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bjorjlen#6464 bjorjlen Member Posts: 132 Arc User
Hi all! :) I hope you all are ready for the coming weekend, and are planning to have a good relaxing time of it, one way or another. In either case, I posted a question in "The Academy" section, but seeing as not as many people visit that section as here, I figured I would also ask my question here as well (I hope that's ok). So without further adu...
I sorta have a concept for a ship & character that I want to at least try and put together, but to do so I am going to have to get some more information about some things, and so it's question time yet again lol. I am thinking about making a pseudo "Rick & Morty" typer character concept, with Rick Sanchez as the captain, and his crew consisting of different variations of Morty. While Morty's per say seem to be fairly easy in a way, Rick's look is sorta throwing me off a bit; specifically the lab type trench coat he wears. So my first question is this... is there any clothes/costume pieces in the game that at least looks in passing like a lab/trench coat by chance? If so, what is it called, and where might I be able to find it?

Second question... I can invision if he had his way, Rick would have a Starship that while very powerful, functional, and dangerous, would look a bit... ugly, if not even steam punkish as well (btw, am I right in thinking that?). I really don't see him commanding a "pretty" ship like the Galaxy class for example lol. So, what ship(s) would you suggest that could fit the bill so to speak, not only in function & power, but appearance as well?

I was looking at the Fek'Ihri Gok'tad Carrier as to me at least, that's a fairly ugly ship, though quite dangerous (and the pets could be little "Morty's" too flying around, killing things lol), but as I can't seem to get that one in any shape or fashion, what would you all suggest instead? I was sorta thinking about a Science vessel (of course) that also had at least one hangar bay (for flying Morty's), but I am not sure. What do you all think?Oh, and what profession do you think Rick would have? Science or Engineer? I have yet to try out a Engineer, but I am not opposed to it, and it might be fun too with Rick always building things.

So yeah, there you go... I did happen to look a few winter event Jacket options in the exchange as @phoenixc suggested in her reply (thanks again for that btw :) ), and the pure'ish white one certainly looks like it might be sorta satisfactory (even though Rick wears a open lab coat in the show), but I am still a bit stuck for a ship (even though the Fek'Ihri Fe'rang @phoenixc also suggested "might" fit the bill as well), not to mention if he should have the Science or Engineering profession. So I am quite interested in hearing what ideas any of you might have on the subject. :) Thanks again for your time, and I look forward to hearing from any and/or all of you... :)

Peace...
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,664 Arc User
    edited September 2022
    Also remember that there all the Reputation tier 6 vanity shields and some other reputation shields with strong visuals, so you can change the colors and lighting of the ugly ship. A Tholian shield for yellow-blue, Borg for green + spiky bits, R&D level 15 Aegis shield for red or blue by faction, etc.

    For the lab coat, is one of the Fed dress uniforms a long coat that's kind of similar? What about the Lincoln coat if you color it white?
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    The closest we have to a lab coat (I STILL want Dr. Crusher's Lab Coat) is one of the Jupiter variant uniforms, I believe... Jupiter 4? I used that one for a cosplay outfit to try and emulate a jacket until I got the Kelvin Survival outfit on her. Another possibility is getting the open jacket uniforms, and maybe the DS9 uniform if you don't want the quilted shoulders of the First Contact uniform. Won't be long but it would have the look of wearing something over a shirt.

    It will be a C-Store purchase for either the Jupiter or Open Jacket, but might be worth it.

    As for the Gok'tad... my fleet used to call the older Kar'fi the Catfish.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,916 Community Moderator
    edited September 2022
    The Veteran Admiral's coat, which someone else eluded to, comes close to a lab coat. The Talaxian long coat might work as well. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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  • ozwynozwyn Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    I would definite like more coats and hat options. Naval cap for that space battleship Yamato vibe
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  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,343 Arc User
    +1 for moar hats.. especially a beret. I think odyssey has a long coat version
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  • bjorjlen#6464 bjorjlen Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    I would say more hats, glasses, gloves, necklaces, and other items one could attach to one's character, like that bullet bandolier your signature Gif is wearing over it's right shoulder, wouldn't you say @nixie50? I mean wouldn't it be a nice look to have while your shooting bad guys with your Tommy Gun, hmmm? 😁

    Peace...
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,664 Arc User
    I would say more hats, glasses, gloves, necklaces, and other items one could attach to one's character, like that bullet bandolier your signature Gif is wearing over it's right shoulder, wouldn't you say @nixie50? I mean wouldn't it be a nice look to have while your shooting bad guys with your Tommy Gun, hmmm? 😁
    Peace...

    Yes, they added all the tech attachments (science kit, intel armband scanner, etc.) back in 2012 I think, and not much since besides a few badges and lobi store items.

  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,411 Arc User
    A Fez is needed.
    Fez's are cool.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,916 Community Moderator
    A Fez is needed.
    Fez's are cool.

    Haz we not a fez?

    https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Ithenite_Outfit
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,664 Arc User
    Can the skant be worn with pants? A white skant is kinda-sorta like a lab coat if you squint really hard.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    Can the skant be worn with pants? A white skant is kinda-sorta like a lab coat if you squint really hard.

    No. However female characters do have access to "leggings" so you can emulate thin, tight pants under the skant.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    Dyson uniform maybe?

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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,474 Arc User
    Go to the Fleet Spire and you can get a lab/trench coat there. It's the best and closest you'll get.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    Hi all! :) I hope you all are ready for the coming weekend, and are planning to have a good relaxing time of it, one way or another. In either case, I posted a question in "The Academy" section, but seeing as not as many people visit that section as here, I figured I would also ask my question here as well (I hope that's ok). So without further adu...
    I sorta have a concept for a ship & character that I want to at least try and put together, but to do so I am going to have to get some more information about some things, and so it's question time yet again lol. I am thinking about making a pseudo "Rick & Morty" typer character concept, with Rick Sanchez as the captain, and his crew consisting of different variations of Morty. While Morty's per say seem to be fairly easy in a way, Rick's look is sorta throwing me off a bit; specifically the lab type trench coat he wears. So my first question is this... is there any clothes/costume pieces in the game that at least looks in passing like a lab/trench coat by chance? If so, what is it called, and where might I be able to find it?

    Second question... I can invision if he had his way, Rick would have a Starship that while very powerful, functional, and dangerous, would look a bit... ugly, if not even steam punkish as well (btw, am I right in thinking that?). I really don't see him commanding a "pretty" ship like the Galaxy class for example lol. So, what ship(s) would you suggest that could fit the bill so to speak, not only in function & power, but appearance as well?

    I was looking at the Fek'Ihri Gok'tad Carrier as to me at least, that's a fairly ugly ship, though quite dangerous (and the pets could be little "Morty's" too flying around, killing things lol), but as I can't seem to get that one in any shape or fashion, what would you all suggest instead? I was sorta thinking about a Science vessel (of course) that also had at least one hangar bay (for flying Morty's), but I am not sure. What do you all think?Oh, and what profession do you think Rick would have? Science or Engineer? I have yet to try out a Engineer, but I am not opposed to it, and it might be fun too with Rick always building things.

    So yeah, there you go... I did happen to look a few winter event Jacket options in the exchange as @phoenixc suggested in her reply (thanks again for that btw :) ), and the pure'ish white one certainly looks like it might be sorta satisfactory (even though Rick wears a open lab coat in the show), but I am still a bit stuck for a ship (even though the Fek'Ihri Fe'rang @phoenixc also suggested "might" fit the bill as well), not to mention if he should have the Science or Engineering profession. So I am quite interested in hearing what ideas any of you might have on the subject. :) Thanks again for your time, and I look forward to hearing from any and/or all of you... :)

    Peace...

    Personally I would suggest the Cnidarian Defender as a Rick themed Starship since it's the one that resembles his Car/Ship the most.
  • bjorjlen#6464 bjorjlen Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Go to the Fleet Spire and you can get a lab/trench coat there. It's the best and closest you'll get.

    Yes, I have seen that one, and I am considering getting it. Thank you very much for the reminder @leemwatson. :)

    Personally I would suggest the Cnidarian Defender as a Rick themed Starship since it's the one that resembles his Car/Ship the most.

    True, but while that may be a great idea (and I did always want to get that ship), we can't get it anymore as the Risa Event has long since ended, right? Or am I mistaken in that we can't get it even with the Event being over with? If so, where exactly is it by chance? And yes, I checked the Dilithium, Lobi, and Zen stores, and it is not listed in them at all unfortunately (at least under Cnidarian Defender)...

    Peace...
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,848 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Go to the Fleet Spire and you can get a lab/trench coat there. It's the best and closest you'll get.

    Yes, I have seen that one, and I am considering getting it. Thank you very much for the reminder @leemwatson. :)

    Personally I would suggest the Cnidarian Defender as a Rick themed Starship since it's the one that resembles his Car/Ship the most.

    True, but while that may be a great idea (and I did always want to get that ship), we can't get it anymore as the Risa Event has long since ended, right? Or am I mistaken in that we can't get it even with the Event being over with? If so, where exactly is it by chance? And yes, I checked the Dilithium, Lobi, and Zen stores, and it is not listed in them at all unfortunately (at least under Cnidarian Defender)...

    Peace...

    Unfortunately, the summer event buyout ended on August 24th this year (they usually keep it open for about a month, give or take a week or two, after the event).
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    I would say more hats, glasses, gloves, necklaces, and other items one could attach to one's character, like that bullet bandolier your signature Gif is wearing over it's right shoulder, wouldn't you say @nixie50? I mean wouldn't it be a nice look to have while your shooting bad guys with your Tommy Gun, hmmm? 😁

    Peace...

    Yep, all those fashion items in the foundry going to waste. Put em into the tailor, darn it!
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  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    For Steampunk ships, the Fekiri ships could pass for that, as do the Krenum ships, the Vulcan scout ship, the Orion ships and Gorn ships might work, too.
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  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,411 Arc User
    edited September 2022
    A Fez is needed.
    Fez's are cool.
    You are correct - that is 'not a fez'.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,848 Arc User
    edited September 2022
    A Fez is needed.
    Fez's are cool.
    You are correct - that is 'not a fez'.

    True, it is kind of halfway between a Fez and an Igbo cap, but it could pass as either one in a pinch.

    Another good hat would be the gray Federation service cap from The Cage that went with the sparkly gray excursion jacket of the era even though it was only shown sitting on a console in Pike's cabin (they only made one before deciding the costume budget would not stretch far enough to actually equip landing parties with them) :
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    Another good hat would be the gray Federation service cap from The Cage that went with the sparkly gray excursion jacket of the era even though it was only shown sitting on a console in Pike's cabin (they only made one before deciding the costume budget would not stretch far enough to actually equip landing parties with them) :
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    Well... technically speaking the service cap was seen again, but in the Kelvin Timeline.
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    Still need the NX-01 hat though.
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    And with the current ballcaps in game it can easily be done.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    Those Kelvin hats looked silly to me.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    Those Kelvin hats looked silly to me.

    Perhaps, but they are still canon Starfleet attire in the Kelvin Timeline. At least they look better than another Kelvin Timeline hat I saw.
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    What even is that? A hat frame?
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    Hats on starfleet uniforms is like putting a hubcap on a tractor. :/
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,375 Arc User
    Hats on starfleet uniforms is like putting a hubcap on a tractor. :/
    Those seemed to me be part of a special uniform (the one in the Kelvin movies seemed like a dress or HQ only uniform)

  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    Hats on starfleet uniforms is like putting a hubcap on a tractor. :/

    But we do have canon evidence that hats existed. Both in the 22nd Century, and at least one instance of one in the 23rd (The indicated hat in Pike's quarters from The Cage)
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • bjorjlen#6464 bjorjlen Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    I would assume that as Starfleet is a semi military organization, that hats would be at least part of a dress uniform for "official" functions, even though Officers are not required to wear them during regular duty, in much the same way that the military salute is no longer used by anyone outside of the Mirror Universe (that I have seen that is). However, I should point out that outside the Kelvin timeline, there was never a time in the original series where any Starfleet officer wore a hat at all (even during official dress uniform functions). So the one that was seen in Pike's cabin "might" have just been a item of interest as many officers tended to like to collect items from the past (such as Kirk did)...

    Peace...
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,597 Community Moderator
    I've always viewed Starfleet as a bit of a hybrid organization. They're not pure civilian despite Roddenberry's claim to the contrary. Starfleet is the Exploration and military arm of the Federation. They are the ones who fight the wars. But they are also the ones exploring space and making scientific discoveries.

    It wouldn't be out of line in any way to compare Starfleet to modern day Coast Guard or other similar groups during peace time. And we see pretty much in any era that Starfleet draws a lot from maritime traditions, referring to ships as female, navy rank structure for officers, naval terms, even some bybrid naval/submarine warfare.

    To say that Starfleet is not military in any capacity is wrong. By nature it HAS to be to handle everything asked of it. It is a form of military in all but name. Just one that does FAR more than any modern military is asked of today.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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