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Romulan PVP, which Fleet ship will you fly?

webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
edited May 2013 in PvP Gameplay
If the following Stats stay as they are till Launch, which will you fly as a romulan for PVP?

Fleet Dhelan Warbird retrofit:
Cmd Tac, Ens Tac, Lt Sci, LtC Engi, Lt uni
Base turn: 16, Base hull: 34,650, Shield Mod: .99
Consoles: 4 Engi, 3 Tac, 3 Sci
Weapons 4 Fore, 3 Aft

Fleet T'varo Light Warbird Retrofit:
Cmd Tac, Lt Tac, Ens Tac, LtC Engi, Lt uni
Base turn: 18, Base hull: 33,000, Shield Mod: .99
Consoles: 3 Engi, 5 Tac, 2 Sci
Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft

Fleet Mogai Heavy Warbird retrofit
Cmd Tac, Lt Tac, Ens Engi, LtC Sci, Lt Uni
Base Turn: 14, Base hull 36,300, Shield Mod: .99
Consoles: 2 Engi, 4 Tac, 4 Sci
Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft

Fleet D'Deridex Warbird Battle Cruiser Retrofit
Ens Tac, Lt Tac, Cmd Engi, LtC Sci, Lt Uni
Base Turn: 5, Base hull 44,550, Shield Mod 1.1
Consoles: 5 Engi, 2 Tac, 3 Sci
Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft

Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird Refit
Lt Tac, Ens Tac, Lt Engi, Cmd Sci, LtC Uni
Base turn 5, Base hull 44,000 Shield Mod 1.15
Consoles: 2 Engi, 3 Tac, 5 Sci
Weapons: 4 Fore, 4 Aft

And of course, they all have Battle cloak.

So, which will you choose? :)
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  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The prettiest one, no matter the stats <3
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    darkfader1988 wrote: »
    The prettiest one, no matter the stats <3

    I don't know if I could see you in a Fleet D'D though.... I think you like your Bug too much. :P
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  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    webdeath wrote: »
    I don't know if I could see you in a Fleet D'D though.... I think you like your Bug too much. :P

    lol havent played my bug for a while bro :P
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If...IF...I'm bothered to grind up new toon, It will be sci in mogai.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Really wish the Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird Refit didn't require a T5 shipyard. That with the Haakona Separation console from the Haakona Advanced Warbird (Ha'apax Zen version) could be fun.

    You left out the Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird, mind you - there are "four" Ha'apax boats. The RA, the Fleet, the Zen, and the Fleet Refit. The RA/Fleet are Cmdr Eng while the Zen/Fleet Refit are Cmdr Sci. That Haakona Separation console, allowing you fly either the Escort or the Support version looks to have some nifty options depending on if you go for the Cmdr Eng or Sci.

    Realistically though, I'm probably looking at a Fleet T'varo. Have even thought about the Sci T'varo - bringing the SNB/Scan/Scattering to the "escort" sort of thing. Might end up doing that with a F-Rom and a K-Rom.

    I'm actually looking to try to be more of a team player with the LoR stuff and Roms...so heh, I'm trying to avoid rolling more Engineers.
  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited May 2013
    Fleet mogai, most likely as tac or maybe as sci.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Fleet T'varo and the Fleet D'deridex for sure.
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  • hroothvitnirhroothvitnir Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2013
    Fleet T,varo. And fly it by the motto "Decloak kill or death!":D
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the hap'ax with the regent setup wile separated in the smaller ship may be the kdf style cruiser with the regent station setup ive been waiting for. that and the Dhelan i will proboly main, though that 3 tac console thing its got is DAMN peculiar. it should have a 4th rear weapon in exchange. might hold off on that till the rom vet ship gets made though, it will have nearly the same station setup.
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  • borgresearcherborgresearcher Member Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the fleet tvaro looks a little bit, TOO op compared to the fleet defiant, with that ltcm eng, romulan battle cloak, and singularity warp core ...
  • seekerkorhilseekerkorhil Member Posts: 472
    edited May 2013
    borgresearcher wrote: »
    the fleet tvaro looks a little bit, TOO op compared to the fleet defiant, with that ltcm eng, romulan battle cloak, and singularity warp core ...

    Its better than that, the T'Varo has Enhanced Battle Cloak. Allowing it to not only fire torps while cloaked but heal its hull while cloaked apparently.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    the hap'ax with the regent setup wile separated in the smaller ship may be the kdf style cruiser with the regent station setup ive been waiting for. that and the Dhelan i will proboly main, though that 3 tac console thing its got is DAMN peculiar. it should have a 4th rear weapon in exchange. might hold off on that till the rom vet ship gets made though, it will have nearly the same station setup.

    I really want to see somebody post what the different turns are for the Escort and the Support Vessel with that Haakona Separation. Be nifty to get a blog post or something from the devs at least on it with some numbers. The possibilities there are just so damn nifty.

    As for the Dhelan...heh, each time I reroll a toon and fly that ship, I name it Warduck. Just can't get over how it looks...meh.
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Judging by other separation powers, it is usually +10 turn rate bonus. So you can expect turn rate around 20-22, while separated, with a RCS console or two.

    Question is, if you can cloak while separated :)
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    borgresearcher wrote: »
    the fleet tvaro looks a little bit, TOO op compared to the fleet defiant, with that ltcm eng, romulan battle cloak, and singularity warp core ...

    Yeah, but the Tac stuff kind of throws a wrench into it, no?

    X, X, X, X
    X, X
    X
    X, X, X
    X, X

    APO1, APO3?
    Single APO1? Single APO3?

    The Uni as a Sci? Is anybody actually going to run without HE?

    Back to the Tac and 3x Ensign and 2x Lieutenant?

    Hrmmm, maybe I need to see some folks post some proposed builds for the ship.

    A Chel Grett's the following:

    X, X, X, X
    X, X
    X, X
    X, X, X
    X

    That allows for using the Uni En as an Eng, using PH/HE/TSS if you run a single APO.

    The Fleet Defiant has the LCdr Tac and a Lt Eng...which allows for easier 2x APO1.

    Even the Mirror Qin's sporting the LCdr Tac with the En Eng - allowing you to do the 2x EPtX or EPtX/EPtY while also running the 2x APO easier.

    The layout just seems off...but I'm sure folks see stuff there that I would never consider. It's just that it's got an EBC, so I'm thinking torps/mines.

    Course, with the change to cloak CD...hrmmm...
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Judging by other separation powers, it is usually +10 turn rate bonus. So you can expect turn rate around 20-22, while separated, with a RCS console or two.

    Question is, if you can cloak while separated :)

    Hrmm, quite a few questions arise as well...just from the Singularity powers.

    Warp Shadows?
    Jump?
    Absorption?

    Yep, will be interesting - wonder how much testing will get done with it.

    Heh, they need to add it to the Experimental Ships Vendor. :)
  • tbffotbffo Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Fleet Dhelan for PvE with Aux2Bat and on a Tac for PvP the Fleet T'Varo, and it has EBC.
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Tvaro all the way...

    Fleet T'varo Light Warbird Retrofit:
    Cmd Tac, Lt Tac, Ens Tac, LtC Engi, Lt uni
    Base turn: 18, Base hull: 33,000, Shield Mod: .99
    Consoles: 3 Engi, 5 Tac, 2 Sci
    Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft

    A Brel... with an extra ensign slot, I like that its a tac slot anyway.

    With more shields more hull.... more tac consoles more weapons.

    Are you kidden me this is the games new super ship no doubt.
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  • evaalphaevaalpha Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    As a KDF BoP-Player, T'Varo of coruse :)
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    You left out the Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird, mind you - there are "four" Ha'apax boats. The RA, the Fleet, the Zen, and the Fleet Refit. The RA/Fleet are Cmdr Eng while the Zen/Fleet Refit are Cmdr Sci. That Haakona Separation console, allowing you fly either the Escort or the Support version looks to have some nifty options depending on if you go for the Cmdr Eng or Sci.

    No, I didn't leave out any of the Fleet Ships. I put up what ever Fleet Warbirds was on tribble at the time of the post.

    I left out little things like the Enhanced Battle cloak, or the console because they have already been stated about and such. But hey, I'm only human too. :P
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  • drunkadmiraldrunkadmiral Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    after a a brief look at op post i can imagine something like this

    Fleet D'Deridex

    Ens Tac - tt
    Lt Tac - tt,delta
    Cmd Engi - epts,extend,extend,a2sif
    LtC Sci - st,he,tss
    Lt Uni - epts,rsp


    Fleet T'varo:

    Cmd Tac - bo,crf1,omega1,omega3
    Lt Tac - bo,crf1
    Ens Tac - tt (+doff)
    LtC Engi - epts1,epts2,rsp2
    Lt uni - he1,tss2


    Fleet Ha'apax

    Lt Tac - tt,delta
    Ens Tac - tt
    Lt Engi - epts,extend
    Cmd Sci - st,he,tss,fp
    LtC Uni - epts,rsp,extend
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    webdeath wrote: »
    No, I didn't leave out any of the Fleet Ships. I put up what ever Fleet Warbirds was on tribble at the time of the post.

    The post was after the patch yesterday, no?

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    (Z) T'varo Light Warbird Retrofit
    (Z) Dhelan Warbird Retrofit
    Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird

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    (Z) Mogai Heavy Warbird Retrofit
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    Fleet Mogai Heavy Warbird Retrofit
    Fleet D'Deridex Warbird Battle Cruiser Retrofit
    Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird Retrofit

    The Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird's technically in the wrong place.
  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Fleet T'varo Light Warbird Retrofit - Best AND prettiest!
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  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Yeah, but the Tac stuff kind of throws a wrench into it, no?

    X, X, X, X
    X, X
    X
    X, X, X
    X, X

    APO1, APO3?
    Single APO1? Single APO3?

    The Uni as a Sci? Is anybody actually going to run without HE?

    Back to the Tac and 3x Ensign and 2x Lieutenant?

    Hrmmm, maybe I need to see some folks post some proposed builds for the ship.

    A Chel Grett's the following:

    X, X, X, X
    X, X
    X, X
    X, X, X
    X

    That allows for using the Uni En as an Eng, using PH/HE/TSS if you run a single APO.

    The Fleet Defiant has the LCdr Tac and a Lt Eng...which allows for easier 2x APO1.

    Even the Mirror Qin's sporting the LCdr Tac with the En Eng - allowing you to do the 2x EPtX or EPtX/EPtY while also running the 2x APO easier.

    The layout just seems off...but I'm sure folks see stuff there that I would never consider. It's just that it's got an EBC, so I'm thinking torps/mines.

    Course, with the change to cloak CD...hrmmm...

    3 Tac stations does have its uses, another romulan boff with 2% CritH and +5 Severity :D
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    Heck the choice isnt difficult.

    Fleet Mogai Heavy Warbird retrofit
    Cmd Tac, Lt Tac, Ens Engi, LtC Sci, Lt Uni
    Base Turn: 14, Base hull 36,300, Shield Mod: .99
    Consoles: 2 Engi, 4 Tac, 4 Sci
    Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft

    Then the hard choice will fall to either be sneaky-sneaky (science captain) or deadly-sneaky (tactical captain)

    Oh choices, choices....
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  • thegrimcorsairthegrimcorsair Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Haakona, and later the Fleet Haakona, no doubt about it.

    Oh yeah, remember if you use Saucer Sep (and maybe the MVAM console?) to equip your RCS consoles after you split so they boost your turn rate off the new number and not your original base number.
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thegrimcorsair wrote: »
    Haakona, and later the Fleet Haakona, no doubt about it.

    Oh yeah, remember if you use Saucer Sep (and maybe the MVAM console?) to equip your RCS consoles after you split so they boost your turn rate off the new number and not your original base number.

    You know, it's not how it works. The RCS and all other bonuses are calculated off the original base. The separation is just flat bonus.
    edalgo wrote: »
    Is it just me or does the fleet d'deridex just jump out at you as what the fleet galaxy should be???

    Yes :-(((( not even a meager universal ensign for the Galaxy
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    darkfader1988 wrote: »
    3 Tac stations does have its uses, another romulan boff with 2% CritH and +5 Severity :D

    As I understand it, so long as one is a Romulan one can get non-tac Boffs with the crit/severity strait. Also (and I might be mistaken on this, I'll need to check) I believe there is the possibility for random Rommie Boffs to have both Operative and Subterfuge on them.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    edalgo wrote: »
    Is it just me or does the fleet d'deridex just jump out at you as what the fleet galaxy should be???


    The Fleet Negh'var was already doing that since the launch of S6.

    The Fleet DD better resembles the Ambassador, a ship with better turn than both the Fleet Galaxy and the Ody, and better Hull than the Ody and nearly as much as the Fleet Galaxy.

    Here's to ship design not making much sense. Cheers!
  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Fleet T'varo Light Warbird Retrofit - TAC
    Fleet Mogai Heavy Warbird retrofit (sciscort)/ Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird Refit - SCI
    Fleet Dhelan Warbird retrofit (engscort)/ Fleet D'Deridex Warbird Battle Cruiser Retrofit - ENG
  • houseofcritzhouseofcritz Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Fleet Mogai Heavy Warbird retrofit
    Cmd Tac, Lt Tac, Ens Engi, LtC Sci, Lt Uni
    Base Turn: 14, Base hull 36,300, Shield Mod: .99
    Consoles: 2 Engi, 4 Tac, 4 Sci
    Weapons: 4 Fore, 3 Aft

    In my Sci
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