So the sovereign,intrepid, crossfield all have two different specialist seats. This is bull the others deserve a different lower seats too. Hell the oddy only has one specialization seat.
Defiant intel, kelvin command or MW, galaxy MW, oddy temporal or intel, NX command or intel?
Can't believe there's one *fewer* tactical console on the new Intrepid. I was looking forward to it until that bit of info. I'd rather a science or engineering console be swapped for it.
Was hoping that ship would be tactical heavy, or possibly even an escort variant rather than a science vessel ... all those gun emplacements and it's still only 3/3 with a Lt tactical seat
Darn, that was the one I was looking forward to the most, looks like I will still be using the lukari scout ship, annorax or tac vesta over it. I already found the original pathfinder disappointing enough for even sci toons because of how inflexible it was. I probably wont even be buying anything now, this anniversary has been disappointing to me.
Will the special of 19,500 ZEN for the first package be made available later in the year for PC? Perhaps mid year? Paying such a large amount at this point in time is not favorable for me so I would like to put some money aside for a couple of months.
The bundle itself is only going to be available for a limited time (they haven't said how long), it'll be back eventually but they haven't said when, no idea if the sale price will ever return.
I may be wrong, but I read that the sale on the bundles will be for a limited time, the bundles will stay in Zen store period - just the price will be up to the "standard" after the opening sale expires.
Well sure they say that, to rack up the sales, you would be a bad ferengi if you did not do that!
But it will be on sale as long as they dont reach their profit goal, and if they still dont reach it they throw in a discount sale a few weeks later. It happend before and sure will happen if the future.
But i must agree the bundle is starting to look good, if only a andorian ship was in it... :-)
Watch QVC or HSN for a little bit and you will see this kind of marketing. At 12 midnight such and such will be gone for the rest of the year. The price will never be less.
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
This thing should have the option to equip dual cannons on every slot, including aft weapon slots, secondary deflector slot, any and every console slot, and all device slots.
Even at least one bridge station Boff should be replaced by dual cannons.
Heck, even the warp core should be allowed to shoot at hostiles with dual cannons.
Agree, adding the ability to equip dual cannons doesn't qualify it as Warship Voyager. It seems like Warship by title only. It does have better seating imo, but I was expecting more punch even a 4/3 weapon layout if it was going to be the "Warship Voyager". That Kyrian Warship Voyager had beefy hull, lots more weapons, the most accurate thing is the kit-bash. Just not impressive besides the seating when considering the premium price Cryptic is asking.
Also, it says Delta Flyer (DF) shuttles, 1 hangar bay, & then includes the older console for Aero shuttles. Are Aeros & DFs the same? If not & presuming the DF shuttles are better then isn't the old Aero shuttle console a complete waste lol or are DF shuttles an innate ability then you can have the console too?
This thing should have the option to equip dual cannons on every slot, including aft weapon slots, secondary deflector slot, any and every console slot, and all device slots.
Even at least one bridge station Boff should be replaced by dual cannons.
Heck, even the warp core should be allowed to shoot at hostiles with dual cannons.
Even the EMH should shoot at hostiles with dual cannons, one in each hand!
Damn!!!, the Glenn Class is a beauty!!!.... Damn you cryptic, damn you to hell!!... i dont have money!!!
I agree, visually that Glenn is really nice along with many of the other Legends' appearances. I could afford this, but not going to waste my money on it, just doesn't seem worth it to me, but those that buy I hope they enjoy.
Hopefully you'll be able to get it eventually if you want!
Missed opportunity for them to make mirror skin of the Enterprise NX. I was surprised that they included the mirror universe skin for the Crossfield class but none for the other Enterprises.
Maybe they might either add Mirror versions for other ships (or have vanity shields) when/if they ever do the Mirror Leeta/Killy team up/rivalry?
Missed opportunity for them to make mirror skin of the Enterprise NX. I was surprised that they included the mirror universe skin for the Crossfield class but none for the other Enterprises.
Maybe they might either add Mirror versions for other ships (or have vanity shields) when/if they ever do the Mirror Leeta/Killy team up/rivalry?
I'm still expecting Cryptic to try one more "gotcha & be amazed" addition to the bundle besides the ten ships. Adding Mirror skins to all the Legend ships wouldn't had been difficult at all neither.
If that is the case I'll definitely be more interested. Feels like a stretch though that it be included at this point. I'd love a Mirror Universe vanity shield as well (be a nice change from just another colour swap to a yellow ant/pincer patterns on the ship hulls instead). The closest we got was the Bozeman Titans vanity shield.
I'd be happy enough just for name prefix but it doesn't look like they do either one because it would be too much work for them to handle and not enough $$$$$ for the effort.
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> @coldnapalm said: > (Quote) > > Did you just attempt to argue from authority about an MMO game using TAXATION expertise?!? You showed off something here alright...but it ain't something good like you may think.
1) I was responding to someone who said that he made an "educated opinion."
2) I responded from a business and accounting point of view in relation to the business model concern of players not having an incentive to buy new ships if my suggestions were in place. In doing so, my experience and training background conveys my sources related to making my suggestions. My suggestions could still make money for Cryptic, including still having incentives to purchase new ships.
3) I am not employed by Cryptic or government. Therefore, no authority is involved over the game from me.
4) I did not ask for anyone's insults regarding the accounting or taxation professions.
Just be sure the pack is worth it to you if you want to buy it. There is a lot of sales pitch BS here desgined to get you to think less with your head and more with your gut, making you worried and emotional so that you buy a deal you feel good about but may not be the best deal for you. $200-300 is something you should seriously think about what the value of the pack is to you, whether you really get that kind of value from the pack, the ships, whether you'll actually use enough of them and so on.
In my case, the T5 Odysseys, Intrepid Pack, and Andromeda class were all in my list of ships to get, eventually. (Wonder if the Intrepid interior comes with the ship?) I've got an NX on one char, but the Columbia class will probably replace it and I would like having it on other chars too, I like that design better then the original NX actually. Pilot Defiant should be fun even though there's not a lot new costume wise. Crossfield wasn't something I was that interested in, Glenn's another story as I've mentioned. Sovereign I wouldn't mind flying again. (Thought about buying Vizier but it didn't seem that different then the regular one, costume wise, so I didn't.) My Mirror Sovereign was drydocked to make room for T6 ships on my main. And I'm glad it'll include the Fleet Sovereign costume, that I'll have to experiment with. The Kelvin Constitution is interesting, and I'm sure I'll use it, but it wasn't exactly one of my Must Have ships. (Granted, my opinion may change after using it. I'm just more emotionally invested in the original timeline.) And one of the ships I really want to fly, I'm pretty sure, will be one of the two yet to be revealed officially.
I do think they should have done the reveal a bit earlier, considering the price. For many people it may take time to save up enough money to buy the bundle, and the timing is kinda tight here IMHO. We're less then a week away, and don't know (for sure) all the ships. A little more advance notice (for this and other things, like sales) could help people get their money together so they have it to spend. The way things are, I may have to wait a while to use some of these ships on some chars due to not having enough ship slots for all of them on all my Fed/Fed Allied chars. Of course, some may (and probably will) replace existing ships of the same basic class. Like my T5 Galaxies. I am interested how the 10 ship slots thing is going to work out, whether it'll be all 10 on one char, of if you can split them up on different chars.
which miracle worker abilities work on a high end exotic science build? Struggling to justify wanting to fly the intrepid since i can't find any miracle worker abilities doing decent AoE uber Sci stuff!
Nice bundle thus far, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat if there were a quality pass Nova class/Rhode Island included.
As it is though, they don't want my money so....
I've always felt somewhat sad for you, I've visited the forums on and off for years and you've always been requesting the Nova and I know how you feel. The Nova desperately needs to be looked at cause I really liked it in the show, small and compact.
I am really hoping the last two ships will be the Nova and the Vesta. The Vesta was the very first ZEN store ship I purchased, spent a whole month grinding dilithium everyday for it, this was a few years ago. Even back then I was bummed that the Vesta model was very poorly designed compared to the one Mark Rademaker made.
And another thing, for all the original ships they have tons of pictures and shows of these ships to use as a reference so how is it that they got most of them wrong?? As a fan that really loves the ships of Star Trek it actually makes me aggressive thinking about it lol.
Fingers crossed I hope for you that one of the next ships will be the Nova. (and the Vesta for me )
Was hoping that ship would be tactical heavy, or possibly even an escort variant rather than a science vessel ... all those gun emplacements and it's still only 3/3 with a Lt tactical seat
It definitely needs a little more to go with the Warship skin, which should be its own ship in my opinion. Personally, It think it should be 3 Tac, 3 Eng, 5 Science, and 1 universal and have an escort weapons layout of 4 fore and 3 aft. I guess we will just have to hope for a MU version that can use the Warship skin in the future.
Was hoping that ship would be tactical heavy, or possibly even an escort variant rather than a science vessel ... all those gun emplacements and it's still only 3/3 with a Lt tactical seat
It definitely needs a little more to go with the Warship skin, which should be its own ship in my opinion. Personally, It think it should be 3 Tac, 3 Eng, 5 Science, and 1 universal and have an escort weapons layout of 4 fore and 3 aft. I guess we will just have to hope for a MU version that can use the Warship skin in the future.
Was hoping that ship would be tactical heavy, or possibly even an escort variant rather than a science vessel ... all those gun emplacements and it's still only 3/3 with a Lt tactical seat
It definitely needs a little more to go with the Warship skin, which should be its own ship in my opinion. Personally, It think it should be 3 Tac, 3 Eng, 5 Science, and 1 universal and have an escort weapons layout of 4 fore and 3 aft. I guess we will just have to hope for a MU version that can use the Warship skin in the future.
Maybe also an LtCom universal or tac.
Yeah! When Tactical Science ship comes to mind. PWE really got the Vesta's right. Ideally, that is what they should be looking at for a true representation of the Warship Voyager ship stats. A universal Lt. Com BO slot though is definitely needed on the current layout as well.
It is nice to finally start seeing these variations come to the game but I think I would have been happy to just see the Warship Voyager come as its own ship. Because it is so different in what the stats should be. Maybe PWE could just give us a single Warship Voyager ship with a proper tactical layout using the skin from the bundle in the future.
I was hoping for a warship Voyager, but IMO this was not the way to do it.
I agree that the Glenn looks the part, even for a disco ship.
If the Voyager legendary is a Multi Mission etc, does that mean it can use the Vesta Aux Cannons?
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
which miracle worker abilities work on a high end exotic science build? Struggling to justify wanting to fly the intrepid since i can't find any miracle worker abilities doing decent AoE uber Sci stuff!
At best, destabilize warp core is it for an exotic build. There are some heals too, but MW powers work much better with standard energy weapon ships.
which miracle worker abilities work on a high end exotic science build? Struggling to justify wanting to fly the intrepid since i can't find any miracle worker abilities doing decent AoE uber Sci stuff!
Nanite Repair Payload: a support role
Overwhelm Power Regulators: drain build
Deploy Gravitic Induction Platform: if you need more control
Destabilize Warp Core: only exotic ability
Null Pointer Flood: oh TRIBBLE survival button
Align Shield Frequencies: great resistance.
I only really recommend though you use ensign and Lt MW powers for this ship if your going exotic.
I'm loving the look of this pack so far. The intrepid update to allow the use of delta flyers coupled with the warship skin are great, as well as the inclusion of the Crossfield is awesome.
Though I will stay with the basic pack for just under $200. I am not cetacean enough to go for all the bells and whistles!
Why would anyone want to get all the bells and whistles? It is a complete ripoff. The only thing that might be useful is the Epic Phoenix Prize token, but a person would require the worst luck in the universe to require purchasing the Premium Bundle for it. If they replaced the 10 Infinity R&D Packs with one or two Tier 6 Promo Choice Packs, then it probably be worth the price.
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Defiant intel, kelvin command or MW, galaxy MW, oddy temporal or intel, NX command or intel?
Darn, that was the one I was looking forward to the most, looks like I will still be using the lukari scout ship, annorax or tac vesta over it.
Well sure they say that, to rack up the sales, you would be a bad ferengi if you did not do that!
But it will be on sale as long as they dont reach their profit goal, and if they still dont reach it they throw in a discount sale a few weeks later. It happend before and sure will happen if the future.
But i must agree the bundle is starting to look good, if only a andorian ship was in it... :-)
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Agree, adding the ability to equip dual cannons doesn't qualify it as Warship Voyager. It seems like Warship by title only. It does have better seating imo, but I was expecting more punch even a 4/3 weapon layout if it was going to be the "Warship Voyager". That Kyrian Warship Voyager had beefy hull, lots more weapons, the most accurate thing is the kit-bash. Just not impressive besides the seating when considering the premium price Cryptic is asking.
Also, it says Delta Flyer (DF) shuttles, 1 hangar bay, & then includes the older console for Aero shuttles. Are Aeros & DFs the same? If not & presuming the DF shuttles are better then isn't the old Aero shuttle console a complete waste lol or are DF shuttles an innate ability then you can have the console too?
Even the EMH should shoot at hostiles with dual cannons, one in each hand!
I agree, visually that Glenn is really nice along with many of the other Legends' appearances. I could afford this, but not going to waste my money on it, just doesn't seem worth it to me, but those that buy I hope they enjoy.
Hopefully you'll be able to get it eventually if you want!
Maybe they might either add Mirror versions for other ships (or have vanity shields) when/if they ever do the Mirror Leeta/Killy team up/rivalry?
I'm still expecting Cryptic to try one more "gotcha & be amazed" addition to the bundle besides the ten ships. Adding Mirror skins to all the Legend ships wouldn't had been difficult at all neither.
I'd be happy enough just for name prefix but it doesn't look like they do either one because it would be too much work for them to handle and not enough $$$$$ for the effort.
"When diplomacy fails, there's only one alternative - violence. Force must be applied without apology. It's the Starfleet way." - Captain Janeway
#Support Mirror Universe I.S.S. Prefixes
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> Did you just attempt to argue from authority about an MMO game using TAXATION expertise?!? You showed off something here alright...but it ain't something good like you may think.
1) I was responding to someone who said that he made an "educated opinion."
2) I responded from a business and accounting point of view in relation to the business model concern of players not having an incentive to buy new ships if my suggestions were in place. In doing so, my experience and training background conveys my sources related to making my suggestions. My suggestions could still make money for Cryptic, including still having incentives to purchase new ships.
3) I am not employed by Cryptic or government. Therefore, no authority is involved over the game from me.
4) I did not ask for anyone's insults regarding the accounting or taxation professions.
Unfortunately right now I don’t have an extra $195 daughter has to have surgery
In my case, the T5 Odysseys, Intrepid Pack, and Andromeda class were all in my list of ships to get, eventually. (Wonder if the Intrepid interior comes with the ship?) I've got an NX on one char, but the Columbia class will probably replace it and I would like having it on other chars too, I like that design better then the original NX actually. Pilot Defiant should be fun even though there's not a lot new costume wise. Crossfield wasn't something I was that interested in, Glenn's another story as I've mentioned. Sovereign I wouldn't mind flying again. (Thought about buying Vizier but it didn't seem that different then the regular one, costume wise, so I didn't.) My Mirror Sovereign was drydocked to make room for T6 ships on my main. And I'm glad it'll include the Fleet Sovereign costume, that I'll have to experiment with. The Kelvin Constitution is interesting, and I'm sure I'll use it, but it wasn't exactly one of my Must Have ships. (Granted, my opinion may change after using it. I'm just more emotionally invested in the original timeline.) And one of the ships I really want to fly, I'm pretty sure, will be one of the two yet to be revealed officially.
I do think they should have done the reveal a bit earlier, considering the price. For many people it may take time to save up enough money to buy the bundle, and the timing is kinda tight here IMHO. We're less then a week away, and don't know (for sure) all the ships. A little more advance notice (for this and other things, like sales) could help people get their money together so they have it to spend. The way things are, I may have to wait a while to use some of these ships on some chars due to not having enough ship slots for all of them on all my Fed/Fed Allied chars. Of course, some may (and probably will) replace existing ships of the same basic class. Like my T5 Galaxies. I am interested how the 10 ship slots thing is going to work out, whether it'll be all 10 on one char, of if you can split them up on different chars.
which miracle worker abilities work on a high end exotic science build? Struggling to justify wanting to fly the intrepid since i can't find any miracle worker abilities doing decent AoE uber Sci stuff!
I've always felt somewhat sad for you, I've visited the forums on and off for years and you've always been requesting the Nova and I know how you feel. The Nova desperately needs to be looked at cause I really liked it in the show, small and compact.
I am really hoping the last two ships will be the Nova and the Vesta. The Vesta was the very first ZEN store ship I purchased, spent a whole month grinding dilithium everyday for it, this was a few years ago. Even back then I was bummed that the Vesta model was very poorly designed compared to the one Mark Rademaker made.
And another thing, for all the original ships they have tons of pictures and shows of these ships to use as a reference so how is it that they got most of them wrong?? As a fan that really loves the ships of Star Trek it actually makes me aggressive thinking about it lol.
Fingers crossed I hope for you that one of the next ships will be the Nova. (and the Vesta for me
It definitely needs a little more to go with the Warship skin, which should be its own ship in my opinion. Personally, It think it should be 3 Tac, 3 Eng, 5 Science, and 1 universal and have an escort weapons layout of 4 fore and 3 aft. I guess we will just have to hope for a MU version that can use the Warship skin in the future.
Yeah! When Tactical Science ship comes to mind. PWE really got the Vesta's right. Ideally, that is what they should be looking at for a true representation of the Warship Voyager ship stats. A universal Lt. Com BO slot though is definitely needed on the current layout as well.
It is nice to finally start seeing these variations come to the game but I think I would have been happy to just see the Warship Voyager come as its own ship. Because it is so different in what the stats should be. Maybe PWE could just give us a single Warship Voyager ship with a proper tactical layout using the skin from the bundle in the future.
I agree that the Glenn looks the part, even for a disco ship.
If the Voyager legendary is a Multi Mission etc, does that mean it can use the Vesta Aux Cannons?
At best, destabilize warp core is it for an exotic build. There are some heals too, but MW powers work much better with standard energy weapon ships.
Nanite Repair Payload: a support role
Overwhelm Power Regulators: drain build
Deploy Gravitic Induction Platform: if you need more control
Destabilize Warp Core: only exotic ability
Null Pointer Flood: oh TRIBBLE survival button
Align Shield Frequencies: great resistance.
I only really recommend though you use ensign and Lt MW powers for this ship if your going exotic.
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You got me!!!
Though I will stay with the basic pack for just under $200. I am not cetacean enough to go for all the bells and whistles!
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Why would anyone want to get all the bells and whistles? It is a complete ripoff. The only thing that might be useful is the Epic Phoenix Prize token, but a person would require the worst luck in the universe to require purchasing the Premium Bundle for it. If they replaced the 10 Infinity R&D Packs with one or two Tier 6 Promo Choice Packs, then it probably be worth the price.
Possibly in the future, but not right now.
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