ROFL @ this thread and all klinks right now.
For any klink that was int he game from beta; yo all need to ask yorself if yor "poor me" card is still working....wait it is because klinks always find something to cry about. If you are not happy with the current state of the game then leave, reroll, go back to whatever game you came from but feds are sick of hearing the constant whining.
After the last 3 days of PVP where players like Emerald, DGgasaysi (i think i spelled it right), Natram and a few others that quit as soon as my group goes up 5-0 I have learned Klinks just want another form of I WIN.
I will say one group of klinks did great while we were training in 2 new fleetmates into PVP (elkinator SP i think) and his crew were a good group of klinks, played well communicated and never cried.
As far as the klink side dying....no it won't get over it. I dare to say that the drop off on klink side is proportionaly close to the % of feds that left the game as well.
I have been playing klink side for the last 3 days (since my week I did it in Beta) and I must say all the RP alone makes me sick.
Honor....LOL sitting in stealth during salvage maps = honor?
respect.....the HUGE amount of trash talking in zone chat in KvK maps?
Real skill? come on there are very few klinks with real skill, most reley on the FotM and the sheer alpha strike power of klinks to show how "good" they are.
Come to fed side play VS "good Klinks" and learn the whole game
to the OP....nice choice of words klingon drama queens is appropriate if you go the tribble test server discussion threads and see the spineless klinks crying and quitting the game like the B.A.N. that they are.
Don't adapt to the changes Don't learn new strategies, don't try new things....just quit...
good job OP
Aku states this qoute "I have been playing klink side for the last 3 days (since my week I did it in Beta) and I must say all the RP alone makes me sick."
Sorry to say you haven't played long enough on the KDF side to truely experience what it feels like to grind away on PVP over and over and over again. Sorry to say Klingon players also like to play PVE too. The lack of PVE content on the Klingon side makes this side of the game extremely boring. Secondly Klingon players have just as much right to PVE content as the Federation players get. We pay the same subscription to play. For content in game should be close or as much as to provide players that want to keep playing Klingon interested in playing the game.
I know from my own experinece that if a game gets boring I most likely quit playing it.Due to no new content, unfair amount of ship classes, lack of customization, lack of equal or almost equal weapons to use, most of all abusing a skill for example hold and stasis over and over again not allowing the opposing side to even get a chance to fight back is just uber annoying. In fact Federation players whine just as much or more so. So calling us Klingon Drama Queens doesnt bode well when I know for a fact Federation players whine just as much or more than a Klingon players just so they can keep the Klingons nerfed only because of their lack of skill playing PVP.
Again this game had potential if Cryptic would not follow the same mistakes as all the other Star trek games that came in the past by favoring one side over the other. Instead if Cryptic would break the normal mold and create a game that had enough equal content for both sides to keep both factions equally interested in playing the game. Then I would say this game would be the all time greatest Star Trek game ever made. But as it turns out they have followed the same mistakes that other game developers have in the past. Only to see the Star Trek genre fail again by short sheeting one faction over the other because of favoritism or by listening to most players whining. Since this is very evident by what was offered to us at present time. Maybe they miss titled the game and should have named the game Federation Online instead. Because they cater to only that faction more than they do to the Klingons. I am sure not everyone wants to play Federation only.As Cryptic have announced in their media blow out back in 2009 that players were able to play all the other factions with equal or almost equal content. And again that has yet to be seen.
I and many others still waiting to see if this game has potential of being the greatest Star Trek game ever made. But until the Developers start to realize why people are canceling subscriptions and quit playing one side because of lack of equal content. This game will never reach its potential of being the all time greatest Star Trek game ever made. Cryptic announces to us on the officel web page that in order for Star Trek Online to keep going they need us. If that is true then they need to listen to all of us not just the Federation players in order to keep this game alive for years to come. :mad:
I agree that telling people to unsub creates more problems for the company, but there is no point in paying for a product they are not happy with. It solves the problem for the individual, which is really all the person can solve. That is where I am coming from.
You don't have to agree, but at least we see where each other are coming from.
You are obviously more devoted to the game than I am, which I respect. All I can suggest is approaching the issue with a bit cooler head, and not attacking allies I want to see PvE content for the Klingons as well, but that fight was already won and now we are just waiting. No amount of arm flailing will make it come sooner
Its not about Devotion - its about Cryptic shooting themsleves in the foot to the point where they have nothing left to stand on. Cryptic isn't winning any awards and the game is already declining in population, and like every MMO that releases early or fails to deliver on what was promised they have nowhere to go but down. A lesson they failed to learn from Champions Online. Even know, Cryptic's priorities are mixed, choosing to spend time/resources on non-critical issues instead of providing what is badly been needed since closed beta.
Like Florence said, you payed for a Star Trek Online account, you can't expect them to lower the price for Klingon players.. How that would be done would be a problem in itself.
You're missing the BIG picture here. We're not getting the short end of the Stick... We're getting the PvE Storyline you commented about on the Federation Side.. We don't have all the new little updates because all the Klingon Devs are hard at work creating a good and solid PvE storyline. The Federation are pretty set, and they can focus on the new things like Ship Customization, Species, Off duty uniforms, and things like that.
Klingons will receive all that, just not at once.. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither is an MMO, or healthy storyline PvE quests.
You need to relax for now, and just have fun with leveling up slowly on your Klingon, like me.
1. I'm not getting what I expected and they hadnot annouced the monthly fees when I pre-bought.
2. A Klingon only subscription shouldn't be hard at all. Klingon only players would not be allowed to log on as Fed faction characters once they've unlocked Klingons.
3. IIRC my comment was concerning CONTENT (PvE + PvP + customization). Sure, more Klingon faction PvE is needed. Access to full PvE episodic storyline included. But PvP is limited as currently presented. Where are the 1 on 1 Bat'leth arenas, the 1 on 1 space arena, the "to the last Klingon" cage match arena and the sector wide consentual all-tier open PvP (ground and space)?
4. "Klingon Devs"? There are Devs that only work Klingon content? Color me skeptical, can you post a link to that information? If so there must be one hell of a lot more Federation Devs.
5. Rome wasn't built in a day? Episodic content doesn't flow like tap water? Delivery of three Federation playable species and off-duty Star Fleet clothes instead of taking the same resources and providing more uniform customization and playable species (Joined Trill for example) to the Klingon faction wasn't the result of decisions made by Cryptic? It just happened that way and they don't know why?
Skapek, the only person you're convincing is yourself, okay, maybe Florence too.
I never said it wasn't a controversial change in the plans, just that it was a necessary one in order to meet their launch date AND have the Klingon faction playable.
Ah what? So release an unfinished game and the lie about 45 days patch... I said that Cryptic won't release 45 days patch on time about the release time... And guess who's right.
My first real toon in this game was a fed science which i level to RA5 quickly without touching pvp once. I've just finished levelling a Klingon character to gen5 last night and by jove it was mind numbing. The problems as I can see it, are that the main way to level a Klingon is through pvp, and as it stands at the moment, there are a hell of a lot of problems with the pvp.
The imbalances with skills and numbers make it so that 3/4 pvp matches aren't really worth playing sometimes. Other times the matches are fair, and not everyone is using OP science skills (you know the ones I mean).
Now I was fully aware of the limitations before I started the Klingon toon, but the draw of the ships was enough to get me to continue on. But if you aren't as patient as me, or have the real drive to grind, those pvp problems make things even harder.
What I can see happening is after a lot of the problems get sorted in the next patch (fingers crossed), we will see an influx of people willing to try this out. But, and this is a big but, if things don't change sufficiently then the ratios will stay roughly the same as they are, and so will the queues.
All I can say is to the feds, stop baiting the Klingons because it just causes friction and that doesn't help matters (this is not aimed at anyone specific, but there are people on this forum and in game doing this a lot). To the Klingons, lets hold in there for a little while longer and see what the patch brings us. I for one will enjoy playing my Klingon a lot more if the pvp situation was better, with or without more pve.
To everyone, lets stop all the petty bickering, *****ing,and baiting and see what the patch brings us. At least then we will have a much better idea of the current state of the game. We are days away from the patch so lets hold judgement until after it is released.
Before the patch comes in we ought to get a couple of teams together, everyone with SNB/VM and have a space game of freeze tag :P
So it's been confirmed..by DSTAHL...more Klingon content is coming for the summer.....I know this was posted before..but that poor thread is getting buried....
After getting out of a scheduling meeting today I can give a quick update on this.
Klingon PVE episodes have been confirmed to be in the Season Two update plan and the design pod is starting work on the content next week. Season Two is scheduled to be released this summer. It is a decent amount of content so will take some time to make it cool.
I'll be tracking this content as we get closer via the Engineering Report forum. Keep in mind that schedules are always subject to change - but hopefully this will give you an idea.
So basically, no there isn't a campaign to "get" klingons or kill the faction. The next episode will have more Klingon content. I would assume that more content will be coming after that.
So basically, no there isn't a campaign to "get" klingons or kill the faction. The next episode will have more Klingon content. I would assume that more content will be coming after that.
Ah, but will there be more Klingon content in each of the next several updates than Federation content (in the updates)?
Having started with so much less content than the Federation, Klingons need to do some catching up. The "45-day update" has more Federation than Klingon content, putting Klingons further behind than before the update.
Continuing to receive updates with 1 part Klingon and 3 parts Federation content ain't gonna cut it. That ratio needs to be reversed, for a looong time.
Feds aren't going to like that, no sir, not a bit. They won't like being treated like, like, Klingons!
Um, if they sold Klingon only accounts I missed it, and would have gladly bought a Klingon only account. What I appear to have bought was mislabeled as Star Trek Online, what I really got was Federation Online.
The Federation story line is interesting, and the rewards PvE hands out like candy are much better than what you must claw from PvP. I find the PvE unbelievably easy, not even the red shirt BOs die during most missions and I usually have to fly my ship like a Captain Janeway to get it shot up or killed in PvE.
It will not be nearly as interesting leveling a second Fed toon. The 3rd time thru would be painfully boring.
Maybe going thru those away team missions with just the Captain or with just 1 BO will make it more challenging.
When you watch Star Trek, do you scream at the screen "this is Federation Voyager, or Federation TOS, not Star Trek!"?
Aku states this qoute "I have been playing klink side for the last 3 days (since my week I did it in Beta) and I must say all the RP alone makes me sick."
Sorry to say you haven't played long enough on the KDF side to truely experience what it feels like to grind away on PVP over and over and over again. Sorry to say Klingon players also like to play PVE too. The lack of PVE content on the Klingon side makes this side of the game extremely boring. Secondly Klingon players have just as much right to PVE content as the Federation players get. We pay the same subscription to play. For content in game should be close or as much as to provide players that want to keep playing Klingon interested in playing the game.
I know from my own experinece that if a game gets boring I most likely quit playing it.Due to no new content, unfair amount of ship classes, lack of customization, lack of equal or almost equal weapons to use, most of all abusing a skill for example hold and stasis over and over again not allowing the opposing side to even get a chance to fight back is just uber annoying. In fact Federation players whine just as much or more so. So calling us Klingon Drama Queens doesnt bode well when I know for a fact Federation players whine just as much or more than a Klingon players just so they can keep the Klingons nerfed only because of their lack of skill playing PVP.
Again this game had potential if Cryptic would not follow the same mistakes as all the other Star trek games that came in the past by favoring one side over the other. Instead if Cryptic would break the normal mold and create a game that had enough equal content for both sides to keep both factions equally interested in playing the game. Then I would say this game would be the all time greatest Star Trek game ever made. But as it turns out they have followed the same mistakes that other game developers have in the past. Only to see the Star Trek genre fail again by short sheeting one faction over the other because of favoritism or by listening to most players whining. Since this is very evident by what was offered to us at present time. Maybe they miss titled the game and should have named the game Federation Online instead. Because they cater to only that faction more than they do to the Klingons. I am sure not everyone wants to play Federation only.As Cryptic have announced in their media blow out back in 2009 that players were able to play all the other factions with equal or almost equal content. And again that has yet to be seen.
I and many others still waiting to see if this game has potential of being the greatest Star Trek game ever made. But until the Developers start to realize why people are canceling subscriptions and quit playing one side because of lack of equal content. This game will never reach its potential of being the all time greatest Star Trek game ever made. Cryptic announces to us on the officel web page that in order for Star Trek Online to keep going they need us. If that is true then they need to listen to all of us not just the Federation players in order to keep this game alive for years to come. :mad:
besides that quote is only one paragraph long and only a few words stateing klingon in the works for this summer, the 2nd paragraph at the end as usuall time frame subject to change / lol
i made a thread hours before dtashi or whatever made that quote in that other thread . i asked that cryptic please resond to the klingon community with an honest and concrete reply of what thay themselves think of the klink faction and to address in depth there plans for us, well mine got ignored he posted that in the newer one.why because thay have no idea.
1. I'm not getting what I expected and they hadnot annouced the monthly fees when I pre-bought.
2. A Klingon only subscription shouldn't be hard at all. Klingon only players would not be allowed to log on as Fed faction characters once they've unlocked Klingons.
3. IIRC my comment was concerning CONTENT (PvE + PvP + customization). Sure, more Klingon faction PvE is needed. Access to full PvE episodic storyline included. But PvP is limited as currently presented. Where are the 1 on 1 Bat'leth arenas, the 1 on 1 space arena, the "to the last Klingon" cage match arena and the sector wide consentual all-tier open PvP (ground and space)?
4. "Klingon Devs"? There are Devs that only work Klingon content? Color me skeptical, can you post a link to that information? If so there must be one hell of a lot more Federation Devs.
5. Rome wasn't built in a day? Episodic content doesn't flow like tap water? Delivery of three Federation playable species and off-duty Star Fleet clothes instead of taking the same resources and providing more uniform customization and playable species (Joined Trill for example) to the Klingon faction wasn't the result of decisions made by Cryptic? It just happened that way and they don't know why?
Skapek, the only person you're convincing is yourself, okay, maybe Florence too.
Then hell, I convinced one more than I thought.
Klingon "acconts" will never happen, so I wouldn't get your hope up about that one, just in genera.
Where are they? They are COMING! Does the Federation have holodecks where you can duel someone? No. Do they have duels in space? No. Over time, I think those types of updates will present themselves. But for now, you've got to deal. No amount of Whining and begging will make them come any faster at this point, so why are you doing it?
Im sure that within the Devs, there are ones that work with Klingon content, and there are somet that work on Federation type content..
Honestly, I don't know why they didn't give us more costumes, and speiecs, all I can say is they are busy WORKing on more major things at this time. Honestly, I don't see anymore speices that could be added into the Klingon Empire... They don't make friends very easily, and the people we have sit around Qo'nos and say how they will recapture all this back sooner or later...
My basic point is, you need to WAIT. Everything won't just happen in one update. It takes time for things to get to a point where the mix of PvE, PvP, Customization and things like that, are good and players are happy.
Honestly, you need to stop whining across multiple boards that Klingons are going to die, and we need to "Ban" together and tell them to stop.. It makes the Klingon faction look like babies who can't deal with the content we have currently. Just sit down, shut up, and wait... if you can't do that...
i made a thread hours before dtashi or whatever made that quote in that other thread . i asked that cryptic please resond to the klingon community with an honest and concrete reply of what thay themselves think of the klink faction and to address in depth there plans for us, well mine got ignored he posted that in the newer one.why because thay have no idea.
it's unreasonable to ask for in depth plans for klingons at this point. there aren't any yet. they've only just approved a plan to make klingons a focus in episode 2 scheduled for release this summer. over the next 3-5 months they'll come up with an implementation plan, develop content, test and refine it, then eventually release it. all while the ongoing work of fixing bugs in the existing content gets done.
in order to have an in depth plan, you have to give them time to develop one. they haven't been thinking about it for the past six weeks -- during that time they've been focused on the 45-day update (which we recently discovered to be mostly free of klingon-specific content). and before that they were focused on the retail release (which we already knew would include "spartan" klingon content).
Honestly, you need to stop whining across multiple boards that Klingons are going to die, and we need to "Ban" together and tell them to stop.. It makes the Klingon faction look like babies who can't deal with the content we have currently. Just sit down, shut up, and wait... if you can't do that...
Whining? Honestly, you need to wake up . . . and grow a pair.
Sitting down, shutting up and waiting . . . ain't gonna get us anything except ignored.
Not doing anything tells Cryptic that things are just fine and they don't need to worry about their monster faction.
Continuing to pay full rate for 1/3 or less of the content tells them we're okay with the way things are.
Yes, getting the Klingon faction full citizenship in Federation Online is going to take a long time . . . at the rate we're going a very, very long time. A single update with twice the content of "Season One" solely devoted to Klingons wouldn't put a sizeable dent in what is needed.
I don't think Cryptic has a good understanding of the situation, and they never will unless Klingons are very vocal and very persistent.
Development of another faction means there are resources which could be going into Klingon content that are not. Some other faction is getting PvE, PvP and customization which could be going into the Klingon faction.
Cryptic, why are you working on a third faction when you haven't finished the second one?
Whining? Honestly, you need to wake up . . . and grow a pair.
Sitting down, shutting up and waiting . . . ain't gonna get us anything except ignored.
Not doing anything tells Cryptic that things are just fine and they don't need to worry about their monster faction.
Continuing to pay full rate for 1/3 or less of the content tells them we're okay with the way things are.
Yes, getting the Klingon faction full citizenship in Federation Online is going to take a long time . . . at the rate we're going a very, very long time. A single update with twice the content of "Season One" solely devoted to Klingons wouldn't put a sizeable dent in what is needed.
I don't think Cryptic has a good understanding of the situation, and they never will unless Klingons are very vocal and very persistent.
Development of another faction means there are resources which could be going into Klingon content that are not. Some other faction is getting PvE, PvP and customization which could be going into the Klingon faction.
Cryptic, why are you working on a third faction when you haven't finished the second one?
I cannot wait for the Klingon update to come, so people like you will just stop doing all this... Its already been stated that Klingons will recieve much more content, and updates. They said it will come.
Whining about a faction on an internet game, means you have a pair? Hm....
Its been stated that Klingons are getting less than Federation, and they KNOW. Repeatedly saying it, doesn't do anything. Being Vocal is one thing, and being whiny about everything, is a totally different other thing. I don't know if you've played SWG, but you sound like the Jedi profession now, and thats NOT what you want.
They ANNOUNCED a third faction... coming in a year. They are not currently working on the third faction now.
The Klingons have not garnered any respect from me, thay wine, complaine and wimper so much, i feel like im talking to my kids. If it is so bad, instead of just acting like what comes out of the north end of a south bound Targ, make valid points where you can, all I see is a pack of posts that have no direction and shows me that your acting like week federation females. Go and prove yourselfs as KLINGONS, get the job done and do it right the first time. With all the wimpering and hiding in this forum crying about everything, make valid bug reports, go to Tribble and do the same there, become more than what Targ Dung falls onto when it is released.
KLINGONS DO NOT CRY WHEN THINGS GO WRONG, THAY FIND A WAY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.
IF YOU CAN NOT DO THIS, THEN YOUR NOT WORTHY OF BEING KLINGONS.
The Klingons have not garnered any respect from me, thay wine, complaine and wimper so much.
Everyone whines, Klingons is more due to fustration. Far more fustration than the federation side, after all, we got more time to whine since we got less content to mess with
However for the most part, Klingon fustration > Fed fustration at the moment.
I rolled a Klingon to PVP. I wasn't under any illiusions it is a PVP race. It said it on the packet and that is exactly what it does. To the feds going OOOOOeerr pve content on klingons! Seriously why bother you have MUCH better PVE on your side that is the simple fact of it. Buy a playable klingon fed if you really want.
To the Klingons going OMG we only get half the content! last I checked you can do infected and so on. If you want PVE so badly use your char slot and make a Federation character. You signed up for a PVP character then cry about it being a pvp character? It doesn't make sense. Do you buy a chocolate icecream then have a cry it doesn't have vanilla in it, dispite it saying on the packet Chocolate icecream?
What is bad atm is that PVP is STALE and boring. There is limited maps and frankly the BO abilites need a look at. We run multiple stacks of the SAME damn ability. We completly write off over half the abiliteis as utterly useless. This makes bo loadout very much pre determined and cookie cutter for the most part.
Maps are boring and stale as well. Three team deathmatch maps which are all mostly open. One capture and hold. Assualt errr I don't think I have EVER seen this player correctly, it mainly turns into team deathmatch.
So while we signed up to one aspect of the game mainly that aspect of the game is very underdeveloped and we don't have much variety within it. I would rather see a slew of PVP awsomeness than any PVE updates as a Klingon. PVP updates and abilities looked at properly would ALSO benefit BOTH sides. Rather than a future patch that just gets some Federation players across to Klingons because they don't have to pvp now.
From what I saw when I started, everyone started as a Fed and stayed a Fed untill Lt.6 then you have the choice to make a Klingon toon. Sure I have a RA5 science toon and it was fun getting there, however I also have a Klingon toon as well. It is normal to get frustrated, part of being alive, but the best way to let Cryptic know to improve Klingons is to make the bug reports on every single thing you find. While your at it make a good solid suggestion on something you did like, when you found that bug, might work well in a PvE experience. Bug reporting is examined very closely and it also has the inate ability to be a place for some feedback, if it is done in the right perspective without using it as a form of trolling.
Its mostly a case of people who were saying that the klingon QQ is more. I dont know if this is truely the case, as i dont read forums much. However most threads are directed at science abilities in general, so whats with the nerfing of OUR science exclusive ship.
edit. i wont rehash what has been said, but people who fly carriers going to happen and how its gonna make carriers even more unpopular than they already are.
. . . but the best way to let Cryptic know to improve Klingons is to make the bug reports on every single thing you find. While your at it make a good solid suggestion on something you did like, when you found that bug, might work well in a PvE experience. Bug reporting is examined very closely and it also has the inate ability to be a place for some feedback, if it is done in the right perspective without using it as a form of trolling.
I appreciate that you are being serious here, but how long have you been playing Klingon faction?
Here's an example - some of the vendors at Ganalda have had issues about not selling certain high level gear since open beta. Numerous bug reports have been submitted since open beta, yet they have not been fixed.
If all the remaining Klingon players submit a bug "can not get Joined Trill playable character" the day "season one" hits the street what will Cryptic do?
to the OP....nice choice of words klingon drama queens is appropriate if you go the tribble test server discussion threads and see the spineless klinks crying and quitting the game like the B.A.N. that they are.
Don't adapt to the changes Don't learn new strategies, don't try new things....just quit...
good job OP
Gotta agree to a certain extent, here. I've never seen such a bunch of crying babies before.... Klingons, my a**... sounds closer to a Ferengi with a stubbed toe..
A Klingon would make do with what he or she had, and secure victory with it.
Makes me wonder if the devs are going to add new Klink side costume pieces, i.e. tight black clothing and pink boots, so they can look like the crying emo kids they act like, sometimes.
Note: This is not directed at all those playing with us on Klink side. There are a few that aren't whining little p***ies. Kudo's to you for just going out and having fun.
With the realease of some decent pve elements available to klingons I just want you all to know that I will be leveling a Klingon toon. Alot of you are posting about the death of the faction but every patch will breathe new life into it. You don't seem to see the big picture.
Strict pvp play only apeals to a small group of your player base. It's no wonder why the klingons had so few players. I tried it and I would rather gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon. I like pvp, but I don't like pvp ALL the time. A few of you post how klingon players get lost somewhere between t2 and t5. I have no doubt that it is the reason. Hats off to those hardcore players who leveled pvp the whole way. I know that isn't for me.
I just want to give you some hope that if I am looking to play klingon now, that perhaps more fed players will be changing over to the empire. I think with every content release they will draw more and more players to the other side. I doubt it will ever be 50/50, the federation is simply too popular.
Regards
Unfortunately you will still be leveling using PVP. Unless you can stomach the equally horrible grind of doing exploration missions till you are blue in the face. You are faced with no content till 43. Every other level is a grind of pvp or exploration. You get more XP doing pvp than exploration. Sorry. My klingon will remain sleeping until there is content on the klingon side.
I've even checked the exploration missions out on Tribble. They are just as repetitive as the fed's exploration stuff on Holodeck. There is also still very limited female costume options on Tribble for Klingons. There is very little change, besides ship options, between holodeck and tribble klingons.
most of you speak like feds that know nothing about being Klingon exsample no real klingon says klink
and a lot of us Bg are going to leave the game unless cryptic stops ignoring us i my self have 3 Bg.
it want take much for cryptic to sway our opinon just balence the game show us some of the attention you do the feds and for the love of sovacore why would you ever release a new race befor you fix the seriuce problemse in the epmire you only makeing a valitile situation wurs
the guy who started the post has a point that you carebears will come over to our side with the patch and it may help the lowbees
but thous of us that have been here from the start want what was said we were geting ur fed handmedowns are an insult
exsample they said ships and all they release is 1 T2 curser we were promised since beta? how about at least 1 sci ship no instead they simply slap paint on a rusty old ship like that going to fix something other then the sheeps point of veiw
cyptic you have till our game time runs out you have been worned
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Aku states this qoute "I have been playing klink side for the last 3 days (since my week I did it in Beta) and I must say all the RP alone makes me sick."
Sorry to say you haven't played long enough on the KDF side to truely experience what it feels like to grind away on PVP over and over and over again. Sorry to say Klingon players also like to play PVE too. The lack of PVE content on the Klingon side makes this side of the game extremely boring. Secondly Klingon players have just as much right to PVE content as the Federation players get. We pay the same subscription to play. For content in game should be close or as much as to provide players that want to keep playing Klingon interested in playing the game.
I know from my own experinece that if a game gets boring I most likely quit playing it.Due to no new content, unfair amount of ship classes, lack of customization, lack of equal or almost equal weapons to use, most of all abusing a skill for example hold and stasis over and over again not allowing the opposing side to even get a chance to fight back is just uber annoying. In fact Federation players whine just as much or more so. So calling us Klingon Drama Queens doesnt bode well when I know for a fact Federation players whine just as much or more than a Klingon players just so they can keep the Klingons nerfed only because of their lack of skill playing PVP.
Again this game had potential if Cryptic would not follow the same mistakes as all the other Star trek games that came in the past by favoring one side over the other. Instead if Cryptic would break the normal mold and create a game that had enough equal content for both sides to keep both factions equally interested in playing the game. Then I would say this game would be the all time greatest Star Trek game ever made. But as it turns out they have followed the same mistakes that other game developers have in the past. Only to see the Star Trek genre fail again by short sheeting one faction over the other because of favoritism or by listening to most players whining. Since this is very evident by what was offered to us at present time. Maybe they miss titled the game and should have named the game Federation Online instead. Because they cater to only that faction more than they do to the Klingons. I am sure not everyone wants to play Federation only.As Cryptic have announced in their media blow out back in 2009 that players were able to play all the other factions with equal or almost equal content. And again that has yet to be seen.
I and many others still waiting to see if this game has potential of being the greatest Star Trek game ever made. But until the Developers start to realize why people are canceling subscriptions and quit playing one side because of lack of equal content. This game will never reach its potential of being the all time greatest Star Trek game ever made. Cryptic announces to us on the officel web page that in order for Star Trek Online to keep going they need us. If that is true then they need to listen to all of us not just the Federation players in order to keep this game alive for years to come. :mad:
Its not about Devotion - its about Cryptic shooting themsleves in the foot to the point where they have nothing left to stand on. Cryptic isn't winning any awards and the game is already declining in population, and like every MMO that releases early or fails to deliver on what was promised they have nowhere to go but down. A lesson they failed to learn from Champions Online. Even know, Cryptic's priorities are mixed, choosing to spend time/resources on non-critical issues instead of providing what is badly been needed since closed beta.
1. I'm not getting what I expected and they hadnot annouced the monthly fees when I pre-bought.
2. A Klingon only subscription shouldn't be hard at all. Klingon only players would not be allowed to log on as Fed faction characters once they've unlocked Klingons.
3. IIRC my comment was concerning CONTENT (PvE + PvP + customization). Sure, more Klingon faction PvE is needed. Access to full PvE episodic storyline included. But PvP is limited as currently presented. Where are the 1 on 1 Bat'leth arenas, the 1 on 1 space arena, the "to the last Klingon" cage match arena and the sector wide consentual all-tier open PvP (ground and space)?
4. "Klingon Devs"? There are Devs that only work Klingon content? Color me skeptical, can you post a link to that information? If so there must be one hell of a lot more Federation Devs.
5. Rome wasn't built in a day? Episodic content doesn't flow like tap water? Delivery of three Federation playable species and off-duty Star Fleet clothes instead of taking the same resources and providing more uniform customization and playable species (Joined Trill for example) to the Klingon faction wasn't the result of decisions made by Cryptic? It just happened that way and they don't know why?
Skapek, the only person you're convincing is yourself, okay, maybe Florence too.
Wheres the Drag Queens!
Oh wait........... Drama Queens
Ah what? So release an unfinished game and the lie about 45 days patch... I said that Cryptic won't release 45 days patch on time about the release time... And guess who's right.
Lies, Lies, and more Lies.
The imbalances with skills and numbers make it so that 3/4 pvp matches aren't really worth playing sometimes. Other times the matches are fair, and not everyone is using OP science skills (you know the ones I mean).
Now I was fully aware of the limitations before I started the Klingon toon, but the draw of the ships was enough to get me to continue on. But if you aren't as patient as me, or have the real drive to grind, those pvp problems make things even harder.
What I can see happening is after a lot of the problems get sorted in the next patch (fingers crossed), we will see an influx of people willing to try this out. But, and this is a big but, if things don't change sufficiently then the ratios will stay roughly the same as they are, and so will the queues.
All I can say is to the feds, stop baiting the Klingons because it just causes friction and that doesn't help matters (this is not aimed at anyone specific, but there are people on this forum and in game doing this a lot). To the Klingons, lets hold in there for a little while longer and see what the patch brings us. I for one will enjoy playing my Klingon a lot more if the pvp situation was better, with or without more pve.
To everyone, lets stop all the petty bickering, *****ing,and baiting and see what the patch brings us. At least then we will have a much better idea of the current state of the game. We are days away from the patch so lets hold judgement until after it is released.
Before the patch comes in we ought to get a couple of teams together, everyone with SNB/VM and have a space game of freeze tag :P
Link: http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=140294
So basically, no there isn't a campaign to "get" klingons or kill the faction. The next episode will have more Klingon content. I would assume that more content will be coming after that.
Ah, but will there be more Klingon content in each of the next several updates than Federation content (in the updates)?
Having started with so much less content than the Federation, Klingons need to do some catching up. The "45-day update" has more Federation than Klingon content, putting Klingons further behind than before the update.
Continuing to receive updates with 1 part Klingon and 3 parts Federation content ain't gonna cut it. That ratio needs to be reversed, for a looong time.
Feds aren't going to like that, no sir, not a bit. They won't like being treated like, like, Klingons!
When you watch Star Trek, do you scream at the screen "this is Federation Voyager, or Federation TOS, not Star Trek!"?
Well put, sir, well put. I strongly agree. <S>
i made a thread hours before dtashi or whatever made that quote in that other thread . i asked that cryptic please resond to the klingon community with an honest and concrete reply of what thay themselves think of the klink faction and to address in depth there plans for us, well mine got ignored he posted that in the newer one.why because thay have no idea.
Then hell, I convinced one more than I thought.
Klingon "acconts" will never happen, so I wouldn't get your hope up about that one, just in genera.
Where are they? They are COMING! Does the Federation have holodecks where you can duel someone? No. Do they have duels in space? No. Over time, I think those types of updates will present themselves. But for now, you've got to deal. No amount of Whining and begging will make them come any faster at this point, so why are you doing it?
Im sure that within the Devs, there are ones that work with Klingon content, and there are somet that work on Federation type content..
Honestly, I don't know why they didn't give us more costumes, and speiecs, all I can say is they are busy WORKing on more major things at this time. Honestly, I don't see anymore speices that could be added into the Klingon Empire... They don't make friends very easily, and the people we have sit around Qo'nos and say how they will recapture all this back sooner or later...
My basic point is, you need to WAIT. Everything won't just happen in one update. It takes time for things to get to a point where the mix of PvE, PvP, Customization and things like that, are good and players are happy.
Honestly, you need to stop whining across multiple boards that Klingons are going to die, and we need to "Ban" together and tell them to stop.. It makes the Klingon faction look like babies who can't deal with the content we have currently. Just sit down, shut up, and wait... if you can't do that...
/uninstall
it's unreasonable to ask for in depth plans for klingons at this point. there aren't any yet. they've only just approved a plan to make klingons a focus in episode 2 scheduled for release this summer. over the next 3-5 months they'll come up with an implementation plan, develop content, test and refine it, then eventually release it. all while the ongoing work of fixing bugs in the existing content gets done.
in order to have an in depth plan, you have to give them time to develop one. they haven't been thinking about it for the past six weeks -- during that time they've been focused on the 45-day update (which we recently discovered to be mostly free of klingon-specific content). and before that they were focused on the retail release (which we already knew would include "spartan" klingon content).
-ken
Whining? Honestly, you need to wake up . . . and grow a pair.
Sitting down, shutting up and waiting . . . ain't gonna get us anything except ignored.
Not doing anything tells Cryptic that things are just fine and they don't need to worry about their monster faction.
Continuing to pay full rate for 1/3 or less of the content tells them we're okay with the way things are.
Yes, getting the Klingon faction full citizenship in Federation Online is going to take a long time . . . at the rate we're going a very, very long time. A single update with twice the content of "Season One" solely devoted to Klingons wouldn't put a sizeable dent in what is needed.
I don't think Cryptic has a good understanding of the situation, and they never will unless Klingons are very vocal and very persistent.
Development of another faction means there are resources which could be going into Klingon content that are not. Some other faction is getting PvE, PvP and customization which could be going into the Klingon faction.
Cryptic, why are you working on a third faction when you haven't finished the second one?
I cannot wait for the Klingon update to come, so people like you will just stop doing all this... Its already been stated that Klingons will recieve much more content, and updates. They said it will come.
Whining about a faction on an internet game, means you have a pair? Hm....
Its been stated that Klingons are getting less than Federation, and they KNOW. Repeatedly saying it, doesn't do anything. Being Vocal is one thing, and being whiny about everything, is a totally different other thing. I don't know if you've played SWG, but you sound like the Jedi profession now, and thats NOT what you want.
They ANNOUNCED a third faction... coming in a year. They are not currently working on the third faction now.
<sees no hands>
Next question - Everyone who thinks STO will be around in a year raise your hands! :eek:
Only drama queens post threads with the term "drama queen" in the title :rolleyes:
Ohh i like your sig. What episode is that from?
KLINGONS DO NOT CRY WHEN THINGS GO WRONG, THAY FIND A WAY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.
IF YOU CAN NOT DO THIS, THEN YOUR NOT WORTHY OF BEING KLINGONS.
Everyone whines, Klingons is more due to fustration. Far more fustration than the federation side, after all, we got more time to whine since we got less content to mess with
However for the most part, Klingon fustration > Fed fustration at the moment.
To the Klingons going OMG we only get half the content! last I checked you can do infected and so on. If you want PVE so badly use your char slot and make a Federation character. You signed up for a PVP character then cry about it being a pvp character? It doesn't make sense. Do you buy a chocolate icecream then have a cry it doesn't have vanilla in it, dispite it saying on the packet Chocolate icecream?
What is bad atm is that PVP is STALE and boring. There is limited maps and frankly the BO abilites need a look at. We run multiple stacks of the SAME damn ability. We completly write off over half the abiliteis as utterly useless. This makes bo loadout very much pre determined and cookie cutter for the most part.
Maps are boring and stale as well. Three team deathmatch maps which are all mostly open. One capture and hold. Assualt errr I don't think I have EVER seen this player correctly, it mainly turns into team deathmatch.
So while we signed up to one aspect of the game mainly that aspect of the game is very underdeveloped and we don't have much variety within it. I would rather see a slew of PVP awsomeness than any PVE updates as a Klingon. PVP updates and abilities looked at properly would ALSO benefit BOTH sides. Rather than a future patch that just gets some Federation players across to Klingons because they don't have to pvp now.
edit. i wont rehash what has been said, but people who fly carriers going to happen and how its gonna make carriers even more unpopular than they already are.
I appreciate that you are being serious here, but how long have you been playing Klingon faction?
Here's an example - some of the vendors at Ganalda have had issues about not selling certain high level gear since open beta. Numerous bug reports have been submitted since open beta, yet they have not been fixed.
If all the remaining Klingon players submit a bug "can not get Joined Trill playable character" the day "season one" hits the street what will Cryptic do?
Gotta agree to a certain extent, here. I've never seen such a bunch of crying babies before.... Klingons, my a**... sounds closer to a Ferengi with a stubbed toe..
A Klingon would make do with what he or she had, and secure victory with it.
Makes me wonder if the devs are going to add new Klink side costume pieces, i.e. tight black clothing and pink boots, so they can look like the crying emo kids they act like, sometimes.
Note: This is not directed at all those playing with us on Klink side. There are a few that aren't whining little p***ies. Kudo's to you for just going out and having fun.
It is from Shades of Gray.
Unfortunately you will still be leveling using PVP. Unless you can stomach the equally horrible grind of doing exploration missions till you are blue in the face. You are faced with no content till 43. Every other level is a grind of pvp or exploration. You get more XP doing pvp than exploration. Sorry. My klingon will remain sleeping until there is content on the klingon side.
I've even checked the exploration missions out on Tribble. They are just as repetitive as the fed's exploration stuff on Holodeck. There is also still very limited female costume options on Tribble for Klingons. There is very little change, besides ship options, between holodeck and tribble klingons.
and a lot of us Bg are going to leave the game unless cryptic stops ignoring us i my self have 3 Bg.
it want take much for cryptic to sway our opinon just balence the game show us some of the attention you do the feds and for the love of sovacore why would you ever release a new race befor you fix the seriuce problemse in the epmire you only makeing a valitile situation wurs
the guy who started the post has a point that you carebears will come over to our side with the patch and it may help the lowbees
but thous of us that have been here from the start want what was said we were geting ur fed handmedowns are an insult
exsample they said ships and all they release is 1 T2 curser we were promised since beta? how about at least 1 sci ship no instead they simply slap paint on a rusty old ship like that going to fix something other then the sheeps point of veiw
cyptic you have till our game time runs out you have been worned
sarry about the spelling