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Season 7 Dev Blog #31 (New Dominion Lock Box and Lobi Ships)

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  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited January 2013
    So the Lobi store really has replaced the cstore. Sets that are nothing to do with cannon rarity, and can be obtained by playing normal missions, can now only be upgraded to Mk12 by spending stupid amounts of money on Lobi!

    why?
    They have nothing to do with the Lobi store, it should be in the cstore, fleet store or reputation store....
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    darkenzedd wrote: »
    So the Lobi store really has replaced the cstore. Sets that are nothing to do with cannon rarity, and can be obtained by playing normal missions, can now only be upgraded to Mk12 by spending stupid amounts of money on Lobi!

    why?
    They have nothing to do with the Lobi store, it should be in the cstore, fleet store or reputation store....

    I don't know if I would go that far...we got the Vesta recently...we know the Andorian ship is gonna be on the c store. If they do like they did with the Odyssey and Bortas with the Ambassador and the Kamarag we know they will be on the c store.

    Whats so hard about that...its not like the pump out a lockbox every month.
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  • eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Can the stats of the Jemmy carrier ship pets, both frigates (bug ship) and fighters, be posted too? Abilities and weapons load outs namely.

    Fighters have a pulse cannon and DEM1 is all we know about either of them.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Can the stats of the Jemmy carrier ship pets, both frigates (bug ship) and fighters, be posted too? Abilities and weapons load outs namely.

    Fighters have a pulse cannon and DEM1 is all we know about either of them.

    Thats probably all they do have, fighters are generally pretty light on the weapons/abilities. I wish there was more because this really makes it perhaps the weakest fighters in the game...especially since they won't have upgrades like the Widows I'm guessing.
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  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    myself i am not interested in the jem ships but would rather have the new ships that are supposed to be released on the 3rd year of STO , any new info please ?
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sure you got the stats right, Bran? Seems like the Carrier's BOFF layout should be for the Heavy Escort and the Heavy Escort's BOFF layout should be for the Dreadnaught.
  • atatassaultatatassault Member Posts: 1,008 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Guys, this thing is a Dreadnought. It doesn't deserve to have a turn rate higher than six.
    Unfortunately, game mechanics take presence over fluff. If there were a high DPS weapon that worked best on low turn rate ships, then there would be no problem.

    As it stands, Dreadnaughts, which in vernacular are supposed to be slow and VERY powerful, are slow and weak in STO.
  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sure you got the stats right, Bran? Seems like the Carrier's BOFF layout should be for the Heavy Escort and the Heavy Escort's BOFF layout should be for the Dreadnaught.


    You know, I was kinda wondering the same thing, the HEC looks like it'd be a better fit for a tank/Engineer build. Whereas the Carrier looks like it'd fit a Tac better.
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  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I was excited about these ships until I saw the ho-hum stats. I was hoping for some OPness - but got some standard HEC - about on par with the Fed HEC - which is account wide and will have a fleet version which will put it up over this in my opinion.

    The Dread - well it's just lame stats and boff layout wise. There is only 1 way that they could get me to pony up for this and that is to make it size appropriate at 2 or 3x the size of the Galaxy - so that it is purely a novelty thing when in any PvE match.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Sure you got the stats right, Bran? Seems like the Carrier's BOFF layout should be for the Heavy Escort and the Heavy Escort's BOFF layout should be for the Dreadnaught.

    Yeah...they really should be reversed.
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  • thezoo69thezoo69 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I was reading that the post was not correct or had a typo and was wondering if that were true of the Jem'Hadar HEC Turn-rate. 12 seems very low for an expensive & somewhat rare ship considering other Escorts (with fighters or not) range from 15 - 17. And the Bug Ship is 20, so Dominion obviously have experience with manuverbility :)

    Hope this is corrected for tomorrow.

    Cheers,
    Zoo
  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    Any ship with less than 10 turnrate can't use cannons properly, even in pve. And any ship with a Cmdr tac geared with beam is a massive fail. I don't see your logic behind this argument, except that you don't want decent carriers bothering you in pvp. :P

    Funny I use DHC on a Voquv and on a Bortasqu all the time in elite STFs. I even guarded the kang with a 4DHC 4 turret bort once just to prove it can be done. It doesn't work to good in pvp though but I did try it a few times and ended up 3rd in damage and kills, not as much as if I would have used beams or single cannons on it, but it still worked. With the right spec, gear, doffs and piloting skill its quite manageble in pve. Soloing cubes on elite is very easy with a DHC bortas to.

    This new jem dreadnought will be great in pve with DHC, and will do somewhat ok in pvp using single cannons or beams, but its main failingin pvp is that a ship that turns that slow kind of needs more heals like a bortas has.
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  • eagledracoeagledraco Member Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    tehjonel wrote: »
    i'm still upset about the unique bridge cop out.

    that huge dreadnaught in a bridge made for a small ship like the attack ship? come on. is this supposed to be "the" star trek game or not? this was the perfect opportunity to see some really cool jem'hadar bridge designs and you guys dropped the ball.

    PWE needs to do something about the lack of environment artists on the STO team. Taco-Dude must be seriously overworked for Cryptic to release these large carriers with that small attack ship bridge.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    eagledraco wrote: »
    PWE needs to do something about the lack of environment artists on the STO team. Taco-Dude must be seriously overworked for Cryptic to release these large carriers with that small attack ship bridge.

    He has a real name...it's Taco fangs :D
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  • eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Thats probably all they do have, fighters are generally pretty light on the weapons/abilities. I wish there was more because this really makes it perhaps the weakest fighters in the game...especially since they won't have upgrades like the Widows I'm guessing.

    True I guess for common white ones. I guess I just want to see what the advanced or elite variants have on them to see how they differ to other pets.

    Details on advanced or elite Jemmy fighters and bug ship frigates would be nice.
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  • eagledracoeagledraco Member Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Can someone point me to where the blog talks about XI and XII Dominion space and ground sets? I cannot find them in blogs 30 & 31. I know the XI sets come from doing the featured episode. No idea about Mk XII.
  • ruinsfateruinsfate Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    True I guess for common white ones. I guess I just want to see what the advanced or elite variants have on them to see how they differ to other pets.

    Details on advanced or elite Jemmy fighters and bug ship frigates would be nice.

    Hopefully they actually put in advanced jem fighters, unlike the recluse and its widows. I know the blog mention scaling versions of the attack ships, so there MIGHT be fighters, but...
  • slick97477slick97477 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So really this is what is being given to the players for anniversary for playing your game,another lockbox for us to spend our cash money on....Wow nice to know they care about us players Never quite heard of a anniversary being handled like this before
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    slick97477 wrote: »
    So really this is what is being given to the players for anniversary for playing your game,another lockbox for us to spend our cash money on....Wow nice to know they care about us players Never quite heard of a anniversary being handled like this before
    The anniversary is in February, it's still January tomorrow, and it has been stated already on the web page that the anniversary ship is the Ambassador class, and the KDF ship whose name I forgot .lockbox ships have nothing to do with the anniversary.
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  • slick97477slick97477 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Thank you for clarifying that
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  • illcadiaillcadia Member Posts: 1,412 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2013
    Now here's the question everyone else has missed:

    Will the new Dominion ships benefit from the 3 piece Jem-Hadar set 'Victory is Life' bonus that previously only the bug benefited from?
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    illcadia wrote: »
    Now here's the question everyone else has missed:

    Will the new Dominion ships benefit from the 3 piece Jem-Hadar set 'Victory is Life' bonus that previously only the bug benefited from?

    Yes, I believe the set has been updated to specify that it works on all Dominion ships.
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  • digimatldigimatl Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I wont say anything about the whole Lockbox thingy...

    and still i dont really like federation crews flying around in alien ships.

    But the ship models, hell they look really awesome, nice Job there :)
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  • r37r37 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I was looking forward to the Hec, not anymore.....


    The Dread may work in PVE if the inertia rating is high enough. It has enough engineer consoles to buff the turn rating to the point where it could be quite usable. The inertia rating is the key to a manageable cannon ship. There's not point even trying a cannon build if you slide every time you try to turn & take 5 seconds to stop.
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  • pissycutapissycuta Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I must agree that i've been eagerly waiting the JH HEC myself, now not so much... or not at all... PLEASE reconsider that BOFF layout, it's called an ESCORT heavy CARRIER not a CRUISER, in essence it's as "low" as the temporal destroyer, which i have and used with cmdr. tac and lt. tac and only do like half the damage i can do with an Armitage or JH Bug.
    So you it will be either a Cmdr. tac / lt. tac and NO Sci abilities so bye bye HE / TSS / PH etc which in STF will get you totally wasted. OR i can choose to play with only ONE tactical officer... good deal for an ATTACK ship... i bloody run 2 tacs in my sci ships...
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Dear Cryptic ,

    Could you please-please put the Bug ship into this lock box as well ?

    I'm not asking specifically 4 myself (I have one , but would not say "no" to a second one :)) , but rather for the players who will have to look at a 400 Million EC cost at the Exchange today , and will have to look at a 500 Million price tag in 4-6 weeks if things go up in price the way they have up till now .

    At which point -- considering that you've "linked" the availability of the Bug to the availability of certain "carrier pets" -- well , I'm just hoping that the fans won't go rioting once again ... .
    (considering that the Bug ship is outside the EC means of most players today)

    Remember , even the illusion of a chance at something is better then no chance at all . :cool:

    Thanks !
  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    The anniversary is in February, it's still January tomorrow, and it has been stated already on the web page that the anniversary ship is the Ambassador class, and the KDF ship whose name I forgot .lockbox ships have nothing to do with the anniversary.

    if you look ingame at the calender it says it starts on the 31st of january and not febuary like you say
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