Midnight's Edge has put out many videos regarding various aspects of Star Trek.
All of them have been wrong. I wouldn't waste my time there, were I you.
Some people here seem to be very much into self punishment. Midnight's Edge is the definition of "fake news" in the Trek world.
is Picard the same Picard from the TNG or not? if not... not fake news and so the vid IS spot on.
If CBS sold or licnesed ST to Disney and they do a crossover cause it's all the same... just SW takes place a long time ago in a different Galaxy but due to worm hole they can go back and forth between shows... is it all ok?
Canon is canon till some director or producer says it's not... then it is again if they feel like it... ie if they can make money off of it. You might as well say that the Original ST and the Movies were set in different universes... just look at the ship and uniforms... same for NextGen... parallel universes totally... just shared history... well some of it.
What an interesting word salad. Did you intend for it to make sense or have a point that got lost along the way or are you still getting use to the fingers on the new meat suit?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
> @jonsills said: > And that minority really ought to keep watching. The second episode of this season, "New Eden", IMO felt more like TOS than anything I've seen since '69, and the third episode, "Point of Light", wouldn't have been that out of place in TNG.
> @valoreah said: > jonsills wrote: » > > Midnight's Edge has put out many videos regarding various aspects of Star Trek. > > All of them have been wrong. I wouldn't waste my time there, were I you. > > > > > Some people here seem to be very much into self punishment. Midnight's Edge is the definition of "fake news" in the Trek world.
Midnights Edge is a rumour Mill, not news, fake or otherwise, and they don't pretend otherwise. I treat them accordingly.
Meanwhile, on topic, Patrick Stewart appeared on The Graham Norton Show recently, discussing (among other things) when the new show is set, and why Jean-Luc Picard doesn't sound French.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Meanwhile, on topic, Patrick Stewart appeared on The Graham Norton Show recently, discussing (among other things) when the new show is set, and why Jean-Luc Picard doesn't sound French.
He sounds like a cross between Poirot and a character from 'Allo 'Allo! there.
I'd just assume WWIII ended with England retaking France and the Battle of Castillon II the sequel.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Meanwhile, on topic, Patrick Stewart appeared on The Graham Norton Show recently, discussing (among other things) when the new show is set, and why Jean-Luc Picard doesn't sound French.
is Picard the same Picard from the TNG or not? if not... not fake news and so the vid IS spot on.
Well, yes - this is the same character from TNG, just 30 something years into the future. He might not be a Captain anymore, but he is still the same Picard. He isn't a clone or some long lost brother.
ME videos are garbage and fake news.
It depends on what you mean by the same character. Captain Kirk from TOS is not exactly the same character as Admiral Kirk from the movies. So if people expect Picard in the new series to be the same as Picard from TNG, then they will be disappointed.
Picard will have grown and aged. In my opinion, that's what P.S. meant when he said he's not the same. He will also have been affected by the breakup of the Romulan Empire. The things he's seen and done since then will have affected him deeply. And his role will not be that of the starship captain.
With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
> @brian334 said: > Picard will have grown and aged. In my opinion, that's what P.S. meant when he said he's not the same. He will also have been affected by the breakup of the Romulan Empire. The things he's seen and done since then will have affected him deeply. And his role will not be that of the starship captain. > > With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
Yeah it's seems obvious to me he's not in ththe same place in his life, too much has happened and changed, which is what they mean by not the same man.
Yeah it's seems obvious to me he's not in the same place in his life, too much has happened and changed, which is what they mean by not the same man.
What tiger meant by "not the same man" was that this wasn't really Jean-Luc Picard, former commander of the starship Enterprise, but some sort of parallel-universe shenanigans. Which is plainly not the case. (Can't speak for the ME video, as I don't waste my time with those any more. Fool me once, shame on you, and all that.)
Well i don't ever choose to waste my time with nonsense like what was going on with ME videos, i've got zero interest in even thinking or considering it and after reading someone using ME to justify some point that amounts to just rumor mongering, i'm even less inclined to want to know what ME is doing now.
With that out the way, I'm curious to see how long he lasts in his Co-EP role and lead actor position. I hope Patrick can get a good 4 or 5 seasons out. I just hope it isn't asking too much of Patrick at his age of 78. He seems pretty spritely still so i think if his series proves to be a really good addition to star trek, it would be the crowning achievement to his career and close out Picard as a character and fill in some gaps that are sorely needed.
Its a shame that Andreas Katsulas went out the picture a while ago, imagine Andy playing as Commander Tomalok again facing down an older Picard no longer in Starfleet, Epic! I hope we get to foind out more about important romulan leaders, what happened to Donatra, the reunificationists, the fallout from the hobus disaster and so on.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
Hakeev and Obisek are creations of Star Trek Online so there is no reason why any STO content has to be in the new Picard series. The Picard writers will likely take inspiration from STO and other sources to create their stories for what they think the end of the 24th Century will look like and ignore the vast majority of STO content. We might see Taris and D'Tan since they were both in TNG, but it is not likely that they would be an Iconian agent or future leader of the Romulan Republic.
With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
Hakeev and Obisek are creations of Star Trek Online so there is no reason why any STO content has to be in the new Picard series. The Picard writers will likely take inspiration from STO and other sources to create their stories for what they think the end of the 24th Century will look like and ignore the vast majority of STO content. We might see Taris and D'Tan since they were both in TNG, but it is not likely that they would be an Iconian agent or future leader of the Romulan Republic.
The producers of the new Treks have stated that they're trying to create a cohesive universe now; in fact, there was coordination between the Disco writer's room and STO on the upcoming season (which may be why they're addressing in dialog some of the problems people have had with it, like Pike telling Number One to solve the Enterprise's system-overload problems by pulling the holographic-communication systems out - "If anyone wants to call someone, they can use an old-fashioned screen. Never liked those holograms anyway, they remind me of ghosts").
With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
Hakeev and Obisek are creations of Star Trek Online so there is no reason why any STO content has to be in the new Picard series. The Picard writers will likely take inspiration from STO and other sources to create their stories for what they think the end of the 24th Century will look like and ignore the vast majority of STO content. We might see Taris and D'Tan since they were both in TNG, but it is not likely that they would be an Iconian agent or future leader of the Romulan Republic.
There's no reason why it must be, of course, but it would be an Easter Egg for the loyal STO customer, and if they need a Tal Shiar guy who's selling out the remnants of the Empire for personal power, Hakeev is as good a name as any, with Obisek being a perfect foil. The regular fans won't know, but we STO players will see Obisek putting a plasma bolt in Hakeev's head every time they come onscreen. (And then it will be Picard shooting him, just like I did the first time around!)
As the average person has now become aware, the breakup of large empires is accompanied by chaos as small groups surge toward independence against the will of their former oppressors. Multiple wars break out, and sometimes the remnant empire is strong enough to push them back down, or quickly becomes so.
The Federation will be set upon by multiple groups wanting their help, and when it isn't given they will attack the Federation. Other groups will want the supplies they can steal by raiding Federation facilities and ships. Yet other groups will blame the Federation for the whole mess and vent their frustration by attacking. And have I mentioned that when the Federation does help one group, its opposition will resent it?
The Federation post-Hobus won't be a fun place to hang out and chill: it will be a field of battle. And this is where I see the Picard series headed. Jean-Luc the mediator, ambassador, and carrier of Spock's Katra, must continue Spock's dream of Reunification in a highly fragmented, fractured, and frustrated society while civil war rages.
I imagine Picard will be the new Surak, healing the wounds of the claws of the raptor.
Check back with this thread in a few years and we'll count the number o times I guessed wrong!
Jean-Luc the mediator, ambassador, and carrier of Spock's Katra
He doesn't have Spock's katra. He mind melded with Sarek, but didn't take his Katra.
At the other end of that story arc he also melds with Spock. Who's to say he and Spock didn't become good friends over the next eighteen years and just before leaving to do the Red Matter thing he stopped by to say goodbye to his friend? He did it to Bones just before he went to his almost certain death, and I can't see him not doing it with someone before he went to turn Hobus into a black hole.
But even without Spock's katra, he could have taken Spock's mission as his own. The two were probably working, if not together, at least in tandem in trying to bring the Romulans over to the light side of The Force.
With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
Hakeev and Obisek are creations of Star Trek Online so there is no reason why any STO content has to be in the new Picard series. The Picard writers will likely take inspiration from STO and other sources to create their stories for what they think the end of the 24th Century will look like and ignore the vast majority of STO content. We might see Taris and D'Tan since they were both in TNG, but it is not likely that they would be an Iconian agent or future leader of the Romulan Republic.
The producers of the new Treks have stated that they're trying to create a cohesive universe now; in fact, there was coordination between the Disco writer's room and STO on the upcoming season (which may be why they're addressing in dialog some of the problems people have had with it, like Pike telling Number One to solve the Enterprise's system-overload problems by pulling the holographic-communication systems out - "If anyone wants to call someone, they can use an old-fashioned screen. Never liked those holograms anyway, they remind me of ghosts").
There is no problem with creating a cohesive universe provided that it has nothing to do with STO and the novels. All STO and the novels deserve is being set in a parallel universe and maybe acknowledged in some way like having an episode where a character from the STO Universe or Novel Universe travels to the Prime Universe. There is far too much contradicting lore in STO and the novels to create a cohesive universe with them. It is far easier for the TV Series writers to create the stories that they want, take inspiration from where they want, and just make it cohesive to the other TV series not currently existing video games or novels.
Holographic communication is extremely lousy compared to Augmented Reality Communication or Virtual Reality Communication. With AR Communication, the same effect of holographic communication would be achieved with AR glasses or neural implants and absolutely no need for a holoprojector. The only time holographic communication is useful is for telepresence with 23rd Century technology only being useful in an advisory capacity.
Virtual Reality Communication seems to be the future instead of using viewscreens or holograms. Just create a virtual world where two or more people can interact instead of having a 'ghost' in your room. Discovery seems to be far more implant crazy than other Star Trek series so everyone having a neural implant to communicate with other people in Virtual Reality makes far more sense than holographic communication.
If "lack of contradictory information" is your standard, then I'm afraid we can't even have a Trek timeline. TOS contradicted itself frequently; TNG less so, but it still happened.
And it's not up to thee or me to decide what "deserves" to be part of The Canon, that's up to the Council of Trent -- er, I mean CBS Entertainment.
Patrick Stewart: Yes, you know, I did - somewhere in the bowels of Paramount Pictures, there – I hope it still exists – there is a recording of me on camera playing Captain Picard – some of the scenes from the pilot episode with a French accent.
Peter Sagal: Really? 'Cause I've always wondered about that, because even I...
Patrick Stewart: If he was a Frenchman, why shouldn't he have a French accent? And, I mean, can you imagine it? (imitating French accent) Space, ze final frontier. (applause) It would not have worked. I have a great respect for the French and certainly I adore the French language, but no. It would not have worked. I doubt I would have sounded more like Inspector Clouseau.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
maybe he can do a convincing one now, but not back then
Honestly, I always just figured that Picard doesn't have a French accent when he speaks English because he's just that good at speaking English, and it would be more likely that a Frenchman fluent in English would sound like a Brit. I mean, which is closer to France: Britain, or the United States?
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
If "lack of contradictory information" is your standard, then I'm afraid we can't even have a Trek timeline. TOS contradicted itself frequently; TNG less so, but it still happened.
And it's not up to thee or me to decide what "deserves" to be part of The Canon, that's up to the Council of Trent -- er, I mean CBS Entertainment.
I am talking about Contradictory lore between STO and the novels not contradictory information within STO and the novels. There is no way that CBS can integrate STO lore and novel lore into one cohesive universe. You can't have the Romulan Star Empire as part of the Typhon Pact, Donatra committing suicide, Deep Space Nine is destroyed, Andorians leaving the Federation, or the Borg Collective is completely gone and the Romulan Star Empire is secretly allied with the Iconians, Donatra assimilated by the Borg, Deep Space Nine was never destroyed, Andorians are still with the Federation, and the Borg Collective is still around.
The TV series gets to decide what officially happened between Nemesis and the new Picard series not STO or any novel.
If "lack of contradictory information" is your standard, then I'm afraid we can't even have a Trek timeline. TOS contradicted itself frequently; TNG less so, but it still happened.
And it's not up to thee or me to decide what "deserves" to be part of The Canon, that's up to the Council of Trent -- er, I mean CBS Entertainment.
I am talking about Contradictory lore between STO and the novels not contradictory information within STO and the novels. There is no way that CBS can integrate STO lore and novel lore into one cohesive universe. You can't have the Romulan Star Empire as part of the Typhon Pact, Donatra committing suicide, Deep Space Nine is destroyed, Andorians leaving the Federation, or the Borg Collective is completely gone and the Romulan Star Empire is secretly allied with the Iconians, Donatra assimilated by the Borg, Deep Space Nine was never destroyed, Andorians are still with the Federation, and the Borg Collective is still around.
The TV series gets to decide what officially happened between Nemesis and the new Picard series not STO or any novel.
Ah, you misunderstood what the producers were saying, then.
Novels are not canon. They cannot be; it takes too long to write one, particularly when there's also an ongoing TV series that could invalidate one or more plot points before it's published. However, they have been working with STO, apparently in an effort to minimize the amount the game would need to be retconned in order to take the shows into account.
Heck, the novels can't even be in canon with each other - the same universe did not produce The Wounded Sky and the Typhon Pact (the concept of elective location would have rendered the entire Borg conflict moot).
If "lack of contradictory information" is your standard, then I'm afraid we can't even have a Trek timeline. TOS contradicted itself frequently; TNG less so, but it still happened.
And it's not up to thee or me to decide what "deserves" to be part of The Canon, that's up to the Council of Trent -- er, I mean CBS Entertainment.
I am talking about Contradictory lore between STO and the novels not contradictory information within STO and the novels. There is no way that CBS can integrate STO lore and novel lore into one cohesive universe. You can't have the Romulan Star Empire as part of the Typhon Pact, Donatra committing suicide, Deep Space Nine is destroyed, Andorians leaving the Federation, or the Borg Collective is completely gone and the Romulan Star Empire is secretly allied with the Iconians, Donatra assimilated by the Borg, Deep Space Nine was never destroyed, Andorians are still with the Federation, and the Borg Collective is still around.
The TV series gets to decide what officially happened between Nemesis and the new Picard series not STO or any novel.
Ah, you misunderstood what the producers were saying, then.
Novels are not canon. They cannot be; it takes too long to write one, particularly when there's also an ongoing TV series that could invalidate one or more plot points before it's published. However, they have been working with STO, apparently in an effort to minimize the amount the game would need to be retconned in order to take the shows into account.
Heck, the novels can't even be in canon with each other - the same universe did not produce The Wounded Sky and the Typhon Pact (the concept of elective location would have rendered the entire Borg conflict moot).
And STO is just as canonical as the novels. There is nothing wrong with the novels and STO trying to fit with the canon of the new TV series, but there is no way that the new TV series will follow STO's lore since writers want to create their own stories and not rehash the same content from a video game. They will just steal what they want and ignore the rest. Although, I seriously doubt Cryptic has much say if CBS wants to steal a storyline or ship from STO.
Comments
What an interesting word salad. Did you intend for it to make sense or have a point that got lost along the way or are you still getting use to the fingers on the new meat suit?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
> And that minority really ought to keep watching. The second episode of this season, "New Eden", IMO felt more like TOS than anything I've seen since '69, and the third episode, "Point of Light", wouldn't have been that out of place in TNG.
I agree, TRIBBLE deserves a second chance.
> jonsills wrote: »
>
> Midnight's Edge has put out many videos regarding various aspects of Star Trek.
>
> All of them have been wrong. I wouldn't waste my time there, were I you.
>
>
>
>
> Some people here seem to be very much into self punishment. Midnight's Edge is the definition of "fake news" in the Trek world.
Midnights Edge is a rumour Mill, not news, fake or otherwise, and they don't pretend otherwise. I treat them accordingly.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Sir Pat's story is funnier, anyway.
He sounds like a cross between Poirot and a character from 'Allo 'Allo! there.
I'd just assume WWIII ended with England retaking France and the Battle of Castillon II the sequel.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
So it is set in 2398 instead of 2399 like certain articles stated.
It depends on what you mean by the same character. Captain Kirk from TOS is not exactly the same character as Admiral Kirk from the movies. So if people expect Picard in the new series to be the same as Picard from TNG, then they will be disappointed.
With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
> Picard will have grown and aged. In my opinion, that's what P.S. meant when he said he's not the same. He will also have been affected by the breakup of the Romulan Empire. The things he's seen and done since then will have affected him deeply. And his role will not be that of the starship captain.
>
> With that speculation aside, I wonder if Hakeev is going to show up? And if so, who will play his role? Someone intense and angry. I vote for Samuel L. Jackson. Imagine Hakeev's lines delivered by S.L.J.! Of course, then we'd have to get someone to play Obisek, and if he didn't have that voice from the Reman arc, I'd be very disappointed.
Yeah it's seems obvious to me he's not in ththe same place in his life, too much has happened and changed, which is what they mean by not the same man.
With that out the way, I'm curious to see how long he lasts in his Co-EP role and lead actor position. I hope Patrick can get a good 4 or 5 seasons out. I just hope it isn't asking too much of Patrick at his age of 78. He seems pretty spritely still so i think if his series proves to be a really good addition to star trek, it would be the crowning achievement to his career and close out Picard as a character and fill in some gaps that are sorely needed.
Its a shame that Andreas Katsulas went out the picture a while ago, imagine Andy playing as Commander Tomalok again facing down an older Picard no longer in Starfleet, Epic! I hope we get to foind out more about important romulan leaders, what happened to Donatra, the reunificationists, the fallout from the hobus disaster and so on.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Hakeev and Obisek are creations of Star Trek Online so there is no reason why any STO content has to be in the new Picard series. The Picard writers will likely take inspiration from STO and other sources to create their stories for what they think the end of the 24th Century will look like and ignore the vast majority of STO content. We might see Taris and D'Tan since they were both in TNG, but it is not likely that they would be an Iconian agent or future leader of the Romulan Republic.
There's no reason why it must be, of course, but it would be an Easter Egg for the loyal STO customer, and if they need a Tal Shiar guy who's selling out the remnants of the Empire for personal power, Hakeev is as good a name as any, with Obisek being a perfect foil. The regular fans won't know, but we STO players will see Obisek putting a plasma bolt in Hakeev's head every time they come onscreen. (And then it will be Picard shooting him, just like I did the first time around!)
As the average person has now become aware, the breakup of large empires is accompanied by chaos as small groups surge toward independence against the will of their former oppressors. Multiple wars break out, and sometimes the remnant empire is strong enough to push them back down, or quickly becomes so.
The Federation will be set upon by multiple groups wanting their help, and when it isn't given they will attack the Federation. Other groups will want the supplies they can steal by raiding Federation facilities and ships. Yet other groups will blame the Federation for the whole mess and vent their frustration by attacking. And have I mentioned that when the Federation does help one group, its opposition will resent it?
The Federation post-Hobus won't be a fun place to hang out and chill: it will be a field of battle. And this is where I see the Picard series headed. Jean-Luc the mediator, ambassador, and carrier of Spock's Katra, must continue Spock's dream of Reunification in a highly fragmented, fractured, and frustrated society while civil war rages.
I imagine Picard will be the new Surak, healing the wounds of the claws of the raptor.
Check back with this thread in a few years and we'll count the number o times I guessed wrong!
At the other end of that story arc he also melds with Spock. Who's to say he and Spock didn't become good friends over the next eighteen years and just before leaving to do the Red Matter thing he stopped by to say goodbye to his friend? He did it to Bones just before he went to his almost certain death, and I can't see him not doing it with someone before he went to turn Hobus into a black hole.
But even without Spock's katra, he could have taken Spock's mission as his own. The two were probably working, if not together, at least in tandem in trying to bring the Romulans over to the light side of The Force.
There is no problem with creating a cohesive universe provided that it has nothing to do with STO and the novels. All STO and the novels deserve is being set in a parallel universe and maybe acknowledged in some way like having an episode where a character from the STO Universe or Novel Universe travels to the Prime Universe. There is far too much contradicting lore in STO and the novels to create a cohesive universe with them. It is far easier for the TV Series writers to create the stories that they want, take inspiration from where they want, and just make it cohesive to the other TV series not currently existing video games or novels.
Holographic communication is extremely lousy compared to Augmented Reality Communication or Virtual Reality Communication. With AR Communication, the same effect of holographic communication would be achieved with AR glasses or neural implants and absolutely no need for a holoprojector. The only time holographic communication is useful is for telepresence with 23rd Century technology only being useful in an advisory capacity.
Virtual Reality Communication seems to be the future instead of using viewscreens or holograms. Just create a virtual world where two or more people can interact instead of having a 'ghost' in your room. Discovery seems to be far more implant crazy than other Star Trek series so everyone having a neural implant to communicate with other people in Virtual Reality makes far more sense than holographic communication.
And it's not up to thee or me to decide what "deserves" to be part of The Canon, that's up to the Council of Trent -- er, I mean CBS Entertainment.
Actually Patrick Stewart said when he appeared on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me a couple years ago that he can't do a convincing French accent.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Honestly, I always just figured that Picard doesn't have a French accent when he speaks English because he's just that good at speaking English, and it would be more likely that a Frenchman fluent in English would sound like a Brit. I mean, which is closer to France: Britain, or the United States?
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
I am talking about Contradictory lore between STO and the novels not contradictory information within STO and the novels. There is no way that CBS can integrate STO lore and novel lore into one cohesive universe. You can't have the Romulan Star Empire as part of the Typhon Pact, Donatra committing suicide, Deep Space Nine is destroyed, Andorians leaving the Federation, or the Borg Collective is completely gone and the Romulan Star Empire is secretly allied with the Iconians, Donatra assimilated by the Borg, Deep Space Nine was never destroyed, Andorians are still with the Federation, and the Borg Collective is still around.
The TV series gets to decide what officially happened between Nemesis and the new Picard series not STO or any novel.
Novels are not canon. They cannot be; it takes too long to write one, particularly when there's also an ongoing TV series that could invalidate one or more plot points before it's published. However, they have been working with STO, apparently in an effort to minimize the amount the game would need to be retconned in order to take the shows into account.
Heck, the novels can't even be in canon with each other - the same universe did not produce The Wounded Sky and the Typhon Pact (the concept of elective location would have rendered the entire Borg conflict moot).
And STO is just as canonical as the novels. There is nothing wrong with the novels and STO trying to fit with the canon of the new TV series, but there is no way that the new TV series will follow STO's lore since writers want to create their own stories and not rehash the same content from a video game. They will just steal what they want and ignore the rest. Although, I seriously doubt Cryptic has much say if CBS wants to steal a storyline or ship from STO.