I am not a fan of J'ula and not a big fan of taking over an NPC, because it's not my character, not my build.
But I really enjoyed the story and the Klingon mythology involved here.
I figure the whole "Klingon soul" thing is just that the Klingons actually have some mild psychic abilities and it's kinda like the Vulcan katra stuff, or the idea of "Akashic Memory" - the Klingons delve into their collective memory - their mythology - and this helps them pick up some semblance of a brain pattern of a long dead person and imprint it in the empty mind of a fast-grown clone (that naturally couldn't form a person because he was in a cloning apparatus, not in a womb, born and growing up naturally. Whether that means it's actually the real character, or a new creation remains undecided.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
From what I am reading here, I am not looking forward to these new missions coming to console. The only mission where I didn't mind playing as an NPC was the Ferengi mission in the Iconian arc, but even then, there is no reason to replay the mission.
I will play the mission to get any unique rewards and then leave it to gather dust once it comes to console. No rush though.
The story still remains completely incomprehensible. Remind me again why as a Fed I am involved in this? And in particular are in any way involved with anything "Klingon Game of Thrones" that does not constitute leaving J'ula in hell permanently? Remember as the not always friendly opposing power on the Galactic Stage we have come to terms with J'mpok and actually like Martok. Under no circumstances would we ever allow J'ula to get anywhere near Quo'nos while still breathing. We still have 200 year old arrest warrants out on her for Genocidal War Crimes. And bringing the other chick back from the dead? Yeah no, that's the sort of thing we have Section 31 to STOP. Why hasn't Drake showed up and told us "When the Klingons take you to hell we want you to plant this Protomatter Bomb in Hell's Toilet, than run, as they say, like Hell"
For the same reason you can be as a Romulan. The Klingon Empire is part of an alliance with the Federation, and Romulan Republic, and the whole point of alliances like that is so, when in need, they will come to assist you. Not only that, but the Klingon Civil War has spilled outside the borders of the Empire, and has threatened people of both the Federation, and Romulan Republic. So, it's their duty to see this settled so attacks stop. And J'mpok directly attacked Alliance HQ, and attempted to kill Federation, Romulan Republic, and Dominion, personnel, making him a direct enemy to all three powers, and destroying any sort of diplomatic efforts he may have made. Not to mention, us being the big damn hero of the galaxy made us a high target for J'mpok to frame, and attack, to try to remove us from the equation. Which in turn means its become personal for us as well. Like... why wouldn't we be involved?
Also, J'ula has, quite literally, done nothing even bordering on genocide. Before she came to the future she
Attacked a Starfleet vessel in order to find Federation military secrets(Discovery tutorial)
Helped rescue one of her allies from a Federation prison facility where they were keeping Klingon POWs(The Plausibility of the Possible)
Attacked the USS Glenn to get the Federation military secrets she was looking for before(Secrets)
Attacked a Federation Starbase using a weapon she made from said Federation secrets, after it had already been evacuated of all civilians(Downfall)
And since her arrival in the future she has
Opened a rift above Andoria to send probes into the Mycelial Realm, so she can get more spores. She didn't even try to attack Andoria itself, despite having ample opportunity to do so(Beneath the Skin)
Argued that Martok should be Chancellor because J'mpok didn't actually kill him, and tried to attack a shipyard with her weapon, for Akaar to have the beam hit the planet instead(The Centre Cannot Hold)
Used her weapon on an uninhabited moon to try to stop our attack as part of a military action(To Hell with Honor)
Helped us, despite not liking us, fight back against J'mpok who had gone crazy, and was using the weapon to attack anything(everything since then)
At literally no point did she ever even try to commit genocide. All of her actions have been basic military actions against military targets.
Hell, compared to other STO villains like B'vat, Hakeev, Sela, T'ket, and Noye, who all outright attempted to commit massive, planetary destruction and genocide... J'ula's actions are largely tame, and honestly pretty basic things one would expect during a war in a universe with tech like Star Trek.
You seem to have missed the bit where she destroyed a Federation Starbase, with everyone aboard, right in front of us, the Player Characters. "Strike At Seedea" Patrol mission. And from the briefings we get through the holo recreations and simulations we get all through Age of Discovery and J'Ula's Discovery it's made pretty clear that the Federation holds her as fully complicit in what they view as her brothers crimes.
The Prime Directive does not apply to the Klingon's. They exist in the realm of Realpolitik so far as the Federation is concerned. Yes they want the Klingon Civil War settled as it destabilizes the region. But they aren't impartial regarding the outcome. They want someone who will not re-ignite the Klingon Federation War. J'Ula is unlikely to be on their short list for such people that they can "work with".
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
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"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Sometimes the realities of politics requires people to work with people they dislike. that said I mean.. whats the alternative, having these episodes be klingon exclusive?
what crimes did t'kuvma even commit, anyway? from the point we were first introduced to him to the point of his death, all he really did was commit interstellar battery by attacking the shenzhou and started a war - that's basically it
and killing phillipa georgiou, i suppose, but she WAS armed and war had already started by that point, so that would be considered killing an enemy combatant
even IF the federation were in the habit of lumping an entire family's crimes on one individual (which they aren't - the federation did not evolve from north korea), that's barely any more added to what j'ula already did
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
what crimes did t'kuvma even commit, anyway? from the point we were first introduced to him to the point of his death, all he really did was commit interstellar battery by attacking the shenzhou and started a war - that's basically it
Oh, that's all?
He started an interstellar war, killed a Starfleet Admiral, then killed and ate a Starfleet Captain.. but yeah.. the Feds are likely cool with him.
Just because those crimes were committed during a war, that doesn't somehow give him a pass. Especially considering that he started said war to begin with.
and how, pray tell did he manage to kill and eat a starfleet captain when the only person he killed was georgiou, and he himself was killed less than a minute later?
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
story like as a rule...great
playing someone else...i was intrigued, nothing more.
artwork...awesome
mob bum rush fight scenes...utter BS. as someone said, the zerg rush ruined the first mission for me as a whole.
i did it on advanced. died a few times until i figured out a few things. yes, they shoot through the walls and pillars and such. sucks butt. however, if you use mainly melee and target the small fodder, it seems to lessen the aggravation of the fighting.
now, for a negative and possible confrontational aspect. great voice for the munk...but why always the long drawn out speaking? a few times i was ok with, but its really too dull for me. i got bored of him talking after a time.
not looking forward to part 2 from the reading, but soon.
I enjoyed part 2, hated part 1.
I can see why some didn’t like either part, but either way.. the 2nd part is far better then the first.
I still dont think it makes much sense for a Disco protag to work with J'ula. Money would prefer to have her head for what she did to Schaefer
It's a case of "I might not like you, but in this case YOU are the lesser evil" for DSC character (or FED character is general), I mean there's a dialogue option that says "this doesn't make us friends" in Khitomer, we're helping her because for all she's done, she's a better option then J'mpok. Remember that forgiveness and tolerance are core values of the United Federation of Planets.
I haven't done the second mission yet, but I have to agree, the first was awful. I died several times on normal difficulty, I can only imagine how painful this mission is on advanced/elite. Way too many tedious enemy groups to go through. Why? What the hell is my character doing?
Now unlike some people I don't mind missions like this, when they are done right. Renegade's regret you get plenty of OP abilities to lay waste to the enemies quickly and they are never likely to bring you down. J'ula, though, is made of crumpled paper and while her abilities are good they aren't nearly as powerful for the sheer volume of enemies we fight.
J'ula is also not a sympathetic character. I don't really want to play as her, because she isn't redeeming herself or realizing the error of her ways, she's just continuing on doing what she's always wanted to do. J'mpok is no saint either, obviously, but it isn't about who is right, it is simply like sitting through a murder trial where the murderer is trying to get you to believe that murdering all those people was important for the greater good, and that greater good may well exist, but the methods are clearly just wrong. The whole time I'm playing J'ula I'm remembering the past encounters with her while the mission is sort of building her up as some important chess piece, and that doesn't work for me.
As for complaints about clones and souls, well, for all we know the lava powers a transporter buffer to materialize a clone. And Star Trek has already established souls do exist in ST3 if not sooner. STO has also given us the Klingon Afterlife for all its strangeness, and I wish it would stay ambiguous, but it isn't new. It obviously should have been done closer to ST3 where little Spock is sort of mindless but ambulatory, not just an unconscious slab of meat. It is one of the weaker parts of this story for sure.
Overall, the first episode is bad gameplay and meh story. I should manage the second tonight to see where that goes.
J'ula is also not a sympathetic character. I don't really want to play as her, because she isn't redeeming herself or realizing the error of her ways, she's just continuing on doing what she's always wanted to do. J'mpok is no saint either, obviously, but it isn't about who is right, it is simply like sitting through a murder trial where the murderer is trying to get you to believe that murdering all those people was important for the greater good, and that greater good may well exist, but the methods are clearly just wrong. The whole time I'm playing J'ula I'm remembering the past encounters with her while the mission is sort of building her up as some important chess piece, and that doesn't work for me.
Exactly, instead of her going 'I might have gone a little overboard there' her whole 'redemtion arc' is: You have been wrong all the time, and i can do no wrong. The whole 'redemtion' isn't presented as two sides of a medal, it more like 'I was the hero all along, and you have to accept it'.
It's a shame, this could have been a good mission, the voiceover and acting is really good, the graphics and artwork are good (given the age of the game). A little less enemy waves (they get annoying real quick) and it would have been a pretty decent mission. But noooo they had to force us to play as one of the (in my opinion) most unlikeably characters in all of STO. Playing as someone else than my char is bad enough, playing as her made it sooo much worse.
Sadly for me this is now the new 'worst mission in game'. And only because they seem to think if people express their dislike in J'Ula, the best thing they can do is push even harder to show us how 'great' and 'awesome' she actually is.
Side note 1: Why is J'ula allowed to 'cheat' the timestone thing? Captain Pike HAD to take the first stone he touched, regardless of the dark future it was showing him. J'ula is given a very dark future in the first one, an is like 'Nah, i'll take that other one instead, that one is much cooler anyways'. wtf?! That's very bad writing...
Side note 2: I haven't played the second mission but by the looks of it we now get a 'recycled' Klingon Chancelor? C'mon STO you are better than this, please be a little bit more creative and give us someone interessting instead of just recyceling stuff that was already on TV...thats boring AF
J'ula is also not a sympathetic character. I don't really want to play as her, because she isn't redeeming herself or realizing the error of her ways, she's just continuing on doing what she's always wanted to do. J'mpok is no saint either, obviously, but it isn't about who is right, it is simply like sitting through a murder trial where the murderer is trying to get you to believe that murdering all those people was important for the greater good, and that greater good may well exist, but the methods are clearly just wrong. The whole time I'm playing J'ula I'm remembering the past encounters with her while the mission is sort of building her up as some important chess piece, and that doesn't work for me.
Exactly, instead of her going 'I might have gone a little overboard there' her whole 'redemtion arc' is: You have been wrong all the time, and i can do no wrong. The whole 'redemtion' isn't presented as two sides of a medal, it more like 'I was the hero all along, and you have to accept it'.
It's a shame, this could have been a good mission, the voiceover and acting is really good, the graphics and artwork are good (given the age of the game). A little less enemy waves (they get annoying real quick) and it would have been a pretty decent mission. But noooo they had to force us to play as one of the (in my opinion) most unlikeably characters in all of STO. Playing as someone else than my char is bad enough, playing as her made it sooo much worse.
Sadly for me this is now the new 'worst mission in game'. And only because they seem to think if people express their dislike in J'Ula, the best thing they can do is push even harder to show us how 'great' and 'awesome' she actually is.
Side note 1: Why is J'ula allowed to 'cheat' the timestone thing? Captain Pike HAD to take the first stone he touched, regardless of the dark future it was showing him. J'ula is given a very dark future in the first one, an is like 'Nah, i'll take that other one instead, that one is much cooler anyways'. wtf?! That's very bad writing...
Side note 2: I haven't played the second mission but by the looks of it we now get a 'recycled' Klingon Chancelor? C'mon STO you are better than this, please be a little bit more creative and give us someone interessting instead of just recyceling stuff that was already on TV...thats boring AF
To be fair, you just said it - Pike TOOK the Crystal. I don't think J'ula actually took any Crystal - she just touched it, and as per DSC, touching has a lesser effect than actually breaking off and removing one.
point. and i dont recall seeing her actually take one. as per your statement, and the mish, it seems she took the latter of the two, but i dont recall a visual that she actually did. i dont even recall if any voice overs said she did either.
Tenavik even states that taking the crystal is what seals your fate, merely touching one seems to give a vision of a potential future.
And yea J'Ula only touches Crystals (she intentionally touches one and then while panicking about her vision accidently touches another).
Wait... why are we cloning L'rell? what happened to making Kahless III, I thought they were planning on making another Kahless clone after the last one idiotically committed suicide trying to fight against an Iconian, WTF happened to only a fool fights in a burning house, hopefully the next Kahless clone will be both buff & smart, unless that story arc was aborted.
Finished part 1. It looks great but I didn't enjoy that AT ALL. Apart from the fact that I don't get why J'Ula is suddenly the good guy, she's a terrible character with terrible gear and skills and she dies A LOT. My most successful tactic to get through the mission was run away and let my minions do the fighting like any true Klingon warrior. In fact during the fight with boggle-eyes I had to take a call and they had finished the fight for me while I was in respawn. Suffice to say I will never be replaying that one for any reason.
Wait... why are we cloning L'rell? what happened to making Kahless III, I thought they were planning on making another Kahless clone after the last one idiotically committed suicide trying to fight against an Iconian, WTF happened to only a fool fights in a burning house, hopefully the next Kahless clone will be both buff & smart, unless that story arc was aborted.
This is the first time I've heard of making Kahless III as for L'Rell, Tenavik explained it in the story itself, Kahless II was the warrior the Empire needed at the time, L'Rell is the warrior the Empire needs now.
As for the out of universe reason, I suspect it was way to get Mary Chieffo into the game without ending up with another time travel story. IIRC the actor who played Kahless in TNG is either dead or retired. (yeah I checked and Kevin Conway who played the clone of Kahless died about a year ago).
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"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Kahless III was a throwaway line at the end of Home - J'mpok mentioned the high council was considering making another clone of him
I'm guessing that went nowhere then, or maybe they're saving it for another time. Throwaway lines like that doesn't have to mean they're seriously planning anything at the time the line was written, at most it could be Future Proofing in-case they want to bring that character back.
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I still dont think it makes much sense for a Disco protag to work with J'ula. Money would prefer to have her head for what she did to Schaefer
It's a case of "I might not like you, but in this case YOU are the lesser evil" for DSC character (or FED character is general), I mean there's a dialogue option that says "this doesn't make us friends" in Khitomer, we're helping her because for all she's done, she's a better option then J'mpok. Remember that forgiveness and tolerance are core values of the United Federation of Planets.
Yea... my headcanon for my DSC character is that she was eager to hunt down J'Ula, until Khitomer happened. She's now basically in the mindset of "You don't like me, and I don't like you. That's probably not going to change. But after what J'mpok pulled... I'm willing to set asside our differences. I'm not letting you off the hook for Captain Schaefer, but... not like we got many options right now."
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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But I really enjoyed the story and the Klingon mythology involved here.
I figure the whole "Klingon soul" thing is just that the Klingons actually have some mild psychic abilities and it's kinda like the Vulcan katra stuff, or the idea of "Akashic Memory" - the Klingons delve into their collective memory - their mythology - and this helps them pick up some semblance of a brain pattern of a long dead person and imprint it in the empty mind of a fast-grown clone (that naturally couldn't form a person because he was in a cloning apparatus, not in a womb, born and growing up naturally. Whether that means it's actually the real character, or a new creation remains undecided.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I will play the mission to get any unique rewards and then leave it to gather dust once it comes to console. No rush though.
You seem to have missed the bit where she destroyed a Federation Starbase, with everyone aboard, right in front of us, the Player Characters. "Strike At Seedea" Patrol mission. And from the briefings we get through the holo recreations and simulations we get all through Age of Discovery and J'Ula's Discovery it's made pretty clear that the Federation holds her as fully complicit in what they view as her brothers crimes.
The Prime Directive does not apply to the Klingon's. They exist in the realm of Realpolitik so far as the Federation is concerned. Yes they want the Klingon Civil War settled as it destabilizes the region. But they aren't impartial regarding the outcome. They want someone who will not re-ignite the Klingon Federation War. J'Ula is unlikely to be on their short list for such people that they can "work with".
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
and killing phillipa georgiou, i suppose, but she WAS armed and war had already started by that point, so that would be considered killing an enemy combatant
even IF the federation were in the habit of lumping an entire family's crimes on one individual (which they aren't - the federation did not evolve from north korea), that's barely any more added to what j'ula already did
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Oh, that's all?
He started an interstellar war, killed a Starfleet Admiral, then killed and ate a Starfleet Captain.. but yeah.. the Feds are likely cool with him.
Just because those crimes were committed during a war, that doesn't somehow give him a pass. Especially considering that he started said war to begin with.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I enjoyed part 2, hated part 1.
I can see why some didn’t like either part, but either way.. the 2nd part is far better then the first.
It's a case of "I might not like you, but in this case YOU are the lesser evil" for DSC character (or FED character is general), I mean there's a dialogue option that says "this doesn't make us friends" in Khitomer, we're helping her because for all she's done, she's a better option then J'mpok. Remember that forgiveness and tolerance are core values of the United Federation of Planets.
Now unlike some people I don't mind missions like this, when they are done right. Renegade's regret you get plenty of OP abilities to lay waste to the enemies quickly and they are never likely to bring you down. J'ula, though, is made of crumpled paper and while her abilities are good they aren't nearly as powerful for the sheer volume of enemies we fight.
J'ula is also not a sympathetic character. I don't really want to play as her, because she isn't redeeming herself or realizing the error of her ways, she's just continuing on doing what she's always wanted to do. J'mpok is no saint either, obviously, but it isn't about who is right, it is simply like sitting through a murder trial where the murderer is trying to get you to believe that murdering all those people was important for the greater good, and that greater good may well exist, but the methods are clearly just wrong. The whole time I'm playing J'ula I'm remembering the past encounters with her while the mission is sort of building her up as some important chess piece, and that doesn't work for me.
As for complaints about clones and souls, well, for all we know the lava powers a transporter buffer to materialize a clone. And Star Trek has already established souls do exist in ST3 if not sooner. STO has also given us the Klingon Afterlife for all its strangeness, and I wish it would stay ambiguous, but it isn't new. It obviously should have been done closer to ST3 where little Spock is sort of mindless but ambulatory, not just an unconscious slab of meat. It is one of the weaker parts of this story for sure.
Overall, the first episode is bad gameplay and meh story. I should manage the second tonight to see where that goes.
Exactly, instead of her going 'I might have gone a little overboard there' her whole 'redemtion arc' is: You have been wrong all the time, and i can do no wrong. The whole 'redemtion' isn't presented as two sides of a medal, it more like 'I was the hero all along, and you have to accept it'.
It's a shame, this could have been a good mission, the voiceover and acting is really good, the graphics and artwork are good (given the age of the game). A little less enemy waves (they get annoying real quick) and it would have been a pretty decent mission. But noooo they had to force us to play as one of the (in my opinion) most unlikeably characters in all of STO. Playing as someone else than my char is bad enough, playing as her made it sooo much worse.
Sadly for me this is now the new 'worst mission in game'. And only because they seem to think if people express their dislike in J'Ula, the best thing they can do is push even harder to show us how 'great' and 'awesome' she actually is.
Side note 1: Why is J'ula allowed to 'cheat' the timestone thing? Captain Pike HAD to take the first stone he touched, regardless of the dark future it was showing him. J'ula is given a very dark future in the first one, an is like 'Nah, i'll take that other one instead, that one is much cooler anyways'. wtf?! That's very bad writing...
Side note 2: I haven't played the second mission but by the looks of it we now get a 'recycled' Klingon Chancelor? C'mon STO you are better than this, please be a little bit more creative and give us someone interessting instead of just recyceling stuff that was already on TV...thats boring AF
Tenavik even states that taking the crystal is what seals your fate, merely touching one seems to give a vision of a potential future.
And yea J'Ula only touches Crystals (she intentionally touches one and then while panicking about her vision accidently touches another).
But I respawn
I am duranium!
As for the out of universe reason, I suspect it was way to get Mary Chieffo into the game without ending up with another time travel story. IIRC the actor who played Kahless in TNG is either dead or retired. (yeah I checked and Kevin Conway who played the clone of Kahless died about a year ago).
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I'm guessing that went nowhere then, or maybe they're saving it for another time. Throwaway lines like that doesn't have to mean they're seriously planning anything at the time the line was written, at most it could be Future Proofing in-case they want to bring that character back.
Yea... my headcanon for my DSC character is that she was eager to hunt down J'Ula, until Khitomer happened. She's now basically in the mindset of "You don't like me, and I don't like you. That's probably not going to change. But after what J'mpok pulled... I'm willing to set asside our differences. I'm not letting you off the hook for Captain Schaefer, but... not like we got many options right now."
normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
colored text = mod mode