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If this game didnt hav the startrek licence would u still b playing it?
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If it were not for those two things i would have ditched this game long ago........not that i play it much now anyway....a few times each month is as much as i can take of it these days.
There are fun things to do in this game that I enjoy, regardless of the IP. If CBS pulled the IP and they had to change the name and re-skin all the ships etc.. it would still be the same game with the same fun things to do - it would just look different to when it does now (to call a rose by any other name, would it smell as sweet? - goes something like that anyway).
I dislike "grind", I cannot explain why it never bothered me with the current STFs, perhaps because they are on my fun list and I enjoy them... yet the fleet mark events annoy me (go figure). For me personally, it is all the extra "grind" they are adding to the game is causing me to log in less and less.
I expect to "earn" my rewards, I expect things to be a challenge, but in true PWE style, on a scale of 1 to 10 on the "grind-o-meter", they go and set it to 30 and expect us to keep throwing money at the game to reduce it back down to 10... which, in its self is not that bad until you start to add things like time gated content or restrictions on how often you can do something.
Example, my fleet can do all 3 space STFs (we do not do ground, we prefer space) in about 25 - 35 minutes depending on how focused we are. That leaves us wasting 25 minutes every hour while we wait to go again. So not only do we have the "grind" of collecting EDCs but are slowed even more by a timer that has not place being there to start with (this is on normal, not elite btw). I can do the slog through to save EDCs but I do not see why I need a timer as well as a "grind"
And since PWE has been about, more and more "grind" with timers has been brought in to the game.
So, in answer, ST or not I'd have still bought my LTS at the start of the games life due to it being fun.... now however, even the IP is not longer enough.
In face I'm slowly moving over to another game (no ST IP involved) that brings me closer to the ST IP universe (see my sig).
I will however still login to use my stip end... I do like shopping lol
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Assumed it where sucessful anyway, i think i would play it much more frequently and i think i would have much more fun while playing it. I wouldn't be so frustrated about it because cryptics "interpretation" of Star Trek is just horribly wrong IMHO.
So yes, i would play it even more if it where not a Star Trek game.
That said, if it weren't saddled with a LOT of baggage from the Star Trek IP (including fans who want 'non-violent' play; or threadnaughts of minor and miniscule ship model errors because ship X has a different set of windows then in my favorite screencap from episode Y...
It would probably not be the same game that we have because it's trying hard to stay in the boundaries of the Star Trek IP.
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Its just a gut feeling of mine but really I think the IP (CBS) is holding this game back.
Most likely, they would have gone for the H.P. Lovecraft/Buffy-ish horror MMO they'd be investigating. And if they did sci-fi, I think it would have been different.
A lot of the things that don't work here are BECAUSE it's Trek. Y'Know, where they tried to compromise between Star Trek and other sci-fi IPs. On one hand, if it was more Trek, yes, it would be better. But if it was totally un-Trek and not a weird halfway compromise, it would also be better.
I imagine an Cryptic internally designed sci-fi MMO would have been more Buzz Lightyear versus Starship Troopers versus Predator. And that would be cool. And where STO goes wrong sometimes is when you see these weird halfway compromises between that and Trek, like they'd rather be working with an original IP.
im only here cus its star trek im still here cus its star trek.
elite isnt hard at all u get very poor rewards for completing stuff and now its a grindfest if u want to have anything of worth. not to mention the epsiodes have dryed up and not much content or equal factions the kdf are treated like the ginger kid no one wants to know.
like my mate that ive been playing wow with since vanila he quit after a few lvl's
Only reason I tried it to begin with, is the Trek Banner.
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The only reason this trash of a game is even still running is its IP.
The only reason I am still around is the insane amount of money I invested in what I thought was a promising Star Trek MMO, my friends, and the projects that I am assisting my fleet with.
It's a below average arcade shooter with a Trek skin, taxed with a heavy money grinding scheme.
If it weren't "Star Trek" I wouldn't have been here well before it launched, I wouldn't have beta tested it, I wouldn't have bought CO and a 6 month CO sub just so I could have the chance to beta test it, I wouldn't have put down cash on a lifer sub the day it was available and I wouldn't have made all those c-store purchases that I'm still making to this very day.
OP, care to give us your answer to your question?
It is obvious(to me) that anyone who feels the need to ask other people that question would probably answer "no" themselves. It isnt the kind of thing that someone who is really happy with the game thinks about.
So I probably wouldn't play it anymore. But having said that, in my time online I have made a lot of good friends. Fleet mates.
I look forward to interacting with them when I log in.
So if they stayed I would probably stay too. But I get the feeling most people would just move on to something else. Or if another company got the ip and made a game, we would all move to that.
After all, we are Trekkies at heart and that's why we are here.
We put up with the game even if we hate what devs might be doing to it.
That They had a Very Large Portion of the player base that would stick with Them, pretty much no matter what They did...
I just hope in the Future, They don't 'abuse' the Loyalty those of us that are still here...,
... as much as They did back then.
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