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please put up legendary ships for individual sale
telbasta7386
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I really dont care about all the fluff and junk you guys add to the legendary packs to pad the price up to ridiculous amounts. In an attempt to make more money, you're actually turning people away from buying at all by forcing them to pay for a bunch of TRIBBLE they don't need to get a ship that isn't anywhere near worth a 120$ price tag.
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> This. If they sold them individually the ships would be like 60 bucks each, on a good day.
I was going to say $45 or $50, but an increased price for sure! After all, they are a better version of the T6 counterparts.
Now I’m actually scared they would be $60 a piece!
The ten ship bundle is $300, charging almost half that for a single ship would be outrageously overpriced no matter what ship it is. If they did someday sell them individually then I think $45 each would be a reasonable price since that's 50% more per ship than buying the bundle. I could maybe see the Connies and Crossfield going for $60 each if they insisted on putting an extra premium on them, but imo that would be too much.
And just to be clear, I already own the bundle anyway so I don't get anything out of it if they do start selling them individually.
Nonsense.
This isn't a request for a new ship. It's a request for a ship that already exists.
It would require approximately no additional development on their behalf to put assets that are already made, working, and live for sale on the store as a separate item, or as part of a different bundle.
Moreover, how can you, or anyone else possibly determine what players want if alternative options are never provided to them? Customers can only ever buy what is for sale. I can't believe this actually requires explanation.
Do people buy these bundles? Sure. That doesn't mean they wouldn't prefer to buy something else if they had the option, and you can't possibly know that they wouldn't unless you provided both, or multiple options for similar products.
Car manufacturers, for instance, make multiple iterations of essentially the same vehicle. They have very slightly different designations, and some come with all the bells and whistles, while others come with the standard minimum, and sometimes there's even an in-between option, or some additional special edition. The car manufacturers could just as easily made only one version of the vehicle, then said "well people are buying it, so we don't need to offer any alternatives," and they'd have lost out on all the additional sales the alternative options have provided.
Again, the fact that this requires explanation is sad.
They’re special and should be priced as such.
I bought the legendary dreadnought at 60$ and was perfectly fine with that. It came with a bunch of past galaxy/dread consoles i was missing, and basically 3 ship traits, which is perfectly fitting for 60$. I wouldve paid that much even if it didn't come with the doff, pet, and phaser pistols (none of which im even using).
The Romulan legendary is the next one I'd like to pick up, but i don't need some level 65 character boost and a bunch of equipment and boffs im going to replace anyways; i just want the ship, with its traits and consoles, and that isn't worth 120$ to me. If cryptic offered the ship/traits/consoles without all the additional character junk, they'd be getting 60$, but instead they're getting nothing.
Edit: stupid autocorrect thinks im talking about Romans lol
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If you could buy the legend ships separately I would buy some zen and get one.
Guess I'll have to spend my money elsewhere this year as the legend packs are way out of my price range
> 10 ship lego bundle for $200 (discounted)? Easy buy. Do this for Romulans and it's another $200. When I basically don't spend money on this game anymore because I have everything I need this is about the only way to keep getting money from me it seems, but I'm not going to pay for the padding OP is complaining about either.
Yea I'm not at all talking about the 10 leg ship bundle. I won't buy it but that's because i have no interest in most of those ships in the first place.
The "extra premium" on the Connies/etc, is that they're $200+ promo ships. Being able to get them in a $300 pack without randomness was the Super Cheap Option. So of course, if they ever dared to directly sell one, it'd be 150 minimum.
Except they AREN'T the Promo ships, their builds are completely different and many consider the Legendary versions to be worse than the Lockbox versions (I personally think the Legendary JJPrise is better than the Lockbox version since it's Intel and I love that spec, but I agree the Legendary NX and possibly TOS Connie are inferior to their Lobi/Promo versions).
That would be absolutely ludicrous. As I said $45 would be the proper price, $60 only if they insist on putting an extra premium on these sub-par variants. The absolute max I could see is $120, and that's only if they put it in a level 65 boost bundle like the Legendary T'Liss, but I'd honestly expect a TOS or 2409 Fed bundle to have new ships, especially since they need to appeal to people who own the 10 ship bundle (maybe a TOS inspired Miranda for a TOS bundle?). The safe bet is that they'll never break up the bundle into individual sales, but I have to wonder if they'll eventually hit a point where bundle sales taper off to a point that opening up individual sales would net more money.
The point of T6 Connies isn't the builds they have. It's being able to fly the costume. That is what's being sold/gambled/etc for $200.
edit: heck, that's the point of pretty much all of the most-desired ship updates. The "where's our T6 Nova?!?" people aren't looking for a better Science layout, they want to fly a Nova. I've been wanting to see a T6 Stargazer/Cheyenne/Dakota not because there's a lack of decent T6 Cruisers, but because I want to fly that appearance. Etc.
If this new super bloated rip off bundle that drops tomorrow sells well, then any slim chance of individual sale will be stone dead.
Simply put, there is no reason for them to do this if people will pay for the bloated bundle.
Personally, I don't think it will happen either way, but if it did then yes.. I would expect legendary ships to be around $60 individually and people would pay it. It's twice the price of a C-Store ship but about half the average price of a promo ship if you used all cash.
And I sincerely hope THIS bundle is a complete failure, I don't want Cryptic getting the idea that we're willing to buy bundles with tons of junk stuffed in to inflate the price. I was happy to buy the 10th Anniversary bundle, but not the abomination they've given us this year. Hell, part of the appeal with last year's bundle was that half of the ships had previously only existed as Promo, Lockbox, or Lobi variants, but this one is just ships that have always been C-Store.
It wasn't 2/3 off, the base 10th Anniversary bundle was 30k zen, while the Premium bundle that was stuffed with junk was 45k zen, so it was 1/3 off. Here's last year's blog, the pricing is all listed at the bottom:
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11355993-10th-anniversary-legendary-starship-bundles
If I may get on my relevant soapbox for a moment; I really dislike the new Legendary 'starter' packs. Leveling a new character is something I savor - the level 30 bracket is probably my favorite/best balanced experience in the game. A bundle that massively inflates the price to remove that experience is a non-starter for me. Now, I can hear the counter-argument of "just don't use the level-boost then", but why should I pay that price point for something I would never use? Sadly, I suspect the Legendary D7 will probably fall into this category as well - meaning I simply will not buy it.
I will give kudos to the Legendary Mirror bundle though, that is/was an excellent way to handle a single legendary ship offer(perhaps even excessive, but I won't complain about it being in the consumer's favor). I'd love to see a KDF version of it with a Legendary Mirror Negh'var 'Warship' and Mirror-Klingon goodies.