I won't be playing Content again with short duration like Maru

newromulan

I did 3 failed pugs. That was enough. In all 3 I did at least half the damage and in 2 was the only healer. This game is built upon pug matches. If they keep putting content which requires a slight learning curve to master, then proceed to only run it for 4 or 5 days only, it leads to frustrating gaming experiences.

Cryptic if you are going to put a failure condition on content, don't release it for just a few days. Most people can't adjust their skill/play style in that time frame. That is total B.S. I have very little time to waste on your game, and failing content is not what I plan to continue. I am not asking for easy mode either. But this limited run thing puts me off.

postinggum

if you want to succeed/win at the level then you'll need either a premade or a really lucky pug. Most of us want the weapons and a chance to revist a long lost level, and aren't really fretting on winning, that said pugs I've been in have tried and reached between lvl 6-13. You get the token on the first run of each day, thats keeping most happy.

theraven2378

postinggum wrote: »

if you want to succeed/win at the level then you'll need either a premade or a really lucky pug. Most of us want the weapons and a chance to revist a long lost level, and aren't really fretting on winning, that said pugs I've been in have tried and reached between lvl 6-13. You get the token on the first run of each day, thats keeping most happy.

If you can get past wave 3, that's what triggers the reward token

salazarraze

I like the concept behind these new weekend events. Failed pugs aren't a problem because you can just redo it after 30 minutes. Just play something else in the game while you're waiting.

nikeix

I've only been pugging and didn't know you could fail. Sorry to hear you've had such terrible luck.

davefenestrator

My experience was 3 pugs, 3 tokens. (Disclaimer: This was with me in a Paradox with Mk XIV VR or better gear.) I think you only need to reach wave 3 not complete it.

tom61sto

davefenestrator wrote: »

My experience was 3 pugs, 3 tokens. (Disclaimer: This was with me in a Paradox with Mk XIV VR or better gear.) I think you only need to reach wave 3 not complete it.

4 PuGs, 3 tokens here. The one that failed did so at the start of wave 3. Borg vaped the shields of the KM first round, not sure what the second round was but they exploded a lot, then Borg again kept shields drained and the KM died quickly.

rattler2

Yea... it was 4 in for me too. But... it worked out in the end.

legendarylycan

as long as i make it to round 4, that's all that matters - the universe can explode at that point, and i wouldn't give a flying f.uck; i've already gotten the token​​

john53a

well my one toon finally got weapon but since its a 20 hr cool down on Account my other toons will not be able to get the weapon. I agree with OP this limited time stuff needs to go, if they can have events for 25-30 days then these events should be same of half as long. It took me awhile to figure how to do Maru and I have gotten anywhere from lvl 2 to lvl 10 with luck. Most do not understand you have to heal the maru when you can LOL

legendarylycan

if you unlocked the weapons on one character already, they've been unlocked for your account​​

john53a

every character I tried that with said I need token? so not sure whats up with that LOL
NVM i found it did some digging thanks for letting me know that part.

warpangel

salazarraze wrote: »

I like the concept behind these new weekend events. Failed pugs aren't a problem because you can just redo it after 30 minutes. Just play something else in the game while you're waiting.

There's no need to wait, just switch toon and do it again right away. The tokens can be passed in the account bank.

nightken

I got my tokens in 4 runs and that was only cause I messed up the timing on the 3rd run.

and the players as a whole don't really adapt, most are kinda terrible so they suck no matter what they do. and for the good players see the reactions to the rebalance.

arionisa

Three toons, nine pugs, never failed to complete at least round three, best was round six, although it was a close thing a couple times with the Maru trying to suicide by flying right into the mouth of the doomsday device. Both of those runs someone was actually noticeably healing the Maru, it can, barely, survive the doomsday blast if it's at 100%.

Those were the only runs where I ever saw the Maru's health ever go back up, (my own failed attempts at trying to heal it are in another post) so as far as watching the health bar showed, that's seven successful pugs even without the Maru being healed.

The first three of those were untimed, the last six were in the timed que, only because it seems to pop a bit faster......and the last few of the timed ques were where I saw someone noticeably healing the Maru.

It really sucks that you got the raw end of random chance and hit three failed pugs but it's not due to Cryptic designing a bad mission. It is nothing more than random chance that three times in a row the five people who qued at just the right time to get teamed together couldn't make it past round three.

Just my opinion, but I actually like the fact that the mission can be failed. Otherwise there would be no point in wasting time and resources to create the mission in the first place. If it couldn't be failed Cryptic might as well save the money and just reward players for staying logged in at least fifteen minutes for three days in a row.

Edited cause my fingers don't always type all the words my brain dictates.

mmps1

Was in a maru run for about what 40 minutes. Round 45. Seems like pretty long content to me.

legendarylycan

arionisa wrote: »

Both of those runs someone was actually noticeably healing the Maru, it can, barely, survive the doomsday blast if it's at 100%.

the maru is immune to the doomsday device​​

newromulan

Maybe I got unlucky and got 3 bad pugs. Maybe the Maru kept moving into enemy clusters. Maybe no one but me was doing very much. My point is that I have very little time to play. 30 min a day max. I don't have time to run content on multiple toons every day just to find a pug that succeeds. I also don't mind the fail condition if the event went for more than a few days. That would allow casual players time to succeed.
That is my point. That the event with fail conditions should not be run for just a few days. I am also not fond of the Maru moving around as well.

garaks31

play the (u...) vers.!!

arionisa

shadowfang240 wrote: »

arionisa wrote: »

Both of those runs someone was actually noticeably healing the Maru, it can, barely, survive the doomsday blast if it's at 100%.

the maru is immune to the doomsday device​​

If that is the case, then twice now something has caused massive damage to the Maru at the exact same time the Doomsday device fired. It is quite possible since the DD is never the only enemy around at the time and I normally stay focused on following the Maru and shooting whatever enemy is in front of me. I'm not good enough to scan 360 regularly, and as I'm running DBBs if there's an enemy in my firing arc, the others elsewhere don't matter much to me anyway.

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themadprofessor

coldnapalm wrote: »

newromulan#1567 wrote: »

Maybe I got unlucky and got 3 bad pugs. Maybe the Maru kept moving into enemy clusters. Maybe no one but me was doing very much. My point is that I have very little time to play. 30 min a day max. I don't have time to run content on multiple toons every day just to find a pug that succeeds. I also don't mind the fail condition if the event went for more than a few days. That would allow casual players time to succeed.
That is my point. That the event with fail conditions should not be run for just a few days. I am also not fond of the Maru moving around as well.

Or you suck badly enough that you can't carry the pug. I have yet to fail a pug, but the first three wave I can take out on my own so there is literally no chance of me failing a pug. Start at one of the score posts, remember to take out the launcher and work your way around. Heal the maru between matches...it's not hard to solo this stupid thing for 3 rounds. Round 4 even. Now round 5...that could get a bit harder to solo pass...but really, by than, you "won" already. This game is stupid easy...we do not need to make it even MORE stupid easy.

Easy there, coldnapalm... Remember, constructive criticism, not insults.

meimeitoo

I failed all pugs... but only after lv 7 or so.

newromulan

Sure I could have done better no doubt. I could have developed a better strategy to carry the group. But for someone who now plays no more than 1 hour a week, that would take some time to figure out. Needing to do this and pass, 3 out of 5 days is not enough time. And even round 2 there was the initial wave, plus Borg cubes and other powerful ships would spawn on top or close to the Maru. There was no run where enemy ships were not within striking distance with seconds of spawning. Other than spamming aoe attacks, how do you handle that?
I still say this event only lasting a few days and having a fail condition is a bad idea.

steaen

I've done 3 PUGs, got 3 tokens, job done.

I've enjoyed playing it too - nice to have something different even if only for a short time.

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echatty

Sounds like one of those players who likes having an "I win" button and whines when they lose.

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echatty

If he isn't pressing his "I win" button it's his own fault. Can't complain about something that's you're own fault...oh wait...that gets done all the time around her...my bad...

baddmoonrizin

echatty

Still, I'd like to point out to the OP that the Kobyashi Maru is called the No-Win Scenario for a reason. I don't think any but the highest DPS-oriented ships would ever 'win' the timed version. Best you can do is survive as many waves as you can and keep the ship healed, from what I hear.

I didn't play it, I've been very ill all weekend and wouldn't have helped any PUG out there. Sorry I was a bit snappy BMR, will watch my fingers from now on.