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Just as the Title says, STO Shuts down my computer after a few minuts in earth space dock or going in to a fleet action. Then to be real irritating just at random any other time. It's not my videa card, I just replaced it, same issues.
I was monitoring the voltages and tempatures last time it happened, and nothing dropped or spiked right before it shut off.
The strangest part it that I get no sort of error or warning. One second I'll be in game, the next I'll be staring at a blank screen and the computer will be off.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Quite a few issues can cause this; inadequate power supply, over heating, bad firmware & drivers etc.

    It seems like your system may be over heating but without more detail there isn’t much I can say.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Quite a few issues can cause this; inadequate power supply, over heating, bad firmware & drivers etc.

    It seems like your system may be over heating but without more detail there isn’t much I can say.

    Agreed. One of the best ways to test this is to try STO out on another computer under your login. Log into the game, move about, see if you can stay online and play. If you can, then I'd look into what the quoted poster said above me. Another thing you'll want to do is: As you enter the game, glance at the time and note it. When you get the boot, look at the clock again. The point of this exercise is to determine if it's happening at a set interval, like every ten minutes or so. This too will help immensely in troubleshooting your issue. You may have to do this test a few times before you pinpoint any specific time or at the very least you can determine if it's random or not. Either way, it'll help a great deal to know if it's based on a specific time or not as something like this is typically related to software conflicts or bad drivers that are called into usage at a specific time.

    Good hunting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    ok, like I saidin my first post, it's not over heating, the temps never get nearly hot enough for that, it's not underpowered, the voltages hold steady. It is random, but happens most often in ESD and in Fleet actions.
    I just replaced the video card, still having the same issue. I just used driver sweeper to tottaly remove any traces of old video drivers, still shutting down on me. The real problem is I get no error messages or BSOD. It just turns off like some one pulled the plug, then starts back up.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    LordSpyder wrote: »
    ok, like I saidin my first post, it's not over heating, the temps never get nearly hot enough for that, it's not underpowered, the voltages hold steady. It is random, but happens most often in ESD and in Fleet actions.
    I just replaced the video card, still having the same issue. I just used driver sweeper to tottaly remove any traces of old video drivers, still shutting down on me. The real problem is I get no error messages or BSOD. It just turns off like some one pulled the plug, then starts back up.

    You can actually prevent the computer from auto-restarting on a critical system crash. If you have Windows 7, do the following.

    1. Right click Computer in your Start menu, and select "Properties"

    2. On the right side, click "Advanced System Settings"

    3. Another window will pop up. Select "Advanced" and look at the third box "Startup and Recovery"

    4.Click the "Options" button in that box, and uncheck the box that says "Automatically restart."

    You may not actually be seeing the BSOD because it restarts so quickly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    You can actually prevent the computer from auto-restarting on a critical system crash. If you have Windows 7, do the following.

    1. Right click Computer in your Start menu, and select "Properties"

    2. On the right side, click "Advanced System Settings"

    3. Another window will pop up. Select "Advanced" and look at the third box "Startup and Recovery"

    4.Click the "Options" button in that box, and uncheck the box that says "Automatically restart."

    You may not actually be seeing the BSOD because it restarts so quickly.

    tried that, and tried the one in BIOS. Still shuts off.
    I uninstalled STO and Reinstalled it. This has mad the problem worse. Now my computer turns off at the loading page or if I'm luckey enough to get past it when I try to change the resolution to a playable setting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I never said that the above would stop the computer from shutting off--merely that the above would stop the computer from automatically restarting, thereby actually being able to read the error code that is causing the critical stop. (Critical stop, btw, being a more tech-oriented term for BSOD).

    There's a driver crashing somewhere, though...whether STO is causing the crash, though, or something else remains to be seen. I'd suggest a support ticket with dxdiag logs attached so that the Tech Support guys can take a look at some key system information and come up with something.

    You also mentioned a new video card in one of your posts--that (or the driver thereof, which may not be playing nice with STO) may also be causing the issue. Again, a dxdiag log would be most helpful for Tech Support.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I never said that the above would stop the computer from shutting off--merely that the above would stop the computer from automatically restarting, thereby actually being able to read the error code that is causing the critical stop. (Critical stop, btw, being a more tech-oriented term for BSOD).

    There's a driver crashing somewhere, though...whether STO is causing the crash, though, or something else remains to be seen. I'd suggest a support ticket with dxdiag logs attached so that the Tech Support guys can take a look at some key system information and come up with something.

    You also mentioned a new video card in one of your posts--that (or the driver thereof, which may not be playing nice with STO) may also be causing the issue. Again, a dxdiag log would be most helpful for Tech Support.

    Yup, yup and yup. After going through this again, it's starting to sound like a conflict of some kind. Since the computer can allegedly perform "fine" until you log into STO, I'm going with the whole display driver conflict thingy =P Course that's just a guess at the point as the symptoms just don't jive. Which means I'm suspecting there's something else that the OP isn't mentioning, didn't bother to mention or didn't think to mention it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    You're not alone. I started having this issue a few days ago. I will be playing for anywhere from 5-10 minutes, then it shuts down. It only started happening after the updates on the 14th. I know it's not my computer overheating or anything, because I play more graphics-intensive games than STO.
  • ferumbra8ferumbra8 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I have the same problems, 5-15 minutes, then restart. I dont know how to fix card. Also I remember playing for the first time for few hours, no problem at all. Then i put bigger resolution ingame, and all problems started. Now I will try to lower back to where it was. Also I need to run game as administrator if I want to play.

    And now it is fine again.
  • adamthephantomadamthephantom Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I think this problem is wide spread.


    Ever since the last update / patch, mine too has started rebooting the computer. Never did before, I'll be ingame one minute and the next a blank screen, a quick beep and its doing the ram test and bio checks before it boots back into windows 7.

    I'm glad that it isn't just me, but similarly share the frustration, especially when i was a couple of phaser shots away from completing the daily borg invasion!


    Do you know if the devs are going to update again anytime soon? Or if theres a way to reverse updates?


    Ad'
  • bagossebagosse Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Installed the game yesterday and doing the same, restarting after 5 to 10 min max. And i play a lot of heaviere games with i res no probleme there... :mad:
  • umrathamaumrathama Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    It just sounds like to me, that your CPU's are overheating/not transferring heat properly. The fact that it was a resent patch only happens to be a coincidence.

    Perhaps more information can be provided to the community/Dev's instead of making a general observation.

    Not all graphics are created equal.
  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    umrathama wrote: »
    It just sounds like to me, that your CPU's are overheating/not transferring heat properly. The fact that it was a resent patch only happens to be a coincidence.

    Perhaps more information can be provided to the community/Dev's instead of making a general observation.

    Not all graphics are created equal.

    If you take the time to read carefully what the man wrote, he said twice that he has monitored temperatures, and it's not a temp issue.
  • uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I used to have this issue too, and not just with STO, with everything.. I finally tracked it down to a failing power supply. I watched the temperature all the time. Motherboard never overheated, graphics card didn't overheat, the only signs I had was random restarts, or hardware failure. After replacing the power supply, everything works perfectly again.

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  • raveaeshmaraveaeshma Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I installed the game today and I'm having the same issue. It shut down twice, didn't restart. The problem isn't with the the cpu, nor with it over heating, nor the power supply. (All those things are fine and I'm sitting in a well conditioned environment.) I can run DC universe online just fine and have never had this issue. I didn't even have browsers open, just the game itself. My computer is more than able to handle it. If this is an issue with a lot of users, why hasn't this been properly brought to someone's attention? It kind of puts new users off if a problem like this persists.
  • manlyyamsmanlyyams Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I have also been having this problem, since Season 6 went live. It was only occasionally at first, at which point I began to monitor temperatures and check my power supply, the first two obvious causes of sudden computer shutdown. It was neither of these things, so I chalked it up to faulty software. Sometimes that happens with computer gaming. However, since the last patch, it's been happening much more frequently. Again, not a heat or a power supply issue.

    So I think the devs should look into this. I've spent a lot of time on this game, and I'd prefer not to have to stop playing for fear of damage to my computer in any way.
  • slick97477slick97477 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well honestly probably isnt there power supplies causing the issue or it would be on any graphic intense game not just STO. STO being the only game crashing leads me to believe it is a hardware issue with STO itself having a conflict with something in the system setup. Earlier all the people posted it only happens with STO, if the PS was failing it would be far more widespread than just STO. Try updating all your drivers. After the latest patch mine was doing the same thing. I updated my video drivers and havent had a issue again.
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  • kirschtkirscht Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I've started having this problem lately. The first few weeks I played I would play for a couple hours with no problems. Then I had one BSoD (which scared me thoroughly, until I read other threads with people having the same problem and so I realize now it is not necessarily equivalent to the apocolypse). But then after the maintaince Nov 2(?), 2012 it happens frequently. I thought it might be a heating issue, but it just happened only a few minutes into play. And I hadn't done anything except look through my duty roster. Machine was still cold.
  • tfomegatfomega Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Monitoring temperatures while the game is running or from within the BIOS? Within the BIOS is misleading unless you are performing hardware diagnostics and taxing the hardware resources.

    Go into the troubleshooting section of the game and turn down your settings to see if you can reproduce the error. Turn everything down to the lowest settings.

    If it still occurs and if, as you stated, it is not a temperature issue, then you have a software issue and I would recommend reinstalling the OS and replacing all your drivers with the up-to-date versions. You may wish to try driver updates first to see if that resolves the problem. Try turning the dump file on so you can collect the possible bluescreen error which may indicate a driver issue. Beyond that reinstall a clean OS with updated drivers

    If it doesn't occur then it may be that your video card drivers do not know how to process the game commands. May take a driver update only and possibly, you may be using a card that cryptic doesn't support. You might also try using directx 9 instead of directx11 (BETA) in the game's controls if your video driver doesn't fully support directx 11

    After all that and you have eliminated software as the culprit...

    Go buy yourself a $5 can of compressed air (or use an air compressor that you blow up your car tires with) and remove all the dust and TRIBBLE from inside your computer.. get the power supply, get the fans on your GPU and CPU and basically get all the layers of "insulation" (i.e. dust) off your components that is keeping them warmer than they should.

    Make sure your computer has at least 1 inch of space behind it. It is also recommended that you keep your computer on the ground rather than a desk as hot air rises and it is warmer in the room on top of the desk. If your computer is stored in a cabinet portion of your desk with a closed door, open the door.

    Make sure all of your fans are working. Check your computer BIOS and make sure that the RPMs are where they should be. If your fans are not spinning very fast or are making a weird sound like they need to be lubricated, replace them. Don't try to lubricate them yourself as it is just better to replace them.

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  • cuchircuchir Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So since I can't post my own topic, figured I'd attach it to this one.

    My computer is shutting down as well when I load STO. I'm fully patched with STO and all of my drivers and such. IT IS NOT A TEMPERATURE ISSUE. If anyone suggests it is temperature I'll slap them silly. My computer does it whether it is just on, been on for awhile, whatever. My computer runs anything else fine, including LOTRO, TOR, and it even ran STO just fine for ages pre F2P but I decided I wanted to come back for F2P and reinstalled from Steam and the only hardware change from then till now is a GPU upgrade.

    I'm about ready to just give it up as it's just driving me nuts that I'm having this kind of issue.

    Again, my machine IS NOT overheating, just trust me on this. I'm completely updated on all drivers, OS, the game, etc. Again, right after I hit engage on the launcher, I'll see the cryptic full screen loading thingy and the bar going across, then system shuts off.

    I have 2 monitors and I don't know if that has any affect on it but if I have to disconnect it or something like that to play now, then I'm done with STO for good. (and yes, I tried with just one plugged in, and no difference)

    Thanks for any and all help. And if this is able to be split into a new thread, I'd appreciate it thanks!
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It's a power issue. I guaran-sodding-tee you that it is a power issue. Might be a loose cable or it might be a dud psu, but it's a power issue if it isn't a heat issue.

    Cheap psu?
    I need a beer.

  • th3bu1ittth3bu1itt Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    just a shot in the dark but did you disable the onboard video card on your motherboard when you installed your video card? maybe STO is having a PCI-E conflict between the two video adapters?
  • cuchircuchir Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It's a power issue. I guaran-sodding-tee you that it is a power issue. Might be a loose cable or it might be a dud psu, but it's a power issue if it isn't a heat issue.

    Cheap psu?

    If it was a power issue, why then does nothing else shut off my system. I actually decided to stress my system so I ran LOTRO and TOR at the same time.... system was fine. The power supply is more than enough. And again, I used to run STO with this same system fine.
    th3bu1itt wrote: »
    just a shot in the dark but did you disable the onboard video card on your motherboard when you installed your video card? maybe STO is having a PCI-E conflict between the two video adapters?

    No on-board video on the card. nVidia 680i LT SLI.

    Could there be an odd hold-over setting from my old video card that is some kind of preference that is doing it? I have done uninstalls and reinstalls since then, but the rest of the data on my comp has stayed the same. Not sure where that data would be though.
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Afaik neither LOTRO or TOR stress the CPU as much as STO.
    I need a beer.

  • cuchircuchir Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Afaik neither LOTRO or TOR stress the CPU as much as STO.


    Well I also have a CPU gauge going and it's not being hard pressed by STO at that point at all. And I've done much worse to this comp CPU-wise and still it's handled it.

    Again, I've run STO before (pre F2P) just fine. It's just since I've tried to come back that I've had this issue.
  • texastrekkietexastrekkie Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I don't know why everyone NOT having a problem wants to scream "Power issue"

    My husband has just installed the game and keeps getting BSOD.

    I have been running the game for a month and just this past week started getting the "display driver" error message.

    Can someone who knows something besides "power issue" please answer? Someone from the game's tech dept maybe? I have looked in several threads and have yet to see an official tech answer from someone on the tech team.

    Thank you
  • th3xr34p3rth3xr34p3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I don't know why everyone NOT having a problem wants to scream "Power issue"

    My husband has just installed the game and keeps getting BSOD.

    I have been running the game for a month and just this past week started getting the "display driver" error message.

    Can someone who knows something besides "power issue" please answer? Someone from the game's tech dept maybe? I have looked in several threads and have yet to see an official tech answer from someone on the tech team.

    Thank you

    To help diagnose this we need more than just BSOD and Display Driver.. Please use BlueScreenView (how to use it here)and post what the exact error was, for the display driver go into event viewer and please post the details of the message associated with it.
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  • texastrekkietexastrekkie Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    th3xr34p3r wrote: »
    To help diagnose this we need more than just BSOD and Display Driver.. Please use BlueScreenView (how to use it here)and post what the exact error was, for the display driver go into event viewer and please post the details of the message associated with it.
    Thank you for responding. My apologies. I am not a techie person so I thought that having the same problem as so many others would be enough. I am working on getting this info to you. The email I received from support was not helpful :(

    Hopefully we can get this working. :)

    P.S. Thank you for not saying it's a power issue :P
  • th3xr34p3rth3xr34p3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Thank you for responding. My apologies. I am not a techie person so I thought that having the same problem as so many others would be enough. I am working on getting this info to you. The email I received from support was not helpful :(

    Hopefully we can get this working. :)

    P.S. Thank you for not saying it's a power issue :P

    I'm not excluding it as a possible cause in the case of sto on the system as its a variable but having more info on the system will help to diagnose the issues further. ;)
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  • patientnr0patientnr0 Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    if anybody has BSOD problems using an nvidia-card, try DOWNGRADING your driver to a 304-Version.
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