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I, possibly foolishly, have made 3 Dominion toons. 1 of each profession. I never bought the "bug" ship from that Mudd's pack nor have gambled for a "bug" ship so this Lego "bug" pack is tempting. I'm liking the looks, & the traits well enough. The level 60 to level 65 boost is hilarious & really shows how pathetically that's been over-valued by Cryptic in STO even for full level boosting to 65.
I'm glad Cryptic has already responded by improving the starship trait a bit, well done. I do think the Weyoun & the Dominion ground weapon should be for any Dominion toon on an account & NOT just 1. That would make this any easy sell imo.
Nothing to be ashamed of, if you like and can play Jem'Hadar then making toons for all three departments is only sensible for a number of reasons (including the ability to mix and match with the various ships, which themselves usually lean towards a particular department).
In my case, I cannot get into the heads of the hornytoads so playing one is a surprisingly boring and tedious grind (I play MMORPGs from a roleplay perspective), so that is the only faction I dont have at least one of each department for (then again I am a bit of an altaholic with around thirty characters spread between two accounts, and one Gamma recruit which is just a necessary evil to get a few of the benefits (but none of the ones that require the thing to do ground content) to the characters I can actually stand to play). I suppose that it doesn't help that in DS9 they were meant to be nothing more than faceless, nameless obstacles for the heroes to fight through and that realworld toads are not exactly my favorite creatures.
I do like playing Vorta, and I like the bugships, and this particular ship would fit very well with my playstyle so I would be tempted if it was not for the fact that the considerable extra expense compared to c-store ships would be totally wasted. If they did make the Weyoun clone and the ground weapon available to the other characters on an account I would rather they not restrict that to just horneytoads, if they did make them available to everyone on it regardless of faction it would feel like less of a waste since I could use them with my faux-Vorta characters.
I did sort of centralize each of my Jem'Hadars' professions around a primary starship. Science pilots the Vanguard Support Carrier. My Engineer, named Da Vinci, pilots the Vanguard Dreadnought Cruiser, & I did have my Tactical piloting the Vanguard Heavy Destroyer but planned to switch to this Legendary Vanguard Pilot Attack Ship if I buy it. I too would like to see Vorta introduced, but I suppose I'll have to be happy with a potential BOFF version. lol I never thought of the Jem'Hadar looking like Horny Toads but you're right lol.
Blog hinted any Jem'Hadar ship with a hangar would work in addition to the Dreadnought Cruisers.
apologies again...im still not getting the correlation about what the blog says about hangers and the legendary ship being offered, as the one being offered has no hangers, just the wingmen.
If you own either of the two gamble-box bug ships, it unlocks an exclusive jem'hadar attack ship hangar pet that can be used by the jem'hadar support carrier or dreadnaught carrier. I think the question is if the legendary bug ship counts and unlocks the hangar pet as well.
I think if i got that right from the stream the Legendary one will do too.
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A little unsure as to what to do with this one....
I kind of want the ship, but I also only really play with 2 toons and only 1 of those about 90% of the time.
I made a Jem toon for the purpose of unlocking the Jem ships for my other 2 toons, nothing more. I don't plan on ever using anything other than my 2 main toons.
So...
My first question.
Bank unlocks ? And inventory slots etc.... Do they get added immediately when opening ? Or do I get a specific item that I can move to the account bank which I can save for later use on another toon ? My main toon has max slots so no use on that. I don't want it on my Jem toon as I am 99.999% sure I will never use him, but if I open it on my second main toon, does that mean I cannot claim the other stuff ? Even though I guess I will actually ever use any of it ?
Ah ffs.... What a conundrum for what is essentially only a single ship that I want !
A little unsure as to what to do with this one....
I kind of want the ship, but I also only really play with 2 toons and only 1 of those about 90% of the time.
I made a Jem toon for the purpose of unlocking the Jem ships for my other 2 toons, nothing more. I don't plan on ever using anything other than my 2 main toons.
So...
My first question.
Bank unlocks ? And inventory slots etc.... Do they get added immediately when opening ? Or do I get a specific item that I can move to the account bank which I can save for later use on another toon ? My main toon has max slots so no use on that. I don't want it on my Jem toon as I am 99.999% sure I will never use him, but if I open it on my second main toon, does that mean I cannot claim the other stuff ? Even though I guess I will actually ever use any of it ?
Ah ffs.... What a conundrum for what is essentially only a single ship that I want !
What other stuff... its all Jem stuff. Unless your two main toons are Jem they can't use the weapon or bridge officer. I am going to assume you also can't use the inventory and slot bumps on them either. However I have yet to buy the pack.
A little unsure as to what to do with this one....
I kind of want the ship, but I also only really play with 2 toons and only 1 of those about 90% of the time.
I made a Jem toon for the purpose of unlocking the Jem ships for my other 2 toons, nothing more. I don't plan on ever using anything other than my 2 main toons.
So...
My first question.
Bank unlocks ? And inventory slots etc.... Do they get added immediately when opening ? Or do I get a specific item that I can move to the account bank which I can save for later use on another toon ? My main toon has max slots so no use on that. I don't want it on my Jem toon as I am 99.999% sure I will never use him, but if I open it on my second main toon, does that mean I cannot claim the other stuff ? Even though I guess I will actually ever use any of it ?
Ah ffs.... What a conundrum for what is essentially only a single ship that I want !
What other stuff... its all Jem stuff. Unless your two main toons are Jem they can't use the weapon or bridge officer. I am going to assume you also can't use the inventory and slot bumps on them either. However I have yet to buy the pack.
Yeah I guess that is true. I guess the main question is can the pack be opened on a regular toon and be able to make use of the inventory slots at the very least.
Since pretty much nobody uses the Jem toons, this pack really is incredibly poor value for money. I guess they are relying on people wanting the bug ship and are using that to pretty much rip people off by essentially offering stuff in a pack that nobody is going to be using.
Actually a very dirty tactic when you sit back and think about it.
All I want is the ship and the wingman mechanics as I simply love flying escorts and I really enjoy my other Jem ships due to the wingman mechanic.
But do I bend over and take it dry ? Or do I try and stay strong and just avoid it. Show my dissatisfaction by not spending.....
A little unsure as to what to do with this one....
I kind of want the ship, but I also only really play with 2 toons and only 1 of those about 90% of the time.
I made a Jem toon for the purpose of unlocking the Jem ships for my other 2 toons, nothing more. I don't plan on ever using anything other than my 2 main toons.
So...
My first question.
Bank unlocks ? And inventory slots etc.... Do they get added immediately when opening ? Or do I get a specific item that I can move to the account bank which I can save for later use on another toon ? My main toon has max slots so no use on that. I don't want it on my Jem toon as I am 99.999% sure I will never use him, but if I open it on my second main toon, does that mean I cannot claim the other stuff ? Even though I guess I will actually ever use any of it ?
Ah ffs.... What a conundrum for what is essentially only a single ship that I want !
What other stuff... its all Jem stuff. Unless your two main toons are Jem they can't use the weapon or bridge officer. I am going to assume you also can't use the inventory and slot bumps on them either. However I have yet to buy the pack.
Yeah I guess that is true. I guess the main question is can the pack be opened on a regular toon and be able to make use of the inventory slots at the very least.
Since pretty much nobody uses the Jem toons, this pack really is incredibly poor value for money. I guess they are relying on people wanting the bug ship and are using that to pretty much rip people off by essentially offering stuff in a pack that nobody is going to be using.
Actually a very dirty tactic when you sit back and think about it.
All I want is the ship and the wingman mechanics as I simply love flying escorts and I really enjoy my other Jem ships due to the wingman mechanic.
But do I bend over and take it dry ? Or do I try and stay strong and just avoid it. Show my dissatisfaction by not spending.....
I believe the word is if you open the pack on a non Jem... you loose the boff and weapon ect, for good.
I'm late to party but This pack seems completely worthless, using the level boost only brings you up like 5 more levels it would have been great if they raised the level cap or had other Dominion races that started at level 1, then there's the fact that of most of the good stuff are character bound, instead of account bound, Honestly I kind of feel sorry for the suckers that fell for this SCAM of a bundle.
A little unsure as to what to do with this one....
I kind of want the ship, but I also only really play with 2 toons and only 1 of those about 90% of the time.
I made a Jem toon for the purpose of unlocking the Jem ships for my other 2 toons, nothing more. I don't plan on ever using anything other than my 2 main toons.
So...
My first question.
Bank unlocks ? And inventory slots etc.... Do they get added immediately when opening ? Or do I get a specific item that I can move to the account bank which I can save for later use on another toon ? My main toon has max slots so no use on that. I don't want it on my Jem toon as I am 99.999% sure I will never use him, but if I open it on my second main toon, does that mean I cannot claim the other stuff ? Even though I guess I will actually ever use any of it ?
Ah ffs.... What a conundrum for what is essentially only a single ship that I want !
What other stuff... its all Jem stuff. Unless your two main toons are Jem they can't use the weapon or bridge officer. I am going to assume you also can't use the inventory and slot bumps on them either. However I have yet to buy the pack.
Yeah I guess that is true. I guess the main question is can the pack be opened on a regular toon and be able to make use of the inventory slots at the very least.
Since pretty much nobody uses the Jem toons, this pack really is incredibly poor value for money. I guess they are relying on people wanting the bug ship and are using that to pretty much rip people off by essentially offering stuff in a pack that nobody is going to be using.
Actually a very dirty tactic when you sit back and think about it.
All I want is the ship and the wingman mechanics as I simply love flying escorts and I really enjoy my other Jem ships due to the wingman mechanic.
But do I bend over and take it dry ? Or do I try and stay strong and just avoid it. Show my dissatisfaction by not spending.....
I believe the word is if you open the pack on a non Jem... you loose the boff and weapon ect, for good.
If it even lets you buy it on a non-horneytoad character in the first place instead of just getting the "You do not meet the reqirements" message.
Putting the ship on sale during the Gamma recruit event makes me think that the event laggs behind the others in popularity to a significant degree and they are trying to coax more people to make J'H with it instead of putting in the work of adding more races to the faction.
Blog hinted any Jem'Hadar ship with a hangar would work in addition to the Dreadnought Cruisers.
apologies again...im still not getting the correlation about what the blog says about hangers and the legendary ship being offered, as the one being offered has no hangers, just the wingmen.
If you own either of the two gamble-box bug ships, it unlocks an exclusive jem'hadar attack ship hangar pet that can be used by the jem'hadar support carrier or dreadnaught carrier. I think the question is if the legendary bug ship counts and unlocks the hangar pet as well.
but that seems moot since the legendary offered cant use hanger pets...no? seems odd that a ship that cant use hanger pets, but has a wingmen mechanic, can unlock hanger pets it cant use.
i do appreciate the clarification none the less. thanks.
The point isn't that it is not a carrier itself, it is that the new ship class IS a carrier-pet for some of the largest carriers. And for those large carriers to be able to use the bugships as carrier pets you have to own a bugship to unlock it, it is simply that the new ship qualifies as a bugship for people who own the carriers that can take that kind of pet, not a perk for people only have the bugship.
I think Dominion Science Bridge Officer – Weyoun (Clone) that comes in the pack is a single Character unlock; while I can understand them limiting him perhaps not to all Characters.
I think Dominion Science Bridge Officer – Weyoun (Clone) that comes in the pack is a single Character unlock; while I can understand them limiting him perhaps not to all Characters.
Anyone confirm that is the case?
Correct all but the ship is single character. And it must be used on a Jem toon. So Weyoun is only usable on a Jem. I understand if you open the box on a none Jem you will loose Weyoun and the other items.
I think Dominion Science Bridge Officer – Weyoun (Clone) that comes in the pack is a single Character unlock; while I can understand them limiting him perhaps not to all Characters.
Anyone confirm that is the case?
Correct all but the ship is single character. And it must be used on a Jem toon. So Weyoun is only usable on a Jem. I understand if you open the box on a none Jem you will loose Weyoun and the other items.
If that is correct, that is pretty damn shady! Not everyone will want those bank slots, etc., on a new character. Just one more reason not to waste my ZEN on this bundle. The quad's not being upgradeable goes to show how little, if any, testing was done with the contents of this pack.
Can some tell the Devs that The Dominion Faction Odo's Fleet needs Changelings and Vortas if they want more people to buy this bundle because right now, it's completely worthless, I can see Vortas and Changelings starting level 1 so the level boost could at least do something more than adding the 5 levels you gain just playing the Dominion arc, personally my Jemmie started collecting dust the moment he hit level 65.
I might be spitballing but I'm thinking that the Devs might have made this bundle with the intention of stabotaging "The Dominion" faction in favor of the Federation, there seems to be a Blatantly Obvious bias towards the Federation, I get it, they're the good guys, the Human faction and the most popular faction in the game, give or take 80% the playerbase has a Fed Main, I have a Fed Main myself.
I have a question about the space gear, is it all cannons, all beams or a mix? If a mix, is it a full set of both or not?
Mix. Think its enough gear to go full beam and full cannon if you wanted. And you get a lot of damage consoles... and everything is mk XIV.
Ah good, not as much prep work needed in that case. Thanks.
Plus it means I can do a cruiser polaron beam build if I desire too, at minimum expense. Not to mention I traded some dil for 2k zen, plenty left ore wise but usable, not so much.
I don't need the boost atm, so I'm leaving that unclaimed in the C-Store incase playable Changelings or Vorta ever get added. Haven't had time to do much with the ship yet, I'll probably do that tonight, it's disappointing that the quad cannons are bugged at launch though.
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I did sort of centralize each of my Jem'Hadars' professions around a primary starship. Science pilots the Vanguard Support Carrier. My Engineer, named Da Vinci, pilots the Vanguard Dreadnought Cruiser, & I did have my Tactical piloting the Vanguard Heavy Destroyer but planned to switch to this Legendary Vanguard Pilot Attack Ship if I buy it. I too would like to see Vorta introduced, but I suppose I'll have to be happy with a potential BOFF version. lol I never thought of the Jem'Hadar looking like Horny Toads but you're right lol.
I think if i got that right from the stream the Legendary one will do too.
I think the accidental leak via the Bugship pet tooltip kinda revealed that owning the Legendary unlocks the bugship pets too.
Same goes for me! The ground weapon needs to be account-wide also.
I kind of want the ship, but I also only really play with 2 toons and only 1 of those about 90% of the time.
I made a Jem toon for the purpose of unlocking the Jem ships for my other 2 toons, nothing more. I don't plan on ever using anything other than my 2 main toons.
So...
My first question.
Bank unlocks ? And inventory slots etc.... Do they get added immediately when opening ? Or do I get a specific item that I can move to the account bank which I can save for later use on another toon ? My main toon has max slots so no use on that. I don't want it on my Jem toon as I am 99.999% sure I will never use him, but if I open it on my second main toon, does that mean I cannot claim the other stuff ? Even though I guess I will actually ever use any of it ?
Ah ffs.... What a conundrum for what is essentially only a single ship that I want !
What other stuff... its all Jem stuff. Unless your two main toons are Jem they can't use the weapon or bridge officer. I am going to assume you also can't use the inventory and slot bumps on them either. However I have yet to buy the pack.
Yeah I guess that is true. I guess the main question is can the pack be opened on a regular toon and be able to make use of the inventory slots at the very least.
Since pretty much nobody uses the Jem toons, this pack really is incredibly poor value for money. I guess they are relying on people wanting the bug ship and are using that to pretty much rip people off by essentially offering stuff in a pack that nobody is going to be using.
Actually a very dirty tactic when you sit back and think about it.
All I want is the ship and the wingman mechanics as I simply love flying escorts and I really enjoy my other Jem ships due to the wingman mechanic.
But do I bend over and take it dry ? Or do I try and stay strong and just avoid it. Show my dissatisfaction by not spending.....
I believe the word is if you open the pack on a non Jem... you loose the boff and weapon ect, for good.
If it even lets you buy it on a non-horneytoad character in the first place instead of just getting the "You do not meet the reqirements" message.
Putting the ship on sale during the Gamma recruit event makes me think that the event laggs behind the others in popularity to a significant degree and they are trying to coax more people to make J'H with it instead of putting in the work of adding more races to the faction.
The point isn't that it is not a carrier itself, it is that the new ship class IS a carrier-pet for some of the largest carriers. And for those large carriers to be able to use the bugships as carrier pets you have to own a bugship to unlock it, it is simply that the new ship qualifies as a bugship for people who own the carriers that can take that kind of pet, not a perk for people only have the bugship.
Anyone confirm that is the case?
Correct all but the ship is single character. And it must be used on a Jem toon. So Weyoun is only usable on a Jem. I understand if you open the box on a none Jem you will loose Weyoun and the other items.
If that is correct, that is pretty damn shady! Not everyone will want those bank slots, etc., on a new character. Just one more reason not to waste my ZEN on this bundle. The quad's not being upgradeable goes to show how little, if any, testing was done with the contents of this pack.
I might be spitballing but I'm thinking that the Devs might have made this bundle with the intention of stabotaging "The Dominion" faction in favor of the Federation, there seems to be a Blatantly Obvious bias towards the Federation, I get it, they're the good guys, the Human faction and the most popular faction in the game, give or take 80% the playerbase has a Fed Main, I have a Fed Main myself.
Mix. Think its enough gear to go full beam and full cannon if you wanted. And you get a lot of damage consoles... and everything is mk XIV.
Ah good, not as much prep work needed in that case. Thanks.
Plus it means I can do a cruiser polaron beam build if I desire too, at minimum expense. Not to mention I traded some dil for 2k zen, plenty left ore wise but usable, not so much.
50% discount on the 50% discount.