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Yo, Abdin, this is what plagiarism looks like

starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
edited October 2019 in Ten Forward
Okay, I'm trolling just a little bit. >:)

Hong Kong-based Gamebear just got caught plagiarizing artwork from Halo 4 for use in Stellaris: Galaxy Command, a mobile-based gaiden game of Stockholm-based Paradox Interactive's grand strategy title Stellaris.
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PDX, the publisher, yanked the title off the store and killed the servers after they were notified of the issue. They're currently going through the game with a fine-toothed comb for any other incidents.

Also, like a true shovelware dev, Gamebear reskinned their own previous game Nova Empire with Stellaris art to make this thing.

Sources:
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    I'm pretty sure Abdin knows... given how much of his work is an "homage" of previous works.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    Dear God! That is BLATANT in the extreme! And a rather poor photoshop job too. You can still make out part of the back end of the foreground Pelican in the edited picture, and where that Pelican was... is kinda fuzzy!
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  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Dear God! That is BLATANT in the extreme! And a rather poor photoshop job too. You can still make out part of the back end of the foreground Pelican in the edited picture, and where that Pelican was... is kinda fuzzy!

    It gets worse. The full image as used in Galaxy Command had Scorpions and a Warthog to the left of the screen grabs starswordc posted, which the Devs didn't even bother to edit out! You could even make out the letters UNSC on the tanks' suspension modules!
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire
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    That what happens when you outsource your game's IP to mobile game devs like Gamebear who also pretty much stole from Stellaris for Nova Empire.

    Also recognised certain ship in this Nova Empire trailer at 0:14
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMcsfngb6ZI

    They look awfully similar to Iconian ships
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    Not that similar. However, the thing at 0:56 - space station? battle cruiser? - was just about identical to the Tzenkethi ship that tried to bomb Bajor. (And the attack ships' wings unfolded in a manner that looked quite familiar to me. "Lock S-foils in attack positions," anyone?)
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire
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    Not that similar? They both have 🌲 shapes
    and a giant cyclops eye within their ship design. They aren't identical but they have similarities.

    I couldn't see the x-wing reference.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    terranempire#7881 wrote: »
    Not that similar? They both have 🌲 shapes
    and a giant cyclops eye within their ship design. They aren't identical but they have similarities.

    I couldn't see the x-wing reference.

    Personally, they both look like they were inspired by angels.

    As far as plagiarism is concerned, does China even care about it? Only when it involves interacting with the West is there any effect. It was only due to the game being part of the Stellaris franchise was it able to be pulled by PDX. If it was a generic mobile game, then Microsoft would not be able to do anything about it. China certainly has a reputation for knockoffs.
  • garaks31garaks31 Member Posts: 2,845 Arc User
    he raised same good amount for Appeal

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/justiceforanas
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    terranempire#7881 wrote: »
    That what happens when you outsource your game's IP to mobile game devs like Gamebear who also pretty much stole from Stellaris for Nova Empire.

    Also recognised certain ship in this Nova Empire trailer at 0:14
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMcsfngb6ZI

    They look awfully similar to Iconian ships
    bf9f3617a495d77ac2df5b2409d49b00.jpg

    yes, they are 'similar' in the same way the tzen'tar dreadnought is similar to the cardassian hutet - they aren't the same model even if they have the same general silhouette​​
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    A mistake but they get to pocket the money.
    From what I understand they won’t be able to introduce new evidence. I don’t really see another judge ruling in his favor. The judge’s ruling was pretty cut and dry. You can’t trademark people (black woman, frizzy haired woman, TRIBBLE man) and you can’t trademark living creatures (tigers, Tardegrades, lizards).

    > @garaks31 said:
    > he raised same good amount for Appeal
    >
    > https://www.gofundme.com/f/justiceforanas
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    garaks31 wrote: »
    he raised same good amount for Appeal

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/justiceforanas
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    He's not going to do any better with the federal appeals court than he did in the district court, because he has no case. And you can forget SCOTUS taking an appeal, even if it was a sane composition like the Warren court.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    ryan218 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Dear God! That is BLATANT in the extreme! And a rather poor photoshop job too. You can still make out part of the back end of the foreground Pelican in the edited picture, and where that Pelican was... is kinda fuzzy!

    It gets worse. The full image as used in Galaxy Command had Scorpions and a Warthog to the left of the screen grabs starswordc posted, which the Devs didn't even bother to edit out! You could even make out the letters UNSC on the tanks' suspension modules!

    I didn't post that image originally due to brevity, but you're right. This is S:GC (another thing they ripped off /jk):
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    And this is the original art piece:
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    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    The other major component of the case is they were unable to prove that Discovery took any ideas from his game.
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire
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    edited October 2019
    > @shadowfang240 said:
    > (Quote)
    >
    > yes, they are 'similar' in the same way the tzen'tar dreadnought is similar to the cardassian hutet - they aren't the same model even if they have the same general silhouette​​

    I must have amnesia. Can someone quote the part where I said the models are identical?

    'Similar'

    adjective
    having a resemblance in appearance, character, or quantity, without being identical.

    The ship reminded me of them which I thought was fun, not that they stole from Cryptic...
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    The design for the Hutet was first seen in DS9: Dominion Wars though right? BEFORE STO came out.
    And besides... the two ships only have a similar appearance from above. From the front and sides, the Hutet is clearly beefier on the front end.
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