Maybe Dr. McCoy was incorrect in his Medical assumption that they were extinct. After all he was only a Human in space. and they haven't fixed Human Error in Star trek yet.
How dare you! Don't you know that humans are "teh awesomest" beings in the universe! Star Trek says so...repeatedly. :P
As far as salt vampires being extinct, it was only assumed because the one specimen was the only one ever recorded despite presumed later surveys of M-113 over the following 150 years. 150 years without sighting a species on its presumed homeworld and native environment is usually considered more than sufficient for assuming that it is extinct.
The really fearsome thing about salt vampires, though, is that they, like the Founders of the Dominion, have the ability to take on the appearance of anyone that they have ever seen (though unlike the Founders, they seem unable to impersonate nonliving things). They are also able to act convincingly enough to fool someone who knows the individual being impersonated--the researcher who was harboring the one on M-113 claimed that it would become his deceased wife and that it was like having her back again.
Now as for those here who say that salt vampires are not "Trek" enough, the salt vampire was in fact the FIRST Trek monster--the episode "The Man Trap" was the very first episode of Star Trek to air on NBC.
Hmmm, since salt vampires are mainly after salt to feed on, shouldn't providing them with easy access to salt keep them away from settlements? Just put out a bunch of salt licks somewhere for them to feed on. Also, throwing chunks of rock salt at one might work to distract it . . .
Well, first of all, this is a science fiction game, so the devs can have fun with science, just as Star Trek has always done.
The Salt Vampires, maybe with their genetic modifications, they were designed to specifically target Romulans, not only for the salt, but for something else in them. A replicator might not do the trick if this were the case.
Maybe we can just replicate dead Romulan bodies in a disturbing kind of farm, and dump them from orbit around the settlements to distract the salt vampires, but that's a bit unethical for Trek...
And this was a really cool mission. Like the others, I think a boss fight would be cool, but not necessary. This is some darn fine work, and the salt vampire models look great.
Well, first of all, this is a science fiction game, so the devs can have fun with science, just as Star Trek has always done.
The Salt Vampires, maybe with their genetic modifications, they were designed to specifically target Romulans, not only for the salt, but for something else in them. A replicator might not do the trick if this were the case.
Maybe we can just replicate dead Romulan bodies in a disturbing kind of farm, and dump them from orbit around the settlements to distract the salt vampires, but that's a bit unethical for Trek...
And this was a really cool mission. Like the others, I think a boss fight would be cool, but not necessary. This is some darn fine work, and the salt vampire models look great.
Or maybe just replicate Romulan blood? Presumably that would be adequate.
As far as salt vampires being extinct, it was only assumed because the one specimen was the only one ever recorded despite presumed later surveys of M-113 over the following 150 years. 150 years without sighting a species on its presumed homeworld and native environment is usually considered more than sufficient for assuming that it is extinct.
The really fearsome thing about salt vampires, though, is that they, like the Founders of the Dominion, have the ability to take on the appearance of anyone that they have ever seen (though unlike the Founders, they seem unable to impersonate nonliving things). They are also able to act convincingly enough to fool someone who knows the individual being impersonated--the researcher who was harboring the one on M-113 claimed that it would become his deceased wife and that it was like having her back again.
It's not entirely clear in the episode, but "Nancy Crater" was able make different people see her as different people simultaneously. This suggests that it wasn't a physical transformation and was actually some sort of (probably telepathic) illusion.
Or maybe just replicate Romulan blood? Presumably that would be adequate.
I suppose my vision was a bit over the top :P
But maybe it's not just the blood they'd want. Vulcans have their mental thing-a-ma-bobbers, didn't the Romulans get a bit of that? Maybe they feed off of that, even if the mental stuff is really weak in Romulans.
I think there needs to be some blogs on ground combat to sort of educate/re-educate the player base on how ground combat works since majority of player base will not likely get involved in these like mine trap which I love that one but only got to play it once when there was enough people on tribble.
I do hear from time to time when wanting to do ground combat that its star trek not ground trek. The problem is these people saying this are not true fans because they know especially because of costs it made to make the episodes and movies initially making away team video was easier and less costly than visual effects. So being ground combat and away teams is much more than 50% of what Trek lore is involved people should also get involved in ground combat which takes a lot less gear but requires more tactics but is fun nonetheless.
I think there needs to be some blogs on ground combat to sort of educate/re-educate the player base on how ground combat works since majority of player base will not likely get involved in these like mine trap which I love that one but only got to play it once when there was enough people on tribble.
I do hear from time to time when wanting to do ground combat that its star trek not ground trek. The problem is these people saying this are not true fans because they know especially because of costs it made to make the episodes and movies initially making away team video was easier and less costly than visual effects. So being ground combat and away teams is much more than 50% of what Trek lore is involved people should also get involved in ground combat which takes a lot less gear but requires more tactics but is fun nonetheless.
Exactly, the spirit of Star Trek was to explore planets, not to zoom by them in a spaceship without a second thought. Otherwise, the journey to the heavens had no point.
Nicely timed blog with Halloween in only a few days. A shame we won't get to really play it until later on. I think the mission looks fun. I like the homage to The Man Trap. Even if this isn't a story mission, IMO, treat it like one anyway. Call it The Mine Trap to bring it home.
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Very cool cannon creature inclusion. Hope to see more iconic creatures debuts as cannon fodder. That's all I ever wanted: "star trek shooting gallery online"
Nicely timed blog with Halloween in only a few days. A shame we won't get to really play it until later on. I think the mission looks fun. I like the homage to The Man Trap. Even if this isn't a story mission, IMO, treat it like one anyway. Call it The Mine Trap to bring it home.
I agree with this. Rename it The Mine Trap
It looks liek fun, and my guess is the Rombies are in fact Copper Vampires.
Actually, I was answering Jexsam. Maybe you noticed how I quoted him in my post?
Yes, I saw that. You were replying to his post, and I was replying to your post. You didnt think that your post was somehow the end of the conversation that no one else could reply to did you? If so, welcome to the internet
"The Man Trap" was a very interesting episode. As a matter of science-fiction movie fact, the salt creature design was inspired by H.G. Wells' Morlocks from "The Time Machine".
I am a little surprised to find "Star Trek" fans who do not know about "Star Trek" and science fiction history.
I bet you don't know how "Transformers: The Movie" (1986) is connected to "War of the Worlds" (1938) and "Star Trek" (1960s).
"The Man Trap" was a very interesting episode. As a matter of science-fiction movie fact, the salt creature design was inspired by H.G. Wells' Morlocks from "The Time Machine".
I am a little surprised to find "Star Trek" fans who do not know about "Star Trek" and science fiction history.
I bet you don't know how "Transformers: The Movie" (1986) is connected to "War of the Worlds" (1938) and "Star Trek" (1960s).
Sorry, I expected something a bit more than resurrecting 'campy' creatures like vampires and zombies. At least Morlocks were outright cannibals (farming humanoids for food), a bit different than creatures wandering the universe and removing nutrients/organs from chance encounters with other creatures.
Sorry, I expected something a bit more than resurrecting 'campy' creatures like vampires and zombies. At least Morlocks were outright cannibals (farming humanoids for food), a bit different than creatures wandering the universe and removing nutrients/organs from chance encounters with other creatures.
*shrugs*
Where is your imagination? "Star Trek" is all about going beyond the limitations of humanity. Many of "Star Trek's" episodes cover talking dogs, fish, cats, lizards, etc... What is the difference between a floating jelly fish and a floating Abraham Lincoln?
*shrugs*
Science-fiction begins with science facts, and then it stretches them into new realms of 'possibilities'.
If you watch science-fiction movies created prior to 2000s, you will find that writers had a better grasp on experimenting with new ideas. Current Hollywood is afraid to do new things, so they are stuck on remakes and reboots.
Cryptic is bringing in those neat concepts, which belonged to "Star Trek" history. As long as they keep them true to form, I have absolutely no problem with the species being added.
It's a nifty little nod to Trek nerds, and I approve.
I think a few people here need to take off their "I'm an elite, discerning gamer because I bash everything" beer goggles and appreciate things for what they are.
LOL wow. It seems no matter what the developers do to make the game more trek-like and include stuff from canon, some people will always find a reason to complain.
I say bring on the vampires
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LOL wow. It seems no matter what the developers do to make the game more trek-like and include stuff from canon, some people will always find a reason to complain.
I say bring on the vampires
Man, its the STO forums. They could add voice over from real actors of the shows and folks would stil be angry that either "too much money was spent on it" or they don't like to hear picard say "make it so" so often and it gets on their nerves.
Folks will always complain. The best you can do is say you like something and ignore the folks who don't like it. Someone saying they like something cancels out about 10 folks saying they hate it.
LOL wow. It seems no matter what the developers do to make the game more trek-like and include stuff from canon, some people will always find a reason to complain.
I say bring on the vampires
Makes me laugh too lol.
EDIT: Also, space vamps ftw! \o/
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I like the shout out to TOS
However since the salt vampire was killed doesnt mean it was in fact extinct. There has been so much resetting of the time line that the salt vampires could have survived as a race. And there is also genetic modifications that could have been made to make romulan blood taste better to them (Virus's etc)
Also to the person who decided it would be good for a new enemy I congratulate my only criticism is this wasn't released on holodeck for Haloween
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The really fearsome thing about salt vampires, though, is that they, like the Founders of the Dominion, have the ability to take on the appearance of anyone that they have ever seen (though unlike the Founders, they seem unable to impersonate nonliving things). They are also able to act convincingly enough to fool someone who knows the individual being impersonated--the researcher who was harboring the one on M-113 claimed that it would become his deceased wife and that it was like having her back again.
Now as for those here who say that salt vampires are not "Trek" enough, the salt vampire was in fact the FIRST Trek monster--the episode "The Man Trap" was the very first episode of Star Trek to air on NBC.
Hmmm, since salt vampires are mainly after salt to feed on, shouldn't providing them with easy access to salt keep them away from settlements? Just put out a bunch of salt licks somewhere for them to feed on. Also, throwing chunks of rock salt at one might work to distract it . . .
The Salt Vampires, maybe with their genetic modifications, they were designed to specifically target Romulans, not only for the salt, but for something else in them. A replicator might not do the trick if this were the case.
Maybe we can just replicate dead Romulan bodies in a disturbing kind of farm, and dump them from orbit around the settlements to distract the salt vampires, but that's a bit unethical for Trek...
And this was a really cool mission. Like the others, I think a boss fight would be cool, but not necessary. This is some darn fine work, and the salt vampire models look great.
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Rombies. We have to call them rombies.
I suppose my vision was a bit over the top :P
But maybe it's not just the blood they'd want. Vulcans have their mental thing-a-ma-bobbers, didn't the Romulans get a bit of that? Maybe they feed off of that, even if the mental stuff is really weak in Romulans.
I do hear from time to time when wanting to do ground combat that its star trek not ground trek. The problem is these people saying this are not true fans because they know especially because of costs it made to make the episodes and movies initially making away team video was easier and less costly than visual effects. So being ground combat and away teams is much more than 50% of what Trek lore is involved people should also get involved in ground combat which takes a lot less gear but requires more tactics but is fun nonetheless.
Exactly, the spirit of Star Trek was to explore planets, not to zoom by them in a spaceship without a second thought. Otherwise, the journey to the heavens had no point.
I agree with this. Rename it The Mine Trap
It looks liek fun, and my guess is the Rombies are in fact Copper Vampires.
Yes, I saw that. You were replying to his post, and I was replying to your post. You didnt think that your post was somehow the end of the conversation that no one else could reply to did you? If so, welcome to the internet
I am a little surprised to find "Star Trek" fans who do not know about "Star Trek" and science fiction history.
I bet you don't know how "Transformers: The Movie" (1986) is connected to "War of the Worlds" (1938) and "Star Trek" (1960s).
Sorry, I expected something a bit more than resurrecting 'campy' creatures like vampires and zombies. At least Morlocks were outright cannibals (farming humanoids for food), a bit different than creatures wandering the universe and removing nutrients/organs from chance encounters with other creatures.
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Where is your imagination? "Star Trek" is all about going beyond the limitations of humanity. Many of "Star Trek's" episodes cover talking dogs, fish, cats, lizards, etc... What is the difference between a floating jelly fish and a floating Abraham Lincoln?
*shrugs*
Science-fiction begins with science facts, and then it stretches them into new realms of 'possibilities'.
If you watch science-fiction movies created prior to 2000s, you will find that writers had a better grasp on experimenting with new ideas. Current Hollywood is afraid to do new things, so they are stuck on remakes and reboots.
Cryptic is bringing in those neat concepts, which belonged to "Star Trek" history. As long as they keep them true to form, I have absolutely no problem with the species being added.
I think a few people here need to take off their "I'm an elite, discerning gamer because I bash everything" beer goggles and appreciate things for what they are.
...But since these creatures are original Trek canon I'll remove my objection to them. I'm still laughing at them tho.
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It's a shame for those who care that they couldnt get it in before halloween.
Unless there is some kind of world beating drop exclusive to the horrid instance, I'm sure I'll never play it.
I say bring on the vampires
It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
Eight minute documentary on the episode "The Man Trap".
Link: "The Man Trap": Spock Vs Professor Crater
Man, its the STO forums. They could add voice over from real actors of the shows and folks would stil be angry that either "too much money was spent on it" or they don't like to hear picard say "make it so" so often and it gets on their nerves.
Folks will always complain. The best you can do is say you like something and ignore the folks who don't like it. Someone saying they like something cancels out about 10 folks saying they hate it.
Makes me laugh too lol.
EDIT: Also, space vamps ftw! \o/
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This however, is a reference to a ST creature. Which =/= lame, quite the opposite.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
So yeah, complaining about adding zombies is WAY past that point.
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However since the salt vampire was killed doesnt mean it was in fact extinct. There has been so much resetting of the time line that the salt vampires could have survived as a race. And there is also genetic modifications that could have been made to make romulan blood taste better to them (Virus's etc)
Also to the person who decided it would be good for a new enemy I congratulate my only criticism is this wasn't released on holodeck for Haloween
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