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Cryptic, you said you wouldn't put any game changing things in the C-Store and the T5 Excelsior is already doing just that. It's easily dominating in PvP.
And at the same time, you completely made a mockery of the Sovereign and all the players who Captain her.
And at the same time, you completely made a mockery of the Sovereign and all the players who Captain her.
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While I'm no where near being VA, I hope what you say isn't true.
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they allready paddled back on that statement and claimed that the Galaxy-X will not be the only ship with these skills. *ahem* these KIND OF skills. Of course it is still a unique game mechanic and all but if 3 other ships do something LIKE IT.... then it is nothing "game changing".
The Excelsior also is not the only "Retrofit". there are more allready and there will be more... C-Store only of course.
So from the very start that all was a load of Bullsh...it
welcome to "Pay double 2 Play"...
if this keeps up i seriously have to think about resubbing after my one year sub runs out.
Bad enough the Star Cruiser and the Galaxy-R has more survivability, but the Excelsior-Refit has superior Tactical abilities, better manuverability, and better survival.
So all in all, Sovereign Captains got the middle finger. :mad:
In my opinion the Sov should have the excelsior's stats, and the Excelsior should have the Sov's stats. That would be more fitting given the fact that it is the Assault Cruiser.
It was, actually, a pretty cool thing for Cryptic to do. The Galaxy-X was introduced as a referall / subscription stimulus program. Trekbois + baubles = feeding frenzy so there were people who actually went out and purchased 5 more copies ofthe game and signed up for 5 more subs jsut to have Riker's spiffy future Enterprise.
The 2000 CP version on the C-Store could be viewed as Cryptic's way of saying "stop the madness, here's a cheaper way to get it."
Or they could have just waited till the intial sales rush of retail boxes died out and said, "ch-ching phase 2 put it on the C-Store now."
Meh, whatever . . . this whole C-Store situation is a complete fiasco.
The problem is ... the ship with the better stats is the one sold for RL dollars on the C-Store.
If you are, I have been in several PVP battles with you guys and you have been stripping us down like crazy.
It's fair IMHO.
Is there PVP in this game ? I hadn't noticed.....:p
I mean can we have the Excelsior without a buggy Transwarp drive and awesome 80s style computer voice?
Seriously though, I do agree that putting this straight to the C-Store without even announcing an in-game method of acquiring it wasn't a very good idea. C-Store truly needs to be for cosmetic items, not ships with unique abilities. "Game Changing" can be defined many ways and just the Transwarp drive could be considered game changing, to say nothing of it being the only cruiser with a Lt.Cmdr. tac slot.
Now there are two unique ships in the C-Store, both cruisers with abilities unable to be obtained through any in-game means. I didn't really care about the Galaxy-X at first, but with that and now the Excelsior they're starting a bad precedent and really need to re-evaluate their C-Store policy. "Cosmetic Only" means no unique abilities and it's something they really need to stick to.
As far as mocking the Sovereign, I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. Those Engi Excelsior captains may be tough to take down, but I'm not ready to declare it impossible till I face one head on. The only question is will that extra Lt. Cmdr engi slot be enough to compete with the Lt.Cmdr Tac abilities...
And so yes I also bought it. Shame on me I was curious.
But I tell ya what Cryptic. Those were the last points I had to spend. No more money from this player.
What you´re doing with the c-store is insane. Stop this madness.
Go create new ships and they better NOT be in the c-store.
What about the Klingon captains ...or whats left of them.
Thats all it is. I completely agree.
And here we are with Excelsiors?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh that cryptic...
And I knew this was going to happen. Eventually, the original (and proper) T5s would get outclassed by the retrofits.
My distaste in the idea of retrofits is why I didn't buy the T5 version, and I'm happily cruising around the B'Tran cluster(f#ck)......at least, when the game isn't crashing on me....
Instead of whining and crying about this, man up (or woman up if it's fitting) and start thinking about suggestions and solutions to rectify this.
The past two days, one of the biggest threads on this forum featured conversation and dialouge with both Jack and dStahl. Obviously they want to hear what we have to say and want to try and overcome their stigma.
So....
Let's help them do that. Come up with ideas and solutions. Not more gripes.
My idea:
Boost up the VA ships. all of them, across the board. I've always felt they were a little weak anyway, so let's get a boost going on, that will bring them into line with the Excelsior refit, or slightly above it.
Stop crying for nerfs and start thinking proactively.
Cryptic is dead set on keeping the Excelsior Refit as is and it's very doubtful there will be any changes to the Sovereign anytime soon. So we just got the middle finger and told "if you want to do better fork over $20 for the ship and a respec token".
My Main is an Engineer Sovereign Captain, while my Secondary is a Klingon Raptor General. And I honestly saw Sovereign dieing faster than Excelsior-Refits.
Heck, as I said previously, Excelsiors with Beam Overload 3 can easily 1 shot player T5 BoPs.
Afraid that's another thread in itself. From what I hear, its another 2 months before Klingons get anything. But at least the K'Vort's confirmed.
I as well, when it was announced it was going to have a LT Commander Tactical. But the Star Cruiser still is viable and is probably the best tanking ship in the game due to the Science Slots. However, the Sovereign is clearly obsolete.
What are you talking about its not dominating pvp, i have being pvping in mine and its not dominating, and give the sovereign will be usless thing a break the soverign is a skin thats all call irt by its name asult cruiser, and what are you goin to do when the T6 come out and its not the sovereign skin have kittens?
My solution is pretty easy to do. Wait. Wait for the Nebula. See how cool that will be for 15 bucks or so. Or ... wait for the Enterprise J. Or the TOS Enterprise Refit.
They have to one up the Excelsior with those ships. And that means even more power for your RL dollars.
Jeez. Overreact much? I see you complain alot on the forums and I always hold back to responding directly. I just can't do it this time. I doubt there's an aspect of the game you haven't whined about. Seriously, the amount of QQ over this ship is setting new records. The Excelsior has better burst potential... and less survivability. So I'm not sure how this renders your assault cruiser or mine a POS. I've already seen a number of posts that counter your claims that the Ex is OP in PvP. How many threads are you gonna spam this propaganda in? All the whining already got the LTC Sci station removed (at the very last minute... hasty) because, "oh noes, they can PSW and BO3 me... OP!" It also got all the refits nerfed too. Good lord... when the klinks finally get there refits the servers will probably crash with all the outcries of how OP they are. Bottom line; One round of PvP dailies and getting owned by players better than youor who got lucky doesn't mean anything except maybe you need to play more and QQ less on the forums.
I rather focus on the now, which is the Excelsior being superior to that of the already established Sovereign.
Better manuverbility
Same HPs
And the LT Commander Tactical being superior to the Sovereign's Ensign and LT Tactical stations.
Then of course there is the Ensign Engineering slot, which gives it better survival.
Just that alone makes it superior to the Sovereign, not same as.
Pretty sure that the LTC eng BO station the AC has is a lott better than a third ensign eng BO station in terms of survivability, "of course." Again, the turn rate is 8 vs 7... the Ex is a smaller ship by the way so slightly better mobility makes sense. The ex has a Tac LTC the AC has and Eng LTC... its called a trade-off. Can someone confirm the HPs... I was under the impression the Ex had slightly less hull. What else you got...
Let's stick to the Ensign slots, okay. The Engineering Ensign is far superior to the Ensign Tactical and everyone knows it.
Right now, the Sovereign has like 46300 HPs fully Speced, while the Excelsior Refit has 45600 Hps. And relaly 700hps in PvP isn't that much of a difference.
What you are throwing a temper tantrum about is that in your mind they ruined your souv that is all that's going on there is no game breaking ship that will be the end of the world I fly both ships and they both have there pluses and negative points not one better than the other .
I really hope cryptic redo all T5 ships console and BOFF slots to bring them up to par with the Excelsior. They should post their intentions asap. This will make my cancel my subscription and I will not buy anything from the c-store until they do.
I do not mind paying extra for the skin, but I will not supoort anything but cosmetic enhancments in the c-store.
From what I get in those statement it seems to me that all the ships will be brought in line w/ the Excelsior, so what exactly is the problem?
What stick to the point you want to pick at? Everyone knows that of the three professions the tac ensigns are the least impressive. That said the fact remains there was fair trade off... 1 LTC for another. The AC is not the only T5 ship stuck with the unimpressive ensign tac BO station. But interestingly you, a fellow cruiser pilot, are really the loudest at declaring the Ex is OP because the AC has a tac ensign. Why aren't you griping about the Galaxy Retrofit or the SC? They have ensign slots for eng and sci. Regardless of if one ensign is slightly better or more useful than another... everyone in the game would prefer to eliminate them completely from T5 ships. But for now at least... we all get an underachiever.
Remember refits had a chance to break the mold but then no one could stop talking about how OP the defiant would be. Every attempt to move in the direction of eliminating T5 ensign BO slots has been met with QQ overload. What was your stance on those ships before they were changed? The only ones who had any right to gripe about it was the KDF players who didn't have equal ships for PvP.
As far as the HPs, you said they were the same... I just want those who read all this to know that isn't accurate. Whatever the difference... 700 hps can men the difference between life and death, victory and loss. Kinda sound like Vin Diesel there, LOL. " It doesn't matter if you win by 700 hit points or by 36,000 hit points; winning is winning!" Sorry couldn't help myself there. :cool:
So again, really, what else do you have other than you seem unhappy with the ship you love because it has a tac ensign.
Let me ask you this. How long do you think we're going to wait until these changes take place? I seriously doubt we would see any change anytime soon.
Then there is the rebalancing that has to be done for PvP and PvE, which is going to take a month to properly iron out. So we are looking at the changes no earlier than the First Year Anniversary.
Of course I'm angry about those too, becasue the Star Cruiser wasn't no better than the Sovereign until Cryptic messed with the abilities and made Aux Heal abillities superior, in which the Science Abilities like Hazzard Emitters and TSS, and made it the most powerful tank in the game.
The Galaxy-R, well Ensign Engineering slot > Tactical Ensign slot.
But unlike those two, they didn't replace the Sovereign as a warship, but the Excelsior DID! Better Tactical, better Ensign slot, better manuverability, same HPs. Can you blame me for being mad? The Ship I worked hard to master has gotten replaced overnight for the sake of greed.
As for the HPs, I don't know how much you PvP, but to a PvPer, 700 HPs difference isn't that much of a difference. And it's funny the Excelsior-Refit has just as much HPs as a ship that's 1/3 larger. :rolleyes:
All in all, I'm tired of treating the players baddly and not even compensating. Instead we other players telling the Sovereign Captains, "TS! Deal with it!"
Yeah, until they get the same treatment, and then they are the one up in arms.