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I Will have the Libarated Borg in the C-Store.
I Have no LTA Pre-Order and now is this one Item that is not possible to become.
The other Items are now also to by in the C-Store
I Have no LTA Pre-Order and now is this one Item that is not possible to become.
The other Items are now also to by in the C-Store
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Ummm.....no the polls do not support the Borg in the C-Store. They may offer it with a LTS, but not in the C-Store it was a pre-launch, limited time exclusive. Their has been polls taken and the numbers do not justify this action.
http://poll.fm/20asl
unrepresentive poll. Why is it unrepresentive? There was no announcement to the community that there was a poll.
As for the lib borg to the c store:
everything else gets there eventually, so will this.
There never is an announcement anymore, they just post them, and anyone who wishes to participate does.
that makes the polls unrepresentative, as i said - aka: worthless.
At the time where this LTA Pre-Order is made I not have the Money to buy one, and now, now no change to become it.
Unrepresentative poll, I've seen many other polls with sometimes up to 95% of the people wanting the borg race added in the c-store, many of these were life time subs that already had the borg char themselves.
As i already said, this poll has been manipulated...
+114 for no and just +4 for yes is a bit unlikely in just ~8 hours.
(Maybe i should try something like an anonymizer or simply wipe my cache and then vote yes a few hundred times?)
The only seriuos Poll would be an *offiicial* 1 Account = 1 Vote Poll.
There's a major flaw in polls: They can be manipulated.
This is especially true with unofficial player-made polls. First off, the wording of both the question and the options (choices) can be twisted to meet what the poll-maker desires the outcome to be. Secondly, unless said poll is done using the "one vote per account" or "one vote per IP address" or "one vote per whatever" without putting some form of limitation on it, then who's to say that one person couldn't be casting a vote 1, 10, or 100 times for the option they want to see.
Considering everything else in being added, that is zero ground to stand on.
Exlcusive means absolutely nothing to Cryptic. In fairness, they need adding.
Polls have not indicated either way, as they've not had any offical ones. That besides, they don't listen anyway, when it comes to $.
Its still funny you try to hold this ground, given you were in support the CO lifetimers being screwed. Extremely two faced.
If they are going to have ANY creditbility, and be able to sell those future lifetime accounts, they will have to keep "Playable borg" exclusive. If they don't every lifetime perk will be gone, and Cryptic will have difficulty promoting lifetime perks on any new game.
For this reason, the "Playable Borg" will most likely not see the C-Store.
As all other "exclusives" have been added, nobody has the justification to insist the Liberated Borg remains limited.
If anything it will be tied to a LTS offer.
You know that is complete bull. We aren't going over this again, but you have been proved to be completely biased (i.e. you wanted the MU uniform, but already have the Borg) and wrong.
The MU uniforms were branded exclusive, just as the Liberated Borg were. They were part of the CO lifetime offer, so yes items have been added to the c-store.
To try an hold onto the Liberated Borg (which I already have myself btw), while others got screwed over and even supported it is completely selfish.
Amen. That's why I'm fine with putting my Borg captain up for sale.
Nothing you have stated is factual, and your opinion as to my bias is incorrect also. MU=unique, not exclusive.
Liberated Borg= limited time, prelaunch LTS "exclusive". If it is brought back it will be tied to the LTS, not the C-Store. It is was pivotal in the purchase of many prelaunch investors, and would sell more LTS. I doubt it will be back Q recently commented their were no plans to put it in the C-Store.
To my knowledge non of the actual "exclusive" have been added to the CO C-Store, that is not bull, it is a reality.
At this point my logic has been sound, and I have been correct in my assessments, and I hear opposition to factual reality?
Please stop using the terms "exclusive", "unique", etc. They are open to interpretation as has been pointed out many times by lots of people. Just seeing those words make my head hurt. The point is that there are people who have been wronged (another term open to interpretation) and things should be made right (another term open to interpretation) one way or another.
I won't be surprised if the Liberated Borg captain is put up on the C-Store eventually (probably in a week or a month or at the end of the year, who knows?) because people will want it up there, polls be damned. Is it right (open to interpretation)? No. Is it fair (open to interpretation)? I think so.
And if you must quote polls, only quote the "official" Cryptic ones. I hate seeing those fan-made ones cited over and over as they are as biased as you appear to be (again...open to interpretation).
polls are usually announced to the people that are supposed to vote.
your right about this having been gone over and over again. However, the word "exclusive" was used ONE TIME regarding MU, and that was in an informal online chat with a now-dismissed employee. The official posting by Cryptic used "UNIQUE" with regard to the MU Uniform.
PROOF: Date: 8-4-09, Author: Daeke, Cryptic Studios Team
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=24059
If you keep repeating something that is false, someone may believe you....
They were supposed to be exclusive to preorder lifer, and we must keep them exclusive. The lifers should deserve to have their exclusives.
http://www.champions-online.com/archive?page=29
and here...
http://www.champions-online.com/exclusive_specials
Anyway it doesn't matter anymore. The hate for me is just about gone about the MU C-Store fiasco. Probably won't buy anything in the C-Store ever again but at least I can start playing STO without feeling the NERD RAGE. Love Star Trek too much to let this get to me.
Liberated Borg on the C-Store... at this point who cares... have your Borg if you want it. :cool:
Now if you only got the lifetime sub so you could feel special I feel sorry for you. Keeping people paying is more important then your feelings. Your borg captain is worthless if the game goes under.
Masses of liberated Borg would be stupid since in Trek lore it is an increadibly "rare" occurance.
We don't need more borg wannabe's running around everywhere.
That reason alone is good enough not to add them.
Oh yes, and having tons of people running around in MU uniforms is way more plausible since clothing can be replicated without issue.
Never a good idea to justify Cryptic's action to the canonical lore in Star Trek. Cryptic thinks that there should be more Galaxy-X cruisers cruising around the galaxy than the number of liberated borgs (soon).
If you think introducing liberated borgs in C-Store is "stupid" because it's a "rare" occurrence is a pretty laughable argument. How do you justify the liberated borg BOs that almost every players have? How do you justify possibly hundreds/thousands of Galaxy-X to be commissioned soon (which shouldn't even exist in this universe)? Cryptic has contradicted the Star Trek canonical lore numerous times.. flirted with them and molded them to their likings. What makes you think the liberated borg deserves a special treatment? It doesn't matter if it's a sash or a playable race.
If you think the Liberated Borg should remain only to the Pre-Order Lifetime subscribers, then you need a better argument than that..... lol.
So please all Liberated borg must Deleted and only a very very very very rar chars can be one of this.
The same is with the Galaxy-X and with so many soverigns, Joid Trill and and and.
So STO can't do it canon or reality.
And why not? The User they have by this LTA in the PRE-Order time they have it, ok it is not a exclusiv but when i logon to the Universe i see so manny LTA user so it is not realy exclusiv at this time.
I'm not convinced the Galaxy X shouldn't exist in this story, I know it's an alternate time line and all, but that doesn't mean nothing from that time line is able to happen in Prime. Hell gordi got his eyes fixed in both time lines no one complains about that. I just think the Galaxy X is a reasonable refit concept and there's no reason for them not to build it.
Oh of course. It's more than likely that a ship of similar design exists. I just brought up the Galaxy-X controversy to point out that Cryptic does not conform 100% to the canonical Star Trek and it just doesn't make any sense that the # of the Liberated Borgs should be kept in check while something rarer and astronomically more expensive (yes, the Galaxy-X), should be in wider circulation. If the poster that I am referring to still wants to be adamant about why the Liberated Borg should remain exclusive to the Pre-Order lifestime subscribers only, he should come up with a better argument.
"It doesn't conform to the "real" Star Trek lore!!!!" just does not cut it. This is Cryptic's universe and it already bended lots and lots of Star Trek lores. There's no reason why the Liberated Borg is any different than the Galaxy-X. After all, the poster was against the Galaxy-X remaining exclusive only to the recruiters.
I say that's a pretty selfish thing. Don't you agree? :rolleyes:
I want to make another Engineer, and I like the Borg
And it is pretty funny to see people say no the Liberated Borg comming to Cstore because they have it, but they did want the MU uniform and the Galaxy X because they don't have it.