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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited February 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    perhaps defaults by era (select one option)
    Enterprise era
    TOS
    TNG
    Voyager
    DS9
    Freaky deeky (The STO new ones)


    I like this idea

    250 zen and get a pull down menue for the option
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    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

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  • unangbangkayunangbangkay Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    diotw wrote: »
    From who seemed to be wearing each different type of uniform, it seemed to me that during the first couple of seasons of DS9, Starfleet personnel who were serving aboard starships, or at Starfleet Command, wore the later TNG series uniforms. Starfleet personnel assigned to starbases, like DS9, wore the newer uniform with the coloured shoulders. Sisko and Worf, for instance, arrive on DS9 having been serving on a starship wearing the TNG uniform, but once they're officially assigned to the station, they change to the DS9/Voyager uniform.

    This. There's a fair amount of evidence to suggest that even before STO's time uniform standards were fairly loose, or at least changed frequently. Given that Starfleet tends to treat STO players kind of like Privateers or free agents rather than rank-and-file officers, it's understandable that they'd be OK with allowing this "new breed" of officers to wear what they please.

    Not to mention that many of the miscellaneous personnel in STO wear different uniforms. For example, Admiral Quinn's secretary at ESD wears the Veteran uniform, and your crew members (the static ones, at least), tend to alternate between the Sierra and Antares styles fairly frequently.

    And of course there are the static NPCs inserted into the game to, ahem, show off some of the newer uniforms.
  • temp3rustemp3rus Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Good discussion, I ask myself what Trek fans want when they play the game?

    What if the DS9 were in the DS9 uniforms? That's what I would expect after watching the shows. Yes it's in the future, yes they can wear whatever they want, but maybe it's tradition to wear that uniform.

    Maybe a different uniform for each Sector? It wold certainly tie the story line a bit closer together. And also promote the individual Cstore uniforms.

    That's what I think anyway :)
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    1) Vote +1 for standard NPC Uniform to be defaulted to the Odyssey. This should be so at least on Fleet Starbases.

    2) Since day one of Ship Interiors, I have been voting +1 for player control of the default uniform on the lemmings that over-populate my ship. This should be something similar to the way Fleets can make a Fleet uniform for members to grab in the Tailor. Players should have access to a similar UI for controlling crew uniforms (including security escort/medic spawns).

    3) I would love a client-side overlay that could control the costume design/era of all NPCs. I don't care either way if said modification would affect what each client also saw of players, but I do think if this option became usable it would reduce the saleability of uniforms (and possibly ships, if it extended to those "costumes" too), when the snowflakes realized they couldn't show off to others.
    Only 6K more in T2 projects before I can begin to think about how much of my built-up Fleet Credit will go to the uniforms...
    I can tell you how much: 8k Fleet Credits (and 16k Dil) to get the Odyssey uniform from the Fleet Starbase Tailor. That's per character.
    AGT uniform doesn't look very good...
    I actually really like the in-game AGT uniform (It's the uniform worn by my main and his BOs). Goes to show you there's no accounting for taste. Heh. :P

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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Basically, whichever new Starfleet uniform is implemented by the STO Art Team should become the default of Starbase personnel. Previously, there was a player movement to have the Jupiter uniform variants as NPC default. I wanted the ESD uniforms to be the AGT set. I thought the Art Team did a wonderful job interpreting a canon uniform seen across multiple -albeit alternate - timelines. But even that has been a few player years ago now.

    Since we've been in 2409 for three player years, with no such changes, I'd be satisfied with the Odyssey set at this point.


    I've always felt that the closer to Earth Space Dock we were, the more uniform the Starbase NPC's should appear. The further away the base or outpost happens to be, the more likely it would be to see a mix and match of the various STO original uniforms we would see worn. With the base command staff wearing whatever is current. For example, Deep Space Nine or K7. As I have always viewed them as outposts. Not formal starbases within the numbered system originally established within The Original Series or TNG. So Ops on DS9 and Commander Wildman's office on K7 would dress with Odyssey. All other areas would be a blend.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2013
    Perhaps set the Jupiter and Veteran uniforms as the ESD default, and the Odyssey as Fleet Defaults.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,149 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    hmm i like sierra 1 ,3 and 4 :O
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    Typhoon Class please!
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    artan42 wrote: »
    Perhaps set the Jupiter and Veteran uniforms as the ESD default, and the Odyssey as Fleet Defaults.

    Not unless you make them free. Sticking for-profit outfits on NPC's, in the first area you go no less, is kind of a jerk move. Since the Odyssey uniforms are obtained with in-game currencies, there is nothing stopping them from making the Odyssey the default, and making a fancy/dress uniform for the Starbases. That would make me very happy.
    thay8472 wrote: »
    hmm i like sierra 1 ,3 and 4 :O

    The Sierra uniforms look alright, but they look like something out of Mass Effect or Babylon 5. The Odyssey Uniforms actually look like something out of Star Trek.
  • blagormblagorm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Just saying. :D

    Sory but this seems like a FED thing..... please remember to psot this into FED content.. us Klingons dont wanna see some random things about costumes that FEDs only have.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    blagorm wrote: »
    Sory but this seems like a FED thing..... please remember to psot this into FED content.. us Klingons dont wanna see some random things about costumes that FEDs only have.

    Go rain on someone elses parade. Besides, this would change the Fed NPCs that you fight. So it has something to do with KDF. :D
  • blagormblagorm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Go rain on someone elses parade. Besides, this would change the Fed NPCs that you fight. So it has something to do with KDF. :D

    Ha ha ha... if Gorn were real you would not be laughin now would you? Lets put it this way. The Gorn Race has been alive for about 7,000 years and can travel in Space... Humans have been alive for 100's of thousands of years and now are beginning to have some ships.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    blagorm wrote: »
    Ha ha ha... if Gorn were real you would not be laughin now would you? Lets put it this way. The Gorn Race has been alive for about 7,000 years and can travel in Space... Humans have been alive for 100's of thousands of years and now are beginning to have some ships.

    Lol what.......?? :confused:
  • blagormblagorm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Lol what.......?? :confused:

    The GOrn which you aqquire as "dumb" have made ships and excelled in Science and research only being alive for 7000 years. The Humans or core Federation players have been alive for 100s of 1000's of years and yet are still near the begining few centuries of their ship making and research while the Gorn had some already. In most cases.. the Gorn should be respected more (KDF) for maybe they will make a Laser that can destroy a planet and a ship that can not be destoryed in time :M
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    blagorm wrote: »
    The GOrn which you aqquire as "dumb" have made ships and excelled in Science and research only being alive for 7000 years. The Humans or core Federation players have been alive for 100s of 1000's of years and yet are still near the begining few centuries of their ship making and research while the Gorn had some already. In most cases.. the Gorn should be respected more (KDF) for maybe they will make a Laser that can destroy a planet and a ship that can not be destoryed in time :M

    I never said anything about hating on the Gorn. In fact, I have repeatedly asked for more gorn options including the re-addition of the TOS style gorn.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2013
    Not unless you make them free. Sticking for-profit outfits on NPC's, in the first area you go no less, is kind of a jerk move.

    They look good, and it may encourage people to buy them.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • keirstekeirste Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    jtmarsh wrote: »
    I love the Odyssey uniforms. My 16 BO's have it on. Below is all 3 divisions and command.
    http://i.imgur.com/UmRrO.jpg

    what weapons are in this image?
  • morkargh117morkargh117 Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The current Starfleet uniforms that NPCs wear is absolutely horrible, please change them Cryptic, the Odyssey uniforms are much better.
  • jtmarshjtmarsh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    keirste wrote: »
    what weapons are in this image?

    Fleet phaser.. Forgot the name of those
  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I have to agree with the OP that, the Default Uniform need to change
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    keirste wrote: »
    what weapons are in this image?

    Elite Fleet Wide Beam Pistols I believe.




    I also think this should still happen!
  • keirstekeirste Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    thanks all for the replys
  • zev92zev92 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I still think it should be wrath of khan uniforms or tos
  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    zev92 wrote: »
    I still think it should be wrath of khan uniforms or tos

    The wrath of khan uniforms or tos don't fit the timeline in my Opinion. The voyager end game uniform fit much better than what you have Mentioned.but that just me.
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  • geoff484geoff484 Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I thought the jupiter uniforms were supposed to be the new default?

    That's what I wear anyways. ToK were my fav and I feel the Jupiter uniforms are the modern version of those.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    artan42 wrote: »
    They look good, and it may encourage people to buy them.

    I'd like to see an even more tailored down Odyssey made free so everyone can have A version and then have fancier variants at higher starbase tiers, maybe with function-oriented versions at holdings.

    Maybe the free version would be missing the chest stripe. Department colored yoke. Black top. No stripe. Might also be nice to see a proper Odyssey badge. I think a delta with flat sides rather than the etched look would be good. Basically, the TNG movie badge without the bar behind it.

    So you'd have, say...

    Odyssey Labcoat at max Science. (Odyssey TNG Dr. Crusher style)
    Odyssey Rolled Up Sleeves and Toolkit at max Engineering. (Odyssey DS9 O'Brien style)
    Odyssey Station Security. (Based on the Station Security goalie look from the TOS films.)
    Odyssey Dress at max Diplomacy. (First Contact Diplomacy crossed with Odyssey)
    Odyssey Short Sleeve at max Recruitment. (Based on the TMP Kirk short sleeve look.)

    For Klingons, variants with different trim styles and capes.

    For the C-Store, Odyssey executive jacket and Odyssey unzipped.

    And maybe an accolade for completing all mission fronts that awards an Odyssey Admiral ala the DS9 admiral. Klingon side a special baldric. Romulan side a special helmet.
  • morkargh117morkargh117 Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Starfleet was moving towards a full piece jumpsuit style after TOS, and the game should have continued the trend. Instead we got all kinds of bizarre designs and full metal body armors that looks straight up goofy...these need to be removed from all the NPCs in the game. It hurts the Trek feel and image of the game and Starfleet for that matter. Put the NPCs in real color coded Odyssey uniforms to bring the Trek back into the game, cause right now it feels like a freaking carnival.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Early TNG and DS9 uniforms were one piece. Later TNG and DS9 plus VOY uniforms were 2-3 pieces.
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'd like to see an even more tailored down Odyssey made free so everyone can have A version and then have fancier variants at higher starbase tiers, maybe with function-oriented versions at holdings.

    Maybe the free version would be missing the chest stripe. Department colored yoke. Black top. No stripe. Might also be nice to see a proper Odyssey badge. I think a delta with flat sides rather than the etched look would be good. Basically, the TNG movie badge without the bar behind it.

    So you'd have, say...

    Odyssey Labcoat at max Science. (Odyssey TNG Dr. Crusher style)
    Odyssey Rolled Up Sleeves and Toolkit at max Engineering. (Odyssey DS9 O'Brien style)
    Odyssey Station Security. (Based on the Station Security goalie look from the TOS films.)
    Odyssey Dress at max Diplomacy. (First Contact Diplomacy crossed with Odyssey)
    Odyssey Short Sleeve at max Recruitment. (Based on the TMP Kirk short sleeve look.)

    For Klingons, variants with different trim styles and capes.

    For the C-Store, Odyssey executive jacket and Odyssey unzipped.

    And maybe an accolade for completing all mission fronts that awards an Odyssey Admiral ala the DS9 admiral. Klingon side a special baldric. Romulan side a special helmet.

    I would love to see the Odyssey labcoat, Admiral's jacket and the dress style made to match the current odyssesy uniform from the fleet tailor as well as an Odyssey skirt and taller boots for females. This uniform should be taken all the way.
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    At this point almost anything would be better then those place holder uniforms form 2010.
    I beam onto my ship almost every day and ... /shrudder/
  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I like this idea very much... dunno how hard it is to code, or better question, how much value is there for them to do it for investing man hour in such a project? Unless it's a "button" you can purchase at the C-store...
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