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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I made a request for account-wide unlocks in this month's Ask Cryptic:
    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3602561&postcount=9

    Please feel free to ask yourselves as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I made a request for account-wide unlocks in this month's Ask Cryptic:
    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3602561&postcount=9

    Please feel free to ask yourselves as well.

    Cheers for getting in there early. For what it's worth, I've asked too.

    Let's see if we get noticed this month!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Given that they're starting to migrate actual items to per-purchase, I think chances for this are slim to nonexistent. Unfortunately.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Another Idea: (if the accountwide BO slots cut too much into PROFITS) Make the accountwide slots limited (2-6 slots for example) anything beyond that limit has to been aquired with slots per char.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The Bad News is the question wasn't answered in the July Ask Cryptic.

    The Good News is the question wasn't answered in the July Ask Cryptic.

    Keep on advocating...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Well, the new C-Store page shows Inventory and Bank Slots for sale.

    Character only, and limited to a few extra per character.

    Strangely enough, the Bank Slots are cheaper, despite being inventory slots that can only be accessed at certain locations.

    Guess you pay for the convenience. :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Yeeeeeeeah...

    STO is increasingly explicitly a cash shop game that makes you pay for the privilege of accessing the store :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Thanks to the 183rd voter, a full 80% of players polled have expressed a desire for account-wide slots, and would not buy character-only. 11% would buy character-only slots, and 9% will never buy at all.
    • 56% (102) would buy account-wide slots, but NOT character-specific.
    • 24% (44) have already bought character-specific slots, but would ONLY buy more if they were account-wide.
    • 7% (12) have already bought character-specific slots, and would buy more.
    • 1% (2) have already bought character-specific slots, and will never buy more.
    • 4% (8) have not bought slots, and would not care either way if they did.
    • 8% (15) will never buy slots from the C-Store.

    I wonder how many of the 80% would take them up on the offer if they trialled a price.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Thanks to the 183rd voter, a full 80% of players polled have expressed a desire for account-wide slots, and would not buy character-only. 11% would buy character-only slots, and 9% will never buy at all.
    • 56% (102) would buy account-wide slots, but NOT character-specific.
    • 24% (44) have already bought character-specific slots, but would ONLY buy more if they were account-wide.
    • 7% (12) have already bought character-specific slots, and would buy more.
    • 1% (2) have already bought character-specific slots, and will never buy more.
    • 4% (8) have not bought slots, and would not care either way if they did.
    • 8% (15) will never buy slots from the C-Store.

    I wonder how many of the 80% would take them up on the offer if they trialled a price.

    I wonder if Cryptic is even paying any attention to this thread or poll for that fact.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Exactly. Without wishing to gripe and complain at Cryptic, it would make sense for the C-Store to offer both options.

    From what I recall, the reason why it hasn't been implemented is that the additional Ship and Bridge Officer slots will cause a lot of server lag when changing locations. But it's lag that will happen for a single character at a time anyway, and to my knowledge would offer no discernable impact from a player who has bought these slots on a single character.

    I could, of course, be wrong. But I still feel it is worth debating to determine what a fair C-Store price for account-wide slots would be.

    I don't buy the argument about server resources. If it were a problem, they wouldn't have had a sale on just those slots. That being said, you won't see account wide slots for these items.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Seriously, they would make more money on this if it was account bound rather than per character. I will not buy slots until they make it account bound. In addition, I think some people will buy slots more than once.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    New Ask Cryptic. Questions reasked.

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3655579&postcount=22

    /Prepared to be ignored. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    New Ask Cryptic. Questions reasked.

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3655579&postcount=22

    /Prepared to be ignored. :p

    Likewise. First page and everything!

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3655538&postcount=7

    Let's see what happens...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Getting close to 200 votes in the poll now, and the trend definitely points toward 80%.

    Let's hope we get some joy in the August Ask Cryptic.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dont keep your hopes up too high; with the Character-bound bank and inventory slot I dont see any step into the right direction.

    Seems like Cryptic is less into making money and more into making costomers unhappy....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dont keep your hopes up too high; with the Character-bound bank and inventory slot I dont see any step into the right direction.

    Seems like Cryptic is less into making money and more into making costomers unhappy....

    We may be lucky with Perfect World, *maybe* under their "command" we will see improvements.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Valenn wrote: »
    We may be lucky with Perfect World, *maybe* under their "command" we will see improvements.

    We can only hope.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I seriously do not see myself buying any Character Specific Ship, BOff, or Inventory/Bank slots. Not unless they reduce in price drastically and would be able to be applied to another character should you choose to delete the one they were applied to.

    I would be way more likely to buy an "Account-Wide" upgrade, for a nominal fee, to give me more ship slots, BOFF slots and Inventory spaces across all of my characters. I seriously loathe character specific things in cash shops.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Over 5000 words in the new Ask Cryptic, and not one of them giving a definite Yay or Nay to this proposal.

    By the time we get a response, this thread will have been going for nearly a year. So reporting for sticky.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Heretic has recently stated every character that has completed the Diplomacy grind will receive an additional four Bridge Officers when Duty Officers go live.

    That's a lot of BOffs to juggle at short notice, with no space to juggle them unless each character is paid for individually.

    Should additional BOff slots be granted in this case? That way it becomes a reward and not an expense.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Heretic has recently stated every character that has completed the Diplomacy grind will receive an additional four Bridge Officers when Duty Officers go live.

    That's a lot of BOffs to juggle at short notice, with no space to juggle them unless each character is paid for individually.

    Should additional BOff slots be granted in this case? That way it becomes a reward and not an expense.

    Wow... i hope that at least 50% of them will bring their own accomodation with them, otherwise they have to camp in cargobay 2... unfortunately hazardous materials are stored there too ;).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Now F2P has been confirmed, the C-Store will be the game's major source of revenue.

    Given (approximately) 4 in 5 players of the players polled won't be buying unless the slots are account-wide, it's a risky gamble for Cryptic.

    Here's hoping the STO store follows the Champions lead and offers both character and account-wide slots, at corresponding price points.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Rather then account wide options for those the the Store team shoud reevaluate there pricing.
    Real micro transactions are small compared to some of the larger chunks you have to pay for.
    Think about a ship option 1,500 points for a ship variant you only use for one or maybe two toons so why pay that much at all?

    Something like a account wide vault (bank) where i can store gear and BOff's would be a more pressing matter to me as account wide option then BOff and Ship Slots.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Thrown a question about account-wide slots up on the Free to Play Q&A forum.

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=230638

    As the forum is about the business model behind the game instead of the game itself, it seems appropriate.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Well, it took nearly a year to get a response, but there we have it:
    Q: HeathenStorm: Has there been any progress toward selling account-wide Bridge Officer, Ship, Bank and Inventory slot unlocks on the C-Store?

    A: Slots are going to remain as character based unlocks.

    (Source: http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2609 )

    I guess the 12% polled who don't mind character-only slots are going to be happy. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    The latest Ask Cryptic states these won't be going account wide. It's unfortunate too. I would of bought some of each if they were available in account wide but sadly, they don't want my money bad enough.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Yeah this is a very bad decision. But at least we got an answer.... finally.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Well, it took nearly a year to get a response, but there we have it:



    I guess the 12% polled who don't mind character-only slots are going to be happy. ;)

    *sigh, puts some money back in the purse* but thanks for asking.

    But according to the F2P matrix we may get at least the BO-slots for some Promotions (retroactively) like the Captain (not sure about "missing BO slots) and the RA/VA promotions
    Additional Bridge Officer Slots +2 Additional Slots Per RankAdditional Slots Purchasable

    (Unfortunately it seems that we will loose some bankspace)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Throwing my thoughts in :

    I change uniforms nearly every time I log in. Seriously, uniform or personal changes are the reason I'm always broke. I recently thought about getting the +2 uniform slots until I realized it was per character instead of per account. I don't play just one character though, I have a science, an engineer and a KDF character that I hit up from time to time depending on how I want to play.

    The fact that the slots are single character instead of per account is the reason I didn't buy it.

    So I am a statistic that the OP can use.
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