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DRAFT - The Nebula

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited October 2010 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE!!! (unless you forgot what happened with the Excelsior) but better to start talking about it now than weeks from now.

Also keep in mind this ship has been in development for some time (pre-dates the new KDF ships being worked on)

Ok... here it is

Nebula
A StarCruiser variant (Its not a Retrofit. It utilizes the StarCruiser Skill).

Requires:
Rear Admiral

Weapons:
4 Fore
4 Aft

Boff seats (4 Boffs, 11 Powers):
1 Lt Tact
1 Cm Eng
1 LC Science
1 Lt Universal

Mods:
4 Eng
3 Sci
2 Tact

3 Device Slots

750 Crew

Unique Ability:
Tachyon Detection Grid: PBAoE buff that increases your, and allies w/in 10k, Starship Sensor Stat and Cloak Detection. Each buffed ally in turn will buff more allies within 10k of them - thus extending the grid.

Turn Rate = Galaxy
Any other stats not mentioned are the same as a Star Cruiser.

Screenshots attached - the second is one of the mission pod swap out configuration options
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Universal bridge slot? Cool team-play stealth detection mechanics?

    Available in-game for emblems? C-store only?

    Looks pretty though.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    inb4qq

    ship looks good

    where are the escorts?!
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    gotta ask . . .

    C-store purchase?
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    *sigh* Another cruiser, now i am sad. We need science ship and escort options. Players with those ships have money too, you know. ;)
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    A universal slot??? Nice.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    nice set of skills, but won't care about it because I do not like the looks.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I really want this, but please allow for purchase using 500 emblems/1 Ship Plaque method like the Retrofits.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    1. Klingon players will NOT be happy with a universal BOff slot. That's the main selling point of the BoP, and with two cloaking Fed ships expect some outrage there.

    2. Tachyon Detection Grid seems like a Science-type power, and we're short on Science ships, heavy on Cruisers. Might want to consider retooling the Nebula into a Deep Space Science Vessel offshoot.

    3. This ship has a combat-focused special ability, the standard 9 consoles, versatility of BO slots thanks to breaking up the LtC BO position from the Com one. Kinda seems like there needs to be a bigger disadvantage than Battle Cruiser-style device slots (especially when devices aren't such a boon) and 50 fewer crew than an Assault Cruiser.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    il ike the info..woot...

    but im not diggin the nacelles on your "work in progress" pic...just fyi :)
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Looks cool, but I think the game has enough Cruisers as it is (at the moment).
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Darren_Kitlor wrote:
    Universal bridge slot? Cool team-play stealth detection mechanics?

    Available in-game for emblems? C-store only?

    Looks pretty though.

    Since apparently the justification for not making the T5 Excelsior available for emblems was "it's a RA ship, and you can't get emblems until VA"...
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I'd rather see it as a Science ship, that uses the DSV Skill Set.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    So there's going to be two Nebula's right? Probably a T3 and T5 refit, like the Excelsior?

    So how about the reverse of the Excelsior compromise this time around, and instead of a free T3 ship and a T5 ship in the C-Store, we get a free T5 refit and the T3 hits the store? That seems equitable.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote: »
    1. Klingon players will NOT be happy with a universal BOff slot. That's the main selling point of the BoP, and with two cloaking Fed ships expect some outrage there.

    2. Tachyon Detection Grid seems like a Science-type power, and we're short on Science ships, heavy on Cruisers. Might want to consider retooling the Nebula into a Deep Space Science Vessel offshoot.

    3. This ship has a combat-focused special ability, the standard 9 consoles, versatility of BO slots thanks to breaking up the LtC BO position from the Com one. Kinda seems like there needs to be a bigger disadvantage than Battle Cruiser-style device slots (especially when devices aren't such a boon) and 50 fewer crew than an Assault Cruiser.

    #2....
    i was hoping to get more of a sci class varient myself. we have a ton of cruiser types out already...

    but meh...
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Sir_James_of_Cadiz wrote:
    il ike the info..woot...

    but im not diggin the nacelles on your "work in progress" pic...just fyi :)

    NOW IT IS TIME FOR ME TO NERF IT MEWHAHAHAHA.... ok I'm kidding it looks good...
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote: »
    1. Klingon players will NOT be happy with a universal BOff slot. That's the main selling point of the BoP, and with two cloaking Fed ships expect some outrage there.

    2. Tachyon Detection Grid seems like a Science-type power, and we're short on Science ships, heavy on Cruisers. Might want to consider retooling the Nebula into a Deep Space Science Vessel offshoot.

    3. This ship has a combat-focused special ability, the standard 9 consoles, versatility of BO slots thanks to breaking up the LtC BO position from the Com one. Kinda seems like there needs to be a bigger disadvantage than Battle Cruiser-style device slots (especially when devices aren't such a boon) and 50 fewer crew than an Assault Cruiser.

    Listen to this man errr robot. Except for point 3, no nerf please. :D
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote: »
    So there's going to be two Nebula's right? Probably a T3 and T5 refit, like the Excelsior?

    So how about the reverse of the Excelsior compromise this time around, and instead of a free T3 ship and a T5 ship in the C-Store, we get a free T5 refit and the T3 hits the store? That seems equitable.

    A T4 for energy credits probably, then the T5 for who knows what. Someone will dig up a link for source.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    NeoNoir wrote: »
    Since apparently the justification for not making the T5 Excelsior available for emblems was "it's a RA ship, and you can't get emblems until VA"...

    Another ship I won't use - maybe have marks trade-able or available for energy credits?
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    As a regular eng/cruiser player, I'm afraid I have to agree that I'd like to see the Nebula as a science ship instead. We got the Excelsior, let's spread the wealth to the scientists.

    On a purely cosmetic note, I hope we get to see the "fat" and "thin" deflector/engineering hull variations from the shows.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    c-store????????
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    it does say "avaialble at RA" so there's a good possibility that its promotion token-able.

    rather have a definite answer tho.

    NEVERMIND: says Requires Rear Admiral.

    that could mean anything
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I would be very much suprised but elated if a new ship design appeared in game instead of for 1200 c-store points, the way this game is going with c-store they will continue to exploit it regardless of how many subscriptions they lose due to c-store exploitation. Eventually they will have to realise that it only brings them bad press and turns players off ever playing another cryptic designed game.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashur1 wrote:
    Listen to this man errr robot. Except for point 3, no nerf please. :D

    Actually that's my Champions Online main. He's power armour/might with a touch of force and gadgetry... so he's sort of a man in a robotic suit...:D
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    artic1337 wrote:
    it does say "avaialble at RA" so there's a good possibility that its promotion token-able.

    rather have a definite answer tho.

    NEVERMIND: says Requires Rear Admiral.

    that could mean anything

    The Excelsior said the same thing, so go figure. :(
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote: »
    1. Klingon players will NOT be happy with a universal BOff slot. That's the main selling point of the BoP, and with two cloaking Fed ships expect some outrage there.

    2. Tachyon Detection Grid seems like a Science-type power, and we're short on Science ships, heavy on Cruisers. Might want to consider retooling the Nebula into a Deep Space Science Vessel offshoot.

    3. This ship has a combat-focused special ability, the standard 9 consoles, versatility of BO slots thanks to breaking up the LtC BO position from the Com one. Kinda seems like there needs to be a bigger disadvantage than Battle Cruiser-style device slots (especially when devices aren't such a boon) and 50 fewer crew than an Assault Cruiser.


    Personally, I would like to see ALL of the Klingon ships utilize universal slots. Klingons are not as likely to be scanning random anomolies, and charting stars, as the Federation, so having a science officer-heavy Klingon ship is pretty ridiculous. I am hoping that the Excelsior and Nebula represent a beginning where all of the ship BOFF slots are looked at and reworked, some.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE!!! (unless you forgot what happened with the Excelsior) but better to start talking about it now than weeks from now.

    Also keep in mind this ship has been in development for some time (pre-dates the new KDF ships being worked on)

    Ok... here it is

    Nebula
    A StarCruiser variant (Its not a Retrofit. It utilizes the StarCruiser Skill).

    Requires:
    Rear Admiral

    Weapons:
    4 Fore
    4 Aft

    Boff seats (4 Boffs, 11 Powers):
    1 Lt Tact
    1 Cm Eng
    1 LC Science
    1 Lt Universal

    Mods:
    4 Eng
    3 Sci
    2 Tact

    3 Device Slots

    750 Crew

    Unique Ability:
    Tachyon Detection Grid: PBAoE buff that increases your, and allies w/in 10k, Starship Sensor Stat and Cloak Detection. Each buffed ally I turn will buff more allies within 10k of them - thus extending the grid.

    Turn Rate = Galaxy
    Any other stats not mentioned are the same as a Star Cruiser.

    Screenshots attached - the second is one of the mission pod swap out configuration options

    Nice, but.....

    1) seems off that cruiser is getting the majority of all the 'new' ships in-game. And albeit the saucer and mentions of this ship are cruiser in nature i cant help but feel selfish as a Cruiser Captain.

    2) IF it is going to be based off the Star Cruiser ship skill, THEN it should have all the inherent turn and inertia values of a Star Cruiser.......otherwise, make it an Exploration variant with a 'true' Tier 5 edition like the excelsior!!!!!!!!!!

    3) IT IS ABOUT time we see some use of the universal BO. Keep it tied to slot-tiers but at least give every 'new' RA / VA a BO universal LT.

    4) Lastly, a ship such as this with its nice fleet power should have it tied to the "mission-pod", so you can have a "mission-pod" for torpedo's[ 1 fore & aft facing torp tube]. THIS way you live up to cannon/fannon expectations of players and also offer them the choice to take the pod with the power or the pod with an extra torp tube.

    Q: will there be a Mirror Universe Skin eventually for it?
    Just my view on it all.....
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Zodi-emish wrote:
    NOW IT IS TIME FOR ME TO NERF IT MEWHAHAHAHA.... ok I'm kidding it looks good...

    lmao...dont make me post against you again...last time i got an infraction...lol

    (at least this one has the LCdr Sci slot... :) )
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I see a lot of things I like right now with the Nebula. :)
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Jeff-El wrote:
    As a regular eng/cruiser player, I'm afraid I have to agree that I'd like to see the Nebula as a science ship instead. We got the Excelsior, let's spread the wealth to the scientists.

    On a purely cosmetic note, I hope we get to see the "fat" and "thin" deflector/engineering hull variations from the shows.

    If the station assignements are what the station assignemnt are then what difference does its class make?

    other than the power levels bonuses, any Profession can choose any ship class. Stick it where it makes the most sense.
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    Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    artic1337 wrote:
    it does say "avaialble at RA" so there's a good possibility that its promotion token-able.

    rather have a definite answer tho.

    NEVERMIND: says Requires Rear Admiral.

    that could mean anything


    I think that when it was first announced that the Excelsior and Nebula were being created, they were both announced to be C-Store ships.
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