The new DS9: what should remain the same and what should change?

fleetcaptain5

Since it is very much possible that DS9 will get a revamp (given all what happened in the latest episode), I was wondering what people thought of the old Cardassian station and whether it should be replaced by something more Federation-like*, or keep its.

What do you think? Should the station get a Federation interior? Or keep the Cardassian interior? What about the exterior, should it more resemble Federation architecture or should the Devs stick with the Cardassian look?

*As an example of something more Federation-like: Some of the novels feature a renewed DS9: http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Deep_Space_9_(II)

tigeraries

ummm nothing is gonna "change" at all... they will make it look the same, or as close as possible, as in the TV show and that is it.

fleetcaptain5

The entire station should become more Federation-like (both its exterior as well as its interior)

For myself, I'd really like to see the station getting a more uniform look on the inside. All the different shapes and colours never looked that great to me. Federation corridors like we saw in the old ESD or in the tutorial may seem boring since they're the same everywhere, but at the same time it also makes Federation interiors less messy and more coherent.

To me DS9 always looked like it was put together from a dozen different smaller stations that were simply glued together. I don't mean to offend anyone or talk bad about someone's work, but I'd really prefer something more consistent.

I have less problems with the exterior - but now that the station will likely need to rebuild (from an in-game perspective) I think it would make sense not to keep the Cardassian architecture, for various reasons ranging from political ones to technological ones.

spiritborn

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

The cardassian look will mostly likely remain, seeing as it's the most "iconic" and causes the least amount of gameplay and license issues. Thus improved cardassian design is the most likely to happen.

It doesn't mean they can't improve the station within those limits as the current DS9 map in-game isn't the best possible.

tremere12

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

Gul Dukat was a good man

seriousdave

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tigeraries wrote: »

ummm nothing is gonna "change" at all... they will make it look the same, or as close as possible, as in the TV show and that is it.

This. That's the whole friggin point of it being in the game.

What I would like though is a better internal layout. Having the ship related NPCs and the mail, bank, exchange termials on the opposite sides of the station is kinda off putting.

salazarraze

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

The Cardassian look will remain. We might see a revamp similar to ESD that is not circular. I'm thinking something more rectangular with a wider promenade.

evilmark444

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

I've always hated the Cardassian appearance, but I think it's highly unlikely they would ever change it to a more Federation look. Then again, they made the Borg drones look absolutely ridiculous by giving them a new design (admittedly, that was essentially a completely different dev team from the one we have now), so anything is possible.

baddmoonrizin

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

They're more likely to revamp the interior to look more screen accurate.

spiritborn

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

evilmark444 wrote: »

I've always hated the Cardassian appearance, but I think it's highly unlikely they would ever change it to a more Federation look. Then again, they made the Borg drones look absolutely ridiculous by giving them a new design (admittedly, that was essentially a completely different dev team from the one we have now), so anything is possible.

still the new borg design while silly isn't that far from what they look in canon. radically redesigning DS9 is probably out of the question, since CBS would veto it (which is btw the same reason why no major canon characters die in STO, CBS wouldn't allow it).

avoozuul

If they do keep the original style both in and out then they need to at least fix it up as at its current state it has a lot of rough edges.

lordsteve1

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

Make it look much more screen accurate but also expand it to be better laid out and make more sense from a gameplay point of view.
E.g. have the exchange/bank etc near to other commodities and the tailor. And having both that and the ship yard be in places a bit nicer than a hollowed out cargo hold.
Plus make Quarks place more screen accurate in terms of size with maybe a holodeck to muck about in.

Oh and add in the infirmary and security office please.

where2r1

I don't care

As long as everything works, loads quickly and is easy to get around and find everything, I won't complain.

I am usually very happy with revamps the art department comes up with.

rattler2

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

We're not getting DS9-2 from the books. So no Gyroscope station. However the interior map is showing its age and is in desperate need of a revamp.

vetteguy904

revamp. the station needs to be bigger both inside and outside. maybe have 2-3 bank/exchange areas. enlarge Quarks. Add Vic'c Place either as a holodeck or his own bar ajacent to or opposite to quarks. Add an Arboretum, Security office, Medical.
make it wide enough to have kiosks in the middle of the rings like the jambja stick vendor.

kodachikuno

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honestly I expect it will just get a touch up and maybe canon fixes, but for the sake of this thread, how about the Bajorans designer their own damned station? :P If they want a UFP one, then they should 1)actually join and 2)Get one of the boring ones we see on screen elsewhere in canon

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rattler2

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

kodachikuno wrote: »

but for the sake of this thread, how about the Bajorans designer their own damned station? :P If they want a UFP one, then they should 1)actually join and 2)Get one of the boring ones we see on screen elsewhere in canon

1: The Bajorans ARE members of the Federation in STO's time period.
2: That would detract from the iconic station we know as Deep Space Nine.

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rattler2

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

galatt

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

As long as we have Kurland, all is good.

jcsww

The entire station should become more Federation-like (both its exterior as well as its interior)

I would like to see the Federation designed DS9 from one of the many Trek novels.

starswordc

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

kodachikuno wrote: »

honestly I expect it will just get a touch up and maybe canon fixes, but for the sake of this thread, how about the Bajorans designer their own damned station? :P If they want a UFP one, then they should 1)actually join and 2)Get one of the boring ones we see on screen elsewhere in canon

Point of order, in STO the Bajorans became full members of the Federation back in 2393.

talonxv

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Actually a few books show DS9 utterly destroyed and a new high tech station is built to replace it.

I personally wouldn't mind an attack where we defend Bajor(like the last episode) but DS9 is lost and we get a new station to replace the aging veteran.

rattler2

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

I don't see that happening because of the fact that STO isn't as flexable as WoW is in terms of story. STO's pretty rigid thanks to things like the Cardassian arc, which clearly show the DS9 we all know, which takes place in 2409. While it is 2410 now and DS9 was hammered pretty badly by the Hur'q, we can't just straight up replace the station wholesale as there is still story content with the old station. And with DS9 being a social hub...

They could get away with the interior of ESD because its a massive station and it can just be explained away as a different section of the station than we saw before. DS9... we can't really do that.

jcsww

The entire station should become more Federation-like (both its exterior as well as its interior)

rattler2 wrote: »

I don't see that happening because of the fact that STO isn't as flexable as WoW is in terms of story. STO's pretty rigid thanks to things like the Cardassian arc, which clearly show the DS9 we all know, which takes place in 2409. While it is 2410 now and DS9 was hammered pretty badly by the Hur'q, we can't just straight up replace the station wholesale as there is still story content with the old station. And with DS9 being a social hub...

They could get away with the interior of ESD because its a massive station and it can just be explained away as a different section of the station than we saw before. DS9... we can't really do that.

Took a beating enough to possibly need an exterior and interior refit. Like much of the story arcs in STO make a whole lot of sense in the first place but the missions could easily be retooled in the same way the temporal Captain's work. The station wouldn't change until you have completed all story arcs leading up to that change, which would basically change the map you warp into for DS9.

Ideally, I would like the Cardassian station and interior maps used for Empok Nor and have DS9 rebuilt as something new.

sirmayday

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

Federation/Starfleet-style rebuilding would be consistent with the story, but from an artistic standpoint, I'd rather have it remain Cardassian-style. It adds to the diversity of environments in the game, and since DS9 is effectively a cross-faction hub, having it visually over-represent just one of those factions feels wrong.

angrytarg

The entire station should keep its Cardassian look (both exterior and interior)

It's DS9 from the TV show. It looks exactly like it's supposed to, aside from being too large on the outside. Maybe the map could need a few improvements, but assuming that usually in STO improvement means removal of classic features I'd rather keep everything as it is.

ikonn

Only the interior should be made more Federation-like

I say leave the exterior alone, but the interior needs to be more in line with the show.

protoneous

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They should increase the travel time (distance) between the bank, exchange, security officer and shipyard by 5% to improve the games stats.