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another skills invalid? WTF?

keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
edited August 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
really? another skills invalid?

what the hell is going on cryptic? this is getting pathetic...
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  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    I was about to post this same thing...it's beyond funny at this point

    I refuse to get re-skilling every toon, just to have it reset again a few weeks later
  • pwdmcbpwdmcb Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    Its a sign of ineptitude on the part of the devs. Just like all the unresolved bugs , they refuse to fix. I would rather they make no new events, no new ships, and no new missions, until they fix as many of the bugs as they can.
  • pwdmcbpwdmcb Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    I personally will not be playing or supporting this game anymore, until they sort the game bugs out.
  • doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Yeah was about to post this, I think pathetic is spoken out nicely...
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee
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    Maybe it will be this way after any patch for a bit? Oh well, another free Skill Tree respec I guess?
  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    While I might accept that fixing a bug required a patch that caused this problem yet again, it is unconscionable that they didn't have the courtesy to warn players or even make an official announcement.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    Are you serious? This can't be for real. Even being super efficient at respec, this takes so much time. Wow just wow.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    I just ignore it and play on. The Wonderland doesn't require skills and in the TFOs for the event I didn't notice a change in performance pig-2.gif​​
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    I think maybe I'm going to take a break from STO, and focus on Factorio...
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  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,253 Arc User
    As far as I can see its safe to ignore. I never respeced last time and couldn't see any downside.
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    There's no heads up about this happening. There's no fix to stop the respec from wiping away all Personal Ground & Space Traits and Starship Traits. There's no end to this either. Just pure greed riding on a broken space casino while they nerf and power-sell what you think you had into obsolescence.
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  • litchy74litchy74 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    Log in race log out, hope that helps the metrics..... because you getting nothing else from me, not a pennny.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,667 Community Moderator
    edited December 2020
    Sounds like something's bugged, linking skills to something else. Feels like whenever they would change something random in the past, the Borg would break.
    Really hope the Bug Team is looking into this. Almost once a month is excessive, even for me. Code ain't playin' well with SOMETHING to keep triggering this.

    Edit: I'm going to blame Corona on this one. Bug Team can't work as effectively as it has in the past because of this pandemic.
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited December 2020
    And of course, we got a nice, welcome warning about that.

    ...

    Oh wait, no, we didn't.

    Just scrap the whole thing and restart from the beginning, because this isn't gonna continue like that every month. And tell Kael to do his job and at least tell us about it.

    But hey, at least, we can participate to a contest to get a fuzzy tribble the same day.

    ...

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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    This is beyond pathetic this is now the third time I’m going to have to do this on 40 toons
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  • kurtronkurtron Member Posts: 193 Arc User
    keepcalmchiveon wrote: »
    what the hell is going on cryptic?

    Clearly this is just a cheap way for them to pad their precious metrics. ;D
  • galacticgoogalacticgoo Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    Take this as a positive.

    Before you respec, I highly recommend watching Timberwolf's Technical Guide on the Skill tree.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZGUBwaAhg

    I learned a lot of things about what skills I wasted a point on and things to enhance my builds. It takes me about 3 days to respec all 56 characters, but in the end they will all have better specs.

    Cryptic, "invalid skills" issue should never happen again. You have all the data right there. It's one fracking line of code that could fix this. Stuff like this kills your customers confidence in you and your products, especially with the cost of things in game going up. If you want to charge more, you need to start bringing your "A" game to development. At times it seems like you have forgotten that your customers are here to play "Star Trek Online", not "Respec Online".
  • discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited December 2020
    Yeah, it should only take a few lines of code for the game to read the old skills and redo them automatically. That we are forced to do it manually is ridiculous.

    But regardless, I'm not sure it matters for older characters. I re-speced the 1st time, but not the 2nd and did not not a difference. Maybe it prevents further spec points from being spent, but most my older characters have all trees already full.
  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    Oh, FFS, that video is an hour and 15 minutes long
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    chastity1337 wrote: »
    Oh, FFS, that video is an hour and 15 minutes long
    Well, it is interesting, but also full of "depending on your style of gameplay, most other skills I didn't pick can be useful, except a few truly useless ones".
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  • invinsiblemeinvinsibleme Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    Like Cryptic is begging players to quit in annoyance and make them leave to play other games... I'm wondering if it is complete incometence or pure intent.

    But, as I as far as I've obeserved it - its abolute needless to reset the points - it seems the stats behind it are still the old ones as long as you won't change them. Anyone who can confirm that?
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    I still haven't respecced from the first time and notice no change in performance whatsoever. I'll give it another 6 months to see if it calms down a bit.
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  • xividaxxividax Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    For those of us who do not want to change our skills, why can't they simply make it so that when skills go invalid, and we get a free re-spec, all we need to do is click 1 button so that it just copies our last skill selections, and makes them 'valid' again?
  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    xividax wrote: »
    For those of us who do not want to change our skills, why can't they simply make it so that when skills go invalid, and we get a free re-spec, all we need to do is click 1 button so that it just copies our last skill selections, and makes them 'valid' again?

    That would be to easy
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  • darknovasc01darknovasc01 Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    I have not bothered to respec any characters since the first time this happened, far too many to go through. No noticeable drop in combat performance that I have been able to see, and I have not had any problems using spec points either.

    Unless you make regular changes to your character's skill, traits etc. then my advice, like others, would be just to leave them as they are, at least until they fix whatever is causing this or at least give us a way to export a character's spec so we have a record to make things easier.
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  • fred26291#2759 fred26291
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    Im glad I didnt waste the 2 hours to redo 14 people the last time. I will continue to wait before I do that again.
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