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Will You Fire On Another Romulan/Warbird?

radaikofromulusradaikofromulus Member Posts: 164 Arc User
edited April 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
It's been decided that at end-game level, a player on the Romulan faction, must choose to permanently ally themselves to one of the existing factions.

If I find myself in PvP I will definitely have no qualms firing on a Klingon or Federation ship, but I have no interest in fighting my own people. Will you fire on a Romulan ship?
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    nope and no one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can make me and I mean no one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    No as Treason is never acceptable

    I will however blow the living daylights out of any Reman who defies the Empire
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    IMHO, there's no such thing as role-playing when doing PvP. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Unless you want to be blown up, you'll have no choice. Cryptic made this, quite simply, crazy decision. The rest of us have to live with it. To be fair, it's no different from having a FED vs FED PvP or KDF vs KDF PvP. The issue lies with their war efforts in aiding the Federation/Klingon.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yes, as they are pixels in a computer game made to look like ships and people from a fictional universe.

    i think i can live with that moral dilemma.

    why has no one brought up the issue of blowing up Terrans ships before? or when klingons fight the klingon rebels in events? i've never heard a single player mention either as a problem.

    or is this just finding something to moan about?
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Theres no such thing as a humble opinion

    And Anyone who fires on his own side is a traitor
    (except if its part of a training exersize)

    If I was in charge it would be impossible to even target a friendly ship
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    IMHO, there's no such thing as role-playing when doing PvP. :)

    well then we will call it new gameplay rom don't kill roms we cloak and hide till game over :)
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,891 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Is it much different in FvF or KvK pvp?
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  • aegon1iceaegon1ice Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    You don't play FvF or KvK in PvP, do you? This whole "I don't shoot my fellows attitude" is just ridiculous.... :rolleyes:

    If you want to see it in a RP way, just imagine it as a battle training on Holodeck or a Wargames scenario like in the one TNG Episode with the Ent-D and the Constellation Class...
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    if it really bothers people then take comfort in that fact that you respawn 15 seconds after death so no one ever really gets hurt.
  • radaikofromulusradaikofromulus Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Unless you want to be blown up, you'll have no choice. Cryptic made this, quite simply, crazy decision. The rest of us have to live with it. To be fair, it's no different from having a FED vs FED PvP or KDF vs KDF PvP. The issue lies with their war efforts in aiding the Federation/Klingon.

    I'm willing to take a few hits and drop a line in local chat to let the other Warbird know the deal. If need be I'll cloak and evade. It's non-sensical. I have no desire to do it, even at my own peril.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    if it really bothers people then take comfort in that fact that you respawn 15 seconds after death so no one ever really gets hurt.

    I...see... what your doing and nope not going to fall for it :)
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    I...see... what your doing and nope not going to fall for it :)

    I'm serious. I can never understand how people can take one aspect so seriously like its a life and death moral choice when there is a game mechanic tied to it that totally take any kind of immersion away.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    I...see... what your doing and nope not going to fall for it :)
    Well, as I keep saying, if someone is going to fall for all the other non-canon stupidities in the game - and hand-wave away all gaming tropes to suit their needs - then accepting that Roms will shoot at Roms isn't a bid deal. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • squidheadjaxsquidheadjax Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Unless you want to be blown up, you'll have no choice. Cryptic made this, quite simply, crazy decision. The rest of us have to live with it. To be fair, it's no different from having a FED vs FED PvP or KDF vs KDF PvP. The issue lies with their war efforts in aiding the Federation/Klingon.

    Yeah. It's not the civil war aspect - that was pretty much a given, and actually well-established - it's the "pawn of the big 2" aspect.
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  • radaikofromulusradaikofromulus Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    aegon1ice wrote: »
    You don't play FvF or KvK in PvP, do you? This whole "I don't shoot my fellows attitude" is just ridiculous.... :rolleyes:

    If you want to see it in a RP way, just imagine it as a battle training on Holodeck or a Wargames scenario like in the one TNG Episode with the Ent-D and the Constellation Class...

    The FvF and KvK PvP like capture the flag and the Klingon enemy house scenario are different and not what I'm talking about. The FvF capture the flag PvP is a war games simulation, says so when you pick up the mission. The Klingon vs. rebels/enemy house is just normal for them, has been since TNG.

    RvR killing each other in a non war games drill is not a normal game play style for Romulans in my opinion. I have no desire to fight a Warbird in Ker'rat over a petty resource conflict between the Feds and the Klingons.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    aegon1ice wrote: »
    You don't play FvF or KvK in PvP, do you? This whole "I don't shoot my fellows attitude" is just ridiculous....

    If you want to see it in a RP way, just imagine it as a battle training on Holodeck or a Wargames scenario like in the one TNG Episode with the Ent-D and the Constellation Class...
    Whilst the principle is just, the cause isn't. The way Cryptic are handling the Romulan faction is terrible. They're splitting them up (a newfound group of settlers; followers of D'Tan are being forced to join one side of a war that isn't their fight). From a lore point of view, this has epic fail written all over it.
    radaikofromulus wrote: »
    I'm willing to take a few hits and drop a line in local chat to let the other Warbird know the deal. If need be I'll cloak and evade. It's non-sensical. I have no desire to do it, even at my own peril.
    May you rest in pieces.
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  • radaikofromulusradaikofromulus Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    Yes, as they are pixels in a computer game made to look like ships and people from a fictional universe.

    i think i can live with that moral dilemma.

    why has no one brought up the issue of blowing up Terrans ships before? or when klingons fight the klingon rebels in events? i've never heard a single player mention either as a problem.

    or is this just finding something to moan about?



    The FvF and KvK PvP like capture the flag and the Klingon enemy house scenario are different and not what I'm talking about. The FvF capture the flag PvP is a war games simulation, says so when you pick up the mission. The Klingon vs. rebels/enemy house is just normal for them, has been since TNG.

    RvR killing each other in a non war games drill is not a normal game play style for Romulans in my opinion. I have no desire to fight a Warbird in Ker'rat over a petty resource conflict between the Feds and the Klingons.

    FYI: Not looking for something to moan about, just trying to get an understanding of where I am in relation to others. The decision has been made, I'm ready to live with it. I'm now trying to see where other players fall so I know what public PvP will look like for me.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Yeah, because they will fire on me...that's called PVP.
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  • dixoniumdixonium Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Will I fire on another warbird? Yes, yes I will. Without hesitation. They've made the wrong choice!
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    objective-based PVP is OORP, Cryptic's storyline is OORP, most of the leading PVP ships are OORP setups, so ... at this point its not worth considering IMO

    people who come here to play STAR TREK flying a cruiser with phaser beams and photon torpedoes, set themselves up for disappointment ... STAR TREK is over there (*waves vaguely*) this is STO
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  • radaikofromulusradaikofromulus Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    I'm serious. I can never understand how people can take one aspect so seriously like its a life and death moral choice when there is a game mechanic tied to it that totally take any kind of immersion away.

    I get what you are saying and I certainly don't want anyone to feel under attack. This forum post was a question to gauge where players fit in. I'm not worried anyone would get their ship blown up and then be forced out of the match until reset. For me there is a tiny matter of just deciding for myself how I chose to go along with the pitting of Romulan against Romulan in a PvP match that has nothing to do with war games simulation or civil war role play.

    I hope that makes a little sense and clarifies my position a little bit. And just to clarify a little further: we each make gameplay decisions for our toons, factions and even for our fleets. I'm not criticizing anyone's decision to fire on an oppositely aligned Warbird. I'm saying that I won't and I'm looking to see if I'm alone in that regard.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    If he shoots me, I'll shoot him.
  • kyeto13kyeto13 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I probably won't be playing a Romulan toon. But my rule of thumb is that if you shoot me, I will defend my ship and my crew.

    And if you go into an active PVP zone, expect to be fired upon.

    As far as roleplay goes, My roleplay is dialed back in pvp matches. If anything, the other team is a renegade captain, hijacked ships, or war games. Take your pick. Either way, I'm going in shooting.
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  • cloudwashercloudwasher Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    As far as I'm concerned, if they align with those dirty feddies then they deserved it.
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    edited March 2013
    just throwing in my viewpoint here...i don't know which faction i'll be aligning with (leaning towards the KDF because they have the better toys), but when i do choose, i don't care who throws in their lot with the other side; if they get in my way, they'll perish under the power of my guns
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  • loverofwarsloverofwars Member Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    probably will shoot reason after chooseing you gain that alleys ships meaning romulans can use fed or kdf ships in pvp for now it is only fleet ships the most powerful ships around probably more so then any romulan ship so my guess is they will use the alleys ships for pvp instead reasoning c store ships 9 consoles only fleet 10 i would have liked romulans in pvp to be able to shoot at both fed and kdf such as flying into kerrat seeing a fed and kdf then opening fire on them both ill try to do that after all the choice to join them isnt till later so i may be able to join as a third for a bit
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    The idea of seeing Romulan warships on BOTH sides sickens me to the stomach more than any other ship implementation in the game.

    It's bad enough where we have all these Lockbox ships being usable by any side. It's bad enough seeing Galors, Jem'Hadar warships, which really should be part of a later playable faction, being used by both Starfleet and the Klingon Empire. But now seeing Romulan warships, a core race and power group since the TOS days, being split off into both factions is just disappointing.

    In a perfect world, I would have loved to see a 3 way: FvKvR PVP queues. With signature warships of each faction specific only to that faction.
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  • dontphasemedontphaseme Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Why wouldn't they fire on other romulans? They never seemed to have any problem with it in the shows.
  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Romulans and remens shouldn't end up fighting each other in some one else's war. Also there shouldn't be roms flying starfleet or kdf ships. Or Feds/kdf in rom ships. It just a bad concept all round when you reach end game. How is it a faction when roms join the current 2 and can end up fighting themselves?? Just a bad concept and a poor direction to take all the hard work put in developing this '3rd faction'
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