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Account-wide Ship and Bridge Officer slots - redux

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited September 2011 in C-Store, ZEN, and Promotions
Note added July 31st 2011:
This thread has become the defacto place for politely requesting the addition of account-wide Ship, Bridge Officer, Bank and Inventory slots to the C-Store. The reason being players would like account-wide options that are not wasted when deleting or retiring characters, and are prepared to pay for the privilege.

A Poll has been run since February 2011, indicating approximately 80% of players desire this option, and would NOT buy the character-only equivalents.

If this issue concerns you, please vote and add to the discussion!


Original Message:

Now that the initial shock and fury has died down, it's time to (politely) reiterate a question raised previously.

When will there be an option to buy account-wide Ship and Bridge Officer slots in the C-Store?

Although it's already been said that these slots are 'expensive' in terms of Server Overhead, quite a few potential shoppers are turned off by the idea of buying more slots on a character basis. But are prepared to pay a premium to have them unlocked for all characters. A generous premium.

As this weekend has proved, Bridge Officer rewards are popular - and with many more ships being added to the game it's only fair that all our characters have the opportunity to manage their expanding options.

(And while we're at it, what about account-wide Bank slots?)
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    So, is there no interest in purchasing extra account-wide Bridge Officer and Ship slots?

    Might be a lucrative C-Store revenue filler now that the Nebula's been delayed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    It'd be nice, but not likely to happen.

    IMO we should be able to buy a second bank tab just like a fleet can, but only once.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    With the new Breen officer out there and no slots left i fully support this request.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    There's no need for it... get rid of one of your BOs you don't care for or buy the extra slots for your main character, simple solution. Besides if you're doing the Breen episodes on a lower tier character you shouldn't have all your BO slots filled unless you for some reason load up everything without thinking.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    FredCasden wrote:
    There's no need for it... get rid of one of your BOs you don't care for or buy the extra slots for your main character, simple solution. Besides if you're doing the Breen episodes on a lower tier character you shouldn't have all your BO slots filled unless you for some reason load up everything without thinking.

    Well, yes you can. But the topic is about paying for the convenience of not having to, across multiple characters instead of one.

    More options are good for everyone.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    But not everyone has multiple characters, there's your problem.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    FredCasden wrote:
    But not everyone has multiple characters, there's your problem.

    I don't see any problem.

    Stands to reason that the kind of player who would pay for multiple character slots would benefit most from this. Multiple character slots are a niche option. They are more convenient than deleting an existing character and creating a new one when change is desired.

    Some people would prefer to play a single character all the way through, and that's their choice.

    Likewise, some people would be happy to delete existing Bridge Officers and Ships on multiple characters when new options are rewarded in game or purchased from the C-Store. Again, that's their choice.

    This proposal is to add a further option, not to remove the options that already exist.

    Why is that a problem?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    FredCasden wrote:
    There's no need for it... get rid of one of your BOs you don't care for or buy the extra slots for your main character, simple solution. Besides if you're doing the Breen episodes on a lower tier character you shouldn't have all your BO slots filled unless you for some reason load up everything without thinking.

    Believe me if i tell you that i am also one of the Players that have all BOff slots filled up.
    And there was more then a little thinking involved.

    As a Sci Cpt. i switch quit offten between Escort for Dailys (alot faster then with any sci ship) and depending on the STF and my space role supposed Sci Ship.

    That way i have to make room for additional BOffs just for the canons spec of the escort not to mention atleast two Sci BOff sets of support and debuff for Undine, Borg, Breen.

    I totaly aggre with the OP for account wide additional BOff slots.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I'm have no problems with micro-transactions but all C-Store purchase (not rename or respec) should be account wide not per character. I will not purchase anything that is per character. They made uniform slots per character after all the outcry, why they haven't done the same with ship and BO slots make no sense.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I'm have no problems with micro-transactions but all C-Store purchase (not rename or respec) should be account wide not per character. I will not purchase anything that is per character. They made uniform slots per character after all the outcry, why they haven't done the same with ship and BO slots make no sense.

    Exactly. Without wishing to gripe and complain at Cryptic, it would make sense for the C-Store to offer both options.

    From what I recall, the reason why it hasn't been implemented is that the additional Ship and Bridge Officer slots will cause a lot of server lag when changing locations. But it's lag that will happen for a single character at a time anyway, and to my knowledge would offer no discernable impact from a player who has bought these slots on a single character.

    I could, of course, be wrong. But I still feel it is worth debating to determine what a fair C-Store price for account-wide slots would be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    If they make it account wide, they should charge the amount it is now times the amount of characters you have at time of purchase minues say 20%. You want the freebies, you should have to pay MORE to get it, simple as that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    FredCasden wrote:
    You want the freebies, you should have to pay MORE to get it, simple as that.

    I'm glad we agree.
    But are prepared to pay a premium to have them unlocked for all characters. A generous premium.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I agree that the BOff and Ship slots should be account-wide unlocks. As they are now, they're not something I have plans to purchase. If they were made account-wide, yes, I'd definitely buy some -- as long as they're priced within reason. Personally, I think the present per-character versions are way overpriced. I'm not going to fork out a ton more money for the account-wide version either. A bit more, maybe. But I'm certainly not made of money here. Just trying to keep my head above water, so to speak. This is entertainment -- non-essentials. It'll have to be reasonable, or I just won't bother.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    / support account wide, also we need more free slots in game for higher Admiral ranks....5 per higher Admiral rank
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    The C-Store items Extra BO Slots and Extra Ship Slots are broken.

    At best, and most prefered, the slots need to be unlocked for the full account.

    If they are going to keep these features on a per character basis, they need to at least, lower the price. 400CP ($5) is too expensive. Added Costume slots are 400, and those are account wide unlocks. Lower the BO/Ship slots to 100-200CP, or maybe as high as a respec at 280CP.

    I buy a lot from the C-Store. I'm not ashamed to admit it. I like shiney things and I like supporting the game. In fact I've purchased everything except these broken slots a couple of the too expensive ships (I have got all the ship skins, bridges, the Connie and Excel though). I have purchased MANY Extra Costume Slots (like 10 sets, no really! I'm a costume junkie). I like playing with configurations and settings, so I would buy extra BO/Ship slots if they fixed them.

    10/11 Edit: For the record, I went back and counted... I have purchsed 11 sets of Extra Costume Slots. I will likely buy more as more uniforms are release. I've got cash to burn in the C-Store, I'd buy the extra BO/Ship slots if they were fixed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I second that too.

    Well without hate I want to point out the "Issue" of the number of BO slots wich bugs me since release:

    It was OBVIOUSLY planned to give us 12 slots in the first place. Why obviously?
    1. becaus before release it simply was promised by the devs, in the Info part of the STO homepage on the same, now disapeared site where they also promised that wie could earn Crypic Points at ANY TIME ingame.

    2. We get constant BO slots on every rank, just not at Captain. If we would get it there it would be 12.

    3. The Tier 5 Bridges always have 12 officers. That is, in my opinion the biggest problem: I did put a lot of efford in customizing my BOs, including giving them the same Uniform. But there are always 2 BOs on the bridge wich simply do not fit in.
    I have 3 chars leveled out and 2 on the way, to get the bridges right i would have to spend 2400 Crypic points, for something that SHOULD already be in the game. Im willing to pay for those slots, even if they were promised be includet(as a Klingon player I'm used to get lied by the devs), but just a reasonable price. 400 for all Chars, i guess thats al right, but 400 just 4 1!?!?!?!?!?!

    And i thing the argument of server capacity is a little off: you get 2 character Slots for 500 points, those include even at LT level 10 bo slots and a number of ship slots and bank slots. But for 400 you just get 2 Bo slots???
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    /signed

    The price for something per character in this case is a joke. Everything else at that price or lower is account-wide.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Heck I would buy extra rows of bank slots for my officers and also buying a account bank would be great...easier to transfer goods between my characters.....would beat mailing them...thats a pain! I would even pay 2000cp for an vice admiral level account bank with additional tabs availabe for 500-1000 each...just to have room for my anomalies and other stuff i don't like to get rid of!:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I'd spend more on the c store like the costumes/ships and bo slots if as people have widely agreed, more fair and make ships/BO's account wide or the costs reflected account vs character.

    The meniton of paying more if you have more characters at time of purchase would be unfair since those with multiple characters would have to pay more than someone who only has 1 character BUT THEN goes on to make more characters (can't see Cryptic charging you afterwards otherwise it's per character again). If it's account wide then it's down to the customer to benefit more from it by making more characters.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Should have been this way from the start.

    Greed sux.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Is it still per toon or account wide? Because the description hasn't changed, but I remember at the start it was per toon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    T'Rehes wrote:
    Is it still per toon or account wide? Because the description hasn't changed, but I remember at the start it was per toon.
    Costume slots were unlocked for the whole account. Ship and BO slots are still per character, more's the pity!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    The ship and BO slots have to be account wide before I purchase them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Costume slots were unlocked for the whole account. Ship and BO slots are still per character, more's the pity!

    That makes no sense.

    Well, I'll not buy them until they are. Too much of a waste to buy them per toon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    T'Rehes wrote:
    That makes no sense.

    Well, I'll not buy them until they are. Too much of a waste to buy them per toon.
    I agree. See post 16 above. :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    I really wish they would make this account wide. I'd purchase the boff and ship slots immediately if they they did this, even if there was slight increase in price.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Account wide would br nice, but somehow I doubt we'll see it happen. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it. I'd even buy it; it would totally be worth it to have my large bridge crew larger so my large bridge could be filled with named officers and I could have a nice load-out for PvE and PvP just by switching my 5 officers with 5 different ones...

    Or just so I can keep expanding my crew so the bridge crew's uniforms match. It's the only fix until we can customize our ship crew's uniforms. So, I suppose that's a pro for implimenting it sooner because more might buy it while waiting for the crew customization options.

    EDIT: Not that I wanted to come off as idea or dev team bashing, but it just seems that their might be a few things on the list with higher priority...

    I'd still love to see this implemented though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Costume slots were unlocked for the whole account. Ship and BO slots are still per character, more's the pity!
    BOOO!!! HISSSSS!
    JCSWW wrote: »
    The ship and BO slots have to be account wide before I purchase them.

    / agreed then I am on board!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    Nice to see this thread getting a bit more attention.

    It's strange how we cannot buy account-wide ship slots, yet can get an extra one for free just by accepting a level 6 mission.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2011
    In a thinly veiled attempt to garner more attention to this thread, I have prepared a poll so folk can show their interest.

    The responses are:
    • I WOULD buy account-wide slots, but NOT character-specific slots.
    • I have already bought character-specific slots, but WOULD ONLY buy more if they were account-wide.
    • I have already bought character-specific slots, and WOULD buy more character-specific slots.
    • I have already bought character-specific slots, and will NEVER buy more.
    • I have NOT bought any slots. If I did, I DO NOT CARE whether they are character-specific or not.
    • I will NEVER buy extra slots from the C-Store.

    Register your vote at: http://poll.fm/2py70
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