It's not that he made a joke, I get that and I moved on, then he propagated it so much it became a frickin meme and a signature. I don't think all donuts are mocking me ,just the meme he propagated into existence. I suppose though that the quotes I showed were not proof enough. It must be frickin coincidence that he propagated a line of jokes on my analogy about a subject then moved to another thread on the same subject and started again. Its like saying that the "In The Flesh" episode is not related to "Scorpion" episode.
How many people have to show you that you are incorrect before you finally believe them?
How many people have to show you that you are incorrect before you finally believe them?
Give it up. I'm the one that made the post, and even though that makes me the total arbiter of whether or not I was mocking him, he won't listen to me when I say I wasn't. He won't even accept a gift.
bears
Winnebagos
the word "pathetic"
the words "unemployed" and "jobless"
any mention of previous mockery
burgers and/or french fries
the use of logic
any suggestion that you may not be as entitled as you think
historical precedent
Where did I say I found bears, winnebagos, historical precedent, burgers and/or french fries, the use of logic, or any suggestion that you may not be as entitled as you think. Also your frickin straight I got angry about the guy made a joke about my Dad losing his job.
Give it up. I'm the one that made the post, and even though that makes me the total arbiter of whether or not I was mocking him, he won't listen to me when I say I wasn't. He won't even accept a gift.
Yes because, its not like you could lie or anything, oh wait... yeah you can.
Where did I say I found bears, winnebagos, historical precedent, burgers and/or french fries, the use of logic, or any suggestion that you may not be as entitled as you think. Also your frickin straight I got angry about the guy made a joke about my Dad losing his job.
See? add "making lists" to the lists of things that are offensive.
Give it up. I'm the one that made the post, and even though that makes me the total arbiter of whether or not I was mocking him, he won't listen to me when I say I wasn't. He won't even accept a gift.
Yes because, its not like you could lie or anything, oh wait... yeah you can.
Why would I lie? What possible reason do I have to lie about that? If I were mocking you, I would've told you if for no other reason than to mock you further.
You've spent this whole debate taking everything and anything personally and then whining constantly about it. Not everything is about you, please understand that.
All joking aside, I hope your father quickly finds new employment. It's a very stressful situation.
I hope you take my suggestion that you pause a moment before sharing personal information in a public forum; and to especially avoid including personal circumstances within your argument's framework.
Once you include a personal circumstance it becomes fair game, and is actually called a Galileo Argument, or an appeal to sympathy, which is considered a fallacious argument.
Regardless of your intended use, its how it will be responded to in context to your overall argument.
Again, I hope your father quickly finds employment.
I wasn't using it as a sympathy comment, I was trying to state why I did not and do not support Obama. I should of seen that people on the forums have no civility at all, that was my fault.
Why would I lie? What possible reason do I have to lie about that? If I were mocking you, I would've told you if for no other reason than to mock you further.
You've spent this whole debate taking everything and anything personally and then whining constantly about it. Not everything is about you, please understand that.
People are usually unwilling to tell people they lied, not only would this make everyone who has been mocking me wrong but it would prove you wrong, something most if not all people are unwilling to do. The mockery can continue if you continue to lie, but if you were to admit wrongness most of the others would be mocking me as well, which make them wrong. You lying makes me the one being targeted and all your friends here right, so what possible way could make not lying beneficial to you?
Secondly, I do not take much personally. I've been called unreasonable, an idiot, and many other things with little to no response in these forums. I've only been continuing the donut thing because it is a continued mockery of me. I am not offended by stupidity, otherwise I would not come here or live in this ountry.
I am not offended by stupidity, otherwise I would not come here or live in this ountry.
Are you mocking my ountry? What does my ountry have to do with it? I am very proud to live in this ountry.
I know people who have fought and died for this ountry, and you are mocking their sacrifice by calling it stupid. I am deeply offended by your elitist attitude, and you owe me, and everyone else who lives in this great ountry, an apology.
People are usually unwilling to tell people they lied, not only would this make everyone who has been mocking me wrong but it would prove you wrong, something most if not all people are unwilling to do. The mockery can continue if you continue to lie, but if you were to admit wrongness most of the others would be mocking me as well, which make them wrong. You lying makes me the one being targeted and all your friends here right, so what possible way could make not lying beneficial to you?
Secondly, I do not take much personally. I've been called unreasonable, an idiot, and many other things with little to no response in these forums. I've only been continuing the donut thing because it is a continued mockery of me. I am not offended by stupidity, otherwise I would not come here or live in this ountry.
The. donut. thing. has. nothing. to. do. with. you.
Everyone else has told you as much. I, as the originator, have told you as much. Now you can either accept that, or you can continue on with this narcissistic belief that anyone here thinks of you every time someone says something about a donut.
The. donut. thing. has. nothing. to. do. with. you.
Everyone else has told you as much. I, as the originator, have told you as much. Now you can either accept that, or you can continue on with this narcissistic belief that anyone here thinks of you every time someone says something about a donut.
I would agree, but I am offended by the word "successful."
Well, he's managed, through dozens and dozens of posts, to keep multiple threads about the same 'issue' going for nearly a week, despite not really having any points to argue after the first post. From a trolling perspective, that's success.
I think we can all agree that Cpt.William2 is the most successful troll in this board's short history.
So say we all!
Seeing as I've only been in a few threads only for a few days, that is an incorrect statement. I have merely stated my opinion, argued when people disagreed, and kindly asked people to stop mocking/insulting people. Yes, I have at points insulted and called people names, that is why I apologized several times. Cause I am big enough to admit when I am wrong.
Where did I say I found bears, winnebagos, historical precedent, burgers and/or french fries, the use of logic, or any suggestion that you may not be as entitled as you think. Also your frickin straight I got angry about the guy made a joke about my Dad losing his job.
That was me
It was wrong of me
I apologised
You forgave
We moved on
No mockery was made in relation to it
May I ask Wills, are you very young? An awful lot of stuff seems to go over your head, and you seem offended by the smallest things, mostly through you not understanding the intent of what's said. Come to think of it, that kind of sums up your position in the entire debate.
That was me
It was wrong of me
I apologised
You forgave
We moved on
No mockery was made in relation to it
May I ask Wills, are you very young? An awful lot of stuff seems to go over your head, and you seem offended by the smallest things, mostly through you not understanding the intent of what's said. Come to think of it, that kind of sums up your position in the entire debate.
No, I am not, what stuff goes over my head, exactly? And its not small things if it were, I would explode at the idiot and unreasonable comments I get. I exploded at 1) a mockery that became a meme that I never got an apology for, 2) a joke bout my Father being laid off, 3) a insinuation that every racist lives in my state, 4) insinuation I am like a two foot demented gray hobbit. I don't get insulted easily, but sometimes a joke goes too far, especially amongst people that get upset they can't shove their opinion down another's throat.
Well, he's managed, through dozens and dozens of posts, to keep multiple threads about the same 'issue' going for nearly a week, despite not really having any points to argue after the first post. From a trolling perspective, that's success.
Oh, I agree, but you missed my William-like point: the word "successful" is in-itself offensive, and you have done me harm by using it. I am entitled to compensation.
By the way, speaking of compensation: LotD owes you an exclusive doughnut for going head-to-head with captain hairsplitter last night. Your resilience is astounding.
No, I am not, what stuff goes over my head, exactly? And its not small things if it were, I would explode at the idiot and unreasonable comments I get. I exploded at 1) a mockery that became a meme that I never got an apology for, 2) a joke bout my Father being laid off, 3) a insinuation that every racist lives in my state, 4) insinuation I am like a two foot demented gray hobbit. I don't get insulted easily, but sometimes a joke goes too far, especially amongst people that get upset they can't shove their opinion down another's throat.
Perhaps "over your head" was the wrong choice of phrase. You seem to display an innocence that isn't often found on an internet forum.
The donut thing is not a meme. Some may want it to be, but it isn't. It is a mockery though, of an analogy you made that made more sense when turned back against the argument you used it for. That's where it comes from, and believe me, it can happen to us all. Don't take it so personally. You put it out there, it backfired and it'll go away soon. I don't get why you want an apology for it though.
The joke I made had nothing to do with your father. I've already said it didn't. I happened to read whatever it was you posted, right at the same point I was watching that episode of South Park. Nothing more. Yes, it was inadvertantly in poor taste, and I acknowledged your offense to it, but here we are again still going over it.
I don't think LOTD meant his joke about Texas the way you think he did, and he explained himself anyway.
And the Golem thing? Come on, it was a generral point of view put forward that those clinging desperately to their explusives were like Golem guarding his precious. You may take it to heart because you're one of them, but don't try and skew it with wording that makes it sound like a personal insult.
This is canteen culture. We all say things that might come back to haunt us, but you seem to have taken building giant size molehills to a fine art.
Anyway, I only even posted in here because I saw you mention my joke about the job loss again.
Perhaps "over your head" was the wrong choice of phrase. You seem to display an innocence that isn't often found on an internet forum.
The donut thing is not a meme. Some may want it to be, but it isn't. It is a mockery though, of an analogy you made that made more sense when turned back against the argument you used it for. That's where it comes from, and believe me, it can happen to us all. Don't take it so personally. You put it out there, it backfired and it'll go away soon. I don't get why you want an apology for it though.
The joke I made had nothing to do with your father. I've already said it didn't. I happened to read whatever it was you posted, right at the same point I was watching that episode of South Park. Nothing more. Yes, it was inadvertantly in poor taste, and I acknowledged your offense to it, but here we are again still going over it.
I don't think LOTD meant his joke about Texas the way you think he did, and he explained himself anyway.
And the Golem thing? Come on, it was a generral point of view put forward that those clinging desperately to their explusives were like Golem guarding his precious. You may take it to heart because you're one of them, but don't try and skew it with wording that makes it sound like a personal insult.
This is canteen culture. We all say things that might come back to haunt us, but you seem to have taken building giant size molehills to a fine art.
Anyway, I only even posted in here because I saw you mention my joke about the job loss again.
Just because someone does not think about the implications of a joke, does not make it right. If he simply said, I'm sorry, I wouldn't mind. But to act as if he did nothing wrong ticks me off. I guess I was just hoping for civility and common courtesy, too much I guess for this crowd.
Perhaps "over your head" was the wrong choice of phrase. You seem to display an innocence that isn't often found on an internet forum.
The donut thing is not a meme. Some may want it to be, but it isn't. It is a mockery though, of an analogy you made that made more sense when turned back against the argument you used it for. That's where it comes from, and believe me, it can happen to us all. Don't take it so personally. You put it out there, it backfired and it'll go away soon. I don't get why you want an apology for it though.
The joke I made had nothing to do with your father. I've already said it didn't. I happened to read whatever it was you posted, right at the same point I was watching that episode of South Park. Nothing more. Yes, it was inadvertantly in poor taste, and I acknowledged your offense to it, but here we are again still going over it.
I don't think LOTD meant his joke about Texas the way you think he did, and he explained himself anyway.
And the Golem thing? Come on, it was a generral point of view put forward that those clinging desperately to their explusives were like Golem guarding his precious. You may take it to heart because you're one of them, but don't try and skew it with wording that makes it sound like a personal insult.
This is canteen culture. We all say things that might come back to haunt us, but you seem to have taken building giant size molehills to a fine art.
Anyway, I only even posted in here because I saw you mention my joke about the job loss again.
Please don't encourage him. The donut meme is entirely separate from me mocking his ridiculous arguments. It may not be a meme that lasts, but it is a meme just the same.
Please don't encourage him. The donut meme is entirely separate from me mocking his ridiculous arguments. It may not be a meme that lasts, but it is a meme just the same.
Ok you can have your meme. It's exclusive though, so don't go taking it to any other forums. It's been bought and paid for in hard fought debate by the STO community and will not be offered elsewhere
You know what guys, I'm sorry for asking for a little bit of civility and common courtesy, and to think I though maybe ya'll were capable of that. Well, obviously not, I'll see you round the game when they actually fix its problem instead of distracting everyone from how crappy they are with fluff on the C-Store. I guess I'll just have to come in to the threads and expect nothing from ya'll but ridicule and disrespect. I'm sure Gene Roddenberry would be proud.
Just because someone does not think about the implications of a joke, does not make it right.
Actually, it does, but the word you want is "justified." If I am unaware of your situation, and make a joke that coincidentally pokes fun at your personal situation, thereby hurting your feelings, you cannot claim that I intended to harm you, or that you are owed an apology.
However, if I do apologize, it is a matter of common courtesy and respect, but I am in no way obligated to do so. In the same way, you are not justified in continuing to return to that event in order to claim some sort of damage.
You know what guys, I'm sorry for asking for a little bit of civility and common courtesy, and to think I though maybe ya'll were capable of that. Well, obviously not, I'll see you round the game when they actually fix its problem instead of distracting everyone from how crappy they are with fluff on the C-Store. I guess I'll just have to come in to the threads and expect nothing from ya'll but ridicule and disrespect. I'm sure Gene Roddenberry would be proud.
You know what guys, I'm sorry for asking for a little bit of civility and common courtesy, and to think I though maybe ya'll were capable of that. Well, obviously not, I'll see you round the game when they actually fix its problem instead of distracting everyone from how crappy they are with fluff on the C-Store. I guess I'll just have to come in to the threads and expect nothing from ya'll but ridicule and disrespect. I'm sure Gene Roddenberry would be proud.
Oh, so now you're down to recycling last night's "taking his ball and going home" speech?
Ok, I'll reply by recycling my response from last night:
"Oh, the Roddenberrys! Won't somebody please think of the Roddenberrys?!"
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How many people have to show you that you are incorrect before you finally believe them?
Technically, all of them. But then they would be lying.
Give it up. I'm the one that made the post, and even though that makes me the total arbiter of whether or not I was mocking him, he won't listen to me when I say I wasn't. He won't even accept a gift.
Where did I say I found bears, winnebagos, historical precedent, burgers and/or french fries, the use of logic, or any suggestion that you may not be as entitled as you think. Also your frickin straight I got angry about the guy made a joke about my Dad losing his job.
Many probably told Galileo the same thing. Secondly, I have already proven myself correct. Read the quotes.
Yes because, its not like you could lie or anything, oh wait... yeah you can.
Also, yes, I am frickin' straight.
Well, Galileo was obviously wrong, because the Earth appears to revolve around you.
Dude, I did read the quotes. You really are narcissistic and a egotist and an elitist.
Ya, I should just give up. He won't listen.
Why would I lie? What possible reason do I have to lie about that? If I were mocking you, I would've told you if for no other reason than to mock you further.
You've spent this whole debate taking everything and anything personally and then whining constantly about it. Not everything is about you, please understand that.
I wasn't using it as a sympathy comment, I was trying to state why I did not and do not support Obama. I should of seen that people on the forums have no civility at all, that was my fault.
In what way? Explain to me how those quotes prove I am any one of those things, which I am not?
People are usually unwilling to tell people they lied, not only would this make everyone who has been mocking me wrong but it would prove you wrong, something most if not all people are unwilling to do. The mockery can continue if you continue to lie, but if you were to admit wrongness most of the others would be mocking me as well, which make them wrong. You lying makes me the one being targeted and all your friends here right, so what possible way could make not lying beneficial to you?
Secondly, I do not take much personally. I've been called unreasonable, an idiot, and many other things with little to no response in these forums. I've only been continuing the donut thing because it is a continued mockery of me. I am not offended by stupidity, otherwise I would not come here or live in this ountry.
Are you mocking my ountry? What does my ountry have to do with it? I am very proud to live in this ountry.
I know people who have fought and died for this ountry, and you are mocking their sacrifice by calling it stupid. I am deeply offended by your elitist attitude, and you owe me, and everyone else who lives in this great ountry, an apology.
The. donut. thing. has. nothing. to. do. with. you.
Everyone else has told you as much. I, as the originator, have told you as much. Now you can either accept that, or you can continue on with this narcissistic belief that anyone here thinks of you every time someone says something about a donut.
This is obviously a lie.
Either they will do nothing or they will give out C-store credit to the folks
that bought the game with exclusives.
If your looking for cash back....it will not happen.
So say we all!
I would agree, but I am offended by the word "successful."
Well, he's managed, through dozens and dozens of posts, to keep multiple threads about the same 'issue' going for nearly a week, despite not really having any points to argue after the first post. From a trolling perspective, that's success.
Seeing as I've only been in a few threads only for a few days, that is an incorrect statement. I have merely stated my opinion, argued when people disagreed, and kindly asked people to stop mocking/insulting people. Yes, I have at points insulted and called people names, that is why I apologized several times. Cause I am big enough to admit when I am wrong.
That was me
It was wrong of me
I apologised
You forgave
We moved on
No mockery was made in relation to it
May I ask Wills, are you very young? An awful lot of stuff seems to go over your head, and you seem offended by the smallest things, mostly through you not understanding the intent of what's said. Come to think of it, that kind of sums up your position in the entire debate.
" if you can't support your argument...attack the poster "
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No, I am not, what stuff goes over my head, exactly? And its not small things if it were, I would explode at the idiot and unreasonable comments I get. I exploded at 1) a mockery that became a meme that I never got an apology for, 2) a joke bout my Father being laid off, 3) a insinuation that every racist lives in my state, 4) insinuation I am like a two foot demented gray hobbit. I don't get insulted easily, but sometimes a joke goes too far, especially amongst people that get upset they can't shove their opinion down another's throat.
Oh, I agree, but you missed my William-like point: the word "successful" is in-itself offensive, and you have done me harm by using it. I am entitled to compensation.
By the way, speaking of compensation: LotD owes you an exclusive doughnut for going head-to-head with captain hairsplitter last night. Your resilience is astounding.
Perhaps "over your head" was the wrong choice of phrase. You seem to display an innocence that isn't often found on an internet forum.
The donut thing is not a meme. Some may want it to be, but it isn't. It is a mockery though, of an analogy you made that made more sense when turned back against the argument you used it for. That's where it comes from, and believe me, it can happen to us all. Don't take it so personally. You put it out there, it backfired and it'll go away soon. I don't get why you want an apology for it though.
The joke I made had nothing to do with your father. I've already said it didn't. I happened to read whatever it was you posted, right at the same point I was watching that episode of South Park. Nothing more. Yes, it was inadvertantly in poor taste, and I acknowledged your offense to it, but here we are again still going over it.
I don't think LOTD meant his joke about Texas the way you think he did, and he explained himself anyway.
And the Golem thing? Come on, it was a generral point of view put forward that those clinging desperately to their explusives were like Golem guarding his precious. You may take it to heart because you're one of them, but don't try and skew it with wording that makes it sound like a personal insult.
This is canteen culture. We all say things that might come back to haunt us, but you seem to have taken building giant size molehills to a fine art.
Anyway, I only even posted in here because I saw you mention my joke about the job loss again.
Just because someone does not think about the implications of a joke, does not make it right. If he simply said, I'm sorry, I wouldn't mind. But to act as if he did nothing wrong ticks me off. I guess I was just hoping for civility and common courtesy, too much I guess for this crowd.
Please don't encourage him. The donut meme is entirely separate from me mocking his ridiculous arguments. It may not be a meme that lasts, but it is a meme just the same.
Ok you can have your meme. It's exclusive though, so don't go taking it to any other forums. It's been bought and paid for in hard fought debate by the STO community and will not be offered elsewhere
Actually, it does, but the word you want is "justified." If I am unaware of your situation, and make a joke that coincidentally pokes fun at your personal situation, thereby hurting your feelings, you cannot claim that I intended to harm you, or that you are owed an apology.
However, if I do apologize, it is a matter of common courtesy and respect, but I am in no way obligated to do so. In the same way, you are not justified in continuing to return to that event in order to claim some sort of damage.
Well put.
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Oh, so now you're down to recycling last night's "taking his ball and going home" speech?
Ok, I'll reply by recycling my response from last night:
"Oh, the Roddenberrys! Won't somebody please think of the Roddenberrys?!"