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Why will you NOT be buying the Legendary Bundle?

sirsitsalotsirsitsalot Member Posts: 2,338 Arc User
In order to help Cryptic/PWE understand the metrics that may reflect unprofitable results for the bundle I thought I would post this poll to see which of the most commonly expressed reasons that you will be giving it a pass:

If you ARE going to buy this bundle, please do not lash out at those who are not. This poll thread is not intended to start a flame war. Just as a means of providing numbers.

If you vote "Other," please post your reason
Post edited by sirsitsalot on

Why will you NOT be buying the Legendary Bundle? 135 votes

Nothing in this bundle interests me
11%
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It is priced too high
39%
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I only want the ships, not the extra items
16%
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There are no T6 ships that I haven't already obtained, so those T6 coupons are useless to me.
1%
westmetalshaxxsaw#9362 2 votes
The Ships being offered do not include a ship that I want
7%
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Other.
23%
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 5,200 Arc User
    There are no T6 ships that I haven't already obtained, so those T6 coupons are useless to me.
    Now... if they would offer a ships-only version like last year....
  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    Other.
    The ships (esp. the Ambassador) look superb, but they just aren't ones I can see myself using with any kind of regularity.

    The other items are nice enough, but overall there's nowhere near enough value for me to give it any real consideration.
  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,211 Arc User
    Other.
    I went with "other" because selecting 2 options was not allowed. The two issues I have with the bundle is: price and unwanted items. I want the ships but don't need or want the ship tokens or keys. However, if the price was more reasonable, then what I don't want would be less of an issue because there would be some value in the whole bundle purchase, which there currently isn't.
  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,403 Arc User
    Other.
    All of the above.
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  • seaquest42seaquest42 Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    It is priced too high
    Plus i only want the Excelsior's Discovery skin that it.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,356 Arc User
    All of the above.

    That doesn't really work:

    - Nothing in this bundle interests me
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    - I only want the ships, not the extra items


  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps Member Posts: 188 Arc User
    I only want the ships, not the extra items
    The more they update the ships, the more appealing it is, but for me it's both the price being too high AND the unwanted items. Several of them I already have, and 1 of the 3 exclusive non-ship items is completely uninteresting to me.* Therefore, much like the level-up tokens in the Romulan and Discovery Leg Bundles putting it out of interest/reach, the price for what's left is not reasonable for me.

    *(All love for Mr. Dorn and everything he's worked so hard on, but IMO the character of Worf was written worse and worse over time, and I have no interest in a holo-BOFF of him.)
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  • thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 4,528 Arc User
    The Ships being offered do not include a ship that I want
    The only reason some legendary bundles appeal to me is the prospect of getting an account wide version of a lockbox/promo ship. Because this pack doesn't offer that, I'm simply not interested. If/when they come up with a legendary d7/etc then I'll bite.

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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,208 Arc User
    edited February 17
    Other.
    Let's see; I'm not buying this because:

    I'm only interested in two of the ships (now, was 1), and Worf.
    I have plenty of TX Upgrades and don't need more.
    The Ult Upgrades are okay, but I don't need any.
    The Keys, The Promo-Boxes and the Lobi are utterly worthless to me nowadays since they have started going with account-unlocked stuff. (Yes, yes, I know I could get EC, but it's of extremely limited value to me after 10 years of playing).
    The rest is just pointless trash I have zero interest in.

    Cryptic have completely over-estimated the value of the package to the player. They've taken an arbitrary 'discounted' price and 'discounted' it again and then pretended it's 'value for money', just like they did with the Premium 10 Fed Ship Pack. That 'fluff' was worth 10k apparently, and it's similar with this.

    What's more grating is that they can have their will bent to change stats, but won't release a ship only pack like they did with the Fed pack........and not only that.....they did this with full knowledge that they'd get this reaction, as evident from the prior backlashes.

    EDIT: I should add that I have nearly all variants of the ships, except the Excelsior, so the value for money of the pack is even less to me.
    Post edited by leemwatson on
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  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 1,941 Arc User
    edited February 17
    The Ships being offered do not include a ship that I want
    if and when legendary ships get the ability to be purchased solo, i will never bite.

    unless they offered a mix and match like mudd, say, one klink, on fed, etc...even then it would be based on what list you can choose from.

    so i guess i will be waiting for a very very long time. lol
    meh

  • dragon200052dragon200052 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    Other.
    I also went with other due to being unable to select more than one option.
    Primarily Im not buying this due to the number of items in it that I do not care for that make the bundle bloated and way too expensive.
    Additionally I suspect the price might be too high even if there was just a ships version and only two of the four currently interest me being the excelsior and perhaps the Vor'cha.
    As such this makes the bundle very unappealing and as much as im not one to chase after numbers there are better ships with the same playstyles for cheaper than these will be.
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,727 Arc User
    Other.
    I could have went with I only want the ships, but I don't want all the ships so chose other.

    I'm only really interested in a two of the ships -notably the Excelsior and Vor'cha. I would be interested in the B'rel if it wasn't terrible, but alas it's doa with that weapon load out. Other then the ships the rest of the stuff is just overpriced junk to inflate the price.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 8,778 Arc User
    I'm only interested in the 2 KDF ships, nothing else.
  • vanhyovanhyo Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    If i actually had the extra money to spend, i still wouldnt spend it

    Very old bugs constantly destroy my everyday sto experience, okey i understand my ships sometimes spit off stuff into my inventory, i understand that my traits get unslotted for no reason at all BUT WHY THE SHIP LOADING ALSO FORGET THE TRAITS I HAVE SAVED!!!SAVED!!!SAVED!!!SAVED!! ONTOP OF IT ALL ??

    To be honest, i have come to the conclusion that this is intentional, or if it is not intentional then whatever is saved can be unsaved and lost forever, so good luck injecting money on that.

    Imagine if you had a game when you click "save" then you click "load" oh sorry, what you saved cannot be loaded because its lost.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,208 Arc User
    Other.
    vanhyo wrote: »
    If i actually had the extra money to spend, i still wouldnt spend it

    Very old bugs constantly destroy my everyday sto experience, okey i understand my ships sometimes spit off stuff into my inventory, i understand that my traits get unslotted for no reason at all BUT WHY THE SHIP LOADING ALSO FORGET THE TRAITS I HAVE SAVED!!!SAVED!!!SAVED!!!SAVED!! ONTOP OF IT ALL ??

    To be honest, i have come to the conclusion that this is intentional, or if it is not intentional then whatever is saved can be unsaved and lost forever, so good luck injecting money on that.

    Imagine if you had a game when you click "save" then you click "load" oh sorry, what you saved cannot be loaded because its lost.

    These bugs are not intentional, no bugs ever are unless someone is up to no good. The issues you describe are most likely related to the Account server not correctly updating your account with the changes. It's one bug that unfortunately affects a number of UI systems.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • snowwolf#0563 snowwolf Member Posts: 1,014 Arc User
    Nothing in this bundle interests me
    The only ship you need is a Galaxy Class, hehe.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 52,984 Community Moderator
    I'm only going to say this once. Keep it civil. You guys are free to express your opinions, but the second I or the other mods see this turning into a flame war its getting shut down. So please keep the flamethrowers in the locker.
    If someone tries to get aggressive over this... please try and put a lid on it or report.
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  • bubblegirl2015bubblegirl2015 Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited February 17
    Other.
    Other...

    Keeping it CIVIL.
    One word: BUGS.

    Ever since they introduced the event patch this MMO has been with bugs. For some like me it is a major turn off when they can't even FIX things like DOFF donation to fleet projects, broken dilithium bonus or the errors in the KDF recruitment system.

    I'm not paying for something broken. Just IMO
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  • cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 844 Arc User
    edited February 17
    It is priced too high
    It seems to overpriced for what you get, the fluff is mostly a gamble. I assume most of the fluff is once per account, so while the lobi and the ultimate upgrades are nice the only way I see them maintaining the value of the bundle is if they are claimable for each character on my account. But they are likely one time unlock, which lowers their overall value with in the bundle by quite a bit, also only one maybe two traits seem even remotely useful for the multitude builds I currently maintain in the game, also lowering the value of the bundle.
  • jennycolvinjennycolvin Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    Other.
    - The ships are not on a "Legendary" levels.
    - It should have been a Klingon bundle, (smaller than last year's, but still Klingon);
    - The price they ask is completely insane;
    - There's not "just the ships" version of the bundle;
    - This whole ordeal is a joke.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 5,829 Arc User
    I only want the ships, not the extra items
    Unlike the 2020 bundle every ship is a variant of an existing C-Store ship, AND the bundle is stuffed full of junk I have no interest in that's only there to inflate the price to Cryptic's desired price point. No thank you Cryptic, no thank you.
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  • whistlerdavidwhistlerdavid Member Posts: 271 Arc User
    The Ships being offered do not include a ship that I want
    i should have picked other. their was a few reasons i am not buying
  • doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 685 Arc User
    Other.
    pretty much other for all other then one of the above
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  • jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 341 Arc User
    It is priced too high
    While the fluff inflates the price, the main problem is the price, all the extras would be nice if the price was a lot lower
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,037 Arc User
    I only want the ships, not the extra items
    The truth is that nothing in this bundle interests me, but I voted as if I was interested in the bundle. No matter what was in it, I won't pay extra for bloat that I don't want.
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  • varthelmvarthelm Member Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited February 18
    Other.
    All of the reasons except the first.

    I am interested in the Vorcha and I can make the B'rel work even if its still less then it could have been....its pretty much all the other reasons. Some of the fluff I might actually use but a lot of it is pretty useless. I guess my issue is one most people have....perceived value.

    They just sold us C-store versions of the Ambassador and Vorcha...now I got to pay much more for tweaked versions of the same ships? They just sold us Miracle worker cruisers in the last big Legendary pack...why do I need another? All of these are reworked C-store ships, not reworked promo and lockbox ships we saw in other packs. And you're gonna give me less of them?

    With one hell of a Zen sale I might think about it because I am a fanboy but its a pretty terrible proposition at face value.

    I have the feeling changing the b'rel to 5/1 would instantly change many people's opinion on this....they'd still hate it, but I think many would suck it up and buy it. My two cents anyway.

    One last thought for Cryptic/PWE.....please take this as (mostly) well intentioned feedback. We are posting because there is demand for a good bundle. If we didn't, you'd be hearing crickets.
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,403 Arc User
    Other.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    All of the above.

    That doesn't really work:

    - Nothing in this bundle interests me
    condradicts
    - I only want the ships, not the extra items

    The point being? There is no multiple choice option.

    I'll fix that then...

    All of the above except for "Nothing in this bundle interests me."

    That work for you?
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,475 Arc User
    Other.
    For me it's a few things

    The pricing is too high
    Don't need the extra fluff
    The Brel should be 5/1: It's totally inferior to the Temer
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  • garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 851 Arc User
    Nothing in this bundle interests me
    Frankly, I am not interested in anything that isn't a Rom ship, so nothing in this bundle interests me. Even if I did want any, or all, of the ships, I would not pay this outrageous price, and I would not pay for all the fluff I have no interest in.
  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 963 Arc User
    Other.
    Other:
    As much as the ships are decent....no D7, no dollars.
    Especially at that price.
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