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If Cryptic held a poll, would you vote to revert S7?
voporak
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Is S7 worth it to you? Are you happy with it? Do you even want to play the game? Can you play the game?
If Cryptic really held a vote, would you say yes or no to temporarily going back to S6 until the devs listen to the community and fix up S7? (I don't know if that's even possible, but if it was would you want them to)
I would say yes to putting it back to S6 for the moment because of 1) Something in S7 is causing my game to not work at all, 2) From the patch notes and what players describe (good, bad, or just informative), S7 is not all that the devs promised. In fact, it's almost a nightmare.
What would you say?
If Cryptic really held a vote, would you say yes or no to temporarily going back to S6 until the devs listen to the community and fix up S7? (I don't know if that's even possible, but if it was would you want them to)
I would say yes to putting it back to S6 for the moment because of 1) Something in S7 is causing my game to not work at all, 2) From the patch notes and what players describe (good, bad, or just informative), S7 is not all that the devs promised. In fact, it's almost a nightmare.
What would you say?
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Sorry but from my point of view, dev's listened to the community on a number of things that are in S7.
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The Romulan content and the tier system
Could have been added without
Omega marks
Romulan marks
Neural processors
Using the old STF salvage
There was no need of this new currency
With the new Dil sinks Thete was no need
To change rewards on anything except to add
Salvage where needed.
Without taking away rewards from players
Season 7 would be a LOT more acceptable
To everyone
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Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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Vote: NO, as the game will be better in the long run with these changes... especially after the OP and all the others rage quit. Do you know how I know it will be better? Because they have been doing this for a long time and all of you cry babies have zero experience, except for Monday morning quarter backing like you own the place...
I Support Disco | Disco is Love | Disco is Life
Accusations of rage. Anger at a simple question of people's opinion. This is the straw that broke the camel's back. This is what the community has come to. What do we have left when we've come to raging at someone's point of view? Where was I whining? Where was I raging? Where was I talking of quitting? Do you even know where you're coming from?
Is this really what we have come to?
+1 to this. Where's the love for the KDF?
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
Have you tried getting customer support to see what is wrong or try reinstalling the game in case of a bad installation? In another MMO, a few instances were completely inaccessible due to a bad installation and reinstalling the game fixed that up.
Also did you start a thread in the bug section to see if someone has an idea how to fix it? The only way to say a season is bad is if you try it yourself.
I did reinstall the game today, still broken, and I've made two threads in the PC & Technical section but no solution has been found.
Things I wish they'd change are things like the total lack of Dilithium, the one click foundry missions (I know people will dislike me for liking those, but with 9 toons, it came in handy), the timers on the reputation projects need halved... Part of the fun in playing anything, is instant gratification, but most of the STF gear I already had at mark XII, now because of excessively long timers, it's going to take me months to get to the level where I can acquire the last few bits I need.
That said, I like that it's not all down to random chance, I like that New Romulus is an open zone and not all about the "go here and kill 5 groups of {insert name}". I like that they've reduced the requirements for DOFFs on Starbase upgrades (though this still needs brought down further, along with all other requirements as they kill small fleets and make baby pandas cry).
If they could iron out the bugs and sort the excessive requirements and timers on things, then it'd be fine in my book.
I can tell your of very limited experience I'n mmos
When Fan based mmos like (star trek ) destroy there
Loyal Fan base with bad decisions the game usually
Dies
Prime example is star wars galaxies
STO has not went that far and the management is listing
To it's fan base which is VERY positive ( soe ) refused to
Listen and it's CEO was very insulting to the fan base, the mmo
Died.
Hopefully the STO will listen to the rumbles and
Readjust it's goals to be more acceptable to it's players
However if you want to quit with your attitude I am
Sure you won't be missed/ farewell .........
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
What you read as anger, I typed as strong disapproval.
Emotion tends not to translate well through text, though, so the mistake is understandable.
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Season 7 is very disappointing.
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Actually I was talking to the person above your reply, you had a calm opinion on the subject.
Oh, lol. Just a case of ninja posting on my part, then. Whoops.
Y'all can disregard my previous post, then
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On the whole the good outweighs the bad.
Lots of bugs but kind of expected after a big patch(Eg. I cant get into breaking the planet without being booted within 10 seconds)
The dilithium changes from teh STFs were needed as much as I dont want to admit it. And they did roll back some of their changes from none to what was proposed on teh Tribble so there's that.
Not the end of the world.
Though I kind of wish we had an eta on the next bugfix patch.
Keep moving forward.
Not for a second. I don't understand why we have to go through this every time something changes.
I know that being unable to play because of technical issues must legitimately suck for you, as well as for anybody else who's having similar issues. I hope that Cryptic is making it a high priority to get your problem addressed. The fact is, though, that every patch brings potential issues. Anybody who expected Season 7 to launch without any hiccups is delusional. Personally, I'm just hoping that they have the worst bugs solved by the end of next week.
As far as the content changes go, I'm thrilled with what I've seen so far. There have been a few things that I wasn't as happy about, but I think I understood why they were done. Overall, this has improved my enjoyment of the game already.
Rome wasn't built in a day. Give it time.
Besides: The only way is up.
If it's a tech issue - just deleting and re-install will not fix everything - you need a more deeper sweep and clean - going into the registry files/cache/defraging and so on before re-installing. If your registry is not cleaned out that is useless if you re-install.
So can you play but just don't like to?
and secondly i don't like the dilithium shift to fleet actions because there are a lot of reasons no one really played them in the first place, so forcing people to do it with dilithium is kind of unfair since they didn't go over them and fix a lot of the problems before hand.
Over all, yes. Season 7 was a really bad idea considering they could have just added the new zone and made the bribery system unlocks part of the fleet store.
Warts and all, I was having a lot of fun in Season 6. I can't stand it now. It's like a forced labor simulator being marketed as a fun game. STO was fun because the player had many opportunities to make choices, not just about what to do but how to do it, and on what time table. It needed some things fixed but this on-balance is much worse. S7 makes sweeping changes that are more than excessively greedy, but extremely disempowering.
On the other hand, if the good things in S7 could be retained while rolling back those which are demonstrably designed to limit our choices, needlessly complicate progression, deliberately waste our time and reach into our pockets, I would be all for that.
I think we get that Perfect World needs to turn a profit, but I don't think anyone would believe that they're not making tons of money selling lottery tickets already. They got greedy and made a major update that focused not so much on fun new content to extend the life of the game as something to tack the aggressive new paywall infrastructure onto.
As I write this, I am missing STO. I have grown accustomed to its sensory input patterns. But I don't recognize it now. I hope you re-think S7 before you destroy this amazing game and make a lot of nerds very sad.
ugh... this sucks that I have to spell this out for everyone, but here it goes.
No, no, you missed the point, I was saying all of you combined continue to make thread after thread about dilithium this and reputation that and s7 sux. I was trying to compare it to my insane wife who whines about everything, that's all. It was a generalization of the community of players who are making Anti-Season 7 posts and wasn't directly directly at you. Also, there was no rage on my part as i was giggling like a school girl about writing a flamming post to my fleet mates while in queue for KASE as I wrote it. So to explain in long format:
You all are really all the minority here except for initial shock of all DL being gone from STFs which I too supported the outcry to have fixed. Now that the DL is back, albeit and slightly lower levels, y'all really don't have much else to stand on and should just pipe down or leave.
I am really not sure what you guys are doing as I make more dilithium per day than I ever have while playing a wider variety of content throughout the game (<= that is better if you didn't figure that out). The dilithium exchange changing the way it has in recent days reinforces that. Fleet actions are now useful and fun... and yes I admit that I did the one click foundry missions, but that is gamming the system and those crying about it should just quit it, it's gaming the system and you can't cry when you get shut down.
The reputation system might suck in the short term for those of you who had no idea it was coming while it has been consistently alluded to for almost a year by various dev posts and web blogs and podcasts... yes the early tiers offer nothing of value for those who have been playing for a while except for the passives, but eh. All of you sound like babies or my insane wife, crying "I want it all now... waaaaaa......" As I had said... it will sustain the game as new players have a steady approach to get end game gear. You can either follow that approach with them or leave... and I am sure if everyone who is continually making anti-season seven threads (at this point) leaves.... it wont hurt that much as this game will survive it.
Of course the initial issue (DL for STFs) has been resolved and is not a primary motivator of anyone quitting anymore. I am also pretty sure that the devs could care less about what was said in the forums and probably looked at the data. They probably saw 5 times as many Fleet Actions running as STFs, because no one cared about them anymore since all you needed was the small amount of marks for you bi-daily projects. That's why they took some DL from the fleet actions and added DL to SFTs... Not because of anything anyone said in the forums, numbers speak louder than nerd rage. Notice they use the terms signal to noise ratio? That's right you all are noise... and I am saying I am tired of hearing the noise in the room....
Hmmm ~not sure if serious or knows English? ~
I never said I was quitting... this game is in no danger of shutting down or dying.
Personally like i said in my previous post, it's primarly one or two things i didn't really like as well as a less wasteful way of doing it.