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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LOL no Klingon ships? Cryptic what a joke. Also you added another TACTICAL commander slot to escourt and removed the eng/sci ensign slot? LMFAO ....escourts need that extra ensign eng/sci slot far more than another friggin tac skill that will more than likley be on cooldown half the damn time anyway.... for battlecloak LOL. Honestly I would rather have my ensign eng/sci skill and that 3rd rear weapon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Ship wise the only thing i could think of wanting is T5 versions of the Vor'cha and B'rel and perhaps a K'vort class(B'rel on steroids)
    But other than that i'm perfectly satisfied, as i really don't care much in general for non-canon ship designs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Doh I forgot I was in the no Klingon ships again thread, got caught up in the refit junk in here, sorry guys.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Honestly for me ... I love love love my vorcha as much as many Feds enjoy and see the Galaxy class .... I would love to see one refitted.

    As far as iconic ships go, however, I have to say a K'Ting is the ultimate (next to the BoP0 in Klingon ships with history.

    Would it not be cool to see one retrofitted to where it was on par with a raptor class.

    In fact ... I like to say that my admiral level raptor is a new version of a K'Ting. ... The size is about right ... just needs the consoles, etc., to go with it.

    So for me .... Vorcha and K'Ting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    moonseye wrote: »
    Honestly for me ... I love love love my vorcha as much as many Feds enjoy and see the Galaxy class .... I would love to see one refitted.

    As far as iconic ships go, however, I have to say a K'Ting is the ultimate (next to the BoP0 in Klingon ships with history.

    Would it not be cool to see one retrofitted to where it was on par with a raptor class.

    In fact ... I like to say that my admiral level raptor is a new version of a K'Ting. ... The size is about right ... just needs the consoles, etc., to go with it.

    So for me .... Vorcha and K'Ting.

    Sweet! I too love the BoP0 Vor'Cha and K'Ting which is why I think something along the lines of my last post would work. Maybe, just maybe instead of a retofit of those, would could get the option to make it look like them in Ship Creator?

    Since we are seeing Saucer Seperation, I'd like to know how this works and if in some way can be a retrofit to a T5 we have now? Just my thoughts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    did it again dang it :mad:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    If Cryptic want to do it right they at least should do a dedicated Klingon Season, and no sideways to the Fds. They already have enough. Just downloading another 400 MB Patch from Tribble.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    There are no Tier 6 ships in game.

    They added some more Tier 5 ships that are the same power level as the previous T5 ships. On Fed side, all three of those new ships are 'refits'. Basically that means its got the exterior of a T3 or 4 ship, but the power of a T5. Klingon side got one completely new ship, a carrier, which is a completely new design.

    Of course, Klingons are all complaining about the fact that they only got one ship. Feds are complaining that all of their new ships are just reskins.

    So pick your complaint.

    cloak not reskin. L2 READ
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    alucard214 wrote: »
    Imo were getting the big shaft again from cryptic typical of all things STO. The 3 new lvl51 fed ships have special abilitys and 2 commander bo slots depending on which ship you choose. We get a damn carriar as our lvl51. with a commander tac and commander sci oh wow.. and 1 more turn rate. thats its nothing else special over what we have now. And our new uniform options as well arent anything to write home about unless your an Orion Yea looks like I won't Renew my sub next month I favor klingons but there gonna be out gunned imo in pvp against another lvl51 ship.

    yes. you TRIBBLE klingons now they cry rivers. we will all die! The universe will be fluidic space. Cloak away mate.

    pls give klingons "i win" skill so they stop acting as a little girl.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    klingons will still be superior players. hopefully this situation will lessen the cry of 'op klink'
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Roach wrote: »
    I know it gets the +15% bonus for uncloaking, as for the penalty to hull and shields.........


    I don't believe it does. Which is way unfair to the Klingons.

    It really is unfair, but it still won't help them. A crappy player is still a crappy player.......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    EmoeJoe wrote:
    klingons will still be superior players. hopefully this situation will lessen the cry of 'op klink'

    I will have to agree with you there, and I hope the same thing. Though I can promise you we will see an influx of newbies once this goes live so they can have their half naked orion to whack to. :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    My sphincter felt suddenly red raw when i saw the season 2 notes. As if i had sat on a rusty fork (again)

    It clearly shows how much time and effort goes into our faction in comparison.

    KDF will soon be only a faction for either masochists or ardent fans (which is kind of the same thing)

    I know i will never make a fed char ( i deleted mine many months ago) so i guess i'm one of the above.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Is whats on tribble now really what they have been saying was going to be the klingon patch that would start to even us out? No sure anyone know? Maybe its just me refusing to blieve this is it well Ill see i guess.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'll probably regret it later but after I read the notes for 2.0 I deleted my Klingon in disgust. It seems the Klingon's are only getting a little fluff and not really anything meaningful compared to the Federation side.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Mmmm 8 klingon only episodes plus 5 non-faction episodes is just fluff?
    Seems like a fair chunk of PvE content for klingons right there.
    Not to mention the weekly episodes that will again not be tied to any one faction.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    i dont really care much for pve ... i dont need taken by the hand spoon fed a load of bollocks to level up.
    Dont get me wrong id be happy to play those missions when they are there but my main grip has to be the new fed ships.

    the main one is the retrofit defiant its gonna be like a bop on steroids (idk if its gonna have battle cloak or not)
    but 4 forward weapons 2 on the back 4 tactical consoles (that 4th tac console is giving them more fire power than a bop right away)
    2 commander BO stations as iv posted b4 on a few places wtf cryptic.

    here is how id set mine up for my 3 fed officers tactical sci & engineer.
    THY 3 / CRF 3 in both tactical BO slots with a lower level attack patern & what ever else you want.

    My fed tactical would end up being the weakest of them all but still hit hardest.

    my sci officer id say would be the best over all cause you sneek up to 5km with THY3 queued up decloak hitting CRF 3 + Your low level attack pattern if the enemy has a chance to throw up RSP you hit em with SNB & follow through with a 2nd THY 3 & CRF 3. .. game over .
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Is whats on tribble now really what they have been saying was going to be the klingon patch that would start to even us out? No sure anyone know? Maybe its just me refusing to blieve this is it well Ill see i guess.

    To be fair, it is only the first test patch, what's there is not all that's going live.

    With that said however, it isn't nearly the amount of content and Klingon-specific stuff that we were hoping for and so far from the statements being made we'll only get a fraction of what we hoped for....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sivar wrote: »
    To be fair, it is only the first test patch, what's there is not all that's going live.

    With that said however, it isn't nearly the amount of content and Klingon-specific stuff that we were hoping for and so far from the statements being made we'll only get a fraction of what we hoped for....

    Another reason why we should simply tell the devs what we as Klingons would like to see now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    moonseye wrote: »
    Another reason why we should simply tell the devs what we as Klingons would like to see now.

    Lol, devs have been told since day 1, the 45 day patch was supposed to bring Klingons up to par with Feds,, didn't happen, same with every other patch after that.

    Dev's don't care about Klinks, it was said even before the game was open beta making klinks playable was an afterthought due to people wanting them to be, and proven as such because in beta all our Huds and stuff was a copy of fed color for color and icon for icon and rewards we couldn't use and vendors asking for fed marks

    Dev's see us as a PVP faction, our only purpose is to fight and die to feds, they gave Feds FvF because there wasn't as many klinks as needed to be

    Heck tier for tier we only have 4 ships, all retrofits of the same before it, BoP, Raptor,Cruzer,Carrier, that's it
    Feds have multiple choices per class (escorts, fleet escort, ect,ect,ect) with diffnt models each class
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Ankah wrote: »
    Lol, devs have been told since day 1, the 45 day patch was supposed to bring Klingons up to par with Feds,, didn't happen, same with every other patch after that.

    Dev's don't care about Klinks, it was said even before the game was open beta making klinks playable was an afterthought due to people wanting them to be, and proven as such because in beta all our Huds and stuff was a copy of fed color for color and icon for icon and rewards we couldn't use and vendors asking for fed marks

    Dev's see us as a PVP faction, our only purpose is to fight and die to feds, they gave Feds FvF because there wasn't as many klinks as needed to be

    Heck tier for tier we only have 4 ships, all retrofits of the same before it, BoP, Raptor,Cruzer,Carrier, that's it
    Feds have multiple choices per class (escorts, fleet escort, ect,ect,ect) with diffnt models each class

    Yeah we been told to bend over and wait for next patch each time now and the 45day joke lol then it was 1.2 and then etc etc why dont the stupid devs just call the game starfleet online and make klingons monster play pr Lord of the rings .... either step up or bail out this flip flopping is just driving customers away.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    tarjan wrote: »
    Yeah we been told to bend over and wait for next patch each time now and the 45day joke lol then it was 1.2 and then etc etc why dont the stupid devs just call the game starfleet online and make klingons monster play pr Lord of the rings .... either step up or bail out this flip flopping is just driving customers away.

    Agreed, which is why I usually only play once or twice a week now for about an hour each, I'd sell the whole account, but a lifetime Borg option STO account is as worthless as this game, I should have quit with everybody else when they were giving refunds to lifetimers
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    tarjan wrote: »
    Yeah we been told to bend over and wait for next patch each time now and the 45day joke lol then it was 1.2 and then etc etc why dont the stupid devs just call the game starfleet online and make klingons monster play pr Lord of the rings .... either step up or bail out this flip flopping is just driving customers away.

    Fully signed, the Devs have long ago betrayed us. When it comes to resubscribe my account I know what I will definitly NOT do.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Dear Cryptic:

    feds get new ships, Klings get a new Carrier, the class almost never seen in PvP.

    Only one thing left to say as a Klingon Player: Good Bye
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I guess the forums will be a nicer place if more whiners leave. Too bad it also means more FvF for me. At least I got the 8 new Klingon missions for myself then.

    Oh, and those weekly episodes. That will be neat, too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I guess the forums will be a nicer place if more whiners leave. Too bad it also means more FvF for me. At least I got the 8 new Klingon missions for myself then.

    Oh, and those weekly episodes. That will be neat, too.

    Well ... You are more than welcome to walk right out of this thread yourself. You will NOT be missed ... I promise you that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I guess the forums will be a nicer place if more whiners leave. Too bad it also means more FvF for me. At least I got the 8 new Klingon missions for myself then.

    Oh, and those weekly episodes. That will be neat, too.

    Additional note ... Yes ... They hand us more missions on the one hand while telling us that even a third faction will be placed on hold until Klingons are equal to the Fed faction yet they are crazy enough to think an additional lesser used carrier will pacify Feds getting those refits.

    Even a petaQ should know that the sums do not equal ... more so when you consider the C-store addition of the Galaxy X ... tossing in how many other options of ships Feds have in game over what we have?

    Don't tell us you are going to make us equal and then keep pushing the other faction forward so it looks like we Klingons are walking backwards in what our faction has.

    And this is not whining ... This is irritation.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sivar wrote: »
    It really is unfair, but it still won't help them. A crappy player is still a crappy player.......

    True.
    I was merely voicing my concerns that the Feds are not being held to the same "cloaking: restrictions as the KLingons must suffer. I wouldn't wan t the Dev's to handicap us even more or try to "help" the Average Fed more.
    From playing with a Gal-X this weekend - the concerns no longer exist.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sivar wrote: »
    It really is unfair, but it still won't help them. A crappy player is still a crappy player.......

    Yes, but that holds true to both sides.
    It time to unhandicap the Klingons so the sides are equally able to have both good and bad players.

    oops doubled.:)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    The retrofit ship thing seems odd to me - I find it hard to believe that these ships will not be massively better in PvP.
    At the very least, Klingons need to get similar options on BO slots, ignoring ship skins. Or maybe just a BoP with 2 universal Cmndr slots.
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