The official abbreviation for the Series is DSC not TRIBBLE. The use of TRIBBLE is getting to the same level of annoyance as 'Delta Rising is the best Expansion ever and the players love it'.
Bryan Fuller originally abbreviated it "TRIBBLE" before John van Citters of CBS took to Twitter to say that the new series was changed to "DSC".
Some fans just really like Fuller's work. Also, retcons happen in Trek so often, I have a hard time blaming fans for sticking with their preferred version.
The official abbreviation for the Series is DSC not TRIBBLE. The use of TRIBBLE is getting to the same level of annoyance as 'Delta Rising is the best Expansion ever and the players love it'.
The use of 'TRIBBLE' is natural, whereas DSC (I don't even know what that stands for) feels contrived and done for no greater reason than to avoid saying 'TRIBBLE' -- after you which can only conclude that some studio idiots should have thought of the abbreviation issue *before* naming the show.
I've been preferring DIS as the abbreviation. It's like the other one word shows, VOY - Voyager and ENT - Enterprise. Plus, you can just feel the rest of the name when you read and say the first syllable.
To get back in topic though, I genuinely dislike the new Klingon look. I mean, there's no in-universe explanation for why they suddenly turned blue; They got the flu back in Enterprise and subsequently prevented from spreading it in the same episode. It was very apparent that they were changed to look human, and that was it. And you can't pretend that this was a limitation of TOS. In DS9, they head back in time to the same era and the Klingons are still human-looking.
I don't see the need to feature these Klingons any further than a little costume choice they can sweep under the rug when it's out.
If it was meant normally fine but it is being used to be 'cute'.
Who said anything about 'hate'. The only 'hate' around here is from the people who don't like the show.
John Van Citters has chosen "DSC" as the series' official abbreviation. This is consistent with the studio's use of "VGR" for Star Trek: Voyager, but Memory Alpha will use the abbreviation "DIS" for Discovery, for consistency with using "VOY" for Voyager.
Van Citters became from 2006 onward Vice President, Product Development at CBS Consumer Products, managing licensed publications, which included the plethora of Star Trek merchandise....
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Hating something and not liking something isn't exactly the same thing, it's not entirely fair to say that everyone who doesn't like Discovery actually hates it.
The use of 'TRIBBLE' is natural, whereas DSC (I don't even know what that stands for) feels contrived and done for no greater reason than to avoid saying 'TRIBBLE' -- after you which can only conclude that some studio idiots should have thought of the abbreviation issue *before* naming the show.
I agree...
They did not have to use the word "Discovery" at all.
I think they wanted to use a word in the title to associate to "having found through a search or exploration".
Which would be great for a Star Trek show.....
Until, uh, someone picked the storyline that isn't matching the title.
As for the new Klingon looks.... the ridges on the forehead very detailed and interesting. Would love those as options. As far as: skull shapes and facial features not interested. Costumes: too ceremonial...I mean jeweled spikes and collars, fancy filigree and ornamentation does not scream out a being useful, especially in battle.
Now..for OFF DUTY...hey I wouldn't mind some bejeweled options for my Klingon ladies.
"Spend your life doing strange things with weird people." -- UNK
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Again, who said anything about 'command'. I only expressed that the use was getting to the point of overuse as did the Delta Rising meme. Use TRIBBLE all you want.
In some cases the use by some (no one here) reminds me of Fifth Graders who see a bird, called a 'bo*by', in National Geograpic and snicker to each other about 'bo*bies' and use the term out loud and then say they were only talking about birds.
'A bo*by is a seabird in the genus Sula, part of the Sulidae family. Bo*bies are closely related to the gannets, which were formerly included in Sula.'
Who made the syllogism about all those who dislike the show hate it? Not I. That is the syllogism problem.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Incidentally, us lot on console need to see the sliders for this. I know stobot posted about the PC method copy/pasting the screenshot thing, but that does not work for consoles.
Also, as of today (so it seems) the screenshot and saved outfits slots have stopped working on PC.
Also, as of today (so it seems) the screenshot and saved outfits slots have stopped working on PC.
Eh, that's been broken, for a while on the KDF side. I quit using it a while ago.
That is why I rarely change costumes on my characters at all. Whatever is in the 3 main costume slots is my choices. Not saved extras to reload, anywhere. I have several sitting there, supposedly saved....but the tailor is not able to access at all.
"Spend your life doing strange things with weird people." -- UNK
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
I really hope we do not get the new looking Klingons. I really dislike the look for a few reasons, 1st reason is over use of prosthetics which takes away from the actor being able to give us facial expressions or emotions, that was one of the things that made the Klingons stand out in TNG, DS9 etc. 2nd the armor looks just bad, it completly covers the actor once again which hiders their abilty to move and use body language, also it just looks too archaic. 3rd the ships and weapons, the ships just never had that klingon feel to em and looked more like flying junk just thrown together, the weapons also looked bad too me, like the bat'leth it was more of a stabing weapon then a slashing weapon, so with it being more of a stabbing weapon with the way it is designed it would be a poorly effective weapon to be used in combat. and lastly the whole idea of the Klingons is the Jar Jar Abbrams idea of ooo this looks kool but not effective at all.
Oh yay something else we have had TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY,ENT and now we all have a TRIBBLE BWAHAHAHA
These new Klingons are cool. They would beat the **** out of the Klingons from the other shows. Except for Worf and Martag, those two were legit bada$$es.
Old Klingons were better. They had a bit of an unoriginal design, but what thy lacked in looks, they made up for with legitimate character and not being made of rubber.
I agree the Enterprise (TV) Series, Khan+, and TNG Klingon's consistent across the breadth of the entire timeline except TOS (60's) when makeup wasn't as good was explained by Enterprise as Augment Virus.
Regardless... I agree with you disqord I think Old or Klingon's as they've mostly been portrayed were far better. I think they would have been better served with several new Klingon uniforms based on the House they serve within even if there are common elements.
It's almost horrible they made this drastic change to a familiar look which is going to be difficult to explain why they look one way on Enterprise, then in Discovery appear completely different, then we have Augment Klingon's in ToS, then with Khan and the Movies / TNG they back as they were on Enterprise.
The use of 'TRIBBLE' is natural, whereas DSC (I don't even know what that stands for) feels contrived and done for no greater reason than to avoid saying 'TRIBBLE' -- after you which can only conclude that some studio idiots should have thought of the abbreviation issue *before* naming the show.
I agree...
They did not have to use the word "Discovery" at all.
I think they wanted to use a word in the title to associate to "having found through a search or exploration".
Which would be great for a Star Trek show.....
Until, uh, someone picked the storyline that isn't matching the title.
As for the new Klingon looks.... the ridges on the forehead very detailed and interesting. Would love those as options. As far as: skull shapes and facial features not interested. Costumes: too ceremonial...I mean jeweled spikes and collars, fancy filigree and ornamentation does not scream out a being useful, especially in battle.
Now..for OFF DUTY...hey I wouldn't mind some bejeweled options for my Klingon ladies.
Maybe I'm cynical in my old age, but I think it was named ST Discovery on purpose. They knew it would get people talking about the show. Even if it was people making jokes about it (TRIBBLE). Any publicity is good publicity as the old saying goes.
Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't put it past studios these days to dip to such great lows... I can see it now... some brainiac in the marketing department thought it was a sure fire way to get people talking about the show and convinced the others it was a good idea.
all while studiously removing everything that made Klingons iconic from the species. Instead of Mercurial, passionate, aggressive, blunt, 'kick me if you dare' warriors, they gave us ritualistic, slow moving paste-slug Ork wannabees.
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Some fans just really like Fuller's work. Also, retcons happen in Trek so often, I have a hard time blaming fans for sticking with their preferred version.
The use of 'TRIBBLE' is natural, whereas DSC (I don't even know what that stands for) feels contrived and done for no greater reason than to avoid saying 'TRIBBLE' -- after you which can only conclude that some studio idiots should have thought of the abbreviation issue *before* naming the show.
To get back in topic though, I genuinely dislike the new Klingon look. I mean, there's no in-universe explanation for why they suddenly turned blue; They got the flu back in Enterprise and subsequently prevented from spreading it in the same episode. It was very apparent that they were changed to look human, and that was it. And you can't pretend that this was a limitation of TOS. In DS9, they head back in time to the same era and the Klingons are still human-looking.
I don't see the need to feature these Klingons any further than a little costume choice they can sweep under the rug when it's out.
If it was meant normally fine but it is being used to be 'cute'.
Who said anything about 'hate'. The only 'hate' around here is from the people who don't like the show.
John Van Citters has chosen "DSC" as the series' official abbreviation. This is consistent with the studio's use of "VGR" for Star Trek: Voyager, but Memory Alpha will use the abbreviation "DIS" for Discovery, for consistency with using "VOY" for Voyager.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jvancitters/status/756983274208198656
Van Citters became from 2006 onward Vice President, Product Development at CBS Consumer Products, managing licensed publications, which included the plethora of Star Trek merchandise....
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I agree...
They did not have to use the word "Discovery" at all.
I think they wanted to use a word in the title to associate to "having found through a search or exploration".
Which would be great for a Star Trek show.....
Until, uh, someone picked the storyline that isn't matching the title.
As for the new Klingon looks.... the ridges on the forehead very detailed and interesting. Would love those as options. As far as: skull shapes and facial features not interested. Costumes: too ceremonial...I mean jeweled spikes and collars, fancy filigree and ornamentation does not scream out a being useful, especially in battle.
Now..for OFF DUTY...hey I wouldn't mind some bejeweled options for my Klingon ladies.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
In some cases the use by some (no one here) reminds me of Fifth Graders who see a bird, called a 'bo*by', in National Geograpic and snicker to each other about 'bo*bies' and use the term out loud and then say they were only talking about birds.
'A bo*by is a seabird in the genus Sula, part of the Sulidae family. Bo*bies are closely related to the gannets, which were formerly included in Sula.'
Who made the syllogism about all those who dislike the show hate it? Not I. That is the syllogism problem.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Also, as of today (so it seems) the screenshot and saved outfits slots have stopped working on PC.
Eh, that's been broken, for a while on the KDF side. I quit using it a while ago.
That is why I rarely change costumes on my characters at all. Whatever is in the 3 main costume slots is my choices. Not saved extras to reload, anywhere. I have several sitting there, supposedly saved....but the tailor is not able to access at all.
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Oh yay something else we have had TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY,ENT and now we all have a TRIBBLE BWAHAHAHA
I agree the Enterprise (TV) Series, Khan+, and TNG Klingon's consistent across the breadth of the entire timeline except TOS (60's) when makeup wasn't as good was explained by Enterprise as Augment Virus.
Regardless... I agree with you disqord I think Old or Klingon's as they've mostly been portrayed were far better. I think they would have been better served with several new Klingon uniforms based on the House they serve within even if there are common elements.
It's almost horrible they made this drastic change to a familiar look which is going to be difficult to explain why they look one way on Enterprise, then in Discovery appear completely different, then we have Augment Klingon's in ToS, then with Khan and the Movies / TNG they back as they were on Enterprise.
Maybe I'm cynical in my old age, but I think it was named ST Discovery on purpose. They knew it would get people talking about the show. Even if it was people making jokes about it (TRIBBLE). Any publicity is good publicity as the old saying goes.
Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't put it past studios these days to dip to such great lows... I can see it now... some brainiac in the marketing department thought it was a sure fire way to get people talking about the show and convinced the others it was a good idea.
Could be wrong. But sadly, probably not.