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Epic Star Trek Speeches

fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
edited November 2016 in Ten Forward
I fully expect this to wind up filled with amazing Patrick Stewart Speeches. However, he wasn't the only one to make them! He's just the one the trope is named after. I can also expect several Whoopi Epiphany Speeches. So throw in your epic moments where what is said was infinitely more important than firing a phaser.

Here's one:

You know, there are some words I've known since I was a schoolboy. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably." Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. (ST:TNG The Drumhead, as said by Patrick Stewart/Captain Picard)
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    Don't know if it's a speech, but it's more than one sentence, and that's something:

    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." — Q (TNG: "Q Who")
  • fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    From ST:TNG I, Borg:

    Guinan: If you are going to use this person...

    Picard: It's not a person, dammit, it's a Borg!

    Guinan: If you're going to use this person to destroy his entire species, you should at least look him in the eye. Otherwise, you might find that decision much harder to live with than you realize.
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    fluffymoof wrote: »
    From ST:TNG I, Borg:

    Guinan: If you are going to use this person...

    Picard: It's not a person, dammit, it's a Borg!

    Guinan: If you're going to use this person to destroy his entire species, you should at least look him in the eye. Otherwise, you might find that decision much harder to live with than you realize.

    Guinan had some cohonaz.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Damar: And so two years ago, our government signed a treaty with the Dominion. In it the Dominion promised to extend Cardassia's influence throughout the Alpha Quadrant. In exchange, we pledged ourselves to join the war against the Federation and its allies. Cardassians have never been afraid of war, a fact we've proven time and again over these past two years. Seven million of our brave soldiers have given their lives to fulfill our part of the agreement, and what has the Dominion done in return? Nothing. We've gained no new territories. In fact, our influence throughout the quadrant has diminished. And to make matters worse, we are no longer masters in our own home. Travel anywhere in Cardassia and what do you find? Jem'Hadar, Vorta, and now Breen. Instead of the invaders, we have become the invaded. Our allies have conquered us without firing a single shot. Well, no longer. This morning, detachments of the Cardassian First, Third and Ninth Orders attacked the Dominion outpost on Rondac III. This assault marks the first step toward the liberation of our homeland, from the true oppressors of the Alpha Quadrant. I call upon Cardassians everywhere. Resist. Resist today. Resist tomorrow. Resist till the last Dominion soldier has been driven from our soil! "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Changing Face of Evil (#7.20)"​​
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    "I am First Omet'iklan, and I am dead. As of this moment, we are all dead. We go into battle to reclaim our lives. This we do gladly, for we are Jem'Hadar." - "I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. I am very much alive, and I intend to stay that way." - "Amen! Let's get it done!" -Omet'iklan, Miles O'Brien, Benjamin Sisko

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    I saw a gazelle...

    Dis one?

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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Kirk usually did dialog rather than soliloquy, so this, from "Mirror, Mirror":

    MIRROR!SPOCK: You must return to your universe. I must have my captain back. I shall operate the transporter. You have two minutes and ten seconds.

    KIRK: In that time I have something to say. How long before the Halkan prediction of galactic revolt is realized?

    SPOCK: Approximately two hundred and forty years.

    KIRK: The inevitable outcome?

    SPOCK: The Empire shall be overthrown, of course.

    KIRK: The illogic of waste, Mister Spock. The waste of lives, potential, resources, time. I submit to you that your Empire is illogical because it cannot endure. I submit that you are illogical to be a willing part of it.

    SPOCK: You have one minute and twenty three seconds.

    KIRK: If change is inevitable, predictable, beneficial, doesn't logic demand that you be a part of it?

    SPOCK: One man cannot summon the future.

    KIRK: But one man can change the present. Be the captain of this Enterprise, Mister Spock. Find a logical reason for sparing the Halkans and make it stick. Push till it gives. You can defend yourself better than any man in the fleet.
    ...
    KIRK: What will it be? Past or future? Tyranny or freedom? It's up to you.

    SPOCK: It is time.

    KIRK: In every revolution, there's one man with a vision.

    SPOCK: Captain Kirk, I shall - consider it.​​
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    My favorite Kirk speech ever?

    From Return to Tomorrow (this is the Memory Alpha copy)

    "They used to say if man could fly, he'd have wings... but he did fly. He discovered he had to. Do you wish that the first Apollo mission hadn't reached the moon, or that we hadn't gone on to Mars or the nearest star? That's like saying you wish that you still operated with scalpels and sewed your patients up with catgut like your great-great-great-great-grandfather used to. I'm in command. I could order this. But I'm not... because... Dr. McCoy is right in pointing out the enormous danger potential in any contact with life and intelligence as fantastically advanced as this. But I must point out that the possibilities, the potential for knowledge and advancement is equally great. Risk... risk is our business! That's what this starship is all about... that's why we're aboard her!"

    The main theme kicking in the background makes it even better if listened to. It's practically the Star Trek mission statement.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    Star Trek Generations

    Kirk: Captain of the Enterprise, huh?

    Picard: That's right.

    Kirk: Close to retirement?

    Picard: I'm not planning on it.

    Kirk: Well let me tell you something. Don't! Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do *anything* that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference.
  • I had too much fun with this...

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    There are many parts of my youth that I'm not proud of. There were loose threads - untidy parts of me that I would like to remove. But when I pulled on one of those threads, it unraveled the tapestry of my life.~~Jean-Luc Picard,Tapestry

    "In that book which is my memory, on the first page of the chapter that is the day when I first met you appear the words: Here begins a new life." ~The Doctor, Latent Image

    "Death is that state where one lives only in the memory of others, which is why it is not an end. No goodbyes—just good memories." ~Tasha Yar, Skin of Evil

    "It sits there looking at me, and I don't know what it is. This case has dealt with metaphysics, with questions best left to saints and philosophers. I am neither competent nor qualified to answer those. I've got to make a ruling, to try to speak to the future. Is Data a machine? Yes. Is he the property of Starfleet? No. We have all been dancing around the basic issue. Does Data have a soul? I don't know that he has. I don't know that I have! But I have got to give him the freedom to explore that question himself. It is the ruling of this court that Lieutenant Commander Data has the freedom to choose." ~Phillipa Louvois, Measure of a Man

    "I am female. I was born that way. I have had those feelings… those longings… all my life. It is not unnatural. I am not sick because I feel this way. I do not need to be helped, and I do not need to be cured. What I do need — what all of those like me need — is your understanding and your compassion. We do not injure you in any way. And yet we are scorned, and attacked. And all because we are different. What we do is no different from what you do. We talk and laugh… we complain about work and we wonder about growing old… we talk about our families, and we worry about the future…We cry with each other when things seem hopeless. All the loving things that you do with each other… that’s what we do. And for that, we are called misfits, and deviants… and criminals. What right do you have to punish us? What right do you have to change us? What makes you think you can dictate how people love each other?" ~Soren, The Outcast

    "Spock: Fascinating. You have an efficient intellect, superior physical skills, no emotional impediments. There are Vulcans who aspire all their lives to achieve what you've been given by design.
    Data: You are half human?
    Spock: Yes.
    Data: Yet you have chosen a Vulcan way of life?
    Spock: I have.
    Data: In effect, you have abandoned what I have sought all my life." ~Unification (Part II)

    "Data: I have been reviewing the history of armed rebellion and it appears that terrorism is an effective way to promote political change.
    Jean-Luc Picard: Yes, it can be, but I have never subscribed to the theory that political power flows from the barrel of a gun." ~The High Ground

    "Future Admiral Kathryn Janeway: I didn't spend the last 10 years looking for a way to get this crew home early so you could throw it all away on some intergalactic good-will mission.
    Captain Kathryn Janeway: Maybe we should go back to sickbay?
    Future Admiral Janeway: Why? So you can have me sedated?
    Captain Kathryn Janeway: So I can have the Doctor reconfirm your identity. I refuse to believe I'll ever become as cynical as you." ~Endgame

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    Data: That may be impossible, sir.
    Jean-Luc Picard: Data, things are only impossible until they're not." ~When the Bough Breaks

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    Jean-Luc Picard: When I realized the paradox.
    Q: Exactly. For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknowable possibilities of existence."~All Good Things...
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    "That's why you came to me, isn't it, Captain? Because you knew I could do those things that you weren't capable of doing. Well, it worked. And you'll get what you want, a war between the Romulans and the Dominion. And if your conscience is bothering you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Alpha Quadrant, and all it cost was the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal, and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain."
    -- Elim Garak, "In the Pale Moonlight"
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    starswordc wrote: »
    "That's why you came to me, isn't it, Captain? Because you knew I could do those things that you weren't capable of doing. Well, it worked. And you'll get what you want, a war between the Romulans and the Dominion. And if your conscience is bothering you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Alpha Quadrant, and all it cost was the life of one Romulan senator, one criminal, and the self-respect of one Starfleet officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that a bargain."
    -- Elim Garak, "In the Pale Moonlight"
    "So, at 0800 hours, station time, the Romulan Empire formally declared war against the Dominion. They've already struck fifteen bases along the Cardassian border. So, this is a huge victory for the good guys! This may even be the turning point of the entire war. There is even a 'Welcome to the Fight'-party tonight in the wardroom!

    "So... I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all... I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again - I would. Garak was right about one thing: a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it... I can live with it...

    (long pause)

    "Computer - erase that entire personal log."

    - Ben Sisko, closing monologue, "In the Pale Moonlight"

    (Edited because I think it reads better this way)​​
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    ^And on the flip side, DS9 also gave us this gem:

    ADM. ROSS: "Inter arma, enim silent leges."
    BASHIR: "In time of war, the law falls silent." Cicero. So is that what we have become? A twenty-fourth-century Rome driven by nothing more than the certainty that Caesar can do no wrong?!

    (I always like to point out that Ross's only response to that was to basically pull rank and tell him to shut up.)
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,596 Community Moderator
    edited December 2016
    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: It would take ten years of normal exposure to begin to reverse their condition. Some of them won't survive that long. Besides, they don't want to live in the middle of the Briar Patch. Who would?
    Jean-Luc Picard: The Ba'ku. We are betraying the principles upon which the Federation was founded. It's an attack upon its very soul. And it will destroy the Ba'ku... just as cultures have been destroyed in every other forced relocation throughout history.
    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: Jean-Luc, we're only moving 600 people.
    Jean-Luc Picard: How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million? How many people does it take, Admiral?
    -Star Trek: Insurrection
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: It would take ten years of normal exposure to begin to reverse their condition. Some of them won't survive that long. Besides, they don't want to live in the middle of the Briar Patch. Who would?
    Jean-Luc Picard: The Ba'ku. We are betraying the principles upon which the Federation was founded. It's an attack upon its very soul. And it will destroy the Ba'ku... just as cultures have been destroyed in every other forced relocation throughout history.
    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: Jean-Luc, we're only moving 600 people.
    Jean-Luc Picard: How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million? How many people does it take, Admiral?
    -Star Trek: Insurrection

    It suffers a bit considering the whole movie plot is so freaking pointless. The Admiral is right, it's just 600 people - resettling them was stupid in the first place, they could easily share the planet especially after we learned they aren't actually pre-warp but simply dicks pig-2.gif​​
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    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    angrytarg wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: It would take ten years of normal exposure to begin to reverse their condition. Some of them won't survive that long. Besides, they don't want to live in the middle of the Briar Patch. Who would?
    Jean-Luc Picard: The Ba'ku. We are betraying the principles upon which the Federation was founded. It's an attack upon its very soul. And it will destroy the Ba'ku... just as cultures have been destroyed in every other forced relocation throughout history.
    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: Jean-Luc, we're only moving 600 people.
    Jean-Luc Picard: How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million? How many people does it take, Admiral?
    -Star Trek: Insurrection

    It suffers a bit considering the whole movie plot is so freaking pointless. The Admiral is right, it's just 600 people - resettling them was stupid in the first place, they could easily share the planet especially after we learned they aren't actually pre-warp but simply dicks pig-2.gif​​

    Agreed. Esepecially as it's not even their planet in the first place.

    But most importantly 'dicks' no longer apears to be censored :D.
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    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    ^Probably so people can talk about D*ck van D*ke without doing what I just did. :P
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,596 Community Moderator
    artan42 wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »

    It suffers a bit considering the whole movie plot is so freaking pointless. The Admiral is right, it's just 600 people - resettling them was stupid in the first place, they could easily share the planet especially after we learned they aren't actually pre-warp but simply dicks pig-2.gif​​

    Agreed. Esepecially as it's not even their planet in the first place.

    But most importantly 'dicks' no longer apears to be censored :D.

    I disagree on it suffering. IMO Insurrection was more of a moral story than anything else. Things weren't as clear cut. Yes when the Son'a went hostile they were the obvious antagonists, but at first they had Federation support. On top of that, Picard was right. Forced relocation is never a good thing, and actually harms a culture. While the impact may have been a bit lower since the Ba'ku actually were warp capable, the forced relocation was being considered BEFORE they learned that, which could very well be considered a violation of the Prime Directive. Native to the planet or not, what right does anyone have to force people out of their homes just to strip mine the planet of Metaphasic Radiation? At what point does it become morally wrong? Like Picard said, how many does it take? Where does it stop?

    Oh its only 600 people! Next it will be 10,000. Then a million, then...

    You see where I'm going?

    Insurrection has a deeper meaning than just pew pew and some humor. Its about right and wrong.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    The pro-relocation argument makes more sense if the movie is supposed to be set during the Dominion War (the happiness of 600 neo-Luddites versus the lives of the hundreds of thousands of soldiers trying to keep the quadrant, including those Luddites, from being overrun by a foreign power less inclined to leave them alone afterwards, makes for a pretty solid "needs of the many" argument), but I've heard conflicting information on the movie's date.

    In any case:
    KIRA: Why are you doing this?
    MARRITZA: For Cardassia. Cardassia will only survive if it stands in front of Bajor and admits the truth. My trial will force Cardassia to acknowledge its guilt. And we're guilty, all of us. My death is necessary.
    KIRA: What you're asking for is another murder. Enough good people have already died. I won't help kill another.
    -- "Duet"
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    starswordc wrote: »
    The pro-relocation argument makes more sense if the movie is supposed to be set during the Dominion War (the happiness of 600 neo-Luddites versus the lives of the hundreds of thousands of soldiers trying to keep the quadrant, including those Luddites, from being overrun by a foreign power less inclined to leave them alone afterwards, makes for a pretty solid "needs of the many" argument), but I've heard conflicting information on the movie's date.

    In any case:
    KIRA: Why are you doing this?
    MARRITZA: For Cardassia. Cardassia will only survive if it stands in front of Bajor and admits the truth. My trial will force Cardassia to acknowledge its guilt. And we're guilty, all of us. My death is necessary.
    KIRA: What you're asking for is another murder. Enough good people have already died. I won't help kill another.
    -- "Duet"

    Kira: Why? He wasn't Darheel!
    Assassin: He's a Cardassian! That's reason enough!
    Kira: No! It's not...

    (What I love about this scene is it shows Kira grow as a character beyond her hate for all Cardassians. Marritza showed her that a Cardassian was capable of honour - more than that, it showed her that they were capable of regretting the Occupation.)

    EDIT: Now that I think about it, it reminds me a lot of the message to G'Kar from the Centauri Emperor Turhan in S2 of Babylon 5.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,283 Arc User
    and it was probably that scene that led to her not bitching overly much when sisko ordered her to assist damar's rebellion​​
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,596 Community Moderator
    starswordc wrote: »
    The pro-relocation argument makes more sense if the movie is supposed to be set during the Dominion War (the happiness of 600 neo-Luddites versus the lives of the hundreds of thousands of soldiers trying to keep the quadrant, including those Luddites, from being overrun by a foreign power less inclined to leave them alone afterwards, makes for a pretty solid "needs of the many" argument), but I've heard conflicting information on the movie's date.

    Well... based on dialog at the start of the movie with the diplomatic thing, it sounds like it is shortly after the end of the Dominion War, and I believe it is accepted as taking place in 2375.

    And what really hammers it home for me is this:

    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: We'll simply be restoring them to their natural evolution.
    Captain Picard: Who the hell are we to determine the next course of evolution for these people?
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    rattler2 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    The pro-relocation argument makes more sense if the movie is supposed to be set during the Dominion War (the happiness of 600 neo-Luddites versus the lives of the hundreds of thousands of soldiers trying to keep the quadrant, including those Luddites, from being overrun by a foreign power less inclined to leave them alone afterwards, makes for a pretty solid "needs of the many" argument), but I've heard conflicting information on the movie's date.

    Well... based on dialog at the start of the movie with the diplomatic thing, it sounds like it is shortly after the end of the Dominion War, and I believe it is accepted as taking place in 2375.

    And what really hammers it home for me is this:

    Admiral Matthew Dougherty: We'll simply be restoring them to their natural evolution.
    Captain Picard: Who the hell are we to determine the next course of evolution for these people?

    EVOLUTION DOESN'T HAVE A COURSE! IT IS NOT A SENTIENT FORCE, YOU NUMBSKULLS!

    Ahem. Earth hominids haven't followed any kind of "natural" evolutionary path since we invented agriculture and clothing. We completely defy natural selection because we accidentally developed these abnormally huge brains capable of developing technology further than "build nest" and "use stick to reach object". If Dougherty's statement had any basis whatsoever in reality, we wouldn't be having this conversation because nobody would've come up with Star Trek to begin with.

    Goddammit, Insurrection is such a frickin' stupid movie...
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  • bwleon7bwleon7 Member Posts: 310 Arc User
    Sisko: In the Pale Moonlight

    "At oh-eight-hundred hours, station time... the Romulan Empire formally declared war against the Dominion. They've already struck fifteen bases along the Cardassian border. So, this is a huge victory for the good guys! This may even be the turning point of the entire war! There's even a "Welcome to the Fight" party tonight in the wardroom!... So... I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover up the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning of all... I think I can live with it... And if I had to do it all over again... I would. Garak was right about one thing – a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it...Because I can live with it...I can live with it. Computer – erase that entire personal log."
    Dr. Miranda Jones: I understand, Mr. Spock. The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity.
    Mr. Spock: And the ways our differences combine, to create meaning and beauty.

    -Star Trek: Is There in Truth No Beauty? (1968)
  • themadrigogsthemadrigogs Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    fluffymoof wrote: »
    I fully expect this to wind up filled with amazing Patrick Stewart Speeches. However, he wasn't the only one to make them! He's just the one the trope is named after. I can also expect several Whoopi Epiphany Speeches. So throw in your epic moments where what is said was infinitely more important than firing a phaser.

    Here's one:

    You know, there are some words I've known since I was a schoolboy. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably." Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. (ST:TNG The Drumhead, as said by Patrick Stewart/Captain Picard)

    That was the first one I thought of when I saw the thread title. My only problem with it is that I never know who to credit the quote to. I can't very well credit Aaron Satie, but they aren't really Picard's words either.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    bwleon7 wrote: »
    Sisko: In the Pale Moonlight

    "At oh-eight-hundred hours, station time... the Romulan Empire formally declared war against the Dominion. They've already struck fifteen bases along the Cardassian border. So, this is a huge victory for the good guys! This may even be the turning point of the entire war! There's even a "Welcome to the Fight" party tonight in the wardroom!... So... I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover up the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning of all... I think I can live with it... And if I had to do it all over again... I would. Garak was right about one thing – a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it...Because I can live with it...I can live with it. Computer – erase that entire personal log."
    Beat you to that one, a few posts back. :tongue:​​
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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,768 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    "He tasks me. He tasks me, and I shall have him. I'll chase him round the Moons of Nibia and round the Antares Maelstrom and round Perdition's flames before I give him up." — Khan (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan)

    It's a quote about not giving up and following your dreams, because your ambition and drive is what makes you who you are. Or revenge. I don't know.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    ^Just FYI, it's KHAN Noonien Singh, and Lenara KAHN. ;)
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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