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"We now have an official statement from Cryptic..."

umformtechnik#9538 umformtechnik
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edited July 2016 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
someone just posted this:
And guess what? It's pretty "cryptic"...

Update: A representative for PWE issued the following statement to Massively OP in regard to these ships: “The gold-plated T6 Ferengi ship was sent out to a select group of players as part of an e-mail specific promotion. Unfortunately we aren’t able to reveal any additional information, as it goes against our policy to protect the privacy of our community members.”

http://massivelyop.com/2016/07/20/star-trek-online-confuses-community-with-ship-giveaway/

What makes that BS though is that they don't have to reveal anyone's personal or private info just to tell people what the parameters were. They don't have to name any names. It's just the normal BS PR spin response.

Oh and guess what? They DON'T care about people's privacy when the announce their @handle whenever someone wins a lockbox ship! So they can't even keep their own logic straight.

there is one simple reason Cryptic is not telling us the "requirements" to get one of these ships: because there are none. More specifically, yes they are giving them to some big spenders, that much is clear. But they are ALSO giving them to some of their "favorite" people. The really big podcasters and defenders of the game, even though some of those people admit they haven't spent lavish amounts of money. Cryptic doesn't want to admit they are handing out ships to people on an unfair basis, so they give us a BS line about privacy

https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/4ttw2j/we_now_have_an_official_statement_from_cryptic/

so at least they said something!
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    That's not much of anything.
    I guess telling us the criteria would be giving away personal information about the folks that got it...???

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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    RNG

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    I just love how hard this company fails
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    Mirror Universe marketing at its finest.

    Be grateful we "less loyal" players aren't getting the agony booth.
  • valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    Mirror Universe marketing at its finest.

    Be grateful we "less loyal" players aren't getting the agony booth.

    Don't forget: "shoot the first one who stops applauding"
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    NOT LOYAL ENOUGH!!!
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    Oh well, I wasn't planning on using it anyways. IF I did get it.
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn
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    It's not the giveaway of a ship that really pisses me off about this, it's the principle. I'm all for truely RANDOM giveaways in this form, but not having some sort of announcement about the whole thing gives me the impression that dedicated players... be it lifers, subscribers, or very active F2Pers are getting spit in the face for our loyalty to this game (as it is). If they are doing this as a way to get inactive people back on the servers, fine! Just tell us!
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    The ship itself in kinda "meh" about, but I've been a lifer since this game was still in beta, and I've still spent plenty of money over the years. If that's not enough to qualify as unwavering support then I feel personally insulted by Cryptic
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    Maybe it was given to employees for their personal accounts as a bonus for a job well done on the expansion?
  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    Meanwhile at Cryptic...

    "Hey do you think we should put out a release letting people know they've been chosen randomly out of Facebook likes?"
    "Nah, let's keep em pulling out their credit cards, thinking If I just spent a little more I'll get something..."
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    Well, whoever came up with this idea certainly didn't understand the purpose of a promotion. It's the third time they're actively discriminating against loyal parts of the playerbase by giving some questionable preferential treatment to people who, for example, left the game as soon as a not so popular expansion was released.

    Core principle of customer relations is that you do not publicly give random preferential treatment to specific customers. Certainly not without giving everyone a fair chance to get that treatment.



    When I worked at a dolphinarium, literally the dumbest thing you could do was randomly allowing some people to enter the shows early, without having to enter the queue. You may make some people happy, but as soon as the public at large becomes aware of it, you're stuck with an angry or at least annoyed crowd who feel they're being discriminated. And since they're customers, they are always right in such cases and you cannot ignore such feelings.

    So whoever thought that it would be a good idea to not only ignore those feelings and complaints, but to do it three times over while leaving their customers (some of their most loyal ones even, so it seems) clueless as to why they're discriminated against, must have no idea how to rightly treat the playerbase/customers/visitors that keep your company alive.


  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    It's a,shame though, that they felt the need to make the statement on a third party sight and not on their official boards...
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    Telling us they can't talk about it, save to say they can't say anything, hardly qualifies as 'an official statement from Cryptic.' At least not one I can take seriously.
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  • captainperkinscaptainperkins Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    GIVE AWAY ALL FERENGI EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE EXCEPT ME!!!! I really don't care about hideous ships, especially "pimped up" with gold.

    This "community" is always complaining. If you want an ugly Ferengi ship you'll get one eventually, keep yer shirts on lieutenants!
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    What makes that BS though is that they don't have to reveal anyone's personal or private info just to tell people what the parameters were.

    Not in the sense of names and addresses but if PWE specified what qualities/stats they used anyone seen using the T6 Marauder could be immediately pegged as "that kind of person."
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Telling us they can't talk about it, save to say they can't say anything, hardly qualifies as 'an official statement from Cryptic.' At least not one I can take seriously.

    careful they might take away your ship for not having unwavering support
  • jarfarujarfaru Member Posts: 573 Arc User
    Wow You just have to wonder just how much money some of the Whales are spending in this game.
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  • xayssxayss Member Posts: 391 Arc User
    i see that new shinny gold ship in action mmmm better keep with you ship of the moment not big deal, of ship. event ships or one of many i got inmy store from c store got better status that ships is no too much diference of other ships on game ,th eppl is angry because years and years of fidelity and spend money on game this how cryptic pay to that ppl XD i got like 6 years playing sto soo much i spend 300 or 400 dollars all this time so dont care too much if they give me a ship or not for be a old member or spend money on server. so dont cry guys, is no enought when cryptic doit weeks of free aways stuff so dont get mad for a stupid thing like this ship
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    My problem with this is that the emails says "As a token of our appreciation for your unwavering support of Star Trek Online." So someone's unwavering support deserves to be rewarded while others unwavering support does not. I would assume being part of the game since February 2010 or spending over $1000 on the game are ways of showing unwavering support to the game.

    If it was part of a Charge Reward Event, which I am surprised that STO doesn't do while other PWE games like Neverwinter do, would be a great way to introduce this ship. Buying $200 on Zen for a specific weekend and transferring it to STO makes a lot of sense for this type of ship, but the complete randomness of who gets it doesn't.
  • claudiusdkclaudiusdk Member Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Not that I want that ship, I don't like the ferengi ships at all. Plus I already got the perfect ships on all my characters as it is.

    But, can confirm for people that want it, that:
    • Lifetime Subcriber (not just STO but also CO, so covering multiple games from the same company).
    • Played since closed beta.
    • Having spend lots of money on the ingame store over the years.
    • Never missed a tribble test.
    • Reported countless bugs and issues.
    • Been very active on the diffrent forums we had over time.
    • And have a perfect record with no warnings.
    Isn't any of the criteria.

    Anyway, good luck to people that want the gold ship. lol



    Edit: I don't do 3rd party social medias like facebook or twitter and stuff like that. So can't say if they have anything to do with who gets picked.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    There is another Thread where you can voice concerns about the unfairness of it all. This Thread is about the 'Official' Statement.
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  • kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    duncanidaho11 wrote: »
    What makes that BS though is that they don't have to reveal anyone's personal or private info just to tell people what the parameters were.

    Not in the sense of names and addresses but if PWE specified what qualities/stats they used anyone seen using the T6 Marauder could be immediately pegged as "that kind of person."

    This. It's a legitimate reason for not stating anything about the criteria, and it could actually say quite a lot more than you think about a player depending on the metrics used and a breach of privacy if involves spending habits or activity habits.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    claudiusdk wrote: »
    Not that I want that ship, I don't like the ferengi ships at all. Plus I already got the perfect ships on all my characters as it is.

    But, can confirm for people that want it, that:
    • Lifetime Subcriber (not just STO but also CO, so covering multiple games from the same company).
    • Played since closed beta.
    • Having spend lots of money on the ingame store over the years.
    • Never missed a tribble test.
    • Reported countless bugs and issues.
    • Been very active on the diffrent forums we had over time.
    • And have a perfect record with no warnings.
    Isn't any of the criteria.

    Anyway, good luck to people that want the gold ship. lol



    Edit: I don't do 3rd party social medias like facebook or twitter and stuff like that. So can't say if they have anything to do with who gets picked.

    Sounds like unwavering support of Star Trek Online. I wonder if it might have something to do with those Arc Quests.
  • claudiusdkclaudiusdk Member Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    starkaos wrote: »
    claudiusdk wrote: »
    Not that I want that ship, I don't like the ferengi ships at all. Plus I already got the perfect ships on all my characters as it is.

    But, can confirm for people that want it, that:
    • Lifetime Subcriber (not just STO but also CO, so covering multiple games from the same company).
    • Played since closed beta.
    • Having spend lots of money on the ingame store over the years.
    • Never missed a tribble test.
    • Reported countless bugs and issues.
    • Been very active on the diffrent forums we had over time.
    • And have a perfect record with no warnings.
    Isn't any of the criteria.

    Anyway, good luck to people that want the gold ship. lol



    Edit: I don't do 3rd party social medias like facebook or twitter and stuff like that. So can't say if they have anything to do with who gets picked.

    Sounds like unwavering support of Star Trek Online. I wonder if it might have something to do with those Arc Quests.

    I've barely started doing Arc Quests myself a few weeks ago. Not gotten enough Arc points to turn into Zen yet. But I don't think it could be related to that.
    ehh.. Who knows.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    Sounds like unwavering support of Star Trek Online. I wonder if it might have something to do with those Arc Quests.

    Nah. I didn't do any of those.
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    evilmark444 wrote: »
    The ship itself in kinda "meh" about, but I've been a lifer since this game was still in beta, and I've still spent plenty of money over the years. If that's not enough to qualify as unwavering support then I feel personally insulted by Cryptic

    It's not that I'd feel personally insulted, per se, so much as just..... I dunno, let down? I was in Beta since, like, Day 1, too, invested quite heavily in this game, both in time and monies and enthusiasm, and it's just....
    I dunno, it'd be I guess nice to have that acknowledged in some way?
    But it seems the distribution method is more random than anything, or at the very least, part of some mystifying promotional program, as stated.
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  • sniper1187sniper1187 Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    I won't spend another dollar on this game anymore. I can use the money and buy cookies.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    Now I've seen some bad PR in my day, but PWE continues to leave me dumbfounded...
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  • gholendhorgholendhor Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    These selective giveaways are a bunch of Gorn S#!T.STO is the only game they do this,I have a Neverwinter account the character is still level 8,and I had an 8 month none login status.only logged in to get a giveaway from a third party.I have never recieved an email saying we want you to come back, here is some top quality items and a level boost.Now we loyal players do get free stuff,those 4 day giveaways are nice but we only get a lower tier ship that we won't be using unless we start a new character.Try giving us some more appreciation for logging in daily and suffering through yet another full run of EVERY EPISODE,sometimes for the 5th to 10th time,depending on if you spent money to get more character slots.
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