Well I do agree that FED have twice the ships as KDF or ROM. The last year has really helped close the GAP on SCI ships specifically for KDF & ROM. While FED will always have likely twice the selection as their are 2 - 2.5x as many players who purchase more FED ships.
I will say there now is quite a good selection of across all categories for TAC, ENG or SCI regardless of the faction flown. Perhaps there are slightly fewer ships for KDF or ROM but there are enough especially given the universal or varied consoles to being able to configure any ship to meet your needs.
Also realize every player would acquire the Temporal 31st Cross Faction Starships regardless which faction you primarily fly because they can be used by any captain so make good use of them. There plenty of ships to FLY so if ROM or KDF simply are looking to obtain more for Admiralty don't forget Mirror ships or others that can be found for a few million EC on the exchange or earned thru events, from obtaining level 10 in admiralty, as well as one of the missions that rewards I Temporal Wells.
I get where you're coming from, coldnapalm, and I agree with a lot of your points.
However, using Appeal to Authority and Ad Hominem Attacks are not the way to win a debate.
You assuming I am attempting to debate him at this point. I gave up on that ages ago when he has shown that he isn't somebody who is actually interested in a debate and things like facts don't seem to matter to him. I am at this point working on destroying anything he says to prevent his idiotic ideas from spreading.
But by directly attacking him and not his ideas, you are failing to destroy what he says and making yourself out to be a colossal jerk in the process.
His idea was taken apart by page 2. He has added nothing new as to why his idea would work since page 1. So that part is done. Unfortunately, in this era of I feel it's right so it is, facts don't matter as much as emotional appeal and that is what he is going after and that is what I am attacking at this point. It's sad that we have come to this point, but here we are. And it is no secret that I am a jerk...and seriously if you think that me being a jerk makes me wrong despite EVERYTHING else that points to me being right, you are part of the problem and really, I could care less what you think.
People take things personally.
They think through emotion rather than intellect.
MANY are prone to this disease, sadly.
I do not understand his obsession with a donut shop.
What is the link to STO?
Yes many people can't think and use feeling to figure out how the world is. Look in the mirror there, because if you could think, you would have realized why your idea would not work and is a bad idea by page 2 and let it drop. You however feel you are right and feel that the faction should have parity and feel that what the devs are doing is wrong so it is...despite EVERYTHING factually based saying you are wrong. So...yeah....
I never said that you were wrong. In fact, I flat-out told you that I agreed with what you said. I said that your APPROACH was wrong. It's not just about what you say, but HOW YOU SAY IT.
I can tell you right now that your use of insults when talking to people is what makes them outright ignore you.
If you were to approach it from a calm, rational manner and fully explain it instead of essentially saying "hurr durr you're stupid and here's why," you'd probably get a better response from the people you talk to.
If you want people to respect what you have to say, you need to show at least a modicum of respect to them.
As my grandmother used to say: You will catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
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Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Well I do agree that FED have twice the ships as KDF or ROM. The last year has really helped close the GAP on SCI ships specifically for KDF & ROM. While FED will always have likely twice the selection as their are 2 - 2.5x as many players who purchase more FED ships.
Because there are 2-2.5x as many players who are ALLOWED to purchase Fed ships.
Well I do agree that FED have twice the ships as KDF or ROM. The last year has really helped close the GAP on SCI ships specifically for KDF & ROM. While FED will always have likely twice the selection as their are 2 - 2.5x as many players who purchase more FED ships.
Because there are 2-2.5x as many players who are ALLOWED to purchase Fed ships.
Why because they don't feel like playing anything but Fed? Personally, if I had to play a Klingon, KDF wouldn't interest me. Similarly, if Romulans were RSE, I'd be far less interested. It's unrealistic to expect all players to like all factions equally.
Stipulating all of the claims as true, (I think some may be, actually,) the question becomes one of how to proceed from here.
Will rehashing old history and second guessing old decisions help?
Will demanding parity in the absence of any proof that players in general want to pay for it help?
Will insulting those responsible for getting us to this point help?
After five years at STO I have seen these methods fail time and time again. Even if you don't accept my premise that what appears to you to be malice might have other causes, you have to accept that five years of second guessing, demands, and insults has not resulted in the improvements you want.
What do you call a football team that refuses to change its strategy in a season marked by losses? What do you call a general who refuses to change his strategy while his enemy isolates his forces? What do you call a politician who refuses to address the issue of the day as his poll numbers drop?
While I don't agree with every accusation and I don't agree with insulting people for doing what they thought best at the time, I do agree that some of us want more attention paid to our favorite neglected faction. I support the goal; I don't think our current course has a chance of getting us there.
What I do advocate is polite advocacy. It is perfectly alright to ask for something. It is unlikely that such a request paired with derrogatory or insulting commentary will even be read. We need to remember that we as customers can buy their product or refuse to do so, and we can give our reasons for doing so, but we cannot make anyone at Cryptic do anything, regardless of our fervency or tone. We must convince them to want to do it.
Incentive. Sometimes praise will get you what you want. Sometimes money. Money works very well, and so my Pledge Drive idea. Sometimes proving that a decision was made with innacurate data helps. But you must maintain a helpful tone or your target audience will summarily dismiss you without a fair hearing.
So, the past happened. Let it go. You can't change the past, but you can help to bring about the future you want by staying positive and avoiding the kinds of behavior which make people dismiss you, and thus any good ideas you may have.
How about a Forum Fundraiser? And I don't just mean some Zen-Pledge, but an actual KickStarter/GoFundMe $/€/£ Fundraiser?
I believe it was worked out on one of these threads, how much it would actually cost in terms of man-hours to create someone's 'dream ship', so it shouldn't be impossible to work out a figure for creating X Amount of ships, or hiring the staff to create them.
And before anyone starts dismissing the notion because of the amount that would add up to, let me point out, that Alec Peters managed to raise over A Million Dollars for Axanar. A Million Dollars. Un-authorized, un-licensed, un-supported. A Million Fricking Dollars.
Why would this be different?
Cryptic are licensed to use the Star Trek IP(with approvals, of course) They are allowed to profit from use of the Star Trek IP. They should have none of the legal issues Alec Peters ran into.
So, what's to stop them, as a company, accepting a donation/outside injection of capital into their funds? Funds which could be put specifically towards giving the KDF and RR as many 'leveling' ships and variants, and T5/T66 ships as the UFP.
Specific funds, for a specific project aim. I can't think of any reason why a business can't accept donations.
I feel like the people don't realize that they actually already won. They don't realize it because they forgotten the past?
How many new KDF ships in the years leading up to Tier 6? Compared to how many were added to the Feds?
With Tier 6, yes, Fed still gets the occasional Fed-only release - but the number of new KDF ships is totally unprecendeted. It seems that with TIer 6, Cryptic really sat down, looked at their numbers, looked at what they tried, and formulated a plan on how to deliver more ships to each faction, and how it would pay for the cost. I bet that the KDF and RR ships get them less money then the Fed ship, but the cross-faction packs encourage many people to buy ships they otherwise would not, and thus they still make good profits, and keep their KDF and RR fans happy (or at least happier.)
Story-Wise, they focused a lot on integrating Romulans and Klingons into the story. No faction-agnostic story lines, and the story tends to be the same regardless of what faction you play - but you interact with lots of Romulan and Klingon characters in the main plot, and they often drive significant parts of the story. There was a time where new content was a lot more ... Fed-bland in this game.
Of course we can still imagine things to be better. It might not be feasible. At least not always. Throwing suggestions at the wall can't hurt, because maybe one of them does work well for Cryptic.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
What I do advocate is polite advocacy. It is perfectly alright to ask for something. It is unlikely that such a request paired with derrogatory or insulting commentary will even be read. We need to remember that we as customers can buy their product or refuse to do so, and we can give our reasons for doing so, but we cannot make anyone at Cryptic do anything, regardless of our fervency or tone. We must convince them to want to do it.
People asked for Ferasan Ships, we have one. People asked for KDF science ships, we have them. Clearly asking for things does work, though often not immediately, and maybe not what the people asking had in mind. I, for one, never thought they'd make a 3-pack out of the Varanus. I was also expecting a Ferasan Carrier, not an Escort. Either way the ships we did get are nice. Even the T-6 D'Kyr knock-off is a great ship to fly. #RomulanStuffIsAwesome
You can see the amount of effort poured into the Non-Feds in even the actual ships themselves that were released.
Go to the ship tailor.
With your Fed ships, how many hull and part options do you have? Many have 3-4 options due to prior ship releases.
With your KDF & Rom ships, how many hull and part options do you have? You'd be exceptionally lucky to find a ship with 3, because many have 1.
For example, you have the Cross Faction Light Cruiser release that included the Miranda. The Miranda has history in the game, having ShiKahr, Centaur, Miranda, Saratoga skins. The Rom & KDF versions? Just one. That's it.
There's also this: When a ship has been fixed up to go from a prior tier to a new version at Tier VI, what faction ships get updated original skins?
Galaxy, Galaxy-X, Sovereign, Miranda, Nebula, Intrepid, Defiant, etc. received very nice visual updates to the canon skins.
The KDF & Rom ships never get that treatment. B'Rel, Negh'Var, Mogai, D'Deridex, etc never got any updates to the original canon skins.
Indeed.
See, let me tell you people what I ACTUALLY read here:
Not: "We cannot put a few people temporarily that do fed things on other factions"
But: " We DO NOT WANT to put a few people..."
Reassigning a few people costs NOTHING out of the ordinary.
They ALREADY get payed for their job on Fed stuff.
It won't cost a cent more.
Seriously, putting time on the KDF with Fed based people would do NOTHING cost wise.
The Feds would get a wee less for a period (and THIS I think is what so bothers many) while the KDF would get a bit more...
Klingons don't get drunk.
They just get less sober.
Well I do agree that FED have twice the ships as KDF or ROM. The last year has really helped close the GAP on SCI ships specifically for KDF & ROM. While FED will always have likely twice the selection as their are 2 - 2.5x as many players who purchase more FED ships.
Because there are 2-2.5x as many players who are ALLOWED to purchase Fed ships.
Why because they don't feel like playing anything but Fed? Personally, if I had to play a Klingon, KDF wouldn't interest me. Similarly, if Romulans were RSE, I'd be far less interested. It's unrealistic to expect all players to like all factions equally.
Exactly. Also some players just want to focus on one character, period.
Personally, I have no particular preference of origin story. I've played them all, they're all nice enough. And none of them mean jack squat beyond a certain point in the storyline anyway. But my interst in alts ends at occasional dil/event farming. They get outfitted with free and account unlock stuff and used for storage or to make profit for my main. I would totally buy the other origin stories' stuff just like I buy all the non-Alliance stuff...if I was allowed to use it with the character I actually want to play.
The faction restrictions are a lost opportunity for Cryptic to sell people like me more stuff.
You can see the amount of effort poured into the Non-Feds in even the actual ships themselves that were released.
Go to the ship tailor.
With your Fed ships, how many hull and part options do you have? Many have 3-4 options due to prior ship releases.
With your KDF & Rom ships, how many hull and part options do you have? You'd be exceptionally lucky to find a ship with 3, because many have 1.
For example, you have the Cross Faction Light Cruiser release that included the Miranda. The Miranda has history in the game, having ShiKahr, Centaur, Miranda, Saratoga skins. The Rom & KDF versions? Just one. That's it.
There's also this: When a ship has been fixed up to go from a prior tier to a new version at Tier VI, what faction ships get updated original skins?
Galaxy, Galaxy-X, Sovereign, Miranda, Nebula, Intrepid, Defiant, etc. received very nice visual updates to the canon skins.
The KDF & Rom ships never get that treatment. B'Rel, Negh'Var, Mogai, D'Deridex, etc never got any updates to the original canon skins.
Indeed.
See, let me tell you people what I ACTUALLY read here:
Not: "We cannot put a few people temporarily that do fed things on other factions"
But: " We DO NOT WANT to put a few people..."
Reassigning a few people costs NOTHING out of the ordinary.
They ALREADY get payed for their job on Fed stuff.
It won't cost a cent more.
Seriously, putting time on the KDF with Fed based people would do NOTHING cost wise.
The Feds would get a wee less for a period (and THIS I think is what so bothers many) while the KDF would get a bit more...
If Cryptic is run the way most companies are, then they use a project-based system, which means their budget is allocated to individual projects instead of being an overall pool to pull from. If this is the case, then reassigning a couple of people from one project to another means that the budget and man-hours allocated to the project they get reassigned to goes over while the one they come from takes a hit in productivity due to lack of resources.
That means that both projects are negatively affected.
Space Barbie Extraordinaire. Got a question about Space Barbie? Just ask.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
You can see the amount of effort poured into the Non-Feds in even the actual ships themselves that were released.
Go to the ship tailor.
With your Fed ships, how many hull and part options do you have? Many have 3-4 options due to prior ship releases.
With your KDF & Rom ships, how many hull and part options do you have? You'd be exceptionally lucky to find a ship with 3, because many have 1.
For example, you have the Cross Faction Light Cruiser release that included the Miranda. The Miranda has history in the game, having ShiKahr, Centaur, Miranda, Saratoga skins. The Rom & KDF versions? Just one. That's it.
There's also this: When a ship has been fixed up to go from a prior tier to a new version at Tier VI, what faction ships get updated original skins?
Galaxy, Galaxy-X, Sovereign, Miranda, Nebula, Intrepid, Defiant, etc. received very nice visual updates to the canon skins.
The KDF & Rom ships never get that treatment. B'Rel, Negh'Var, Mogai, D'Deridex, etc never got any updates to the original canon skins.
Indeed.
See, let me tell you people what I ACTUALLY read here:
Not: "We cannot put a few people temporarily that do fed things on other factions"
But: " We DO NOT WANT to put a few people..."
Reassigning a few people costs NOTHING out of the ordinary.
They ALREADY get payed for their job on Fed stuff.
It won't cost a cent more.
Seriously, putting time on the KDF with Fed based people would do NOTHING cost wise.
The Feds would get a wee less for a period (and THIS I think is what so bothers many) while the KDF would get a bit more...
If Cryptic is run the way most companies are, then they use a project-based system, which means their budget is allocated to individual projects instead of being an overall pool to pull from. If this is the case, then reassigning a couple of people from one project to another means that the budget and man-hours allocated to the project they get reassigned to goes over while the one they come from takes a hit in productivity due to lack of resources.
That means that both projects are negatively affected.
I can understand this, but the project can be made in a way the other faction is "being focused on" for a while.
If I were chief there, I'd make projects so, that if situations come to exist, it can be put in the project.
Personally I would not go for a more rigid project system, but a more loosely one so things can be done when needed.
This bug is years old. It's even worse now, since the ship is invisible as the animation sequence plays.
There are a few of these situations in the KDF.
Now, I cannot say, this is not in the Federation, as i do not play the Federation, TBH.
So, in this regard, I will keep quiet.
Klingons don't get drunk.
They just get less sober.
You can see the amount of effort poured into the Non-Feds in even the actual ships themselves that were released.
Go to the ship tailor.
With your Fed ships, how many hull and part options do you have? Many have 3-4 options due to prior ship releases.
With your KDF & Rom ships, how many hull and part options do you have? You'd be exceptionally lucky to find a ship with 3, because many have 1.
For example, you have the Cross Faction Light Cruiser release that included the Miranda. The Miranda has history in the game, having ShiKahr, Centaur, Miranda, Saratoga skins. The Rom & KDF versions? Just one. That's it.
There's also this: When a ship has been fixed up to go from a prior tier to a new version at Tier VI, what faction ships get updated original skins?
Galaxy, Galaxy-X, Sovereign, Miranda, Nebula, Intrepid, Defiant, etc. received very nice visual updates to the canon skins.
The KDF & Rom ships never get that treatment. B'Rel, Negh'Var, Mogai, D'Deridex, etc never got any updates to the original canon skins.
Indeed.
See, let me tell you people what I ACTUALLY read here:
Not: "We cannot put a few people temporarily that do fed things on other factions"
But: " We DO NOT WANT to put a few people..."
Reassigning a few people costs NOTHING out of the ordinary.
They ALREADY get payed for their job on Fed stuff.
It won't cost a cent more.
Seriously, putting time on the KDF with Fed based people would do NOTHING cost wise.
The Feds would get a wee less for a period (and THIS I think is what so bothers many) while the KDF would get a bit more...
If Cryptic is run the way most companies are, then they use a project-based system, which means their budget is allocated to individual projects instead of being an overall pool to pull from. If this is the case, then reassigning a couple of people from one project to another means that the budget and man-hours allocated to the project they get reassigned to goes over while the one they come from takes a hit in productivity due to lack of resources.
That means that both projects are negatively affected.
I can understand this, but the project can be made in a way the other faction is "being focused on" for a while.
If I were chief there, I'd make projects so, that if situations come to exist, it can be put in the project.
Personally I would not go for a more rigid project system, but a more loosely one so things can be done when needed.
But that's me.
Playing things fast and loose in a workplace environment, especially one with a small staff and budget where deadlines are approaching and certain things need to get done by a certain date so other things can be done, is a surefire way to have a business implode.
Space Barbie Extraordinaire. Got a question about Space Barbie? Just ask.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
You can see the amount of effort poured into the Non-Feds in even the actual ships themselves that were released.
Go to the ship tailor.
With your Fed ships, how many hull and part options do you have? Many have 3-4 options due to prior ship releases.
With your KDF & Rom ships, how many hull and part options do you have? You'd be exceptionally lucky to find a ship with 3, because many have 1.
For example, you have the Cross Faction Light Cruiser release that included the Miranda. The Miranda has history in the game, having ShiKahr, Centaur, Miranda, Saratoga skins. The Rom & KDF versions? Just one. That's it.
There's also this: When a ship has been fixed up to go from a prior tier to a new version at Tier VI, what faction ships get updated original skins?
Galaxy, Galaxy-X, Sovereign, Miranda, Nebula, Intrepid, Defiant, etc. received very nice visual updates to the canon skins.
The KDF & Rom ships never get that treatment. B'Rel, Negh'Var, Mogai, D'Deridex, etc never got any updates to the original canon skins.
Indeed.
See, let me tell you people what I ACTUALLY read here:
Not: "We cannot put a few people temporarily that do fed things on other factions"
But: " We DO NOT WANT to put a few people..."
Reassigning a few people costs NOTHING out of the ordinary.
They ALREADY get payed for their job on Fed stuff.
It won't cost a cent more.
Seriously, putting time on the KDF with Fed based people would do NOTHING cost wise.
The Feds would get a wee less for a period (and THIS I think is what so bothers many) while the KDF would get a bit more...
If Cryptic is run the way most companies are, then they use a project-based system, which means their budget is allocated to individual projects instead of being an overall pool to pull from. If this is the case, then reassigning a couple of people from one project to another means that the budget and man-hours allocated to the project they get reassigned to goes over while the one they come from takes a hit in productivity due to lack of resources.
That means that both projects are negatively affected.
I can understand this, but the project can be made in a way the other faction is "being focused on" for a while.
If I were chief there, I'd make projects so, that if situations come to exist, it can be put in the project.
Personally I would not go for a more rigid project system, but a more loosely one so things can be done when needed.
But that's me.
Playing things fast and loose in a workplace environment, especially one with a small staff and budget where deadlines are approaching and certain things need to get done by a certain date so other things can be done, is a surefire way to have a business implode.
Hey, if the business implodes, at least the wife and kids aren't enslaved anymore
"I fight for the Users!" - Tron
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
Can we put a bullet in this Thread already? It will never end well.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Can we put a bullet in this Thread already? It will never end well.
I say leave it open. I want see how long it takes everyone to get tired of repeating themselves and just stop replying.
Heh... I gotta warn you, though... I can be extremely stubborn.
Space Barbie Extraordinaire. Got a question about Space Barbie? Just ask.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Man oh man... You know when coldnapalm and I team up on something, sh*t just got real.
Space Barbie Extraordinaire. Got a question about Space Barbie? Just ask.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Well I do agree that FED have twice the ships as KDF or ROM. The last year has really helped close the GAP on SCI ships specifically for KDF & ROM. While FED will always have likely twice the selection as their are 2 - 2.5x as many players who purchase more FED ships.
Because there are 2-2.5x as many players who are ALLOWED to purchase Fed ships.
Why because they don't feel like playing anything but Fed? Personally, if I had to play a Klingon, KDF wouldn't interest me. Similarly, if Romulans were RSE, I'd be far less interested. It's unrealistic to expect all players to like all factions equally.
Exactly. Also some players just want to focus on one character, period.
Personally, I have no particular preference of origin story. I've played them all, they're all nice enough. And none of them mean jack squat beyond a certain point in the storyline anyway. But my interst in alts ends at occasional dil/event farming. They get outfitted with free and account unlock stuff and used for storage or to make profit for my main. I would totally buy the other origin stories' stuff just like I buy all the non-Alliance stuff...if I was allowed to use it with the character I actually want to play.
The faction restrictions are a lost opportunity for Cryptic to sell people like me more stuff.
So.... sell more Klingon ships by letting Feds buy them?
Your core assumption seems to be incorrect though. Lots of players play all three, and those are the people that buy the cross faction packs that Cryptic has sold so many of.
Well I do agree that FED have twice the ships as KDF or ROM. The last year has really helped close the GAP on SCI ships specifically for KDF & ROM. While FED will always have likely twice the selection as their are 2 - 2.5x as many players who purchase more FED ships.
Because there are 2-2.5x as many players who are ALLOWED to purchase Fed ships.
Why because they don't feel like playing anything but Fed? Personally, if I had to play a Klingon, KDF wouldn't interest me. Similarly, if Romulans were RSE, I'd be far less interested. It's unrealistic to expect all players to like all factions equally.
Exactly. Also some players just want to focus on one character, period.
Personally, I have no particular preference of origin story. I've played them all, they're all nice enough. And none of them mean jack squat beyond a certain point in the storyline anyway. But my interst in alts ends at occasional dil/event farming. They get outfitted with free and account unlock stuff and used for storage or to make profit for my main. I would totally buy the other origin stories' stuff just like I buy all the non-Alliance stuff...if I was allowed to use it with the character I actually want to play.
The faction restrictions are a lost opportunity for Cryptic to sell people like me more stuff.
So.... sell more Klingon ships by letting Feds buy them?
Your core assumption seems to be incorrect though. Lots of players play all three, and those are the people that buy the cross faction packs that Cryptic has sold so many of.
Not necessarily. I play all three, I collect ships, and make a $>Z conversion to buy said ships, I don't grind that much purple rock, even with a dedicated dilithium mining boff I've never bought a cross-faction pack, and can't see myself ever doing it. My Rom has an Aelahl, and will likely not get anything else, because I like it(ish) My Klingon, is still too low for T6, but the lack of nice ships for levelling up, make me less inclined to level up enough to then us a T6. I wouldn't buy a cross-faction pack, because realistically, I'd only use a third of the contents (although that does give me an idea for some benevolence) but I would buy stuff while levelling the KDF toon. So it kind of is a case of selling more Klingon ships, by selling them to those who primarily play Fed, because they don't like the alternative, but who could be tempted to try/return to a KDF toon, with the right selection
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I was rather hoping this would've died already myself.
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This bug is years old. It's even worse now, since the ship is invisible as the animation sequence plays.
There are a few of these situations in the KDF.
Now, I cannot say, this is not in the Federation, as i do not play the Federation, TBH.
So, in this regard, I will keep quiet.
As far as I'm aware, this bug affects only KDF characters. Neither Federation nor Romulan characters are affected.
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I will say there now is quite a good selection of across all categories for TAC, ENG or SCI regardless of the faction flown. Perhaps there are slightly fewer ships for KDF or ROM but there are enough especially given the universal or varied consoles to being able to configure any ship to meet your needs.
Also realize every player would acquire the Temporal 31st Cross Faction Starships regardless which faction you primarily fly because they can be used by any captain so make good use of them. There plenty of ships to FLY so if ROM or KDF simply are looking to obtain more for Admiralty don't forget Mirror ships or others that can be found for a few million EC on the exchange or earned thru events, from obtaining level 10 in admiralty, as well as one of the missions that rewards I Temporal Wells.
I never said that you were wrong. In fact, I flat-out told you that I agreed with what you said. I said that your APPROACH was wrong. It's not just about what you say, but HOW YOU SAY IT.
I can tell you right now that your use of insults when talking to people is what makes them outright ignore you.
If you were to approach it from a calm, rational manner and fully explain it instead of essentially saying "hurr durr you're stupid and here's why," you'd probably get a better response from the people you talk to.
If you want people to respect what you have to say, you need to show at least a modicum of respect to them.
As my grandmother used to say: You will catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
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Will rehashing old history and second guessing old decisions help?
Will demanding parity in the absence of any proof that players in general want to pay for it help?
Will insulting those responsible for getting us to this point help?
After five years at STO I have seen these methods fail time and time again. Even if you don't accept my premise that what appears to you to be malice might have other causes, you have to accept that five years of second guessing, demands, and insults has not resulted in the improvements you want.
What do you call a football team that refuses to change its strategy in a season marked by losses? What do you call a general who refuses to change his strategy while his enemy isolates his forces? What do you call a politician who refuses to address the issue of the day as his poll numbers drop?
While I don't agree with every accusation and I don't agree with insulting people for doing what they thought best at the time, I do agree that some of us want more attention paid to our favorite neglected faction. I support the goal; I don't think our current course has a chance of getting us there.
What I do advocate is polite advocacy. It is perfectly alright to ask for something. It is unlikely that such a request paired with derrogatory or insulting commentary will even be read. We need to remember that we as customers can buy their product or refuse to do so, and we can give our reasons for doing so, but we cannot make anyone at Cryptic do anything, regardless of our fervency or tone. We must convince them to want to do it.
Incentive. Sometimes praise will get you what you want. Sometimes money. Money works very well, and so my Pledge Drive idea. Sometimes proving that a decision was made with innacurate data helps. But you must maintain a helpful tone or your target audience will summarily dismiss you without a fair hearing.
So, the past happened. Let it go. You can't change the past, but you can help to bring about the future you want by staying positive and avoiding the kinds of behavior which make people dismiss you, and thus any good ideas you may have.
I believe it was worked out on one of these threads, how much it would actually cost in terms of man-hours to create someone's 'dream ship', so it shouldn't be impossible to work out a figure for creating X Amount of ships, or hiring the staff to create them.
And before anyone starts dismissing the notion because of the amount that would add up to, let me point out, that Alec Peters managed to raise over A Million Dollars for Axanar. A Million Dollars. Un-authorized, un-licensed, un-supported. A Million Fricking Dollars.
Why would this be different?
Cryptic are licensed to use the Star Trek IP(with approvals, of course) They are allowed to profit from use of the Star Trek IP. They should have none of the legal issues Alec Peters ran into.
So, what's to stop them, as a company, accepting a donation/outside injection of capital into their funds? Funds which could be put specifically towards giving the KDF and RR as many 'leveling' ships and variants, and T5/T66 ships as the UFP.
Specific funds, for a specific project aim. I can't think of any reason why a business can't accept donations.
@ambassadorkael Would this be allowed by Cryptic?
Forumites: Would you be willing to kick in a few bucks to support an endeavour like this?
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How many new KDF ships in the years leading up to Tier 6? Compared to how many were added to the Feds?
With Tier 6, yes, Fed still gets the occasional Fed-only release - but the number of new KDF ships is totally unprecendeted. It seems that with TIer 6, Cryptic really sat down, looked at their numbers, looked at what they tried, and formulated a plan on how to deliver more ships to each faction, and how it would pay for the cost. I bet that the KDF and RR ships get them less money then the Fed ship, but the cross-faction packs encourage many people to buy ships they otherwise would not, and thus they still make good profits, and keep their KDF and RR fans happy (or at least happier.)
Story-Wise, they focused a lot on integrating Romulans and Klingons into the story. No faction-agnostic story lines, and the story tends to be the same regardless of what faction you play - but you interact with lots of Romulan and Klingon characters in the main plot, and they often drive significant parts of the story. There was a time where new content was a lot more ... Fed-bland in this game.
Of course we can still imagine things to be better. It might not be feasible. At least not always. Throwing suggestions at the wall can't hurt, because maybe one of them does work well for Cryptic.
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See, let me tell you people what I ACTUALLY read here:
Not: "We cannot put a few people temporarily that do fed things on other factions"
But: " We DO NOT WANT to put a few people..."
Reassigning a few people costs NOTHING out of the ordinary.
They ALREADY get payed for their job on Fed stuff.
It won't cost a cent more.
Seriously, putting time on the KDF with Fed based people would do NOTHING cost wise.
The Feds would get a wee less for a period (and THIS I think is what so bothers many) while the KDF would get a bit more...
They just get less sober.
Personally, I have no particular preference of origin story. I've played them all, they're all nice enough. And none of them mean jack squat beyond a certain point in the storyline anyway. But my interst in alts ends at occasional dil/event farming. They get outfitted with free and account unlock stuff and used for storage or to make profit for my main. I would totally buy the other origin stories' stuff just like I buy all the non-Alliance stuff...if I was allowed to use it with the character I actually want to play.
The faction restrictions are a lost opportunity for Cryptic to sell people like me more stuff.
If Cryptic is run the way most companies are, then they use a project-based system, which means their budget is allocated to individual projects instead of being an overall pool to pull from. If this is the case, then reassigning a couple of people from one project to another means that the budget and man-hours allocated to the project they get reassigned to goes over while the one they come from takes a hit in productivity due to lack of resources.
That means that both projects are negatively affected.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Holodeck ticket 3,472,538: On KDF characters, ship warps out before transwarp animation play
This bug is years old. It's even worse now, since the ship is invisible as the animation sequence plays.
If I were chief there, I'd make projects so, that if situations come to exist, it can be put in the project.
Personally I would not go for a more rigid project system, but a more loosely one so things can be done when needed.
But that's me. There are a few of these situations in the KDF.
Now, I cannot say, this is not in the Federation, as i do not play the Federation, TBH.
So, in this regard, I will keep quiet.
They just get less sober.
Playing things fast and loose in a workplace environment, especially one with a small staff and budget where deadlines are approaching and certain things need to get done by a certain date so other things can be done, is a surefire way to have a business implode.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I say leave it open. I want see how long it takes everyone to get tired of repeating themselves and just stop replying.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Heh... I gotta warn you, though... I can be extremely stubborn.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
Some people will get tired of repeating themselves and start just insulting eachother instead, at which point the mods close it.
thats fine too. ether way I want to see how long it takes. I don't it'll last much longer anyway.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Your core assumption seems to be incorrect though. Lots of players play all three, and those are the people that buy the cross faction packs that Cryptic has sold so many of.
My character Tsin'xing
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As far as I'm aware, this bug affects only KDF characters. Neither Federation nor Romulan characters are affected.