@piotrtiberius: Actual properly written 23rd century Klingons would've been as disgusted with the current Empire's behavior, especially Kahless, as everyone else except apparently somtaawkhar was. Problem is, Cryptic wrote them like stereotypical twenty-FIFTH century Klingons.
@smokebailey: "Eye for an eye", nothing. As it is, the Iconians cut out the eye and then charged us for surgery. If you want to quote Exodus, try 20:13, which correctly reads "Thou shalt not commit murder." Murder is killing billions of people two hundred thousand years removed from the original offense. Killing military forces, facilities, and leaders in response to an unprovoked invasion is called "self-defense". This isn't using a nuke to settle an argument, this is using a nuke to end a war.
And as far as the Omega idea goes, quite frankly anyone still living within a parsec of the Herald Sphere deserves a Darwin Award as much as Kahless.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Yawn. I think we're all tired of the klingon hate by now can we please end this idiotic argument.
What kind of Starfleet officer goes around burdened by such disgraceful prejudices?
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
@piotrtiberius: Actual properly written 23rd century Klingons would've been as disgusted with the current Empire's behavior, especially Kahless, as everyone else except apparently somtaawkhar was. Problem is, Cryptic wrote them like stereotypical twenty-FIFTH century Klingons.
@smokebailey: "Eye for an eye", nothing. As it is, the Iconians cut out the eye and then charged us for surgery. If you want to quote Exodus, try 20:13, which correctly reads "Thou shalt not commit murder." Murder is killing billions of people two hundred thousand years removed from the original offense. Killing military forces, facilities, and leaders in response to an unprovoked invasion is called "self-defense". This isn't using a nuke to settle an argument, this is using a nuke to end a war.
And as far as the Omega idea goes, quite frankly anyone still living within a parsec of the Herald Sphere deserves a Darwin Award as much as Kahless.
Yea...and we all know how GREAT using nukes is. ~Rolls eyes~
Oh....so any species, especially ones who don't have faster that light travel, has now been DENIED the chance...they just has to 'deal with it', huh? Not to mention the folks who might not have been able to get out in time, or have been captured.
As the other of folks said, I hope you never get into a position of power, we got enough manics causing problems already as it is.
I kinda figured Ezri would be an Admiral by now lol
She probably turned down the promotion. Besides... she wouldn't be as old as someone like Janeway. I kinda wanna say she was in her 20s when she was assigned to DS9. Also, if Harry Kim is only a Captain now, I don't see why Ezri would be an Admiral just because she was a Lt. JG when she was introduced.
And I thought Ezri Dax didn't like Rak... Klingon Coffee. I remember she ordered one on DS9, then gagged because it was JADZIA who liked it and not her.
Also I can never remember how to spell the name of that drink.
If this is a teaser of the next Star Trek veteran to voice a character in STO... HELL YES! I liked Ezri. She was cute.
After 30+ yearsh, Ezri probably got a chance to either aquire a taste for raktajino, or at least tolerate it
Scr*w that, the Klingons deserve to be taken down a peg; they have absolutely nothing to be proud of. It was one of their commanders that wasted an entire fleet trying to zerg-rush the freaking Herald Sphere, and it was them who wasted five g*ddamn years on a pointless land-grab against the Federation that achieved nothing but pouring blood and treasure into a meat grinder.
Cryptic, please stop trying to shill Kahless II as anything other than an abject waste of air who completely bollocksed-up every single combat mission he ever went on. He died an ignominious and well-deserved death because he was a f*cking moron.
Thank you.
You mean it was one of their commanders who attempted a direct attack on the Iconians, because the only other option was a super weapon whose use would go against every single moral and ethical principle of each of the factions involved. A situation that MORAL IMPERATIVE DEMANDS YOU TRY the normal way before resorting to such measures.
Also, the war with the Federation served the purpose of getting the Federation off their asses and actually involved in the Undine conflict. Had the Klingons done nothing, the Federation would have just sat around, gotten destroy by the Undine, and thus, the galaxy would have fallen to the Iconian menace.
And Kahless died pulling a King Leonidas, showing that even gods could in fact bleed. Which in turn only gave the Alliance the push they needed to win the war.
I get that you hate the Klingons(all your past posts show it) but come on.
Can I have a cookie too?
Pretty please with whipped cream and a cherry on top?
As for T6 Vestas... On the one hand there were rumours they're not happening, on the other, we have this piece, they fit well the current FE theme, and could be a good basis for a 9-pack we probably getting with the anniversary. Not to mention lots of people (me included) want them, and are ready to pay...
Q should have sent an invite to the Klingons on K-13
One could consider the Advanced Science 3-Pack as a good indication that a more science joy is coming to the Romulans and Klingons
I kinda figured Ezri would be an Admiral by now lol
Don't let them promote you, don't let the transfer you, don't let them do ANYTHING, that takes you out of that chair, because while you're there....you can make a difference.
Kahless the Reborn fought with us. He single-handedly turned the tide of an Iconian assault!
That's, uh, not quite how I remember it...
Which means by Klingon standards she's doing it right. The point of the story isn't that it's true, but that it conveys what the storyteller wants you to feel. That the Klingon Empire is still mighty and strong and that Kahless met his end valiantly and honorably on the battlefield against an impossible foe, and that it meant something to the war and the people involved.
A minor nitpick: Ezri Dax did not actually like raktajino. After being joined she sometimes ordered it due to being overwhelmed by Jadzia's memories but she did not enjoy raktajino personally.
But he was a Klingon from a century and a half in the past who I doubt would care for coffee/tea/whatever the Trill equivalent is.
I'm more surprised that K-13's food processors can pop out a Raktajino.
Kahless the Reborn fought with us. He single-handedly turned the tide of an Iconian assault!
That's, uh, not quite how I remember it...
she was trying to AVOID a fight, not start one
telling them their reborn figure of legend pulled a major stupid and lost one of their most valuable artifacts in the process is NOT a good way to achieve that
besides, any good tale is generously laced with embellishment - klingon or otherwise
Scr*w that, the Klingons deserve to be taken down a peg; they have absolutely nothing to be proud of. It was one of their commanders that wasted an entire fleet trying to zerg-rush the freaking Herald Sphere, and it was them who wasted five g*ddamn years on a pointless land-grab against the Federation that achieved nothing but pouring blood and treasure into a meat grinder.
Cryptic, please stop trying to shill Kahless II as anything other than an abject waste of air who completely bollocksed-up every single combat mission he ever went on. He died an ignominious and well-deserved death because he was a f*cking moron.
Thank you.
I take it diplomacy is not your strong suit?
Also part of her primary function is to be a counselor. Mental Health generally is not about strong kicks to the morale and making these out of time antsy Klingons feel like **** about themselves.
And likely insulting Kahless like this would only inspire them to grab a victory for them empire and try to take over the station and the Aventine, the very thing she's trying to put ice on.
I agree. All things considered, Dax's history with the Klingons and Ezri's profession is a good reason as any to request that Ezri Dax take up this mission.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Scr*w that, the Klingons deserve to be taken down a peg; they have absolutely nothing to be proud of. It was one of their commanders that wasted an entire fleet trying to zerg-rush the freaking Herald Sphere, and it was them who wasted five g*ddamn years on a pointless land-grab against the Federation that achieved nothing but pouring blood and treasure into a meat grinder.
Cryptic, please stop trying to shill Kahless II as anything other than an abject waste of air who completely bollocksed-up every single combat mission he ever went on. He died an ignominious and well-deserved death because he was a f*cking moron.
Thank you.
You mean it was one of their commanders who attempted a direct attack on the Iconians, because the only other option was a super weapon whose use would go against every single moral and ethical principle of each of the factions involved. A situation that MORAL IMPERATIVE DEMANDS YOU TRY the normal way before resorting to such measures.
Also, the war with the Federation served the purpose of getting the Federation off their asses and actually involved in the Undine conflict. Had the Klingons done nothing, the Federation would have just sat around, gotten destroy by the Undine, and thus, the galaxy would have fallen to the Iconian menace.
And Kahless died pulling a King Leonidas, showing that even gods could in fact bleed. Which in turn only gave the Alliance the push they needed to win the war.
I get that you hate the Klingons(all your past posts show it) but come on.
Can I have a cookie too?
Pretty please with whipped cream and a cherry on top?
You got it!
~Pulls a rope and it rains cookies ontop of Celestial, covering him/her to eyebrow level~
And....
~Pulls out a large can of whip cream, shakes it, and she starts flying about the room from the great pressure of the can~
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! O_O!!!!!!!
~lands on her rump on a convenient hay bale~ Hmmm? ~looks at bale~ Wonder if Graham Chapman and Michael Palin landed on this one? ~looks about the room, the place all covered in whipped cream~ Whoa! o_O! ~looks at can~ That Ferengi kitchen merchant was not lying about this being a bargain! ~Walks over to Celestial and proceeds covering him/her with the stuff~ And for the finish! ~takes out a bowl of black cherries and empties them on Celestial's head~
Yeesh...
I've seen less vitrolic debate at family gatherings... (Though I will chime in that I'm not fond not just of Novel Ezri, but the Trill race in general for a few different reasons, not least because of how inconsistantly they were presented...)
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Sorry, I was actually directing that more at the whole Iconian War exchange (which is literally 'so last year' as they say) than the Dax Debate. Apologies for any confusion.
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
They should have called Worf, Kagran or any of the other numerous Klingons we've allied with in recent times, not some jumped up know-it-all Starfleet Officer!
I think a big factor there is location; deep in the Alpha Quadrant and a long way from Klingon territory. I'm sure the Klingons are on their way, just Starfleet got support ships there first (And the Romulans are just feeling sort of left out...)
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They should have called Worf, Kagran or any of the other numerous Klingons we've allied with in recent times, not some jumped up know-it-all Starfleet Officer!
I think a big factor there is location; deep in the Alpha Quadrant and a long way from Klingon territory. I'm sure the Klingons are on their way, just Starfleet got support ships there first (And the Romulans are just feeling sort of left out...)
I see where you are coming from, but DS9 is situated in the Alpha Quadrant, and there is usually a Klingon presence there.
But you are not wrong - I guess I just don't like the fact that the writer has come awfully close to mirroring the attitude frequently displayed in the novels; that SuperDax will 'get there faster and do things better' than anyone else.
D'Vex is on DS9, isn't he? Answerable only to the Federation President and the Klingon Chancellor, that's a degree of authority and position of honor that even Klingons (and Starfleet too) from the 23rd Century would respect...
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
They should have called Worf, Kagran or any of the other numerous Klingons we've allied with in recent times, not some jumped up know-it-all Starfleet Officer!
I think a big factor there is location; deep in the Alpha Quadrant and a long way from Klingon territory. I'm sure the Klingons are on their way, just Starfleet got support ships there first (And the Romulans are just feeling sort of left out...)
I see where you are coming from, but DS9 is situated in the Alpha Quadrant, and there is usually a Klingon presence there.
But you are not wrong - I guess I just don't like the fact that the writer has come awfully close to mirroring the attitude frequently displayed in the novels; that SuperDax will 'get there faster and do things better' than anyone else.
Well, the Multi-missions do have that slipstream upgrade if you buy all of them (admittedly, from the novels), so I guess Erzi bought the three-pack.
Actually, more seriously -
Repair shuttles and environment-suited work crews worked steadily over the hull, replacing and repairing critical components. It would take some time, but the station would be functional once more.
So the Starfleet relief ship from the asteroid-dodging mission that wasn't quite there in time has arrived. The Aventine's carrying relief supplies, but also a counselling staff so they can start fixing the people. Erzi's there due to her counseling experience as well as semi-firsthand knowledge of what TOS-era Klingons were like, not as the 'only ship in the sector'.
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They should have called Worf, Kagran or any of the other numerous Klingons we've allied with in recent times, not some jumped up know-it-all Starfleet Officer!
I think a big factor there is location; deep in the Alpha Quadrant and a long way from Klingon territory. I'm sure the Klingons are on their way, just Starfleet got support ships there first (And the Romulans are just feeling sort of left out...)
I see where you are coming from, but DS9 is situated in the Alpha Quadrant, and there is usually a Klingon presence there.
But you are not wrong - I guess I just don't like the fact that the writer has come awfully close to mirroring the attitude frequently displayed in the novels; that SuperDax will 'get there faster and do things better' than anyone else.
Well, the Multi-missions do have that slipstream upgrade if you buy all of them (admittedly, from the novels), so I guess Erzi bought the three-pack.
Actually, more seriously -
Repair shuttles and environment-suited work crews worked steadily over the hull, replacing and repairing critical components. It would take some time, but the station would be functional once more.
So the Starfleet relief ship from the asteroid-dodging mission that wasn't quite there in time has arrived. The Aventine's carrying relief supplies, but also a counselling staff so they can start fixing the people. Erzi's there due to her counseling experience as well as semi-firsthand knowledge of what TOS-era Klingons were like, not as the 'only ship in the sector'.
Doesn't change my opinion. A little difficult to beleive that there would be no Vulcans or other long-lived species (such as the Klingons themselves!) still alive who were alive at that time and who could be called upon, able to relay first hand experience rather than someone else's memories?
Or Temporal Agents, let's not forget them... Especially since some of them are our AoY characters...
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
They should have called Worf, Kagran or any of the other numerous Klingons we've allied with in recent times, not some jumped up know-it-all Starfleet Officer!
I think a big factor there is location; deep in the Alpha Quadrant and a long way from Klingon territory. I'm sure the Klingons are on their way, just Starfleet got support ships there first (And the Romulans are just feeling sort of left out...)
I see where you are coming from, but DS9 is situated in the Alpha Quadrant, and there is usually a Klingon presence there.
But you are not wrong - I guess I just don't like the fact that the writer has come awfully close to mirroring the attitude frequently displayed in the novels; that SuperDax will 'get there faster and do things better' than anyone else.
Well, the Multi-missions do have that slipstream upgrade if you buy all of them (admittedly, from the novels), so I guess Erzi bought the three-pack.
Actually, more seriously -
Repair shuttles and environment-suited work crews worked steadily over the hull, replacing and repairing critical components. It would take some time, but the station would be functional once more.
So the Starfleet relief ship from the asteroid-dodging mission that wasn't quite there in time has arrived. The Aventine's carrying relief supplies, but also a counselling staff so they can start fixing the people. Erzi's there due to her counseling experience as well as semi-firsthand knowledge of what TOS-era Klingons were like, not as the 'only ship in the sector'.
Doesn't change my opinion. A little difficult to beleive that there would be no Vulcans or other long-lived species (such as the Klingons themselves!) still alive who were alive at that time and who could be called upon, able to relay first hand experience rather than someone else's memories?
Or Temporal Agents, let's not forget them... Especially since some of them are our AoY characters...
That's the pity of this really; it would have served quite nicely as an AoY character exclusive (playable) story, rather than a SuperDax saves the day story.
That's a totally fair point. Given the AoY char history, you figure they'd be sizing the place for curtains.
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Now I'm rather pleased with myself for inserting "SuperDax" into the forum lexicon.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
but as it is over a hundred years later, they would be wondering why the agent is still alive and at the same age if it happened to be a human or andorian, and possibly a tellarite - so violation still occurs
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Considering that T'Met, you know, the Vulcan Science officer AoY characters get, technically served with some of the Starfleet officers before joining your crew when K-13 was lost would probably be enough to get them not to tell tales out of school. Especially since the previous Tales of K-13 blogs have had a focus on reactions to lost friends and family, the fact that another friend and station-mate survived would have a good chance to reassure them.
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Considering that T'Met, you know, the Vulcan Science officer AoY characters get, technically served with some of the Starfleet officers before joining your crew when K-13 was lost would probably be enough to get them not to tell tales out of school. Especially since the previous Tales of K-13 blogs have had a focus on reactions to lost friends and family, the fact that another friend and station-mate survived would have a good chance to reassure them.
Not that our cover story's that solid.
"We were looking up what happened to friends and family, and saw that T'Met evacuated the station before it got pulled through."
"What happened to her?"
"Well, it's weird, there's two sets of data when we put in the name, one says she died heroically at the Battle of Caleb IV, the other just says 'Nothing to see here, move along' in family history and her Academy tour". Same biometric data and everything.
"Oh, probably a coincidence, not worth calling."
"True."
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Considering that T'Met, you know, the Vulcan Science officer AoY characters get, technically served with some of the Starfleet officers before joining your crew when K-13 was lost would probably be enough to get them not to tell tales out of school. Especially since the previous Tales of K-13 blogs have had a focus on reactions to lost friends and family, the fact that another friend and station-mate survived would have a good chance to reassure them.
Not that our cover story's that solid.
"We were looking up what happened to friends and family, and saw that T'Met evacuated the station before it got pulled through."
"What happened to her?"
"Well, it's weird, there's two sets of data when we put in the name, one says she died heroically at the Battle of Caleb IV, the other just says 'Nothing to see here, move along' in family history and her Academy tour". Same biometric data and everything.
"Oh, probably a coincidence, not worth calling."
"True."
Yep, cover story's about as solid as Cardassian assurances, circa 2368, that absolutely nothing was going on in the DMZ... I half expect to get confronted by some Ensign commenting on my 'great-grandfather of the same name whom I look surprisingly identical to' every time I play an AoY character (which with certain kit problems that remain unfixed isn't as often as it was before "Artifacts"...). Let's face it, that cover story was just an excuse to be lazy and not come up with even new dialogue for AoY characters for the most part (Only time I've encountered anything that recognises me as anything but a Fed is "Terminal Expanse" where the Kelvin version of your old CO comments that you're supposed to be at the Academy terrorizing Midshipmen...).
With century lifespans (Vulcan, Klingon, Romulan, Ferengi, etc), stasis (the whole of K-13), temporal anomalies (the crew of the Bozeman, including the Federation Temporal Agent on ESD), and even Miracles (copyright Montgomery Scott and the Jenolen transporter pattern buffer), this hand-waved, 'word of DM' lack of involvement with K-13 (except for Fleets, of course... *rolls eyes* because forbid it that FLEETS don't get a new holding with special perks whenever there's a major update) is, to put it bluntly, weak. I mean, who would be better at helping a bunch of time-displaced 23rd Centurions adjust to the 25th Century than someone who has already been there, done that and got the shiny new combadge and Odyssey-pattern uniform?
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
That's the pity of this really; it would have served quite nicely as an AoY character exclusive (playable) story, rather than a SuperDax saves the day story.
Except that wouldn't work because, you know, you're supposed to be dead, and Daniels had to fake your history to hide the fact that you are someone who is recorded as dead.
You can't just go "I WAS THERE!", that doesn't make any sense as it would blow your cover.
I think a big factor there is location; deep in the Alpha Quadrant and a long way from Klingon territory. I'm sure the Klingons are on their way, just Starfleet got support ships there first (And the Romulans are just feeling sort of left out...)
We are out right told the Klingons are sending a ship
K13 was pulled away before we 'died' so other than checking 25th century historical records they wouldn't know anything about what happened subsequent to their disappearance.
Again - Caleb IV happened after the K13 event and there is, therefore, no 'cover' to be blown.
And sorry, but saying 'I was there, I was pulled through time' (which is all the explaination that would be needed) probably wouldn't be terribly difficult for a group of people who were pulled through time themselves to beleive to be honest.
Now I'm rather pleased with myself for inserting "SuperDax" into the forum lexicon.
An apt term considering that she is written more like a friggin X-Men character than a Starfleet officer.
Considering the TNG/X-Men crossovers....
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Now I'm rather pleased with myself for inserting "SuperDax" into the forum lexicon.
You know that in history this day will be marked by infamy for that addition?
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
That's a totally fair point. Given the AoY char history, you figure they'd be sizing the place for curtains.
Exactly - our AoY characters actually visited the place immediately before it went missing for goodness sake!
And there would be no violation of the Temporal Prime Directive either - the crew of K13 wouldn't know that our AoY character sacrificed themselves and their ship at Caleb IV.
Yeah, but given the histories involved, wouldn't our AoY characters be just as likely to size the Klingons for coffins as to want to help them?
That's a totally fair point. Given the AoY char history, you figure they'd be sizing the place for curtains.
Exactly - our AoY characters actually visited the place immediately before it went missing for goodness sake!
And there would be no violation of the Temporal Prime Directive either - the crew of K13 wouldn't know that our AoY character sacrificed themselves and their ship at Caleb IV.
Yeah, but given the histories involved, wouldn't our AoY characters be just as likely to size the Klingons for coffins as to want to help them?
I think we got out Klingon coffin-fitting quota out of the way through the Klingon War arc. Hopefully. (Or possibly heavy counseling, which included which tropes 2410 Trek uses- 'Sir, please stop trying to talk the computer to death because the holodeck as a device to explore fantasies limits human potential'.)
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@smokebailey: "Eye for an eye", nothing. As it is, the Iconians cut out the eye and then charged us for surgery. If you want to quote Exodus, try 20:13, which correctly reads "Thou shalt not commit murder." Murder is killing billions of people two hundred thousand years removed from the original offense. Killing military forces, facilities, and leaders in response to an unprovoked invasion is called "self-defense". This isn't using a nuke to settle an argument, this is using a nuke to end a war.
And as far as the Omega idea goes, quite frankly anyone still living within a parsec of the Herald Sphere deserves a Darwin Award as much as Kahless.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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What kind of Starfleet officer goes around burdened by such disgraceful prejudices?
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Yea...and we all know how GREAT using nukes is. ~Rolls eyes~
Oh....so any species, especially ones who don't have faster that light travel, has now been DENIED the chance...they just has to 'deal with it', huh? Not to mention the folks who might not have been able to get out in time, or have been captured.
As the other of folks said, I hope you never get into a position of power, we got enough manics causing problems already as it is.
After 30+ yearsh, Ezri probably got a chance to either aquire a taste for raktajino, or at least tolerate it
Can I have a cookie too?
Pretty please with whipped cream and a cherry on top?
Q should have sent an invite to the Klingons on K-13
One could consider the Advanced Science 3-Pack as a good indication that a more science joy is coming to the Romulans and Klingons
I agree. All things considered, Dax's history with the Klingons and Ezri's profession is a good reason as any to request that Ezri Dax take up this mission.
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You got it!
~Pulls a rope and it rains cookies ontop of Celestial, covering him/her to eyebrow level~
And....
~Pulls out a large can of whip cream, shakes it, and she starts flying about the room from the great pressure of the can~
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! O_O!!!!!!!
~lands on her rump on a convenient hay bale~ Hmmm? ~looks at bale~ Wonder if Graham Chapman and Michael Palin landed on this one? ~looks about the room, the place all covered in whipped cream~ Whoa! o_O! ~looks at can~ That Ferengi kitchen merchant was not lying about this being a bargain! ~Walks over to Celestial and proceeds covering him/her with the stuff~ And for the finish! ~takes out a bowl of black cherries and empties them on Celestial's head~
ALL DONE!!!!!
I've seen less vitrolic debate at family gatherings... (Though I will chime in that I'm not fond not just of Novel Ezri, but the Trill race in general for a few different reasons, not least because of how inconsistantly they were presented...)
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I think a big factor there is location; deep in the Alpha Quadrant and a long way from Klingon territory. I'm sure the Klingons are on their way, just Starfleet got support ships there first (And the Romulans are just feeling sort of left out...)
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D'Vex is on DS9, isn't he? Answerable only to the Federation President and the Klingon Chancellor, that's a degree of authority and position of honor that even Klingons (and Starfleet too) from the 23rd Century would respect...
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Well, the Multi-missions do have that slipstream upgrade if you buy all of them (admittedly, from the novels), so I guess Erzi bought the three-pack.
Actually, more seriously -
So the Starfleet relief ship from the asteroid-dodging mission that wasn't quite there in time has arrived. The Aventine's carrying relief supplies, but also a counselling staff so they can start fixing the people. Erzi's there due to her counseling experience as well as semi-firsthand knowledge of what TOS-era Klingons were like, not as the 'only ship in the sector'.
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Or Temporal Agents, let's not forget them... Especially since some of them are our AoY characters...
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That's a totally fair point. Given the AoY char history, you figure they'd be sizing the place for curtains.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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Not that our cover story's that solid.
"We were looking up what happened to friends and family, and saw that T'Met evacuated the station before it got pulled through."
"What happened to her?"
"Well, it's weird, there's two sets of data when we put in the name, one says she died heroically at the Battle of Caleb IV, the other just says 'Nothing to see here, move along' in family history and her Academy tour". Same biometric data and everything.
"Oh, probably a coincidence, not worth calling."
"True."
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Yep, cover story's about as solid as Cardassian assurances, circa 2368, that absolutely nothing was going on in the DMZ... I half expect to get confronted by some Ensign commenting on my 'great-grandfather of the same name whom I look surprisingly identical to' every time I play an AoY character (which with certain kit problems that remain unfixed isn't as often as it was before "Artifacts"...). Let's face it, that cover story was just an excuse to be lazy and not come up with even new dialogue for AoY characters for the most part (Only time I've encountered anything that recognises me as anything but a Fed is "Terminal Expanse" where the Kelvin version of your old CO comments that you're supposed to be at the Academy terrorizing Midshipmen...).
With century lifespans (Vulcan, Klingon, Romulan, Ferengi, etc), stasis (the whole of K-13), temporal anomalies (the crew of the Bozeman, including the Federation Temporal Agent on ESD), and even Miracles (copyright Montgomery Scott and the Jenolen transporter pattern buffer), this hand-waved, 'word of DM' lack of involvement with K-13 (except for Fleets, of course... *rolls eyes* because forbid it that FLEETS don't get a new holding with special perks whenever there's a major update) is, to put it bluntly, weak. I mean, who would be better at helping a bunch of time-displaced 23rd Centurions adjust to the 25th Century than someone who has already been there, done that and got the shiny new combadge and Odyssey-pattern uniform?
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Considering the TNG/X-Men crossovers....
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You know that in history this day will be marked by infamy for that addition?
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I think we got out Klingon coffin-fitting quota out of the way through the Klingon War arc. Hopefully. (Or possibly heavy counseling, which included which tropes 2410 Trek uses- 'Sir, please stop trying to talk the computer to death because the holodeck as a device to explore fantasies limits human potential'.)
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