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The Plain and Simple Bundle

ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael Member, Administrator Posts: 2,104 Community Manager
Starting tomorrow, we're releasing a special Lobi Bundle on PC celebrating one of our favorites - plain, simple Garak. Grab the Cardassian Keldon Cruiser, a Holographic Garak Bridge Officer, and more!

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11467893
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  • syrupofsquillsyrupofsquill Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    Is any of it account wide unlocks?
  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 5,556 Arc User
    edited June 29
    I was really interested in this until I saw the 1,500 Lobi price tag, which almost certainly means it will be a single character unlock. Why not put this in the C-Store and make it account-wide for a decent price?

    Edit: This is what I would ideally like to see in an account-wide C-Store bundle.

    Playable Cardassian Race
    Cardassian Keldon Cruiser [T6]
    Cardassian Galor Cruiser [T6]
    Advanced Spiral-Wave Disruptors [x6] with more purchased from the Dilithium Store.
    A special Elim Garak Holographic Bridge Officer
    3 Cardassian Bridge Officers (very rare), one Tac, Eng, and Sci.
    Cardassian uniform and badge available for all factions.
    5 Gold Tech Upgrades
    New Titles: Plain and Simple / Obsidian Order

    Not too sure on the price as a suggestion, but lately, I think I have seen the value in the Legendary Bundles, so... 8,000 ZEN?
  • mazujiemazujie Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    jcsww wrote: »
    I was really interested in this until I saw the 1,500 Lobi price tag, which almost certainly means it will be a single character unlock. Why not put this in the C-Store and make it account-wide for a decent price?

    Edit: This is what I would ideally like to see in an account-wide C-Store bundle.

    Playable Cardassian Race
    Cardassian Keldon Cruiser [T6]
    Cardassian Galor Cruiser [T6]
    Advanced Spiral-Wave Disruptors [x6] with more purchased from the Dilithium Store.
    A special Elim Garak Holographic Bridge Officer
    3 Cardassian Bridge Officers (very rare), one Tac, Eng, and Sci.
    Cardassian uniform and badge available for all factions.
    5 Gold Tech Upgrades
    New Titles: Plain and Simple / Obsidian Order

    Not too sure on the price as a suggestion, but lately, I think I have seen the value in the Legendary Bundles, so... 8,000 ZEN?

    This would be a nice bundle!
    I bought some free ZEN ship tokens a while back and since then nothing new comes to the ZEN store, would be nice if we could use them on those bundles aswell.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 598 Arc User
    The Keldon Cruiser is a good sturdy ship with good console, trait, & weapons.

    If I already have the Galor, since it has the same stats as the Keldon, all I'm gaining is the console passives, trait, & ship-skin.

    The Elim Garak Holo' BOFF which has traits: Mental Discipline (Ground), Photographic Memory (Space), Superior Covert (Ground), & Superior Photonic Lifeform (Ground), imo should've had (2) Space & (2) Ground traits.

    (5) "Gold" Tech Upgrades??? Has Cryptic ever just called them "gold" like that? What are they? Are they the Ultimate Upgrades, Omega, Event Buyback, or something new?

    Presuming this pack will only be for (1) character.

    If it were account-wide unlock it would definitely deserve some more deliberation.
  • thetaninethetanine Member Posts: 1,291 Arc User
    Wow. This deal is a lemon from the jump. Minus 1, PW/Cryptic. 🍋 👎
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  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Member Posts: 34,260 Arc User
    The Keldon Cruiser is a good sturdy ship with good console, trait, & weapons.

    If I already have the Galor, since it has the same stats as the Keldon, all I'm gaining is the console passives, trait, & ship-skin.

    The Elim Garak Holo' BOFF which has traits: Mental Discipline (Ground), Photographic Memory (Space), Superior Covert (Ground), & Superior Photonic Lifeform (Ground), imo should've had (2) Space & (2) Ground traits.

    (5) "Gold" Tech Upgrades??? Has Cryptic ever just called them "gold" like that? What are they? Are they the Ultimate Upgrades, Omega, Event Buyback, or something new?

    Presuming this pack will only be for (1) character.

    If it were account-wide unlock it would definitely deserve some more deliberation.

    while assuming ANYTHING with cryptic is an extremely dangerous move...i have never once seen any type of upgrade kit except ultimates in these types of packs, so that's what i'm going to assume they are until notified otherwise​​
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,336 Arc User
    It's usually a 20% discount so either 1200 or 1500 lobi.
    The other cardassians ships are nice and the Garak Boff looks interesting, but i am doubtful about this investment.
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  • sgtfloydpepper#7911 sgtfloydpepper Member Posts: 1,007 Arc User
    Meh.

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  • iamynaughtiamynaught Member Posts: 1,190 Arc User
    As others have said, if the items (Ship & BOff only) were account unlocks it might garner a more favorable response from the players. As it is likely a single character unlock, I have zero interest in it.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,451 Arc User
    I would buy it... but i still dont have the 1000 lobi from the event.. 200 points missing
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  • thetaninethetanine Member Posts: 1,291 Arc User
    Don't ever buy a lobi ship or item with lobi, their exchange prices are much lower than the value of the keys that went into them. Sell keys. Buy items. ;)
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  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 2,287 Arc User
    thetanine wrote: »
    Don't ever buy a lobi ship or item with lobi, their exchange prices are much lower than the value of the keys that went into them. Sell keys. Buy items. ;)

    Don't tell players what to do. If someone wants to buy a lobi ship or item with lobi, so be it.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,820 Arc User
    Well, a lot of players might have already managed to get their 1,000 Lobi... Guess this bundle is a way to remove all that excess Lobi again ;)

    Probably going to pass. The sad truth is that I have way too many specialty BOFFs already. And the Keldon and Galor are okay ships, but they just don't have enough customization options for my taste.
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  • phoenix841phoenix841 Member Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited June 29
    I already have Garak from the DS9 BOFF bundle, he's pretty nice actually.
    That said, the only Cardie ship I'm missing of significance is the Keldon. The rest I have from the Gamma pack.

    If the Keldon was account-wide, I'd get it in a heartbeat.

    EDIT: Just checked, "Plain and Simple" is indeed not a "new" title, I have it. Probably from the Gamma pack too.
    As usual, the blog posts are wrong... maybe they should be removed too. ;)
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  • goroshinorigoroshinori Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    If Garak and the ship were account wide unlocks I would get this if we got a good lobi sale during the promo. Garak should have had two usable space traits or all ground traits. As previous posters pointed out there is some overlap with the Gamma pack.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,579 Arc User
    Saw it on the launcher and assumed muggs market.

    Apparently I was mistaken and greedonomics is being pushed further into gamblebox territory by making this a whopping 1500 lobi for what is likely a per character purchase. The absence of that important nugget of information screams that it won't be account but they're too scared (unlikely ashamed) to admit to openly.
  • gaming1ogregaming1ogre Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    I saw the title got a bit excited. Here is something I want to buy. Then I started reading and saw lobi. That was the deal breaker. If this hits the zen store, then I'll buy it. Not till then.
  • haamre00haamre00 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    We've started the year with the Legendary Pack, which was actually quite nice bang for the buck (or however you Americans say it :wink: ).
    10 ships, for 19500 zen = 1950 zen per ship, discounted, and 2950 when not.

    Since then, we've gotten things like:

    1. The Legendary Warbird pack, which brought the classic light warbird at the insane price of either 6k zen, or 12k zen - for one ship.

    2. Mudd's Timeship Pack - which brought 7 ships, though wihout any additional work put into adding something "unique" and "special", as it was with the legendary ships - for either ~2070 zen or ~4215 zen per ship.

    3. Missed opportunity with the Ships of the Line pack being just a bundle-up of all previous tiers of the Akira, instead of providing a Legendary upgrade - and thus opening the possibility to both: give the "legendary" treatment for many more chosen T6 ships, and to provide the incentive to people who already own this particular T6 ship. Again though, at 4020/6k zen for just a regular copy-pasted T6 (&lower tiers), the value seems "questionable".

    4. Exceeding the 1k lobi level, for (correct me, if I'm wrong) the 1st time ever? Can't remember which ship it was, but I think the price was set to 1200 lobi, wasn't it?

    Overall, this seem to be a somewhat downward course taken by Cryptic, which begs the question - if there will ever be a KDF and/or Romulan Legendary pack created, will it provide the same levels of value for the players like the FED one did, or will it be just a blatant rush for the players money, with a copy-paste stance taken again...?
  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    I'd rather have a Cardassian faction. Preferably with more character options than only a male JemHadar Cardassian.

    I'm surprised that we got whatever the Dominion fraction is supposed to be over a already talked over the years Cardassian Fraction which could also have had Beta Quad JH's and Dom ships included. :|
  • puppylee#1758 puppylee Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    Well if it was a Zen thing, or there were other ways to get Lobi, it might be good.
    Unfortunately I can see so many people ignoring and passing this over, meaning it's not good.
  • thetaninethetanine Member Posts: 1,291 Arc User
    sthe91 wrote: »
    thetanine wrote: »
    Don't ever buy a lobi ship or item with lobi, their exchange prices are much lower than the value of the keys that went into them. Sell keys. Buy items. ;)

    Don't tell players what to do. If someone wants to buy a lobi ship or item with lobi, so be it.

    Alright. Go ahead and spend way more real-life money than you need to on coded pixels. I agree with you. It's everyone's right to be unwise.
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  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,533 Arc User
    I'm surprised that the stats for the ship wasn't posted in the blog, since the ship's available the next day.
  • sthe91sthe91 Member Posts: 2,287 Arc User
    thetanine wrote: »
    sthe91 wrote: »
    thetanine wrote: »
    Don't ever buy a lobi ship or item with lobi, their exchange prices are much lower than the value of the keys that went into them. Sell keys. Buy items. ;)

    Don't tell players what to do. If someone wants to buy a lobi ship or item with lobi, so be it.

    Alright. Go ahead and spend way more real-life money than you need to on coded pixels. I agree with you. It's everyone's right to be unwise.

    Those who wish to purchase it with Lobi are not unwise. You have given them another option if they so choose.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    I'm surprised that the stats for the ship wasn't posted in the blog, since the ship's available the next day.

    That maybe because it is not a new ship, but one from Infinity Lockbox (and I think the ship is around 3-4 years old from old Cardassian-Dominion Lockbox).

    Here are the stats from STO Wiki:
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Cardassian_Keldon_Cruiser
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 13,420 Arc User
    What the heck:
    And one final piece - the Key Ring Bundle will be available on all platforms as well, so you can get your hands on 10 Master Keys and an Ultimate Tech Upgrade during this sale

    I hope this is just sloppy proof-reading as the Key Ring Bundle is suppose to contain 20 Master Keys!
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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 5,556 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »

    Not really! At least in my opinion. 1,200 Lobi for a single character unlock still seems like it is priced way too high. I wonder what they will go for on the Exchange, if they are tradeable/sellable.
  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,533 Arc User
    Looking ingame, everything except for the Ship is account unlockable.

    The tradeable part for the ship is the giveaway it's a once per character deal.
  • lordconn#9249 lordconn Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    I would have bought if it included the playable Cardassian race. I really don't have much room for another holo celebrity bridge officer.
  • lordconn#9249 lordconn Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    I'd rather have a Cardassian faction. Preferably with more character options than only a male JemHadar Cardassian.

    I'm surprised that we got whatever the Dominion fraction is supposed to be over a already talked over the years Cardassian Fraction which could also have had Beta Quad JH's and Dom ships included. :|

    If they won't run the Romulans as a separate faction, no way will you see a Cardassian or Dominion faction. What ever they do, you will still be faced with a Fed or Klingon choice at some point.
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