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  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I stopped reading the second the statement was made that they wanted both the romulan and borg faction in the game. considering its been said repeatedly that there will be no such borg faction, and given that its not possible to implement one in a practical manner, it makes me wonder why this was said at all.
    Relax! We actually have a pretty good idea of what we are already

    yes, I would hope you do know what you're doing at the moment. on that note you may want to take a second look at this sentence.
    as much fun as this poll is, it is only representative of a small portion of our user base

    here we go with the 'minority' TRIBBLE again. if this is true why even bother with the poll?
    There are many more players who will never vote on this poll

    then its a waste of time
    We take all of that into account as well as the huge amount of data we have on the back end when prioritizing our business

    I doubt that
    Not to say that this poll is meaningless, it does help us confirm our internal priority order

    you just said it was meaningless. if it doesn't represent the community as a whole then it is by definition meaningless because its results are not valid
    but it is not like this poll is dictating the master schedule. It is you voicing your concern over what is need most so we can ensure we're on the same page. So far, the voting is almost entirely what I expected (with the exception of Exploration)

    ...what?
    KDF has been getting better

    in what way is that exactly?
    About the Wells class, it's simple: the Wells class ship we get is a REPLICA of the ship. It's built with current technology, has current weapons and all that stuff, and so on and so forth.

    Because it's built with current technology, it will have virtually NONE of the timeship's abilities. But it will look like the ship, and will probably have one time-based power, but won't remotely act like the timeship.

    you do know that not a word of that actually makes any sense, right?
    enough with the bloody klingons...almost 3 years now weve been waiting for our faction to even get a darn ship. We won the poll the first time around by a huge margin..and I stake my life on it now...we will win this poll again...CRYPTIC...no more carrot chasing, give us our darn faction.

    what? there isn't going to be a full romulan faction. never. they don't even have the resources to do a klingon faction. add the romulans and resources get split even more than they already are. they couldn't handle the KDF with the current resources so they will not be able to handle a romulan faction either. it would be far worse off than the KDF ever was. it couldn't happen any other way, as the resources simply are not there
    race will be a purchasable faction (most likely)

    no it won't
    People say klingon faction is overlooked and barely played due to content reasons...I say its because alot of people dont want to play the faction.

    that is absurd. people do not play the KDF because there is nothing to play. when there is nothing to do you are not going to bother with it
    Have you read yesterdays Q&A on Raptr, if it was brought NOW to the game it would be a SUB-FACTION to the Klingons you are all so tired of

    considering how much the klingons and romulans hate eachother thats an odd choice
    Romulans do not deserve a lock box but a full pay option. We have stated for over a year now to just put us in at level 40, we want our planet, starbases, costumes and ships...we could care less for content

    no you could not care less for content. without content nobody will play it and nobody will bother with it at all. exactly the same as the KDF
    We are not to be held hostage due to the constant demands and questionable egg chicken debate about the kdf.

    wtf are you talking about
  • kilemorgankilemorgan Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Forget about KDF content, cut your losses, start fresh with a new faction, learn from your mistakes with the Klingons and make a great Faction....The True Empire, The True Bad guys of the Federation...The Romulans.

    I am one of those people who does not like to see things unfinished. I think the KDF needs to be finished.

    Two other things. If they leave the KDF as is then if there is a next faction it could get the same treatment. When I saw playable Romulan instead of Romulan faction it made the choice even easier.
  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Romulans, Romulans, Romulans.
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Pretty much it would be easier on Cryptic/PWE doing future factions with the mini leveling idea and choosing to be in one of the two factions we have now... rather than waiting for years to get to play playable romulans, dominion, borg, etc...

    A cool idea on how a borg one would work is liberated borg that used the hugh or 7 of 9 style creating their own mini collectives and using necromancer based mmorpg style to make more drones and such...

    It would be cool for dominion too if our starbases could do projects with jem hadar, vorta, and founders to have our own mini great links, and cloneing facilities for jem hadar and vorta :)
  • kilemorgankilemorgan Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    bunansa wrote: »
    I didnt, but I was aiming for federation members who went under the knife so to speak to look the part lol.....


    face of the enemy is probably one of my favorite tng episodes, that and the one where picard draws the smiley face in the warp core breach due to the temporal fluxuation the breached romulan quantum singularity drive had caused...makes you wonder what else we romulans dabble in lol...

    I understand, but I thought he did play another captain at one time. It might have been another actor or another race. It has been so long since I've seen the whole sets of series.
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    KDF content, anyone who says otherwise don't really have the best interests for the future of this game at heart. Romulans if released while the KDF is at it's current state would be a waste of the Dev's time.

    Once they can prove to us they can develop and sustain two factions equality without bias then the Romulans can become a reality.
    Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    KDF content, anyone who says otherwise don't really have the best interests for the future of this game at heart. Romulans if released while the KDF is at it's current state would be a waste of the Dev's time.

    Once they can prove to us they can develop and sustain two factions equality without bias then the Romulans can become a reality.

    Yeah the romulans would essentially become a new KDF... lacking content well.... lacking everything the KDF does TBH.

    With that idea of mini factions you would just have them join the KDF so they could share the same boat...
  • switchngcswitchngc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    syberghost wrote: »
    Better Exploration is going to help you retain users in between content updates. Even if people don't vote for that, making it more worthwhile will benefit the bottom line after the "new" wears off of each content release.

    I have a friend with a LTS to STO who never logs in to STO anymore (they have gone back to WoW as they would rather pay monthly for that game than play STO for free). The reason he left? STO has no Exploration, there is relatively no content as opposed to said other game (when they introduce an expansion they actually add A LOT, even though it may be over a year between them), and most importantly STO is nothing but grinding (especially for the Fleet Holdings). While all MMOs require grinding, at least with many of the good ones, you don't FEEL like you are grinding most of the time (while I don't have near the MMO Experience my friend does, we were actually discussing that today, and both of us have noticed that)
  • sollafsollaf Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Go Romulans, go romulans, go!
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  • poptrop1122poptrop1122 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    please try hard to introuduce roms very soon and by the way dan nice ask cryptic
  • mithril2098mithril2098 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    bunansa wrote: »
    I didnt, but I was aiming for federation members who went under the knife so to speak to look the part lol.....

    not counting worf..

    you had Sisko, Odo, and Chief O'Brien, in DS9:Apocalypse Rising.
    Neelix, janeway, and an unspecified number of other crew were cosmetically altered to look klingon during the Hirogen's occupation of Voyager, when they put the crew through holodeck scenarios.


    Jadzia never had cosmetic surgery to look klingon, but has sported KDF uniforms a few times.
    likewise B'elanna torres in VOY sported klingon outfits a few times.

    Col. west in ST-VI used a mask and costume to appear klingon as well.

    generally though, cosmetic surgery seems to have been more of a Cardassian infiltration thing, and used by the federation mainly to blend into primitive cultures. at least on screen. who knows how many Federation intelligence and section 31 agents have been disguised to look like other races?

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  • zigadeiczigadeic Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    bunansa wrote: »
    well no not everyone else we would have the only votes in this poll...

    But can I honestly ask whats that 25 dollar ship doing to improve the game? did it fix the pvp issues, did it add more content, give us new stfs?
    We might as well call it ship of the month ie flavor of the month every time a new ship hits the store its the new shiney toy...but its not doing anything tbh, except maybe adding to peoples obsession and compulsion to own every ship in the game no matter if its good or not.



    I can understand your point on it being a flavor thing, but lets be honest here in the Star Trek shows and movies there are tons of bloody ships out there and I dont mind feeding the beast my hard earned dollars to obtain said ships should I have to, but I dont think they should add romulans to the game as playable till KDF is well rounded enough to be a viable choice for people to play as finish the KDF then do with the romulans as u did with the feds give them a ton of content to keep people busy for a good long wile. The romulans deserve that at least after their planet got slagged right I just dont wanna see them end up like the KDF :P:P

    :mad:also i am aware of my typo's if u dont like it go breath vacuum:mad:
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    One of the major issues, witch keeps coming up again and again is the lack of missions.

    Have you considered expanding on the idea from "Frozen" (From Romulan FE), where different choices affect the outcome (Hence fight the remans or the roumlans)? Make a system that allows you to, over several missions see different possibilities on how your interaction is with the NPC's and the mission(s) as a whole. You'd then have to complete an entire branch of missions, before you could re-do them, and choose a different path.

    This might help a little as there is a real reason (apart from loot) to re-play missions.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • civilphilcivilphil Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    :mad: I do not think I could disagree with 1/2 of this statement any more if I tried:


    Q: (crittio) Will there be more playable races/factions in the future? Like Borg or Romulans?

    Dstahl: Yes. We would like to see both factions added. In my opinion, it is only a matter of time if STO continues to grow as it has been.



    It's the Borg half.

    Please explain to me how you will possibly explain the sudden presence of thousands of individuals running around, doing their own things, and yet be part of the Borg collective.

    Have you WATCHED Star Trek? Borg with individual personalities are rarer than the rarest jems. You can count the number we've seen in-canon (TV and Movies) on one hand.

    Honestly, if STO decided to create a Borg faction . . . it will destroy a large part of the love I have for the game. :(

    I cannot fathom how a Borg faction for players can exist without fundamentally altering the nature of the Borg. Imagine if STO decided to make a Vulcan faction that did wasn't logical, or didn't have green blood, or went completely war-like. There'd be a revolt!

    Please, please, please do NOT create a playable Borg faction.

    Please. :(







    please I beg you







    please

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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    One of the major issues, witch keeps coming up again and again is the lack of missions.

    Have you considered expanding on the idea from "Frozen" (From Romulan FE), where different choices affect the outcome (Hence fight the remans or the roumlans)? Make a system that allows you to, over several missions see different possibilities on how your interaction is with the NPC's and the mission(s) as a whole. You'd then have to complete an entire branch of missions, before you could re-do them, and choose a different path.

    This might help a little as there is a real reason (apart from loot) to re-play missions.
    Speaking of "Frozen", just before that in "Mine Enemy" on the KDF side, one of the talk options with Temek is that the mines are now ripe for conquest :) Very little forces, a lot of resources, and a workforce... and he did say he'd take this proposal to the Klingon High Command, saying we might even lead that charge.

    Well, what if we could? Another mini-mission, like "Alpha", where we actually do take over the mines.

    Sure the Romulans won't be happy, but they weren't doing very well under that Ferengi anyway (no surprise). With us, as long as they don't cause trouble, they can make their living much easier.
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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  • kirksfavoritesonkirksfavoriteson Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Looks like the Romulan Faction is winning the straw poll as I read this, which makes me sigh.

    Yes, Romulans in the game would be fun, but I'd rather see aspects of the existing game improved first,

    While I don't play KDF myself, it's openly acknowledged that the Klingon faction isn't fully formed or finished yet, when compared to Federation play.

    Adding a third faction too early would merely draw resources and development time away from aspects of the game which already need attention.

    Romulans? Yes. But not just yet.

    My opinion, anyway,

    KFS
  • wulfman2ndwulfman2nd Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Close call for me to decide between PVP improvment, KDF content and Romulan factions.
    I decided on PVP, as it is the core system to make multiple factions viable in teh end.

    So to my mind the order of development should be PVP content, KDF (from teh start, if missions scale to level this would also solve the addditional content for high level KDF characters) and than the Romulan faction.

    While crafting is also close to my hear as a system, the time to make it a good systemw as in preperation for the F2P. Now the above are more critical.
  • teklionbenrashateklionbenrasha Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Exciting stuff on all fronts. On a suggestions note, I particularly liked that the feature episodes were released weekly - it stopped me from flying through the whole series at once. If you did that for an extended arc in S7, that'd be great (especially now I'm at Level 50 so minimum level isn't an issue).
  • cptapollocptapollo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    first off since we have starbases u said the seeds are planted for a good faction war. (it could be fleet war 2 that would be nice).

    So addressing all aspects of making it happen is a must. from GAME BALANCE ( the one u totally shattered), to starting kdf from lv1, to new factions (romulans?), to new sectors (new places to explore), to new ways to grow (new content / episodes)

    Thus, achieving this goal places a tick on half of u'r surveys options.
    Instead f a flashy article about a new suit, and instead of burying yet another sci nerf in an obscure patch note try staying focused on fixing the dmg u caused and finishing one thing be4 jumping to next so mby they'll see the light of day?
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    kilemorgan wrote: »
    I am one of those people who does not like to see things unfinished. I think the KDF needs to be finished.

    Two other things. If they leave the KDF as is then if there is a next faction it could get the same treatment. When I saw playable Romulan instead of Romulan faction it made the choice even easier.

    I hope they would learn from the mistakes they did with the KDF, and if they made the Romulans, not make them again, but only time will tell. Romulans have been asked for as far back since the game started.

    How i sum up the KDF in the game at the moment

    Kirk: Don't believe them. Don't trust them.

    Spock: They are dying.

    Kirk: Let them die.
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  • mgmirkin426mgmirkin426 Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    1) More KDF content
    2) Playable Romulans
    3) More Featured Episodes
    4) Improved DOFF System

    Approximately in that order...

    ~MG
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    So exploration is no longer thought to be seeing a revamp for Season 7? I have to say that disappoints me.

    While I'm pleased to see a player poll, I'm a bit disturbed that both an Exploration Revamp and KDF content are suggested to not be possible during 2012. So we are looking at Season 8? Which would fall no earlier than February 2, 2013. This would be consistent with a game update coinciding with the games anniversary.

    KDF content should, IMO, arrive with the anniversary.
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  • derekslidederekslide Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    dastahl wrote: »
    My current thoughts have been that a healthy PvP system will need two healthy factions. KDF has been getting better, but it needs the final push to get it to where it needs to go. Once that happens, then PvP improvements will go much farther towards what will be useful for the long term health of the game.

    I wonder if fleshing out the KDF will really make that happen. I think most people just do Fed vs Fed.

    Have you considered advancing the story to the point where the Klingons and Federation are forced to ally? PVP scenarios and PVE Missions that were faction specific could be streamlined into 1 queue , making it easier to manage. It would also encourage people to play their Klingons, since they would have a much bigger pool of players (FED) to play with!

    Finally, what guarantee is there that fleshing out the KDF faction will bring more players to PVP? I imagine that a new game mode, or new maps would have much more of an appreciable impact on PVP'ers!

    Also, on a sidenote, in case you actually get a chance to read this, have you considered adding Damage/Healing leaderboards in PVE, STF's?

    This would help me help others in my fleet, or rather, pinpoint those who could use some help to make their life (and mine) easier when running an STF or No-Win for example! Of all the features I keep hoping gets added in, this HAS to be number 1.

    And finally, I have been dismissive, rude and crass at times when it comes to Cryptic, but I must say that the game is really taking off. It makes me very happy to have gone ahead and purchased a lifetime account, not to mention the tons of CP I have bought!

    Thank you!
  • irishhawkdrakeirishhawkdrake Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Go Romulans!
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    I hope they would learn from the mistakes they did with the KDF, and if they made the Romulans, not make them again, but only time will tell. Romulans have been asked for as far back since the game started.

    How i sum up the KDF in the game at the moment

    Kirk: Don't believe them. Don't trust them.

    Spock: They are dying.

    Kirk: Let them die.

    And let STO die too I guess, a narrow point of view for sure. If you'd even check out the forums, the KDF player base have had it with the lack of development and if the Dev's decided to do a Romulan faction before finishing off the KDF to a satisfactory level a good portion of Cryptic's income will fly out the door. Do you really want a Romulan faction to be in the same boat the KDF faction has been in since launch? If they loose 20% of their market, Cryptic would have to downsize it's staff would would also slow down development for all aspects of the game.

    There were promises made to the KDF faction before the game even went live, none to the Romulans. I too would like to see the Romulans but not before Cryptic can show us that they can develop two factions with equality and unbiased towards either faction.

    To be totally honest, a 3rd faction is not needed at this age of the game. Maybe in a few years, but certainly not now.

    It's in all players best interests for KDF development.
    Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    IMO the federation is unfinished, the kdf is unfinished...

    The bottom line is like you have exploration that looks like TRIBBLE on the fed side(edit: it also looks like TRIBBLE on the KDF side only difference is you can actually target the enemy in Fed exploration) for your end game besides the rehashed stuff both sides get for fleet events. Then the KDF has pi canis for their dilithium but being i have 12 KDF characters right now for me I could care less about level 1-20 missions its more on the lines of end game for me and their faction has what I want it to have which I think should be in the game for both factions plus the romulans being up to par with that when they are released.
  • kadieraskadieras Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    hehe nicely quoted ;) It's completely unacceptable that a Trek game was released with the KDF but not the RSE. It's something that needs to be fixed. I love how all the KDF players love to speak for the Romulan fans and say how it's on our best interests that the KDF is fleshed out first...right, because waiting won't make the task of implementing the RSE and ensuring that they are equivalent to the other two factions harder.
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    I hope they would learn from the mistakes they did with the KDF, and if they made the Romulans, not make them again, but only time will tell. Romulans have been asked for as far back since the game started.

    How i sum up the KDF in the game at the moment

    Kirk: Don't believe them. Don't trust them.

    Spock: They are dying.

    Kirk: Let them die.
    Like the Romulan Alliance System? Of course you do, it sounds fine to you because you aren't Romulans, you're FED or KDF who are going to make a Romulan alt, it makes a HUGE difference in perspective.
  • jjumetleyjjumetley Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    First finish the Klingon faction, then move on to Romulans. On the other hand - those green-blooded %@&$%# will be a great target practice :D
  • r5e4w3q2r5e4w3q2 Member Posts: 341 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    dastahl wrote: »
    Relax! We actually have a pretty good idea of what we are already doing and as much fun as this poll is, it is only representative of a small portion of our user base. There are many more players who will never vote on this poll. We take all of that into account as well as the huge amount of data we have on the back end when prioritizing our business.

    Not to say that this poll is meaningless, it does help us confirm our internal priority order, but it is not like this poll is dictating the master schedule. It is you voicing your concern over what is need most so we can ensure we're on the same page. So far, the voting is almost entirely what I expected (with the exception of Exploration)

    Well people that PvP or STF would be more interested in the up to date info and fine details, and therefore more likely to read the forums. On the other hand things like exploration, crafting and improvements in the duty officer system might be of more interest to casual players, which also are less likely to visit the forums regularly.
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