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The Legendary Federation TOS Captain's Bundle

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Instantly boost any TOS-Era Federation Captain to level 65, and unlock the Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser! Coming next week on all platforms.


https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11496393-the-legendary-tos-federation-captain's-bundle
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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    A Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser gets a 5/3 weapon layout but not a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird Battlecruiser ?
  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 480 Arc User
    I like the TOS Miranda. Just not sure how much deflector energy I want passing though my bridge! :D
  • duasynduasyn Member Posts: 480 Arc User
    nommo#5819 wrote: »
    A Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser gets a 5/3 weapon layout but not a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird Battlecruiser ?

    I feel ya there, and agree.
  • ronthefanronthefan Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited September 2
    It's almost like you people are trying to drive me insane.
    ...to hell with it. I'm embracing madness!
    And that you devs are actually watching my ship review series.

    I spare no one and these are honest.
    ...Shuttles need to be brought up to the same standard as their fighter pet counterparts.
  • discojer2#5455 discojer2 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    I think the included 6x TOS boffs is something underrated. I was pleasantly surprised by them with the Legendary D7 pack. Especially nice how they are already trained in everything (basic), which frankly is something the game should consider for all BOFFs going forward. It makes the game much less of a hassle of having to hit the exchange or trainer to experiment with new builds.

    OTOH it would be much better if it included Ultimate Tech Upgrades instead of the enhanced ones, which are basically worthless.
    nommo#5819 wrote: »
    A Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser gets a 5/3 weapon layout but not a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird Battlecruiser ?

    Yeah, someone apparently just hates Romulans at Cryptic,
  • lordkaballordkabal Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    Hard pass for me... it ain't worth no 12k zen no matter how you claim it's an immense bundle, when in fact it is not. It's overpriced.
  • ronthefanronthefan Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    I think the included 6x TOS boffs is something underrated. I was pleasantly surprised by them with the Legendary D7 pack. Especially nice how they are already trained in everything (basic), which frankly is something the game should consider for all BOFFs going forward. It makes the game much less of a hassle of having to hit the exchange or trainer to experiment with new builds.

    OTOH it would be much better if it included Ultimate Tech Upgrades instead of the enhanced ones, which are basically worthless.
    nommo#5819 wrote: »
    A Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser gets a 5/3 weapon layout but not a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird Battlecruiser ?

    Yeah, someone apparently just hates Romulans at Cryptic,

    Well, I'm not fond of Romulans myself. Lying, cheating, secretive and manipulative Tribble-holes. Doesn't matter if they're Star Empire or Republic. The only difference is that the latter have actual sentient rights standards.
  • kellmg96#5851 kellmg96 Member Posts: 767 Arc User
    Here's what the Trait is supposed to be:


    One Big Happy Fleet (Account Unlocked Starship Trait) -

    The first damage your ship deals during combat will force that foe's shields offline for a moderate
    duration, allowing opportunity for a devastating initial volley. Thereafter,
    you will gain an increasing amount of Shield Penetration for Energy Weapons
    as long as you remain in Combat. This benefit resets when you leave combat.
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  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,044 Bug Hunter
    I kinda wish the Legenderidex also had a 5-3 weapon layout, like the Vor'cha had and now the Miranda has as well. Also, the Legenderidex doesn't even have two of the four cruiser commands while this one does. :(
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,495 Arc User
    Instantly boost any TOS-Era Federation Captain to level 65, and unlock the Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser! Coming next week on all platforms.


    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11496393-the-legendary-tos-federation-captain's-bundle

    I can see this as being very useful to very new players to the game looking to get right into the primo-action with an TOS Captain. IF HE/SHE had lots of cold hard RW $C*A*S*H$. I am trying to figure out how useful this would be to a TOS Captain who already leveled the long HARD way.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 3,760 Arc User
    nommo#5819 wrote: »
    A Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser gets a 5/3 weapon layout but not a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird Battlecruiser ?

    What use would 5/3 be to an array-based broadsider? With the way the D'D turns the enemy would almost never be in front of it except by chance anyway.
  • krwolcottkrwolcott Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    That thing about wanting to balance the Dilithium market has taken a hard tumble at the starting block, hasn't it. I've wanted an End-Game Miranda from the day I first got promoted out of my starter ship. Naturally, it's ridiculously expensive, which makes Zen the thing people want, and Dilithium the way regular people get it, which explains why the Dilithium Exchange is still pegged at over 500k sell offers. By regular, I of course mean people without hundreds or thousands of actual dollars literally begging to be set on fire inside the all-consuming forge of grind, time gates, and gambling boxes that has become the STO meta, machinery designed to take cetaceans of all sizes and crush them into coin. I like this game, don't get me wrong, and that's why this upsets me. I'm getting tired of my enjoyment of this game being leveraged against me in an effort to get my money. And it worries me that PWE and/or Cryptic would do something like this so soon after World of Warships earned the ire of most of its fan base with a much larger but just as well thought-out monetization of a former free piece of the game. It's in the nature of publishers, I guess, to push the boundaries and see what they can get away with. But please don't implode while I'm looking right at you.

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    Scout

    Also, and you can have this for free: Next April 1, all NPCs in the game protest, they're tired of being vaporized and exploded, and they refuse to take part in any other the missions. Placards and chants and bullhorns. You can't target anyone, you can't shoot people. You just have to listen. Find and replace kill objectives with talk objectives.
  • vorwodavorwoda Member Posts: 672 Arc User
    than the mighty Constitution-class Heavy Cruisers

    At least in the Miranda description page, the TOS Constitution is FINALLY properly credited as a HEAVY Cruiser instead of the insulting "Light Cruiser" it's been called in STO from the beginning. EVERY other source except STO have called it a Heavy, and at last STO is on the same page. Let's hope the in-game descriptions change as well.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 3,760 Arc User
    edited September 3
    vorwoda wrote: »
    than the mighty Constitution-class Heavy Cruisers

    At least in the Miranda description page, the TOS Constitution is FINALLY properly credited as a HEAVY Cruiser instead of the insulting "Light Cruiser" it's been called in STO from the beginning. EVERY other source except STO have called it a Heavy, and at last STO is on the same page. Let's hope the in-game descriptions change as well.

    Supposedly they call the "Temporal Light Cruiser" that because the game is from the late 24th/early 25th century viewpoint and ships have gotten bigger almost across the board, so the size of the TOS Constitution would be considered a light cruiser by then. Sort of like back in sailing ship days a frigate was a considered a sizable capital ship but is now the second smallest size class (corvette is the smallest).

    Of course, that begs the question of why they persist in calling the Miranda class a light cruiser when it was the light cruiser companion to the TOS Constitution (which was considered a battlecruiser at the time despite Starfleet calling it a heavy cruiser). By rights they should have been calling the Miranda class a destroyer if the size class designations had inflated like that.
  • ussvaliant2#1952 ussvaliant2 Member Posts: 337 Arc User
    How does cannon fodder like the Miranda get a 5/3 weapons loadout when the D'D/Galaxy Class (not counting Galaxy X) and Sovereign only get 4/4?. The T6 Miranda has one of the best boff station layouts for a cruiser as well. It's a little destroyer that needs a steroids test as it's punching way above it's weight class.

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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    nommo#5819 wrote: »
    A Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser gets a 5/3 weapon layout but not a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird Battlecruiser ?

    What use would 5/3 be to an array-based broadsider? With the way the D'D turns the enemy would almost never be in front of it except by chance anyway.

    There are certainly ways around the turn-rate, which Cryptic did improve I think by 1, but just keep glossing over the emphasis of Cryptic's own labeling: multi-mission cruiser versus warbird battlecruiser.

    Out of those two which should probably have the 5/3 weapons & which have the 4/4? Also, I don't think the Lego DD was excluded from using cannons?

    Don't get me wrong, it makes a potent little Lego Miranda probably along with its stats, but it also highlights when compared
    to the recent Lego DD a somewhat spit in the face approach of their own guidelines.

    I also found it funny though that the Styx has a better turn rate than that Lego DD.
  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 3,320 Arc User
    Instantly boost any TOS-Era Federation Captain to level 65, and unlock the Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser! Coming next week on all platforms.


    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11496393-the-legendary-tos-federation-captain's-bundle

    I can see this as being very useful to very new players to the game looking to get right into the primo-action with an TOS Captain. IF HE/SHE had lots of cold hard RW $C*A*S*H$. I am trying to figure out how useful this would be to a TOS Captain who already leveled the long HARD way.

    dont try to equate what you posted. if you have cash and want to spend it, fine. if not, dont.

    while i argue against things myself, and many often put it in terms of breaking down each unit for cost, if the sales didnt justify continual boxes and packs, then most likely they would try another avenue for revenue. suffice to say, it works.

    60 for the set, out of the gate is tolerable, to a degree. 120, nope.
    meh

  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,240 Arc User
    Instantly boost any TOS-Era Federation Captain to level 65, and unlock the Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser! Coming next week on all platforms.


    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11496393-the-legendary-tos-federation-captain's-bundle

    I can see this as being very useful to very new players to the game looking to get right into the primo-action with an TOS Captain. IF HE/SHE had lots of cold hard RW $C*A*S*H$. I am trying to figure out how useful this would be to a TOS Captain who already leveled the long HARD way.

    dont try to equate what you posted. if you have cash and want to spend it, fine. if not, dont.

    while i argue against things myself, and many often put it in terms of breaking down each unit for cost, if the sales didnt justify continual boxes and packs, then most likely they would try another avenue for revenue. suffice to say, it works.

    60 for the set, out of the gate is tolerable, to a degree. 120, nope.

    I think what they might be referring to is the fact that the "extras" in the bundle are designed for setting up a newly created character. If you are not in that position, but want the ship for an existing level-65 character, you wind up having to pay for a lot of stuff that you don't need and may never use.

    This is precisely the reason I didn't buy the Legendary Walker and D7. It had nothing to do with what the actual price was, it was that I already have 20+ level 65 characters and had no intention of creating any more unless there was a recruit event I had not already done.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,626 Arc User
    The TOS skin is fantastic. But when you already have the T6 Miranda, you are asking 120€ for a skin. Skins used to sell for 5€ back in the day. The AoY-pack sold for 150€ and offered 7 (seven) T6 ships and five <T6 ships. That's 11 ships. This right here is one ship and frankly useless filler for 120€.

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  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 3,320 Arc User
    edited September 3
    westmetals wrote: »
    Instantly boost any TOS-Era Federation Captain to level 65, and unlock the Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser! Coming next week on all platforms.


    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11496393-the-legendary-tos-federation-captain's-bundle

    I can see this as being very useful to very new players to the game looking to get right into the primo-action with an TOS Captain. IF HE/SHE had lots of cold hard RW $C*A*S*H$. I am trying to figure out how useful this would be to a TOS Captain who already leveled the long HARD way.

    dont try to equate what you posted. if you have cash and want to spend it, fine. if not, dont.

    while i argue against things myself, and many often put it in terms of breaking down each unit for cost, if the sales didnt justify continual boxes and packs, then most likely they would try another avenue for revenue. suffice to say, it works.

    60 for the set, out of the gate is tolerable, to a degree. 120, nope.

    I think what they might be referring to is the fact that the "extras" in the bundle are designed for setting up a newly created character. If you are not in that position, but want the ship for an existing level-65 character, you wind up having to pay for a lot of stuff that you don't need and may never use.

    This is precisely the reason I didn't buy the Legendary Walker and D7. It had nothing to do with what the actual price was, it was that I already have 20+ level 65 characters and had no intention of creating any more unless there was a recruit event I had not already done.

    i agree to this. it was, and has been, a bane for many players. it always comes up during any pack...but then you always have people come out and validate the cost of the pack by itemizing everything in it. :)
    meh

  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 3,320 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    The TOS skin is fantastic. But when you already have the T6 Miranda, you are asking 120€ for a skin. Skins used to sell for 5€ back in the day. The AoY-pack sold for 150€ and offered 7 (seven) T6 ships and five <T6 ships. That's 11 ships. This right here is one ship and frankly useless filler for 120€.

    Cryptic, PWE - I'm sorry, but this isn't reasonable in the slightest. pig-24.gif​​

    imma do this, just cuz... its on sale for 60 out of the gate...

    and yes, back in the day everything was cheaper...gas, cars, houses...ships, skins, etc. i have yet to see anything stay the same (aside from lifer sales) or go lower.

    (not saying to dont agree, just wanted to say it)
    meh

  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 1,439 Arc User
    edited September 3
    westmetals wrote: »
    Instantly boost any TOS-Era Federation Captain to level 65, and unlock the Legendary Miranda Multi-mission Cruiser! Coming next week on all platforms.


    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11496393-the-legendary-tos-federation-captain's-bundle

    I can see this as being very useful to very new players to the game looking to get right into the primo-action with an TOS Captain. IF HE/SHE had lots of cold hard RW $C*A*S*H$. I am trying to figure out how useful this would be to a TOS Captain who already leveled the long HARD way.

    dont try to equate what you posted. if you have cash and want to spend it, fine. if not, dont.

    while i argue against things myself, and many often put it in terms of breaking down each unit for cost, if the sales didnt justify continual boxes and packs, then most likely they would try another avenue for revenue. suffice to say, it works.

    60 for the set, out of the gate is tolerable, to a degree. 120, nope.

    I think what they might be referring to is the fact that the "extras" in the bundle are designed for setting up a newly created character. If you are not in that position, but want the ship for an existing level-65 character, you wind up having to pay for a lot of stuff that you don't need and may never use.

    This is precisely the reason I didn't buy the Legendary Walker and D7. It had nothing to do with what the actual price was, it was that I already have 20+ level 65 characters and had no intention of creating any more unless there was a recruit event I had not already done.

    Precisely. They could have done two different bundles (since they don't do non-bundle legendary ships) -- one with a focus on new captains, and another with a focus on established captains. That way they can attract two different groups of buyers without one or the other being (as) annoyed by what they're being forced to buy if they want this ship. Giving players choices always makes these bundle prices easier to justify (see: Kelvin Mudd Bundle).
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    edited September 3
    As with many of the previous packs, the ship itself would be the only thing to interest me as I do not need the extra items.
    I'll pass for now, but be sure I'm waiting for the day when the ships become available separately...
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,950 Arc User
    edited September 4
    So just like the original DD released the new one was only slightly better, in the shows it was a warship mainly using cannons but in game it's not much more than a regular cruiser. I found it really lacking and disappointing.
  • fewzzfewzz Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    The Clarke has only just come out.... will owners get a further discount because you just scammed them?
  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,199 Community Moderator
    fewzz wrote: »
    The Clarke has only just come out.... will owners get a further discount because you just scammed them?

    drop the scam talk. there is no scam here. you choose when to buy something and when you don't, they have no control over your purchasing choices.
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  • banditse1977#1368 banditse1977 Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    fewzz wrote: »
    The Clarke has only just come out.... will owners get a further discount because you just scammed them?

    drop the scam talk. there is no scam here. you choose when to buy something and when you don't, they have no control over your purchasing choices.

    Then please show us the post by PWE that indicated that they would be releasing the Clarke bundle followed by this bundle so players could make their 'purchasing choices' decision on 'choosing when to buy something and when you don't' based on what they would have liked more if they couldn't afford both or wanted/preffered only one of them ahead of these sales.

  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,240 Arc User
    fewzz wrote: »
    The Clarke has only just come out.... will owners get a further discount because you just scammed them?

    drop the scam talk. there is no scam here. you choose when to buy something and when you don't, they have no control over your purchasing choices.

    Then please show us the post by PWE that indicated that they would be releasing the Clarke bundle followed by this bundle so players could make their 'purchasing choices' decision on 'choosing when to buy something and when you don't' based on what they would have liked more if they couldn't afford both or wanted/preffered only one of them ahead of these sales.

    It's been a firm pattern that they don't announce new ship releases (except in the case of large bundles like the expansions or the 10th Anniversary pack) more than about two weeks out... which is exactly what they did this time as well.

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