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Inertial Supremacy Trait from Event Ship
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Debuff Foes During Weapon Firing Modes
Weapon attacks during AoE Weapon Firing Modes apply - 20 Damage Resistance Rating to Foes for 30 sec, scaling with Speed (up to -50 at 240 Speed)
Skills that affect this ability: none
Now I wonder why it doesn't work with Torpedo Spread which is an AoE Weapon Firing Mode or was it suppose to be just for Energy Weapons but forgotten to word it that way in the tooltip ?
Weapon attacks during AoE Weapon Firing Modes apply - 20 Damage Resistance Rating to Foes for 30 sec, scaling with Speed (up to -50 at 240 Speed)
Skills that affect this ability: none
Now I wonder why it doesn't work with Torpedo Spread which is an AoE Weapon Firing Mode or was it suppose to be just for Energy Weapons but forgotten to word it that way in the tooltip ?
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"Starship Trait - Inertial Supremacy
Space Trait. During Beams: Fire at Will, Cannon: Scatter Volley, or Torpedo Spread, weapons fire applies a debuff to Foes' Damage Resistance Rating. The strength of the debuff depends on the current speed of your vessel."
If it's not, time to file a bug report. Though, is it just a tooltip error or is it actually not applying?
Or disable the automatic fire for the torpedo(es) and manually fire those, which is becoming more common anyway with the Maelstrom types gaining favor.
I tested it 1 on 1 in arena all fire modes worked but torpedo spread. I guess I check it one more time with an NPC environment.
For me it looks like this
It needs to be fixed though otherwise this trait will never work on a torp or sci build without energy weapons.
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It may be time for that. After another round of testing, torpedoes fired under spread, even if other aoe firing modes are active, do not apply the debuff. High yield and regular torpedoes will apply the debuff if csv/faw are active, but under no circumstances, testing multiple types, was I able to get spread torpedoes to apply the debuff. As an interesting side note, the Gravimetric Photon Torpedo Launcher, which creates a targetable torpedo under high yield, applied the debuff instantly to the target on firing under high yield, before the heavy gravimetric device even started moving towards the target.
I retract my earlier thoughts, that firing a torpedo was removing the firing mode, and making the torpedoes not apply the debuff. There appears to be a bugged interaction with the way torpedo spread modifies the fired torpedoes. I did not test Tricobalt torpedoes or the Hyper-Plasma Torpedo Launcher from the Romulan Reputation, but did try the Delphic, Dark Matter, Enhanced Bio Molecular, both Maelstrom, and Gravimetric launchers, with and without Entwined Tactical Matrices.
Because torp spread isn't AoE. It targets a specific number of foes, not an area.
Not a bug. Spread hits 3, 4 and 5 specific targets respectively. BFW and RF hit randomly.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Ability:_Torpedo:_Spread
Yes and thanks. I did start a Ticket as well.
It's NOT a bug. It's working as intended. Torp Spread is not an AoE ability, it is a targeted ability as per it's tool tip! AoE abilities like Beam fire at will target indiscriminately, whilst TS targets 3, 4, or 5 enemies only.
It's good to have an opinion but let me quote you what Cryptic wrote:
Starship Trait - Inertial Supremacy
Space Trait. During Beams: Fire at Will, Cannon: Scatter Volley, or Torpedo Spread, weapons fire applies a debuff to Foes' Damage Resistance Rating. The strength of the debuff depends on the current speed of your vessel.
So as you can see Torpedo Spread is considered AoE because it shoots at more then one target. You can hair split if it is an actual AoE or not the Devs considered it an AoE and it should work as a stand alone to initiate the trait. Which it doesn't and that is what the post is all about.
The Dev that wrote it may have considered it AoE, but it's damage type won't say that in their database, even the wiki says the same. And it would have been helpful to lead with that description rather than what you posted.....
"Debuff Foes During Weapon Firing Modes
Weapon attacks during AoE Weapon Firing Modes apply - 20 Damage Resistance Rating to Foes for 30 sec, scaling with Speed (up to -50 at 240 Speed)
Skills that affect this ability: none"
BFaW and CSV 'mechanically' operate differently to TS, especially as they are repeated hits over a significant amount of time, to differing targets. TS does not change targets and completes it's cycle almost instantaneously.
Dude your arguing with me is completely pointless. I quoted you what they wrote if torpspead is suppose to initiate the trait then thats all there is to it. If you want to make an argument what is AoE what isn't open your own thread and don't try to hijack mine.
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