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Mirror Universe ships

kronkstomperkronkstomper Member Posts: 4 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I got the mirror KDF battle cruiser and was excited and disapointed as well.
There is nothing about the ship that makes it stand out as from the Mirror universe.
You could have at least made it so it had a universal counsole or special weapon and for
the Federation the ability for them to use cannons.

I like the ship and will use it but sigh it wont pop like a galador or frengi or even the
Jem'hadar any way you could at least give us an option of giving them a Mirror ship only
paint job.
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  • cthulhuslawyercthulhuslawyer Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I know its kinda meh....
  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Dont forget the terran ships are basically consolation prizes to make lock boxes a bit better, its just a bit sad that the terran ships are essentially 100zen point Rear Admiral ships
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  • drasketodrasketo Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    elandarksky wrote: »
    Dont forget the terran ships are basically consolation prizes to make lock boxes a bit better, its just a bit sad that the terran ships are essentially 100zen point Rear Admiral ships

    Make that 125 Zen.
  • stoggyreturnsstoggyreturns Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The mirror ships are nothing more then a skin. STO devs embarrassed themselves again. They make ships that say they have a tactical advantage but they are identical to the lower admiral free ships short they were to busy to be bothered with the fact they swapped the crew capacity between star cruiser and assault cruiser. Everyday that goes on they compound insults to our intelligence with lies and double speak. I wouldnt invest in this game if it came with free stock in apple.
  • sdkraustsdkraust Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    All they did was swap star and assault cruiser's skins and called them Terran.
  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sdkraust wrote: »
    All they did was swap star and assault cruiser's skins and called them Terran.

    Worked out for me because I wanted an Assault Crusier, and all i had to do was sell a handful of Doffs instead of spending my Dil. :D

    It looks the same as my Star Cruiser with yellow bits, but it was cheap.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Do you have to use the Mirrorverse skins or can you use the regular ones as well? (I hate that yellow tint). And if you wanted an extra cruiser so you could spend your RA token on an escort or sci ship, getting an extra ship for a million EC instead of dilithium is a pretty good deal.
  • eiledoneiledon Member Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    i havent checked but i thought the mirror ships also had different boff arrangements from their regular universe versions..
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  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    Do you have to use the Mirrorverse skins or can you use the regular ones as well? (I hate that yellow tint). And if you wanted an extra cruiser so you could spend your RA token on an escort or sci ship, getting an extra ship for a million EC instead of dilithium is a pretty good deal.

    You can over-ride the MU skin -- it's an optional extra "material".

    I left mine on, but I'm also using the Borg gear with visuals enabled.

    I paid 2M ec for mine, but the price might drop more. I figured it was the price of a key anyways, so it just cut out the gambling.

    eiledon wrote: »
    i havent checked but i thought the mirror ships also had different boff arrangements from their regular universe versions..

    Nope, they're pretty much bog-standard. Except the crew numbers are switched:

    SC: 1000 crew, AC: 800 Crew.

    MU AC: 1000 crew, MU SC: 800 Crew
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  • eiledoneiledon Member Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    beezle23 wrote: »
    Nope, they're pretty much bog-standard. Except the crew numbers are switched:

    SC: 1000 crew, AC: 800 Crew.

    MU AC: 1000 crew, MU SC: 800 Crew

    From Dev Blog on Tholian Lockboxes:

    "These unique Star Cruiser (Fed), Assault Cruiser (Fed) and Vor?cha Battle Cruiser (KDF) variants will offer different bridge officer slotting and console slotting than their ?Prime Universe? counterparts, as well as offering unique visuals not otherwise available for player ships."

    I had a look and the Vor'Cha retrofit has the same console slots (4eng, 3tac, 2sci) as the MU Vo'cha battle cruiser. Same hull (36K) and same crew (1500).

    But Retrofit has Cmdr & LtCmdr Eng, Lt Sci, Lt and Ens Tac Boffs, where the MU version has Cmdr & LtCmdr Eng, Lt and Ens Sci, Lt Tac Boffs.

    So they got part of it right for KDF anyway... although i would have liked to have seen a 3,3,3 console slotting arrangement..
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  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    eiledon wrote: »
    From Dev Blog on Tholian Lockboxes:

    "These unique Star Cruiser (Fed), Assault Cruiser (Fed) and Vor?cha Battle Cruiser (KDF) variants will offer different bridge officer slotting and console slotting than their ?Prime Universe? counterparts, as well as offering unique visuals not otherwise available for player ships."

    I had a look and the Vor'Cha retrofit has the same console slots (4eng, 3tac, 2sci) as the MU Vo'cha battle cruiser. Same hull (36K) and same crew (1500).

    But Retrofit has Cmdr & LtCmdr Eng, Lt Sci, Lt and Ens Tac Boffs, where the MU version has Cmdr & LtCmdr Eng, Lt and Ens Sci, Lt Tac Boffs.

    So they got part of it right for KDF anyway... although i would have liked to have seen a 3,3,3 console slotting arrangement..


    Just to make sure I'm not missing something:

    MUAC:

    TAC = Ens, Lt
    Eng = LtC, Com
    Sci = Lt

    Consoles: 4xEng, 2xSci, 3xTac

    As near as I can tell it looks just like the regular AC slot as far as consoles and Boffs go.
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  • eiledoneiledon Member Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I have edited and color coded boffs, and bolded and underlined differences between retrofit and MU battlecruiser Vorchas

    but a picture is better than words.. Retrofit on the left, my Mirror Vorcha on the right
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  • grunt6grunt6 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I love you can now make your assault cruiser look like the mirror universe counterpart just wish the iss prefix or Terran empire symbol. Does anyone know if you can make the vorcha cruiser look like the mirror version?
  • natthaannatthaan Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I got both ships for 400k ec i only want them to have the ISS on the not USS
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Yes. I believe the swap an LT and an ENS slot between TAC and SCI boffs. This is because they reversed the ships and their appearances. Star Cruiser really looks like the Assault Cruiser.

    So if you look at it that way, compared to the ships they RESEMEBLE, there is a minor boff difference.
  • xariamaxariama Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    They could have at least:

    A: given them an ISS designation.

    B: given them the purple engines normally, instead of having to use the Jem'Hadar shields to get the same effect.

    That would have been enough to satisfy a lot of people, I think. (I could be wrong, though.)
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  • cusashorncusashorn Member Posts: 461
    edited August 2012
    *sigh* not this debate again.

    YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AN I.S.S. DESIGNATION BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL TECHNICALLY STARFLEET OFFICERS. YOU DO NOT WORK OR REPRESENT THE TERRAN EMPIRE AND YOU NEVER WILL!


    These are Terran Empire-designed ships stolen and refitted for Starfleet use.


    After World War 2 ended, the United States Navy acquired a few ships from the German Navy and kept them in service. This did not mean that the personnel on those ships suddenly represented or worked for TRIBBLE Germany. It just meant that they slapped a "U.S.S." in front of the ship's original name.
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  • matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
    edited August 2012
    natthaan wrote: »
    I got both ships for 400k ec i only want them to have the ISS on the not USS

    WOW! 400k? dude.. i bought mine for 20k each and there were dozens of them listed that price.


    talk about a rip off....
  • flekhflekh Member Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    matteo716maikai wrote: »
    WOW! 400k? dude.. i bought mine for 20k each and there were dozens of them listed that price.


    talk about a rip off....

    C'mon, when the Tholian Lockboxes started, the MU ships were listed at more than a million EC. When I bought the MAC my Eng is flying, they were still 700k, and I'm really not regretting spending that - it allowed me to pick up a RSV for my RA token and saved me 120k dil, that was totally worth it.

    And the MAC really is a very good ship, it's better than both the normal Assault Cruiser (+200 crew), and a lot better than a Star Cruiser (better inertia and the BOff layout is better suited towards an Eng, as you need the tac slots to tank).

    Both the Mirror Universe Assault Cruiser and the Vor'cha are really worth the money unless you're already owning a better cruiser, and I'd advise every newbie to this game to pick one up just in case - if only to be able to spent their RA/BG token on an Escort/Raptor/BoP.
    A bit of versatility never hurts, and this is a very cheap way to get there. ;)
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  • cusashorncusashorn Member Posts: 461
    edited August 2012
    The prices for the Mirror ships was no cheaper than 350K only 3 days ago. If you got yours for 20K, you got lucky. Were the other ships also listed at 20K at the time?
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  • nilecipellinilecipelli Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Yeah, they're listed at 600-700k now on the Exchange, to be honest I don't really mind as I paid 500k for mine and considering that's cheaper than buying a key and the Tholian LB has been discontinued, it's not too bad a price.

    I say that you should buy them quick while you can, even if you're not the rank, I doubt you'll get them a lot cheaper later on and if you change your mind later, you could probably make a bit more than you spent back anyway.
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  • captainbradycaptainbrady Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I bought the mirror ships only because they were dirt cheap and my fleet is Terran themed. By dirt cheap I mean less than 200k each. However there is nothing special about it. Changing the specs on each ship so that an assault cruiser looks like a star cruiser...ohh I'm mirror derp derp derp. Hey devs, have you ever actually seen a Star Trek episode? Seriously, the mirror enterprise wasn't some sort of reversal or kirks ship, just used for different purposes :P. Oh where's the Terran Empire symbol? Your lame story telling suggests the empire came back, and you killed Smiley O'Brian for no reason whatsoever. So where is the Terran Empire symbol? On the bridge? No. On the ship? No Seriously, I don't think the devs have ever actually watched Star Trek. I suggest you devs have a Star Trek watching festival so you can better develop your products to appeal to your customers.
  • booa11booa11 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    captainbrady wrote: »
    I bought the mirror ships only because they were dirt cheap and my fleet is Terran themed. By dirt cheap I mean less than 200k each. However there is nothing special about it. Changing the specs on each ship so that an assault cruiser looks like a star cruiser...ohh I'm mirror derp derp derp. Hey devs, have you ever actually seen a Star Trek episode? Seriously, the mirror enterprise wasn't some sort of reversal or kirks ship, just used for different purposes :P. Oh where's the Terran Empire symbol? Your lame story telling suggests the empire came back, and you killed Smiley O'Brian for no reason whatsoever. So where is the Terran Empire symbol? On the bridge? No. On the ship? No Seriously, I don't think the devs have ever actually watched Star Trek. I suggest you devs have a Star Trek watching festival so you can better develop your products to appeal to your customers.

    didnt know about this mirror assault cruiser with the star cruiser skin
    this would be perfect for me as i absolutely love the look of the thing
    but i am a tac cruiser guy
    and want the extra tac officer slot

    best of both worlds as they say

    so ,how do i buy one?
  • shadowfirefly00shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 1,026 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well, the fact of their being so cheap makes them great for trying out new things. For instance, I recently picked up an advanced escort and have been having fun with it. Granted, I had to hit the exchange for a pair of appropriate dual cannons, but EC's easy to recoup...
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    edited December 2013
    At various times, I have owned and used all the MU ships. I like them. They are a pleasant variant on the primes. But this is all they are, a variant. Not Godship versions of our favorite ships.

    Up until I bought the Mogh, my Klink Sci was still flying a MU Vor'cha which he had been in for nearly a year. I may very well go back to it at some point.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    booa11 wrote: »
    so ,how do i buy one?

    For starters, you might try asking in a thread that hasn't been dead for over a year. :P
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