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Season 7 Dev Blog #31 (New Dominion Lock Box and Lobi Ships)

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  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    You failed to realize a golden opportunity.
    And not for the first time, I might add.

    Ever since the game started, there's been a specific Jem'Hadar weapon I've had my eye on:
    Kar'Takin
    It's even on display on Earth Spacedock:
    Kar'Takin on ESD

    When the Dominion Featured Series came out, I fully expected this to be one of the mission rewards.
    And now with this Lockbox, I expected the same.

    Disappointed both times.


    Also, as an aside, does the introduction of Dominion ships ingame sound the deathnell for a playable faction based around these ships?

    I was eagerly anticipating a True Way faction which would allow me to make a Jem'Hadar Captain who could fly Dominion vessels.
    I was going to give him all Dominion themed items, Polaron weapons, Vorta Science Officer, Jem'Hadar sets etc so on.
    I'd even spend lobi on upgrading the Jem'Hadar gear for this character.

    But with all these ships being made available via lockboxes, it seems highly unlikely they'll just give them to us for free for a Jem'Hadar Captain to fly.

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  • eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I must say, as an engy player, I do like these ships coming out with just 1 high end tac slot. Some punch while still retaining main engy capablities.

    Apart from the battle cloak, the Jem HEC beats the KDF vet ship hands down I think. Just wish the vet ship had 10 console slots.
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  • pissycutapissycuta Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Only thing is, not everyone is an engy... AND we already have Galor, D'kora and some countless cruisers and the Ambassador on the way... so yes, we REALLY needed more cruisers... at least call it Sort-of Cruiser Carrier... not Heavy Escort....
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I like mirror VoQ and the nadeon console. Though the influx of Dominion ships without a Cardie/ Dominion faction makes me wonder if that faction will ever exist.
    After KDF completion and a working RSE faction of course.
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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    You failed to realize a golden opportunity.
    And not for the first time, I might add.

    Ever since the game started, there's been a specific Jem'Hadar weapon I've had my eye on:
    Kar'Takin
    It's even on display on Earth Spacedock:
    Kar'Takin on ESD

    When the Dominion Featured Series came out, I fully expected this to be one of the mission rewards.
    And now with this Lockbox, I expected the same.

    Disappointed both times.

    I second your disappointment.
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  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I like mirror VoQ and the nadeon console. Though the influx of Dominion ships without a Cardie/ Dominion faction makes me wonder if that faction will ever exist.
    After KDF completion and a working RSE faction of course.

    It really can't now. Neither can it exist as a reputation faction. What would they have left to reward?
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    sophlogimo wrote: »
    Actually, my hope is that this will end the demise of beams, in that they give us some kind of "beam rapid fire" power or improve beams (or nerf cannons) in some other way soon.

    I can agree on the Beam Rapid Fire BOff ability, but beams will need a power drain change to not bottom out during its use in my opinion.
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  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    You failed to realize a golden opportunity.
    And not for the first time, I might add.

    Ever since the game started, there's been a specific Jem'Hadar weapon I've had my eye on:
    Kar'Takin
    It's even on display on Earth Spacedock:
    Kar'Takin on ESD

    I think the devs stated yesterday that the animations necessary for that particular weapon to be used in game do not yet exist so they decided to skip it this go around.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bloctoad wrote: »
    It really can't now. Neither can it exist as a reputation faction. What would they have left to reward?

    Hence my concern that they have lockboxed themselves into never having STO having even minimum factions to represent all the powers that exist in the IP.
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  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I can agree on the Beam Rapid Fire BOff ability, but beams will need a power drain change to not bottom out during its use in my opinion.

    Who was it I heard yesterday that said they no longer venture into the forums? :::: taps finger against cheek while trying to remember which of his friends made that comment ...
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,873 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bloctoad wrote: »
    It really can't now. Neither can it exist as a reputation faction. What would they have left to reward?

    Why can't it be a rep faction? They can make up some new gear...maybe make Dominion Polaron weapons...make a special dominion polaron beam and some type of torp and console.
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  • silverserasilversera Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I can agree on the Beam Rapid Fire BOff ability, but beams will need a power drain change to not bottom out during its use in my opinion.

    I can agree with that, right now 4 dual beam have barely more dps than 4 single canon, even if their firing arc is 90? versus 180? beam power issue is that bad.

    Second issue is the lack of beam version of the turrets you can't do good dps is you can't use your boss ability on your rear weapons
  • archoncrypticarchoncryptic Member, Cryptic Developers Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Just a quick note, I'll be increasing the turn rate on the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier from 12 to 13 soon. Not sure when this will make it live.
  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    Just a quick note, I'll be increasing the turn rate on the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier from 12 to 13 soon. Not sure when this will make it live.

    Don't forget to lower the shield modifier and hull hit points to compensate.....
  • starlancedstarlanced Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    darkenzedd wrote: »
    Don't forget to lower the shield modifier and hull hit points to compensate.....

    For what? It's far from OP, it needs turn bad, even my vesta is faster
  • pissycutapissycuta Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    wow from 12 to 13... Can we have an explanation why this is called an ESCORT? Turn rate of a fast cruiser, boff layout of a cruiser, consoles like a fleet excelsior... At least make that lt.cmdr a uni slot....
  • starlancedstarlanced Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Yeah really 1 isn't enough, needs 2. The Fleet HEC which is pretty much the same ship minus a bit of different layout, has a turn of 15!
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,873 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    starlanced wrote: »
    Yeah really 1 isn't enough, needs 2. The Fleet HEC which is pretty much the same ship minus a bit of different layout, has a turn of 15!

    Same thing except for it has more than 2k hull, a very slight higher shield mod, 150 more crew, and 5 less weapon power for 5 more aux and shield power.

    I would say its a little more than the same ship.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    silversera wrote: »
    I can agree with that, right now 4 dual beam have barely more dps than 4 single canon, even if their firing arc is 90? versus 180? beam power issue is that bad.

    Second issue is the lack of beam version of the turrets you can't do good dps is you can't use your boss ability on your rear weapons

    Whats the firing rate of DBBs? 4 shots per cycle or less, because frankly I find them ok.
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Just a quick note, I'll be increasing the turn rate on the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier from 12 to 13 soon. Not sure when this will make it live.

    Interesting.

    It seems to look very much like the Breen BC at this point, and less like an escort. Although 3 rear weapons as opposed to 4.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    genhauk wrote: »
    Who was it I heard yesterday that said they no longer venture into the forums? :::: taps finger against cheek while trying to remember which of his friends made that comment ...

    I tried to leave and it drug me back in <familiar soundtrack in the background>
    What can I say talking to the trolling feds on certain subjects finally caused my temper to flare back up. Couple that with certain aspects of STO in general and my BS meter had reached its apex. I needed a time out, so I took some time.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    pissycuta wrote: »
    wow from 12 to 13... Can we have an explanation why this is called an ESCORT? Turn rate of a fast cruiser, boff layout of a cruiser, consoles like a fleet excelsior... At least make that lt.cmdr a uni slot....

    It is an Escort Carrier... Look them up on wikipedia.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I like mirror VoQ and the nadeon console. Though the influx of Dominion ships without a Cardie/ Dominion faction makes me wonder if that faction will ever exist.
    After KDF completion and a working RSE faction of course.

    Worry not about that, because by the time al of this happens, these ships will be obsolete and have becomed a part of the STO history and this lockbox will be long forgotten. ;)
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  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    starlanced wrote: »
    For what? It's far from OP, it needs turn bad, even my vesta is faster

    So, fly your Vesta then. If a ship gets a buff, it usually has to lose something in return.
  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Such a pity there is only one MU ship that my science character will favor the other ones favour engineering. May give this lockbox a miss
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    These are Bind-on-Pickup.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Since there bin on pickup is it possibke to get these also with Dilithium as Lobi crystals being the only source of purchase seems a bit extreme
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  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    pissycuta wrote: »
    boff layout of a cruiser
    That's not true. Cruisers all have Cdr Eng, Science Ships all have Cdr Sci, Escorts have Cdr Tac.

    This ship should be compared to the Heavy Destroyer, and is essentially a Chimera giving up mobility for a hanger.
  • tilartatilarta Member Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I haven't seen an Mk12 Jem'Hadar ground set yet, but I did see one component of the space set.

    Unique - Max of one per character.

    I'm not sure that's a good idea.

    What if you wanted to equip multiple sets across several ships?
    If you swap ships a lot, it would be inconvenient to migrate the entire set to whatever ship you wanted to use.

    And similarly, what if you wanted to kit out an entire away team or crew with the ground set?
    Would this also be nixed by the Unique restriction?

    The way I see it, Mk12 is endgame gear.
    I don't know much about MACO, Omega or KHG sets, but I'm assuming if you invest the time in collecting the Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors, you could theorectically assemble several sets of these.

    So, it would be fair if you can do this with the Jem'Hadar sets as well, in case a player is motivated to do this for whatever reason.

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  • walkincrowwalkincrow Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Since you have to have the Jem Bug on your character to unlock the new Bug carrier pet, I was thinking....

    Maybe we could also have a Jem escort carrier pet for those select few people that have both the new dreadnaught carrier and the Jem escort carrier.

    Each dreadnaught hanger could support 2 wings of the escort carriers pets, which after launched would each support 2 wings of their own Jem fighter pets.

    This way you could launch up to 4 wings of escort carriers that would launch up to 8 wings of Jem fighters so in theory you could have up to 12 carrier pets!

    C'mon think about it :P

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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Wow, i'm surprised by the BO layout of the Dominion Dreadnought and the Cruiser. I would have expected them to have a much more "tanky" setup.

    Congratulatins devs, you have finally found out that no one wants to fly a super tank, althrough the dreadnought would have been more than qualified for that. Now the galaxy class is officially the most boring and lame ship in the game.
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