Well I mainly took note that the reasoning behind removing dilithium from the game was people aren't hitting the 8 k cap.
So because I wasn't doing 8 k a day on stf before - nearly my only income, you take it away and my number is going to go up magically, great can't wait to see dilithium magically fly into my bank while I am afk :rolleyes:
Pretty much sums it up. China is all about " take their money and run " attitude.
Along with slave laws, human rights violations & etc in China. I'm not surprised to any of this due to their philosophy of putting this mentality into games especially MMO's.
This game needs to be bought and brought back into the American hands. STO needs to be sold to American game developer that actually listens to the consumers from around the world and more importantly " LISTENS " to it's consumers.
If it does not, this game is going to be shut down in probably a few years from now.
Something needs to be done. Not tomorrow, not after breakfast....NOW! This game is in serious danger of collapsing like a dying star. Right now we are red hypergiant.
yes they get a BIG FAT "F"... because we are just a revenue stream, once the revenue dries out game is closed they move on to a new stream of suckers... can anyone say... Neverwinter ?
Amusingly, those of us who cashed out our STF loot pre-S7 will definitely meet that daily refinement measurement they're using to gauge our play with for a good while.
If ... if we choose to play .
Today ... today I chose not to play .
Pretty much sums it up. China is all about " take their money and run " attitude.
Along with slave laws, human rights violations & etc in China. I'm not surprised to any of this due to their philosophy of putting this mentality into games especially MMO's.
This game needs to be bought and brought back into the American hands. STO needs to be sold to American game developer that actually listens to the consumers from around the world and more importantly " LISTENS " to it's consumers.
If it does not, this game is going to be shut down in probably a few years from now.
Something needs to be done. Not tomorrow, not after breakfast....NOW! This game is in serious danger of collapsing like a dying star. Right now we are red hypergiant.
Unfortunately, most large companies get an F from the BBB and the BBB will basically take money in exchange for improving someone's score, which makes the scoring unreliable. Additionally, that relates to service in financial transactions and things like satisfaction over patches shouldn't be reflected there.
I think there are many retail/service issues. In general, I think as more game publishers become retailers, they tend to do so seeing profits that "cutting out the middle man" provides. It's like a chef starting a full service restaurant without understanding what waiters do. That happens. It generally fails. It isn't "take your money and run." It's "take your money and die because they don't know how to use it." The only people who come out ahead are investors engaging in short-run speculation.
In general, companies don't benefit from or deliberately engineer market bubbles.
I wouldn't go ascribing "take our money and run" intent here when it seems far more plausible to me that it's more often a matter of "take our money and don't know what to do with it."
One reason I actually find it vaguely encouraging that Dan Stahl is even joking about Kickstarter-style financing. It's catching on, this idea of earmarked pledged money. Mattel just secured financing for a brand new Castle Greyskull playset for their collectors He-Man toys with it.
They did. Check the Tribble forums, there they stated that STF's will still give Dilithium directly AND indirectly via BNP turn ins.
If a company behaves like this i complain and i stop supporting this company.
Plain and simple.
The OP sort of insinuates players are lazy, want dil easy and don't want to work for it. Do you know what I did? I ran ESTF's. I routinely did them in record time. (15 mins average)
I earned my dil and I enjoyed it. Just playing one day, casually on the weekend, I made 20,000 dil from ESTF's.
My point is this. We were all told we would get 480 dil from normals and 960 from elites. Then s7 is RELEASED and patch notes show us dil is removed completely from STF's of the normal AND elite variety.
I am a lifetime subscriber. I would liken this to buying a brand new car, and then after driving it for a while, the dealership comes to my home and removes my brakes and cuts a hole in the bottom of my car, sure I can brake like Fred Flintstone, but it's just not the same. I'm saying, the new system may work "kind of" but we were told one thing, another happened, and when you have played a game for years and expect things to stay the same or similar, and are told things will stay the same or similar, you get upset when things are immediately and abruptly different.
Humans intrinsically do not like and resist change once we get into a hardcore routine. A lot of us elite players were in that mindset, we were professionals in elites, we had a way of doing things and that's what we liked. We got the job done efficiently and fast, and when things didn't go our way with noobs and what-not we let the bloody axe-handle fly.
Well the axe-handle is flying directly at Cryptic/PWE... i'm just waiting to see what happens.
The only thing Dstahl is responsible for is the Cryptic Studio's subsidiary company within Perfect World Entertainment.
- Cryptic Studios do not have a subsidiary company within Perfect World Entertainment.
Cryptic Studios ARE one of the subsidiary companies to Perfect World Entertainment.
- Dstahl is NOT responsible for is the Cryptic Studio's anything -- that would be Jack Emmert .
- Dstahl is the EP of STO , a possible information courier from the players to the Devs , and he may have something to do with cups .
I thought that if you wanted show up out of nowhere and continue to troll the fans on behalf of Cryptic , you might as well champion them better if you were better informed .
(this be a better favor than the one you tried to do for me when you delivered me a "this is how the economic world works" response that was well tailored for a 12 y/old)
I would say a big fail all the way. Now there is no good reason to do stfs other than getting NP and Omega marks. Even than, hive Onslaught is way too hard for what you get, cure got harder so forget pugging it. Other than doing Infected every 2 days for Omega mark I don't see any reason to do STF anymore. And now when they start S7 no more dilitium in STF, that would have been the only reason to do more than 1 mission every 2 days for Omega marks.
Most of the other new stuf is fun, but STF will die if they don't change anything just as almost no one played cristal entity other than fleet team. I don't see why I would work so hard for so little, no more loot, no more dilitium just Omega mark and Neural Proc, why couldn't they keep it like it was on Tribble instead of neutering stf completly.
Way to go take the fun out of the endgame content and take out a good reason to do them.
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- Cryptic Studios do not have a subsidiary company within Perfect World Entertainment.
Cryptic Studios ARE one of the subsidiary companies to Perfect World Entertainment.
- Dstahl is NOT responsible for is the Cryptic Studio's anything -- that would be Jack Emmert .
- Dstahl is the EP of STO , a possible information courier from the players to the Devs , and he may have something to do with cups .
I thought that if you wanted show up out of nowhere and continue to troll the fans on behalf of Cryptic , you might as well champion them better if you were better informed .
(this be a better favor than the one you tried to do for me when you delivered me a "this is how the economic world works" response that was well tailored for a 12 y/old)
You misread what I said. What I was trying to say is that Cryptic Studio's is a Subsidiary of (within) Perfect World Entertainment. And that Dstahl is only responsible for the Cryptic Studio's branch.
And I perhaps misunderstood Dstahl's role within Cryptic Studio's to be greater than it was. If Jack Emmert is in fact the CEO of Cryptic Studio's then he is the one who reports to Perfect World Entertainment, and by proxy is Dan Stahl's boss. Thus it is Jack Emmert who has final say (after Perfect World Entertainment) on what goes into STO, not Dan Stahl.
Either way the point is the same. It ultimately comes down to an executive order from Perfect World Entertainment one way or another.
Ma jacsam odmah usao. Prednost kada imam 4g mrezu, kupio vesta pack koji je prejeben, bacio novi stf i pokrenuo reputation projekte i odlogirao se, ali ima dosta bugova, ali osim od toga s7 je odlicna!
No. I've talked to Cryptic folks in the past about PWE. They're really behind these kinds of changes.
PWE hands them ideas which are genuinely optional and suggests that Cryptic modify them or deviate from them if it will generate more revenue. Cryptic responds, "Wow! These ideas are great." If these ideas flop, PWE will be the one blaming Cryptic for not adapting the ideas.
I PROMISE you. PWE is NOT dictatorial. Everything you see comes from Cryptic and it makes Cryptic employees ANGRY when you claim these ideas aren't theirs.
That said, I don't know that these ideas are Stahl's. My distinct impression is that his designers UNDER him fought for this change and that a few days ago, he washed his hands of this and put his faith in his employees.
There was an exchange from TTS where Stahl basically said he wasn't getting involved in the dilithium economy decisions and that he gave in and let the producers under him take the helm. And that makes sense now, since it seemed like Stahl was the one fighting against these changes at one point.
If anybody's forcing this, it's people BELOW Stahl on the totem pole, not above.
Well, maybe a mix of that and Jack Emmert, who always seemed to see FAs as the point of STO. But the final call here boils down to a system handed to Stahl by producers under him, that he abdicated decision making to.
So if you want to blame anyone, you should probably blame Al Rivera.
Because Jesse Heinig (apparently the original economist behind dilithium?) was gone in the hospital for a lot of this and Jack Emmert has spent most of his time lately on a plane or out sick. And Dan Stahl said late last week that any dilithium changes he was abdicating all authority to the systems team, because they'd debated it all and he trusted them.
So, really, the buck may stop at Dan Stahl but I'm guessing these changes pretty much had to be Al Rivera's plans, maybe loosely based on Jack Emmert's preference for Fleet Actions.
I just don't see why anyone should feel the need to run STFs now.
its hardly timfoil hat territory.
Fleet bases are simply glorified Zen Stores. Fleets seem to need dilith for buildingtheir personal Zen stores. Less Dilith means that fleets would have to buy more Zen to sell for dilith.
On the flip side there there are people like me who wont pay a dime in real money to this game. If there was something I wanted I could grind dilith - which really wasnt that bad. Now my dilith gain is reduced so if I want some new shiny ship that there isnt really any content to use in, I will need to buy Zen or grind daily for like 6 months.
So from my perspective, it looks like this change is in place to simply increase the sale of Zen.
And regardless if they are updated or not the fleet actions were horrible. Been with the game since early Beta and no one ever played them. Even if it was something you might want to do, it was very time consuming. It could be an hour or more before enough people actually appeared in your instance to actaully do it. People appear and leave. Many people just try and log in at the end so they dont have to slog thru them. Back in the day I used to use the Romulan pryamid one to grind various damage accolades. I could be there for two hours before more than one other person was around for more than 5 minutes. If no one has wanted to do these in the past 3 years I dont see anyone really wanting to do them now.
A third point is that I have played for years and done STF after STF. But now its like I have never played at all am I am expected to start a brand new grind and waits days while I complete BS projects so I can buy something I could have bought last week. LOL. All my stuff was converted and I cant even access it till I hit level 3.
From what I have seen thru out the year its just one scheme after another to make people buy Zen. Even offering "Earn Zen" options which is the same sites/methods used in one of the top internet scams. Lord knows how much of their parents money kids have wasted on "free offers".
I guess if there is a silver lining there is no new Lockbox. but they have gone to that well so much its about dry.
Lots of people have already said this but yeah I have to agree, there really isn't any point in doing ANY STF now aside from the omega marks/bnp, and once you have enough of those there really is 0 reason to ever touch an STF again.
I guess if there is a silver lining there is no new Lockbox. but they have gone to that well so much its about dry.
The next one is coming after the temporal one is done with. Most likely going to be like that until STO finally dies, there will always be a new lockbox.
You misread what I said. What I was trying to say is that Cryptic Studio's is a Subsidiary of (within) Perfect World Entertainment. And that Dstahl is only responsible for the Cryptic Studio's branch.
And I perhaps misunderstood Dstahl's role within Cryptic Studio's to be greater than it was. If Jack Emmert is in fact the CEO of Cryptic Studio's then he is the one who reports to Perfect World Entertainment, and by proxy is Dan Stahl's boss. Thus it is Jack Emmert who has final say (after Perfect World Entertainment) on what goes into STO, not Dan Stahl.
Either way the point is the same. It ultimately comes down to an executive order from Perfect World Entertainment one way or another.
I have yet to ever see an Online Petition that has ever successfully changed a companies policy.
I doubt Perfect World even knows what STO really is. Have you seen how many games run under Perfect World? Even Perfect Worl Entertainment is an American subsidiary of Perfect World. They want to see a certain profit from Cryptic. It is as easy as that. It is clearly Cryptic's decision to implement it like that.
Lots of people have already said this but yeah I have to agree, there really isn't any point in doing ANY STF now aside from the omega marks/bnp, and once you have enough of those there really is 0 reason to ever touch an STF again.
The next one is coming after the temporal one is done with. Most likely going to be like that until STO finally dies, there will always be a new lockbox.
Well, here's the further flip:
You don't need STFs for Omega Marks.
And in turn: Why do you NEED BNP? You don't need Mk XII Borg gear if you aren't continuing to fight Borg after you get it.
Suddenly you're "all dressed up and have nowhere to go" if you DO get Mk XII gear.
And I'll level: I mostly wanted Omega Mk XII to have a quasi-Cardassian costume. But I can probably get a REAL one in the next 12 months with Cardassian rep.
So the only real use I have from STFs are the Omega rep powers and I can get the omega marks outside STFs. So I don't NEED to run an STF for any of my goals anymore. I might want to a couple of times a week on non-Elite for more convenient marks. But that's it. And then I have to hope I have friends online or there are enough people in a PuG to bother since demand for running STFs will be MUCH lower.
If the problem isn't immediately obvious to Cryptic, then that's the real problem.
The vast majority of players earned dilithium two ways in Season 6, Foundry Daily and STFs. Both are no longer going to produce Dulithium anywhere near the levels they once did.
Cryptic just added an enormous content update, and only the one Red Alert daily rewards dilithium- nothing else in the new content does.
That's stupid if STO has a dilithium economy, no way to describe it any other way honestly.
Season 7 destroyed the Dilithium economy, and the only thing shocking about it is that Cryptic claims to have solid data they are fixing some issue. Yeah right, bet that data ends up being wrong.
If people really want to be able to tell Cryptic and PW what to do they just need to buy 1 share of their stock. At which point as a shareholder you can contact and order them to give you a rundown of their business plans for this game.
If enough people were to do that the player base could literally take control of the game and start dictating what they do with it.
If people really want to be able to tell Cryptic and PW what to do they just need to buy 1 share of their stock. At which point as a shareholder you can contact and order them to give you a rundown of their business plans for this game.
If enough people were to do that the player base could literally take control of the game and start dictating what they do with it.
Except that in most shareholder-run businesses, 1 share = 1 vote. Try getting all the players to come to some sort of anything approaching consensus. You'd still get outvoted by the people who happen to hold more shares than you in the business.
Yeah, it'd be a lot like getting the player base to agree on three toppings for a pizza.
Novel idea, I'll give you that, but in practice it doesn't work out that way.
Unfortunately, most large companies get an F from the BBB and the BBB will basically take money in exchange for improving someone's score, which makes the scoring unreliable. Additionally, that relates to service in financial transactions and things like satisfaction over patches shouldn't be reflected there.
This, a thousand times. I laugh any time someone brings up the threat of the BBB for the above bolded and colored reason.
To provide a source for the above statement, 20/20 ran a segment called "The Best Ratings Money Can Buy". Google/Youtube it at your leisure.
Like others, I an disappointed. STFs were the bread and butter for many players, now the Elite STF Channels are DEAD (no joke, they are almost completely silent now).
This supposed to be Eng-Game content..........not anymore.
Like others, I an disappointed. STFs were the bread and butter for many players, now the Elite STF Channels are DEAD (no joke, they are almost completely silent now).
This supposed to be Eng-Game content..........not anymore.
The other sad thing is, all the time and effort that went into designing the new STF's will have been completely wasted. Theres no reason to do them at all now, given the incredibly difficult objectives vs the paltry 1 bnp and a few omega marks for it when you can just do ISE in 10 minutes and have all you need for the next week.
It's really sad that we're back to killing Klingons for our dilithium now. I coulda sworn the Klingon story ended around level 20 or so. *yawn*
Topic way too long for me to read everything at once; and honestly, once I read the post with the link to the "No Dil in STF" post, I saw all I really needed too.
You lied. You lied to your customers becasue you were implementing something you knew was going to be unpopular. You lied to keep the playyers quiet until it went live. You lied knowing full well you intended to do what you wanted which was considerably different then what the customers wanted, so you just told us what you knew we wanted to hear and did your thing anyways.
You can justify it anyway you want with the "Well; with turn-ins you can still earn Dil so really..blah...blah..blah.." but it all still comes right back to "You lied".
I do not care what business you run; lying to your customers is never a good thing. And I am not talking about a "Oh yes; that is a nice hat Ms. Jefferson" level of lie, I mean "Well; I know you wanted a house built; and I told you I was going to build one, but I decided to build something else instead; heres your bill" level of lie.
I am exceptionally not happy with STO at the moment. And I can guarantee that you recieved your last red cent from me. Even if you decide to "fix" this change; you still have shown that you have absolutely no problems at all with bald-faced lying to the very people you depend on to buy your product.
I would love to see how you plan to fix that little problem with a patch, update or promotion.
I truly wish they would listen to us. But now the damage is done. They have chosen to ignore and ultimately punish long term older players who cannot dedicate 3 hours per toon a day to get the same dil they were getting previously in one 3 - 4 hour period.
I am too invested in this game to just up and quit in protest. But I wont be giving PWE money for zen anymore.
I will also be deleting all of my alts.
If metrics is all they will look at, then maybe if a host of us did the same they might be forced to acknowledge that this was a bad decision.
that's just it, they already KNEW it was a bad decision before it went live or they would have said something about it long before hours after it went up and slapped us all across the face. They KNEW they were going to TRIBBLE off the majority of the players, so they hid it from us intentionally.
I've been playing MMO's for many years and never have I seen such blatant disregard for customers as I've witnessed here. This isn't something that we have to accept. We need to push back and the only way a jack TRIBBLE like Stahl and his cohorts are going to get the message is when their profits start to fall.
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So because I wasn't doing 8 k a day on stf before - nearly my only income, you take it away and my number is going to go up magically, great can't wait to see dilithium magically fly into my bank while I am afk :rolleyes:
yes they get a BIG FAT "F"... because we are just a revenue stream, once the revenue dries out game is closed they move on to a new stream of suckers... can anyone say... Neverwinter
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If ... if we choose to play .
Today ... today I chose not to play .
As Scotty might say ... "they soured the milk" .
Unfortunately, most large companies get an F from the BBB and the BBB will basically take money in exchange for improving someone's score, which makes the scoring unreliable. Additionally, that relates to service in financial transactions and things like satisfaction over patches shouldn't be reflected there.
I think there are many retail/service issues. In general, I think as more game publishers become retailers, they tend to do so seeing profits that "cutting out the middle man" provides. It's like a chef starting a full service restaurant without understanding what waiters do. That happens. It generally fails. It isn't "take your money and run." It's "take your money and die because they don't know how to use it." The only people who come out ahead are investors engaging in short-run speculation.
In general, companies don't benefit from or deliberately engineer market bubbles.
I wouldn't go ascribing "take our money and run" intent here when it seems far more plausible to me that it's more often a matter of "take our money and don't know what to do with it."
One reason I actually find it vaguely encouraging that Dan Stahl is even joking about Kickstarter-style financing. It's catching on, this idea of earmarked pledged money. Mattel just secured financing for a brand new Castle Greyskull playset for their collectors He-Man toys with it.
The OP sort of insinuates players are lazy, want dil easy and don't want to work for it. Do you know what I did? I ran ESTF's. I routinely did them in record time. (15 mins average)
I earned my dil and I enjoyed it. Just playing one day, casually on the weekend, I made 20,000 dil from ESTF's.
My point is this. We were all told we would get 480 dil from normals and 960 from elites. Then s7 is RELEASED and patch notes show us dil is removed completely from STF's of the normal AND elite variety.
I am a lifetime subscriber. I would liken this to buying a brand new car, and then after driving it for a while, the dealership comes to my home and removes my brakes and cuts a hole in the bottom of my car, sure I can brake like Fred Flintstone, but it's just not the same. I'm saying, the new system may work "kind of" but we were told one thing, another happened, and when you have played a game for years and expect things to stay the same or similar, and are told things will stay the same or similar, you get upset when things are immediately and abruptly different.
Humans intrinsically do not like and resist change once we get into a hardcore routine. A lot of us elite players were in that mindset, we were professionals in elites, we had a way of doing things and that's what we liked. We got the job done efficiently and fast, and when things didn't go our way with noobs and what-not we let the bloody axe-handle fly.
Well the axe-handle is flying directly at Cryptic/PWE... i'm just waiting to see what happens.
- Cryptic Studios do not have a subsidiary company within Perfect World Entertainment.
Cryptic Studios ARE one of the subsidiary companies to Perfect World Entertainment.
- Dstahl is NOT responsible for is the Cryptic Studio's anything -- that would be Jack Emmert .
- Dstahl is the EP of STO , a possible information courier from the players to the Devs , and he may have something to do with cups .
I thought that if you wanted show up out of nowhere and continue to troll the fans on behalf of Cryptic , you might as well champion them better if you were better informed .
(this be a better favor than the one you tried to do for me when you delivered me a "this is how the economic world works" response that was well tailored for a 12 y/old)
Most of the other new stuf is fun, but STF will die if they don't change anything just as almost no one played cristal entity other than fleet team. I don't see why I would work so hard for so little, no more loot, no more dilitium just Omega mark and Neural Proc, why couldn't they keep it like it was on Tribble instead of neutering stf completly.
Way to go take the fun out of the endgame content and take out a good reason to do them.
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Kunmal: Tactical fed Klingon, ground specialist, USS Kanewaga
Ka -tet Tier 5 fleet fully completed Starbase and fleet property
You are killing the STFs
Good joob, no one is gonna ever play more than 1 or 2 at day to complete their Omega Marks requiriments
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You misread what I said. What I was trying to say is that Cryptic Studio's is a Subsidiary of (within) Perfect World Entertainment. And that Dstahl is only responsible for the Cryptic Studio's branch.
And I perhaps misunderstood Dstahl's role within Cryptic Studio's to be greater than it was. If Jack Emmert is in fact the CEO of Cryptic Studio's then he is the one who reports to Perfect World Entertainment, and by proxy is Dan Stahl's boss. Thus it is Jack Emmert who has final say (after Perfect World Entertainment) on what goes into STO, not Dan Stahl.
Either way the point is the same. It ultimately comes down to an executive order from Perfect World Entertainment one way or another.
I have yet to ever see an Online Petition that has ever successfully changed a companies policy.
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Oh gawd someone finally cracked.
Maybe not, but its more than what you're doing and what have we got to lose by trying?
its hardly timfoil hat territory.
Fleet bases are simply glorified Zen Stores. Fleets seem to need dilith for buildingtheir personal Zen stores. Less Dilith means that fleets would have to buy more Zen to sell for dilith.
On the flip side there there are people like me who wont pay a dime in real money to this game. If there was something I wanted I could grind dilith - which really wasnt that bad. Now my dilith gain is reduced so if I want some new shiny ship that there isnt really any content to use in, I will need to buy Zen or grind daily for like 6 months.
So from my perspective, it looks like this change is in place to simply increase the sale of Zen.
And regardless if they are updated or not the fleet actions were horrible. Been with the game since early Beta and no one ever played them. Even if it was something you might want to do, it was very time consuming. It could be an hour or more before enough people actually appeared in your instance to actaully do it. People appear and leave. Many people just try and log in at the end so they dont have to slog thru them. Back in the day I used to use the Romulan pryamid one to grind various damage accolades. I could be there for two hours before more than one other person was around for more than 5 minutes. If no one has wanted to do these in the past 3 years I dont see anyone really wanting to do them now.
A third point is that I have played for years and done STF after STF. But now its like I have never played at all am I am expected to start a brand new grind and waits days while I complete BS projects so I can buy something I could have bought last week. LOL. All my stuff was converted and I cant even access it till I hit level 3.
From what I have seen thru out the year its just one scheme after another to make people buy Zen. Even offering "Earn Zen" options which is the same sites/methods used in one of the top internet scams. Lord knows how much of their parents money kids have wasted on "free offers".
I guess if there is a silver lining there is no new Lockbox. but they have gone to that well so much its about dry.
The next one is coming after the temporal one is done with. Most likely going to be like that until STO finally dies, there will always be a new lockbox.
I doubt Perfect World even knows what STO really is. Have you seen how many games run under Perfect World? Even Perfect Worl Entertainment is an American subsidiary of Perfect World. They want to see a certain profit from Cryptic. It is as easy as that. It is clearly Cryptic's decision to implement it like that.
Well, here's the further flip:
You don't need STFs for Omega Marks.
And in turn: Why do you NEED BNP? You don't need Mk XII Borg gear if you aren't continuing to fight Borg after you get it.
Suddenly you're "all dressed up and have nowhere to go" if you DO get Mk XII gear.
And I'll level: I mostly wanted Omega Mk XII to have a quasi-Cardassian costume. But I can probably get a REAL one in the next 12 months with Cardassian rep.
So the only real use I have from STFs are the Omega rep powers and I can get the omega marks outside STFs. So I don't NEED to run an STF for any of my goals anymore. I might want to a couple of times a week on non-Elite for more convenient marks. But that's it. And then I have to hope I have friends online or there are enough people in a PuG to bother since demand for running STFs will be MUCH lower.
The vast majority of players earned dilithium two ways in Season 6, Foundry Daily and STFs. Both are no longer going to produce Dulithium anywhere near the levels they once did.
Cryptic just added an enormous content update, and only the one Red Alert daily rewards dilithium- nothing else in the new content does.
That's stupid if STO has a dilithium economy, no way to describe it any other way honestly.
Season 7 destroyed the Dilithium economy, and the only thing shocking about it is that Cryptic claims to have solid data they are fixing some issue. Yeah right, bet that data ends up being wrong.
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If enough people were to do that the player base could literally take control of the game and start dictating what they do with it.
actually he didnt, my co-worker translated the post he quoted.. quite funny if you can translate it as well.
Basically many curses and such lol
To quote a damned good author
'A great language for invective, spanish.'
Except that in most shareholder-run businesses, 1 share = 1 vote. Try getting all the players to come to some sort of anything approaching consensus. You'd still get outvoted by the people who happen to hold more shares than you in the business.
Yeah, it'd be a lot like getting the player base to agree on three toppings for a pizza.
Novel idea, I'll give you that, but in practice it doesn't work out that way.
This, a thousand times. I laugh any time someone brings up the threat of the BBB for the above bolded and colored reason.
To provide a source for the above statement, 20/20 ran a segment called "The Best Ratings Money Can Buy". Google/Youtube it at your leisure.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
This supposed to be Eng-Game content..........not anymore.
Aren't they even doing STF's to get omega marks?
It's really sad that we're back to killing Klingons for our dilithium now. I coulda sworn the Klingon story ended around level 20 or so. *yawn*
You lied. You lied to your customers becasue you were implementing something you knew was going to be unpopular. You lied to keep the playyers quiet until it went live. You lied knowing full well you intended to do what you wanted which was considerably different then what the customers wanted, so you just told us what you knew we wanted to hear and did your thing anyways.
You can justify it anyway you want with the "Well; with turn-ins you can still earn Dil so really..blah...blah..blah.." but it all still comes right back to "You lied".
I do not care what business you run; lying to your customers is never a good thing. And I am not talking about a "Oh yes; that is a nice hat Ms. Jefferson" level of lie, I mean "Well; I know you wanted a house built; and I told you I was going to build one, but I decided to build something else instead; heres your bill" level of lie.
I am exceptionally not happy with STO at the moment. And I can guarantee that you recieved your last red cent from me. Even if you decide to "fix" this change; you still have shown that you have absolutely no problems at all with bald-faced lying to the very people you depend on to buy your product.
I would love to see how you plan to fix that little problem with a patch, update or promotion.
I am too invested in this game to just up and quit in protest. But I wont be giving PWE money for zen anymore.
I will also be deleting all of my alts.
If metrics is all they will look at, then maybe if a host of us did the same they might be forced to acknowledge that this was a bad decision.
I've been playing MMO's for many years and never have I seen such blatant disregard for customers as I've witnessed here. This isn't something that we have to accept. We need to push back and the only way a jack TRIBBLE like Stahl and his cohorts are going to get the message is when their profits start to fall.