romulan Star Empire. In fact, before the details were announced, I would bet a majority of people would assume playable Romulans meant the RSE. The RSE Romulans from the shows are what defined what it means to be a Romulan. Alas, that is not what they wanted to give us.
I would love to see a Romulan defection happen. It's probably the thing I want most in this game, now that we're stuck as Romulan Refugees.
Unfortunately, I don't think it'll ever happen. To be honest, I just don't think Cryptic has the drive to do it. (And yes, you may take that as a challenge, devs, I would love to be wrong) It's my opinion that they don't like to admit when they've made a mistake/terrible decision, and further that they tend to maneuver around their mistakes rather than fix them. (For example, when people were upset over not getting a Romulan starbase, they suggested in the future we'll get a Romulan "Fleet Holding" instead. No Romulan Starbase, but we'll add a Romulan Clubhouse for you.)
Doing this defection would require you giving up any unique faction stuff you got from Feds/KDF, including ships, consoles, gear, pets, titles, accolades, etc. That's a lot of work that isn't going to earn them $$, not to mention all the unique Romulan stuff they'd have to replace it with.
This is just the direction they decided to take the Romulans and, whether we like it or not, I think that's all we're going to get. Hold onto that hope though, OP, I sympathize with you.
It could be done as an 'episode pack' on the C Store, with a bunch of missions over the course of which you'd defect. Any prior Rep System skill gains could be kept (they're skills/abilities learned, rather than things rented, right?) and a Tal Shiar version of the Rep stores could keep your access to those goods (spies, Ferengi being paid off, shipments intercepted..). New set visuals though :P
Could be a mini-faction. If only
It's a nice thought, but they won't ever charge anything for story content with this game. Unlike most games that would have charged for an expansion, they kept with the free to play model and that's the way it's staying, especially when it comes to delivering a story.
The Empire was known for its xenophobic character and policies of extreme secrecy and territorial protectionism.
This from Memory Alpha. A lot of players seem not to realise that playing as an Imperial Romulan brings a lot of limitations story progress wise. I think Cryptic did a very good move to let is play 'New Romulans' who are more open minded to the rest of the universe. It is also for a game designer more interesting since there are more story options.
I am a lucky Beta tester and I only can say, the new content is just marvelous and I am looking forward to roll my Romulan character when this patch goes life.
So far, the only choices as a Romulan will be D'Tan, or Sela's Tal Shiar. Knowing the Tal Shiar are puppets of an alien race, use several aliens to do their bidding, destroyed the Homeworld, and keep killing billions Romulans, I don't see why a Romulan would willingly join them.
D'Tan is an idealist, but so far he is rebuilding the Romulan, instead of destroying it like the Tal Shiar. Your character don't have to agree with a reunification, but rebuilding the RSE is a worthy goal. Also, it wouldn't be the first time the RSE is siding with others powers in time of need (Duras sisters, Donatra + Picard...).
Sela is empress by title only, she have no more the right to lead Romulan than Shinzon did.
If you want to defect to the bad guy, that would mean no STF (STF is a common force between KDF and Fed, including D'Tan soon, they don't want the Tal Shiar having Borg tech). No FE involving any Iconian plot, as they are your masters after all. No fleet base, as the fed/KDF would not allow it. No kdf/fed ships. No Nukara/New Romulus, for obvious reasons, which mean no reputations.
A lot of people keep the name RSE and want to be part of it. In fact, the RSE is dead the day of Hobus supernova. Sela kept the name, but that's just that with her, a name. The meaning is gone the day she sided with Iconians.
I want to be part of the old RSE to. But I can't, thanks JJ for that.
What I don't understand is that people refuse to take note of the fact that cryptic has on more than one occasion indicated that the romulans at some point will grow into a faction with their own fleets.
The way romulans will be shaped in the beginning is not how they will look forever... It will just be a step on the roade to becoming great again.
Cryptic says a lot of things, they hint at an even greater number. Almost every time players end up disappointed.
The Empire was known for its xenophobic character and policies of extreme secrecy and territorial protectionism.
This from Memory Alpha. A lot of players seem not to realise that playing as an Imperial Romulan brings a lot of limitations story progress wise. I think Cryptic did a very good move to let is play 'New Romulans' who are more open minded to the rest of the universe. It is also for a game designer more interesting since there are more story options.
I am a lucky Beta tester and I only can say, the new content is just marvelous and I am looking forward to roll my Romulan character when this patch goes life.
This is a solid hit on the head of the nail! I concur.
So far, the only choices as a Romulan will be D'Tan, or Sela's Tal Shiar. Knowing the Tal Shiar are puppets of an alien race, use several aliens to do their bidding, destroyed the Homeworld, and keep killing billions Romulans, I don't see why a Romulan would willingly join them.
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If you want to defect to the bad guy, that would mean no STF (STF is a common force between KDF and Fed, including D'Tan soon, they don't want the Tal Shiar having Borg tech). No FE involving any Iconian plot, as they are your masters after all... No Nukara/New Romulus, for obvious reasons, which mean no reputations.
A lot of people keep the name RSE and want to be part of it. In fact, the RSE is dead the day of Hobus supernova. Sela kept the name, but that's just that with her, a name. The meaning is gone the day she sided with Iconians.
I want to be part of the old RSE to. But I can't, thanks JJ for that.
Excellent points! The honest truth, not pessimistic nor optimistic, just honest.
They want for this whole Romulan Republic thing only for one reason :
To copy&paste as much existing Fed/Kdf-content as possible.
Any solution which gives away that, won't be taken into serious consideration.
May 21st; The day you are proven wrong :P
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
They want for this whole Romulan Republic thing only for one reason :
To copy&paste as much existing Fed/Kdf-content as possible.
Any solution which gives away that, won't be taken into serious consideration.
lets see here they are doing this to (kits) (stf gear doff mission) (fleets) only thing new to romulan is a back story from 1 to 32 then after that copy past for mission ships more then likely copy past for (vet rewards)
lets see here they are doing this to (kits) (stf gear doff mission) (fleets) only thing new to romulan is a back story from 1 to 32 then after that copy past for mission ships more then likely copy past for (vet rewards)
1) They'll be redoing kits before long, a complete overhaul.
2) I totally agree that Romulans need exclusive STF gear and I'm sure we can get them on-board with this.
3) That's almost 70% of the way through. The devs are telling a story, one that they want everyone to be able to experience, regardless of faction.
4) They should be announcing what the veteran rewards are early this week, so we don't know what they are at this point.
The 1k day vet reward will likely have the same kind of mechanic as the Starfleet and KDF versions do, but what you call "copy and paste" is really being fair/trying not to TRIBBLE people off. If one faction has this cool mechanic the other wants it now (a la carrier).
Idk if the "negative Nancy's" genuinely think the Romulan Republic is going to suck or they just like to complain. In any case, get it out of your system now, because the Republic will be here in 3 weeks and it's going to be amazing!
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
By now, everyone should know that the Romulans are coming in May; in the form of the Romulan Republic. It's no secret that a fair number of people were hoping to play as the Romulan Empire rather than a bunch of supposed peaceful folk; it's also no secret that a fair number of people aren't overly happy with (when playing a Romulan) needing to join the Federation or Klingon factions.
Unfortunately for those people (myself included) that is now set in stone, there's no point complaining about it, as it isn't going to change. Too much time and too many resources have no doubt gone in to making the Republic style Romulans to realistically think that Cryptic would start over for what I'd think is 50% of the community.
What I'd like to discuss here though is the idea of an expansion in which Romulan players are given the option to Defect. We all start off as Romulan civilians as it is, and we then choose to join D'Tan and the Federation / Klingons. I don't think it would be too farfetched an idea to allow your chosen character to defect to the Romulan Empire at a later date.
In doing so, you'd be defecting against D'Tan and your chosen alliance, and would be reverting back to your routes. This wouldn't be mandatory, it would be optional. There should be a point within the leveling system in which, deciding on your path, you get unique missions; and as it currently is, once you've chosen a path, you've got to stick with it (as such would be brought in at a later date anyway, existing characters should get a one-time allegiance switch if they so choose).
Just an idea that might please hardcore Sela followers. Cryptic would get to keep the D'Tan story, and players that choose it would get to keep their FED/KDF alliance in tact. Worthy of thought, or not so much?
i suspect this design choice was probably made sometime in in January-February probably and that it was never in question that it could not be changed to another style, there is only so much you can write up and voice over for Denise Crosby before it become ridiculously expensive to keep her on any longer and the rest of it would be more time consuming the more it becomes altered.
its like creating a foundry map and you have everything the way you want, but people want more from the feedback box, so you go back and add content only to find out that it conflicts with the majority of your storyline and realize it would be too time consuming to alter it and to find out that people dont want another clone of someone elses story.
so yeah it is the way it is as you state, lets just worry about LoR coming out and its first few weeks before its considered for considerable critical responses or positive responses.
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the new romulan back story ends at 32 then you begin the first romulan FE
My mistake, I was thinking it was 40.
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
Those of us who've played the game for three years see Cryptic say that, and acknowledge what that actually means.
Why are you taking a different meaning from that? Or rather, why do you believe what they're saying will happen sooner than another three years from May, 2013?
I have been here since beta, thank you...
But it seems to me that recently more and more of what they promised is making it into the game... It takes alot of time, no disputing that, but still... we are slowly, but steadily getting there.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
But it seems to me that recently more and more of what they promised is making it into the game... It takes alot of time, no disputing that, but still... we are slowly, but steadily getting there.
As a player who has also been here since beta, I concur. Cryptic is trying to give us what we want within the realm of possibility and reason. Unfortunately reasonableness is not something that the majority of the forum users here have heard of :rolleyes:
Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
But it seems to me that recently more and more of what they promised is making it into the game... It takes alot of time, no disputing that, but still... we are slowly, but steadily getting there.
New Hair Tech. Children of Khan. Playable First Officers. Poker Table mini-game. So on and so forth. Yup. They've totally made good on old old old promises. Indeedie.
As a player who has also been here since beta, I concur. Cryptic is trying to give us what we want within the realm of possibility and reason. Unfortunately reasonableness is not something that the majority of the forum users here have heard of :rolleyes:
Yea... Some of the more self-proclaimed experts tend to selectively forget the things that has been done, while focus mainly on minor issues, hypeing them to a level where they seem very important.
New Hair Tech. Children of Khan. Playable First Officers. Poker Table mini-game. So on and so forth. Yup. They've totally made good on old old old promises. Indeedie.
New improved UI, 1-50 KDF content, Romulan faction, Ambassador class for free... Just to name a few.
Just because you choose to ignore them, dosen't make it any less fact.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
New improved UI, 1-50 KDF content, Romulan faction, Ambassador class for free... Just to name a few.
Just because you choose to ignore them, dosen't make it any less fact.
STOP call it ,,FACTION ,, it is only playable romulans no FACTION !
LoR should to be about rebuilding Romulan Star Empire,liberating Donatra from borg collective ,confronting Sela & madness of Tal Shiar,claiming Vulcan as new romulan homeworld...
No honorable Klingon would ally with Romulans at all after what they did to Narendra III and Khitomer. The attempt to cover up the duplicity of the House of Duras and the Klingon Civil War shows that. It wasn't Sela in particular that made it dishonorable, it was Romulans in general. Yet here we are, with Romulans snuggling up to the KDF. To paraphrase:
"The opportunity here, is to bring them to their knees."
No honorable Klingon would ally with Romulans at all after what they did to Narendra III and Khitomer. The attempt to cover up the duplicity of the House of Duras and the Klingon Civil War shows that. It wasn't Sela in particular that made it dishonorable, it was Romulans in general. Yet here we are, with Romulans snuggling up to the KDF. To paraphrase:
"The opportunity here, is to bring them to their knees."
Remember how the KDF were motivated to ally with the Federation? Enterprise C and Nerenda 3?
Theres good reason for why things happen as they do.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Unless and until the game matures to the point where Cryptic is ready, willing, and able to consider a Red vs. Blue vs. Green gameplay system, not going to happen.
The Devs are convinced that Red vs. Blue is the way to go, that any other approach will fracture the playerbase and overcomplicate future development, and I'm not so sure they're wrong.
Every Romulan player is welcome to roleplay themselves in any way they choose. Between the Foundry and private PvP queues I imagine it will be entirely possible to roleplay as Tal Shiar or RSE if you want. I wouldn't be surprised to see costumes for TOS Romulans becoming available, either.
But under the hood it will still be Red vs. Blue.
I will say, though, that a defection option in the distant future when Cryptic's ready for the next shake-up might be a good step in the direction of RvBvG.
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No this doesn't make sense. Unfortunatley JJ Trek screwed things up, and the bad guy RSE got blown up with Romulus. What is left of it is being manipulated by Iconians and is about to go down with them.
Unless and until the game matures to the point where Cryptic is ready, willing, and able to consider a Red vs. Blue vs. Green gameplay system, not going to happen.
The Devs are convinced that Red vs. Blue is the way to go, that any other approach will fracture the playerbase and overcomplicate future development, and I'm not so sure they're wrong.
I also think that while the people (myself included) who would prefer to play the Star Empire are very vocal and dedicated, we're outnumbered by those who prefer being the good guys. I saw this same thing in every MMO I've played. A decent sized group of very dedicated hardcore players who want to be evil, and the overwhelming majority looking for the good guys. Grim darkness gets old and depressing to many if it isn't balanced. So there could be business reasons for it in addition to the reasons you've given.
I tend to think that STO has a large enough population that some fracturing might be ok, or even good. Providing cross-faction teaming was implemented.
And I tend to think that we're dedicated enough if the product was good Cryptic would make money off it. But I have to admit, probably not as much as they will with the route they've chosen.
Every Romulan player is welcome to roleplay themselves in any way they choose. Between the Foundry and private PvP queues I imagine it will be entirely possible to roleplay as Tal Shiar or RSE if you want. I wouldn't be surprised to see costumes for TOS Romulans becoming available, either.
But under the hood it will still be Red vs. Blue.
Yup, and for me this is a key point. The Tal Shiar have moles, hell from what I've seen they have surgically altered spies who look like other races operating in both the Federation and KDF. If my romulan works for the Star Empire from inside the Feds or the KDF, he still works for the Star Empire and he is still a scheming untrustworthy son-of-an-epohh and he still flies a romulan warbird.
What I don't understand is that people refuse to take note of the fact that cryptic has on more than one occasion indicated that the romulans at some point will grow into a faction with their own fleets.
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Maybe it's becuase Cryptic has said this about numerous things in game, and long time players are still waiting for them to come to fruition.
Cryptic has shown time and again, that when they release something, it tends to stay the way it is. This is usually accompanied by cries of small staffing and or budget limitations.
Wait, aren't you the one ignoring the list I provided?
You know how long new hair tech has been "coming soon"?
No... I am not ignoring them... I am well aware that most elements takes long time, TOO long in most cases, but evidence points more in the direction that things are coming, rather than having seen cryptic entirely dismissing them.
And let me be honest... If hair is all you care about... I really hope you will be dissapointed, cause there are things I'd rather see finished 10 years before "new hair tech".
Also, I dont remember them saying conclusively that they would be making poker... only that they considered it a interesting concept.
Point me in the right direction for this please.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Faction... Romulan Faction... Romulans are a faction..
Romulans are most certainly a faction.
The Faction of romulans in STO is most interesting
People who have played the romulan faction on tribble should find it most interesting.
I like the Romulan faction
Yes You are right it is faction
...& we have other faction long time in game not only Fed/Kdf...
here are Ferengi faction , Orion faction,Gorn faction,Nausican faction...I playing Dominion faction(yes I have changeling,alien creation), Cardasioan faction ...etc ...omfg here are many factions in STO not only two...I am sorry it was my bad...You are right it is faction...oh yeah:D
LoR should to be about rebuilding Romulan Star Empire,liberating Donatra from borg collective ,confronting Sela & madness of Tal Shiar,claiming Vulcan as new romulan homeworld...
Faction... Romulan Faction... Romulans are a faction..
Romulans are most certainly a faction.
The Faction of romulans in STO is most interesting
People who have played the romulan faction on tribble should find it most interesting.
I like the Romulan faction
Since Romulans that ally with the Fed can't team with those who ally with the KDF, I have to disagree with you...sadly this is not a faction in my book and I'm not happy with it.
Since Romulans that ally with the Fed can't team with those who ally with the KDF, I have to disagree with you...sadly this is not a faction in my book and I'm not happy with it.
Agree with you.
Firstly, why a romulan ally with klingons who attack them first after the super nova?
or the federation who always an enemy for the romulans(in there eyes at least)...
I dont even understand D'Tan, yes he learn under Spock, but isnt the vulcans who dont even help them after the super nova?
And when we think about it, under federation wing, romulans never get back what they capture/conquered before the supernova, we all know why( Feds are pacifist and not support conquering).
Yes, we have to eat everything on the table, at least we got romulans, but the people start thinking, all the other faction implemented like this in the future? (Cardassians, Dominium, Breen, Borg...etc.)
so, only two side at the end, Fed and Klingon.
That is why a good idea, i mean the very first post!
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I would love to see a Romulan defection happen. It's probably the thing I want most in this game, now that we're stuck as Romulan Refugees.
Unfortunately, I don't think it'll ever happen. To be honest, I just don't think Cryptic has the drive to do it. (And yes, you may take that as a challenge, devs, I would love to be wrong) It's my opinion that they don't like to admit when they've made a mistake/terrible decision, and further that they tend to maneuver around their mistakes rather than fix them. (For example, when people were upset over not getting a Romulan starbase, they suggested in the future we'll get a Romulan "Fleet Holding" instead. No Romulan Starbase, but we'll add a Romulan Clubhouse for you.)
Doing this defection would require you giving up any unique faction stuff you got from Feds/KDF, including ships, consoles, gear, pets, titles, accolades, etc. That's a lot of work that isn't going to earn them $$, not to mention all the unique Romulan stuff they'd have to replace it with.
This is just the direction they decided to take the Romulans and, whether we like it or not, I think that's all we're going to get. Hold onto that hope though, OP, I sympathize with you.
It's a nice thought, but they won't ever charge anything for story content with this game. Unlike most games that would have charged for an expansion, they kept with the free to play model and that's the way it's staying, especially when it comes to delivering a story.
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This from Memory Alpha. A lot of players seem not to realise that playing as an Imperial Romulan brings a lot of limitations story progress wise. I think Cryptic did a very good move to let is play 'New Romulans' who are more open minded to the rest of the universe. It is also for a game designer more interesting since there are more story options.
I am a lucky Beta tester and I only can say, the new content is just marvelous and I am looking forward to roll my Romulan character when this patch goes life.
D'Tan is an idealist, but so far he is rebuilding the Romulan, instead of destroying it like the Tal Shiar. Your character don't have to agree with a reunification, but rebuilding the RSE is a worthy goal. Also, it wouldn't be the first time the RSE is siding with others powers in time of need (Duras sisters, Donatra + Picard...).
Sela is empress by title only, she have no more the right to lead Romulan than Shinzon did.
If you want to defect to the bad guy, that would mean no STF (STF is a common force between KDF and Fed, including D'Tan soon, they don't want the Tal Shiar having Borg tech). No FE involving any Iconian plot, as they are your masters after all. No fleet base, as the fed/KDF would not allow it. No kdf/fed ships. No Nukara/New Romulus, for obvious reasons, which mean no reputations.
A lot of people keep the name RSE and want to be part of it. In fact, the RSE is dead the day of Hobus supernova. Sela kept the name, but that's just that with her, a name. The meaning is gone the day she sided with Iconians.
I want to be part of the old RSE to. But I can't, thanks JJ for that.
To copy&paste as much existing Fed/Kdf-content as possible.
Any solution which gives away that, won't be taken into serious consideration.
Cryptic says a lot of things, they hint at an even greater number. Almost every time players end up disappointed.
This is a solid hit on the head of the nail! I concur.
Excellent points! The honest truth, not pessimistic nor optimistic, just honest.
May 21st; The day you are proven wrong
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
lets see here they are doing this to (kits) (stf gear doff mission) (fleets) only thing new to romulan is a back story from 1 to 32 then after that copy past for mission ships more then likely copy past for (vet rewards)
system Lord Baal is dead
1) They'll be redoing kits before long, a complete overhaul.
2) I totally agree that Romulans need exclusive STF gear and I'm sure we can get them on-board with this.
3) That's almost 70% of the way through. The devs are telling a story, one that they want everyone to be able to experience, regardless of faction.
4) They should be announcing what the veteran rewards are early this week, so we don't know what they are at this point.
The 1k day vet reward will likely have the same kind of mechanic as the Starfleet and KDF versions do, but what you call "copy and paste" is really being fair/trying not to TRIBBLE people off. If one faction has this cool mechanic the other wants it now (a la carrier).
Idk if the "negative Nancy's" genuinely think the Romulan Republic is going to suck or they just like to complain. In any case, get it out of your system now, because the Republic will be here in 3 weeks and it's going to be amazing!
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
system Lord Baal is dead
i suspect this design choice was probably made sometime in in January-February probably and that it was never in question that it could not be changed to another style, there is only so much you can write up and voice over for Denise Crosby before it become ridiculously expensive to keep her on any longer and the rest of it would be more time consuming the more it becomes altered.
its like creating a foundry map and you have everything the way you want, but people want more from the feedback box, so you go back and add content only to find out that it conflicts with the majority of your storyline and realize it would be too time consuming to alter it and to find out that people dont want another clone of someone elses story.
so yeah it is the way it is as you state, lets just worry about LoR coming out and its first few weeks before its considered for considerable critical responses or positive responses.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
another faction.. to do so all over again .. ( of course, as business is in it for the moola )
they are smart tho.. they got my legacy pack money hehe come on may 21st!
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
My mistake, I was thinking it was 40.
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
I have been here since beta, thank you...
But it seems to me that recently more and more of what they promised is making it into the game... It takes alot of time, no disputing that, but still... we are slowly, but steadily getting there.
As a player who has also been here since beta, I concur. Cryptic is trying to give us what we want within the realm of possibility and reason. Unfortunately reasonableness is not something that the majority of the forum users here have heard of :rolleyes:
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
New Hair Tech. Children of Khan. Playable First Officers. Poker Table mini-game. So on and so forth. Yup. They've totally made good on old old old promises. Indeedie.
Yea... Some of the more self-proclaimed experts tend to selectively forget the things that has been done, while focus mainly on minor issues, hypeing them to a level where they seem very important.
New improved UI, 1-50 KDF content, Romulan faction, Ambassador class for free... Just to name a few.
Just because you choose to ignore them, dosen't make it any less fact.
STOP call it ,,FACTION ,, it is only playable romulans no FACTION !
"The opportunity here, is to bring them to their knees."
Faction... Romulan Faction... Romulans are a faction..
Romulans are most certainly a faction.
The Faction of romulans in STO is most interesting
People who have played the romulan faction on tribble should find it most interesting.
I like the Romulan faction
Remember how the KDF were motivated to ally with the Federation? Enterprise C and Nerenda 3?
Theres good reason for why things happen as they do.
The Devs are convinced that Red vs. Blue is the way to go, that any other approach will fracture the playerbase and overcomplicate future development, and I'm not so sure they're wrong.
Every Romulan player is welcome to roleplay themselves in any way they choose. Between the Foundry and private PvP queues I imagine it will be entirely possible to roleplay as Tal Shiar or RSE if you want. I wouldn't be surprised to see costumes for TOS Romulans becoming available, either.
But under the hood it will still be Red vs. Blue.
I will say, though, that a defection option in the distant future when Cryptic's ready for the next shake-up might be a good step in the direction of RvBvG.
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I also think that while the people (myself included) who would prefer to play the Star Empire are very vocal and dedicated, we're outnumbered by those who prefer being the good guys. I saw this same thing in every MMO I've played. A decent sized group of very dedicated hardcore players who want to be evil, and the overwhelming majority looking for the good guys. Grim darkness gets old and depressing to many if it isn't balanced. So there could be business reasons for it in addition to the reasons you've given.
I tend to think that STO has a large enough population that some fracturing might be ok, or even good. Providing cross-faction teaming was implemented.
And I tend to think that we're dedicated enough if the product was good Cryptic would make money off it. But I have to admit, probably not as much as they will with the route they've chosen.
Yup, and for me this is a key point. The Tal Shiar have moles, hell from what I've seen they have surgically altered spies who look like other races operating in both the Federation and KDF. If my romulan works for the Star Empire from inside the Feds or the KDF, he still works for the Star Empire and he is still a scheming untrustworthy son-of-an-epohh and he still flies a romulan warbird.
Maybe it's becuase Cryptic has said this about numerous things in game, and long time players are still waiting for them to come to fruition.
Cryptic has shown time and again, that when they release something, it tends to stay the way it is. This is usually accompanied by cries of small staffing and or budget limitations.
Wait, aren't you the one ignoring the list I provided?
You know how long new hair tech has been "coming soon"?
No... I am not ignoring them... I am well aware that most elements takes long time, TOO long in most cases, but evidence points more in the direction that things are coming, rather than having seen cryptic entirely dismissing them.
And let me be honest... If hair is all you care about... I really hope you will be dissapointed, cause there are things I'd rather see finished 10 years before "new hair tech".
Also, I dont remember them saying conclusively that they would be making poker... only that they considered it a interesting concept.
Point me in the right direction for this please.
Yes You are right it is faction
...& we have other faction long time in game not only Fed/Kdf...
here are Ferengi faction , Orion faction,Gorn faction,Nausican faction...I playing Dominion faction(yes I have changeling,alien creation), Cardasioan faction ...etc ...omfg here are many factions in STO not only two...I am sorry it was my bad...You are right it is faction...oh yeah:D
Since Romulans that ally with the Fed can't team with those who ally with the KDF, I have to disagree with you...sadly this is not a faction in my book and I'm not happy with it.
Agree with you.
Firstly, why a romulan ally with klingons who attack them first after the super nova?
or the federation who always an enemy for the romulans(in there eyes at least)...
I dont even understand D'Tan, yes he learn under Spock, but isnt the vulcans who dont even help them after the super nova?
And when we think about it, under federation wing, romulans never get back what they capture/conquered before the supernova, we all know why( Feds are pacifist and not support conquering).
Yes, we have to eat everything on the table, at least we got romulans, but the people start thinking, all the other faction implemented like this in the future? (Cardassians, Dominium, Breen, Borg...etc.)
so, only two side at the end, Fed and Klingon.
That is why a good idea, i mean the very first post!