Funny, i found out today that Orions actually HAVE Exclusive clothes. FOR MALE. I mean the only race almost NOBODY plays male gets exclusives for male, brilliant.
I've seen Orion males about, and I plan to make one eventually. All in due time really. I would like to see more options available on the klingon side of things, both in spaceship skins for the races, and female options (as well as more male costume options). For clarification on Orions, they also have those cybernetic parts available for the head as well. It would be nice if we could get all the racial costume options, and even 'skins' to suit the various KDF class of ships.
Actually I wouldn't mind this on Federation side either. Might be fun to fly a Vulcan-styled vessel, or a Andorian one.
Whoever earlier said that Klingon females don't look different than the males, obviously didn't see the major curves some of those klingons have. THey're just like humans, but they have sharp teeth, and ridges. They're like neanderthals really, but they still have gender distinctions... Sheesh.
I hate it how KDF females are completely broken.
Unless you choose alien female you cant even remove the ugly collar.
I wish we weren't all forced to wear the collar. Male or Female. I recently made a Joined Trill captain, and the collar doesn't really suit him. I was able to make him pretty decent overall though, with the use of TOS style clothing.
I play a Lethean because he looks canon. From my favourite species (those available in the game), Letheans are the closest to canon. Ferengi have wrong traits and don't belong in the Fed faction; Nausicaans simply look wrong and the super-limited customization doesn't let me make them look right. Not even close to right.
I agree. I love the way Letheans look. They have such an awesome style about them. I wish their rapture ability was not interruptible. Especially considering how long the recharge was. That aside I've made 2 Letheans, just because I like their style.
While I 100% agree that there should be female gorn/Nausican/lethian you have to understand that unlike CO where we own the property and can make stuff up at the end of the day CBS still owns STO and gets to call the shots.
Now I am not a programmer or a marketing guy so I don't know exactly what kind of hoops we had to jump through but I do know that inventing female tellerites was not fast or easy. We had to keep redesigning them until CBS was happy with it, and then we were able to put them in.
Also it is true that the "ugly" female races are the least played in STO. So while I would love to have them (says the GM who doesn't make stuff ) we would be jumping through a lot of hoops to invent 3 new models that very few people (if any) would actually use.
Now I can't say it will never happen (I hope we get them in some day) but there is no ETA on it.
And for the record Kestral (One of the writers) is a big advocate for more shoes. So there is someone who is on your side
Thanks for the info Indigo! I hadn't looked at this post in a while, but it was one of the things that I was hoping see change. I didn't realize it was a CBS approval issue, which I suppose is logical given the lack of air-time for Nausicaan females. Speaking of which, I'd really LOVE it if we got the Frazzled Hobo hairstyle for Nausicaans. I don't know if that's what you should call it, but that's what it looks like to me. Lots of Nausicaans in the show had that wildman hair, like they hadn't bathed in months. Hair options in general would be great. Mohawks for one would be really cool. Buzzcuts, Samurai topknots, etc.
Not really... in reality the KDF is a loose grouping of assets provided by the Houses of the Empire... the Klingon Empire is a feudal state so I rather doubt there is any uniform code.
Well, I think each House and actually Individual Captains would define the Uniform code of their House/Ship. Particularly in a Feudal society you'd have each Lord setting up a banner to represent his group, and uniforms appropriately.
What would these pads be called? I tried on all available at the tailor, but didn't see any that my Lethean doesn't have. Or how do these Orion pads look like? Is it any of these?
Actually I have no Idea because i dont have an Orion char myself. But the Shoulder pats look better then any Klingon pads.
But they also have that plates on the head exclusive, and nausicans havs those masks.Those would be really cool for other Races espacially my "Alien"^^
But no, after giving us almost no clothes they made some parts exclusive too. Again: Genius.
How about facing the clothes issue before working on the Galaxy X or EVEN Klingon story missions wich are done after an hour?
Actually I have no Idea because i dont have an Orion char myself. But the Shoulder pats look better then any Klingon pads.
But they also have that plates on the head exclusive, and nausicans havs those masks.Those would be really cool for other Races espacially my "Alien"^^
But no, after giving us almost no clothes they made some parts exclusive too. Again: Genius.
How about facing the clothes issue before working on the Galaxy X or EVEN Klingon story missions wich are done after an hour?
I have a male Orion and a Nausicaan.
The only thing the Orion has is the metal plates. But that's the ONLY option in 'hair', so I can take them or leave them. Its ok, male Orions are usually bald, but I wouldn't really call it 'extra clothing option'. Nausicaans have 2 hairstyle options or bald, all of that sucks and looks wrong, but its still more than the Orions have.
Nausicaans have the Hannibal Lector mask that would clearly be better in the alien options, because this mask covers the only other 'extra'; the 2 different tusks. Its either one or another, and whatever you take, you still don't look like a Nausicaan because you are either bald or wear dreadlocks.
The point that we as players can't wear the NPC clothes because NPCs have limited animations and all... I don't really get it. The mobs in Fed exploration do wear the same as the NPCs (Orion bikini or that harness thingy and shirtless; Nausicaans some combination of the patched pants and NPC tops, Dahar Masters and Swordmasters the coats...) and they fight - with the same animations as any player character fights. They ahve weapon animations, confuse/placate/hold animations/stances, they can fall, run, jump... What exactly is it that a player does and no NPC mob does? Sit on a chair? I think I could live with a little clipping there.
The only thing the Orion has is the metal plates. But that's the ONLY option in 'hair', so I can take them or leave them. Its ok, male Orions are usually bald, but I wouldn't really call it 'extra clothing option'. Nausicaans have 2 hairstyle options or bald, all of that sucks and looks wrong, but its still more than the Orions have.
Nausicaans have the Hannibal Lector mask that would clearly be better in the alien options, because this mask covers the only other 'extra'; the 2 different tusks. Its either one or another, and whatever you take, you still don't look like a Nausicaan because you are either bald or wear dreadlocks.
The point that we as players can't wear the NPC clothes because NPCs have limited animations and all... I don't really get it. The mobs in Fed exploration do wear the same as the NPCs (Orion bikini or that harness thingy and shirtless; Nausicaans some combination of the patched pants and NPC tops, Dahar Masters and Swordmasters the coats...) and they fight - with the same animations as any player character fights. They ahve weapon animations, confuse/placate/hold animations/stances, they can fall, run, jump... What exactly is it that a player does and no NPC mob does? Sit on a chair? I think I could live with a little clipping there.
Yeah they lack of other Options, true. But why not making those things availabe for all, especially for aliens?
An Officer with that Nausican Mask and that metal plates would be, in my Opinion, really cool^^. Could be Kind of an Android or a crippled Veteran wich needs that poteens to survive. (Borg parts would be cool for that, too but those we have just for the Borg-Bo....)
The metal plates... Na, they should be Orion exclusive. Honestly its the only thing male Orions have, except the myth of the shoulder armor.
But the mask, yes, make it available for aliens. Nausicaans can select 2 different versions of teeth, I don't even know why I would want that mask to cover them. I'm sure aliens or other species could put them to better use.
Why should it?
What do Orion Females have exclusive? What have Klingons have unique?
On fed side, what has ANY Species has unique, beside the Ferengie?
After the costumisation is ALREADY that limited it shouldnt be even MORE limited by species exclusives.
Funny thing again, may be off topic, we Klingons also got worse BO KI.
I found out that the Fed BOs move completly diffrent in many details.
It's not that the devs hate female Klingons. It's just they hate the Klingon Faction in general. Why do you think things are the way they are, and will be in the future?
Benzites have their respirator device as option, and only they. You can make a Benzite-looking alien on both sides, but not with this item. And that is perfectly fine, because I'm tired of aliens resembling a playable species for the sake of 4 selectable skills. (You are certainly an exception, as you play a human in the KDF. That's not my issue, my issue is playing a Klingon-looking alien in the KDF, with 4 space traits and such.)
I 'give away' the Nausicaan mask so freely because its not the only thing they have, and the mask has much more different uses for other species than the tusks.
I also think each species should have at least 1 unique option that is related to their culture. Means sashes for Klingons only, not for Orions, Gorn and everyone else. No bikinis for female Klingons and Trill, only for Orions. Reward players for picking a canon species, not punish them by limiting their trait choices.
No I dont like that exclusivness. It limits options, but Sto should enlarge options.
I don't either. Instead of restricting the alien editor, make the set racial traits more desirable, useful, or unique to that race (Gorn bite, Lethean Rapture)
I agree that the females in the KDF really need some attention...
Something I think your missing is that the three male restricted races might not allow female warriors... Before the "/gasp how sexist" responses, you are all looking through modern century human glasses. Consider our own history, even today women are restricted in front line combat rolls... Who's to say that the gorn would even allow a female to pick up a weapon instead of raising the eggs? Or the nausucans might view their women as property/slaves. One must consider all the posibilities not just what we live with... Just my two cents.
And please devs pass some love our way... The Feds really have more then they can handle at the moment any way...
I also think each species should have at least 1 unique option that is related to their culture. Means sashes for Klingons only, not for Orions, Gorn and everyone else. No bikinis for female Klingons and Trill, only for Orions. Reward players for picking a canon species, not punish them by limiting their trait choices.
I agree generally on all those points but the sashes are just rank insignia.
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I've seen Orion males about, and I plan to make one eventually. All in due time really. I would like to see more options available on the klingon side of things, both in spaceship skins for the races, and female options (as well as more male costume options). For clarification on Orions, they also have those cybernetic parts available for the head as well. It would be nice if we could get all the racial costume options, and even 'skins' to suit the various KDF class of ships.
Actually I wouldn't mind this on Federation side either. Might be fun to fly a Vulcan-styled vessel, or a Andorian one.
Whoever earlier said that Klingon females don't look different than the males, obviously didn't see the major curves some of those klingons have. THey're just like humans, but they have sharp teeth, and ridges. They're like neanderthals really, but they still have gender distinctions... Sheesh.
I wish we weren't all forced to wear the collar. Male or Female. I recently made a Joined Trill captain, and the collar doesn't really suit him. I was able to make him pretty decent overall though, with the use of TOS style clothing.
I agree. I love the way Letheans look. They have such an awesome style about them. I wish their rapture ability was not interruptible. Especially considering how long the recharge was. That aside I've made 2 Letheans, just because I like their style.
Thanks for the info Indigo!
Well, I think each House and actually Individual Captains would define the Uniform code of their House/Ship. Particularly in a Feudal society you'd have each Lord setting up a banner to represent his group, and uniforms appropriately.
Actually I have no Idea because i dont have an Orion char myself. But the Shoulder pats look better then any Klingon pads.
But they also have that plates on the head exclusive, and nausicans havs those masks.Those would be really cool for other Races espacially my "Alien"^^
But no, after giving us almost no clothes they made some parts exclusive too. Again: Genius.
How about facing the clothes issue before working on the Galaxy X or EVEN Klingon story missions wich are done after an hour?
I have a male Orion and a Nausicaan.
The only thing the Orion has is the metal plates. But that's the ONLY option in 'hair', so I can take them or leave them. Its ok, male Orions are usually bald, but I wouldn't really call it 'extra clothing option'. Nausicaans have 2 hairstyle options or bald, all of that sucks and looks wrong, but its still more than the Orions have.
Nausicaans have the Hannibal Lector mask that would clearly be better in the alien options, because this mask covers the only other 'extra'; the 2 different tusks. Its either one or another, and whatever you take, you still don't look like a Nausicaan because you are either bald or wear dreadlocks.
The point that we as players can't wear the NPC clothes because NPCs have limited animations and all... I don't really get it. The mobs in Fed exploration do wear the same as the NPCs (Orion bikini or that harness thingy and shirtless; Nausicaans some combination of the patched pants and NPC tops, Dahar Masters and Swordmasters the coats...) and they fight - with the same animations as any player character fights. They ahve weapon animations, confuse/placate/hold animations/stances, they can fall, run, jump... What exactly is it that a player does and no NPC mob does? Sit on a chair? I think I could live with a little clipping there.
Yeah they lack of other Options, true. But why not making those things availabe for all, especially for aliens?
An Officer with that Nausican Mask and that metal plates would be, in my Opinion, really cool^^. Could be Kind of an Android or a crippled Veteran wich needs that poteens to survive. (Borg parts would be cool for that, too but those we have just for the Borg-Bo....)
But the mask, yes, make it available for aliens. Nausicaans can select 2 different versions of teeth, I don't even know why I would want that mask to cover them. I'm sure aliens or other species could put them to better use.
What do Orion Females have exclusive? What have Klingons have unique?
On fed side, what has ANY Species has unique, beside the Ferengie?
After the costumisation is ALREADY that limited it shouldnt be even MORE limited by species exclusives.
Funny thing again, may be off topic, we Klingons also got worse BO KI.
I found out that the Fed BOs move completly diffrent in many details.
Benzites have their respirator device as option, and only they. You can make a Benzite-looking alien on both sides, but not with this item. And that is perfectly fine, because I'm tired of aliens resembling a playable species for the sake of 4 selectable skills. (You are certainly an exception, as you play a human in the KDF. That's not my issue, my issue is playing a Klingon-looking alien in the KDF, with 4 space traits and such.)
I 'give away' the Nausicaan mask so freely because its not the only thing they have, and the mask has much more different uses for other species than the tusks.
I also think each species should have at least 1 unique option that is related to their culture. Means sashes for Klingons only, not for Orions, Gorn and everyone else. No bikinis for female Klingons and Trill, only for Orions. Reward players for picking a canon species, not punish them by limiting their trait choices.
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I don't either. Instead of restricting the alien editor, make the set racial traits more desirable, useful, or unique to that race (Gorn bite, Lethean Rapture)
Something I think your missing is that the three male restricted races might not allow female warriors... Before the "/gasp how sexist" responses, you are all looking through modern century human glasses. Consider our own history, even today women are restricted in front line combat rolls... Who's to say that the gorn would even allow a female to pick up a weapon instead of raising the eggs? Or the nausucans might view their women as property/slaves. One must consider all the posibilities not just what we live with... Just my two cents.
And please devs pass some love our way... The Feds really have more then they can handle at the moment any way...
Nope. Back-of-the-head thingie (two versions) is unique Ferengi item.
I agree generally on all those points but the sashes are just rank insignia.