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what would it actually take for some people to stop defending cryptic?
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i have noticed that there are some people who seem to defend cryptic no matter what they do.
example: gecko says the TOS faction will be at least as much of a faction as Romulans. it wasnt true.
but some people defend it.
or AOY winds up being the smallest faction in gaming history with only 10 missions.
but some people defend it.
what i want to know is what would it actually take for those people to not defend cryptic?
how big of a lie would they have to tel, or how bad would something have to turn out being that those people just couldnt find some way to defend it?
or would those people just make up excuses to defend it no matter what?
example: gecko says the TOS faction will be at least as much of a faction as Romulans. it wasnt true.
but some people defend it.
or AOY winds up being the smallest faction in gaming history with only 10 missions.
but some people defend it.
what i want to know is what would it actually take for those people to not defend cryptic?
how big of a lie would they have to tel, or how bad would something have to turn out being that those people just couldnt find some way to defend it?
or would those people just make up excuses to defend it no matter what?
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if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Or maybe to have that lightbulb moment that we stopped having separate missions for the three factions years ago and maybe expecting them to fritter away developer time on content that can only be run by a fraction of the player base isn't just unreasonable, it's outright STUPID.
They won't because its the only Trek game they have. And PWE knows this and milks these fans for as much money as they can. This expansion is such a joke that in any other mmo it would be an insult but not here. I just shake my head at all the pro post here. The game is nothing but a rep.grind and players do it over and over and not complain. The expansion doesn't even have full content that real expansions have in them. You go back and do the same TRIBBLE you have done for years and not complain. Really take a real look at AOY and tell how this is a real expansion. It all about getting you to open your wallet. Thats all PWE cares about. And the fact that they own the only Trek IP in gaming they are pulling out all the stops. The game has become stale and won't change until players close their wallet. But when that happens PWE probably won't renew the IP.
right. so is there anything they could do that you wouldnt defend?
or would you literally defend anything they do no matter what?
doesn't that fall under general discussions? I mean basically everything else ends up here.
granted everything thats needs said on the matter only need one sentence.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Oh here... let's go make a thread bitching about people who have better things to do than TRIBBLE about things. You're that jerk yelling at the poor girl at the customer service counter aren't you?
The focus here seems to be on the actions of other forum users instead of actual gameplay.
And, to quote some genetically engineered human: it's a stupid question (in the OP I mean). You'll always find someone who agrees with a decision and will defend it. I'm not sure what the OP is seeing but I have a feeling that he's encountered what has been called a White Knight. I'm still not sure why that is worthy of discussion in a section of the Forum that is meant for discussing game-related issues though.
Nah, if it smells, it must be the Klingons
people playing the game and the attitudes they hold about said game are game related and if the op feels a need to voice their dislike of behavior they feel is hurting the game community, which blind hate or fanboying does. it not our place to judge, thats the mods job. and if you feel it should be else where or close you shoulsd ask one to come and see what if anything needs to be done.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Nothing. Go away.
maybe until the naysayers make a better product. but it should be pure perfection. like everyone's wishes and ideas have been implemented.
I don't think Cryptic is that particularly great, it's just that I think a great deal of the STO playerbase is that much worse.
Blind hate... like the OP with his dumb assumptions where he relates faction size to the amount of episodes. That entire post, with the claim that we've been told 'lies' and the attack on people who even dared to defend Cryptic by pointing out that it's a stupid criterion that people like the OP made up themselves is the perfect example of blind hate indeed.
Instead of voicing his dislike of others' behaviour, a look in the mirror might be more useful for the OP.
ROFL i think youve been spending to much time on new romulus sir
I still like AoY a Million times better than DR. No defense needed for Cryptic here, they just kinda did the right thing here, especially considering the timing (50 years ST inbound).
actually that not blind we were told it ToS was as much a faction as rom and some people feel cryptic didn't deliver, not cryptic is bad cause cryptic but they didn't deliver. blind hate is blind not reasoned. I can give you a few other reasons why calling ToS as much a faction as roms is misleading at best. but that not the topic at hand. though that has been proven by this thread already. really if you want to call the op out on blind hate you should check you not in a glass house first.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I'm with @iconians--this thread can't be killed quickly enough.
Well, lets see. I complain, pick nits, and sometimes outright argue with Borticuscryptic and occasionally even get him to change his mind. There's a patch note in the AoY release I can say hands down was them specifically addressing one of my concerns and making things right. So not only have I not defended stuff, I've seen it change because of my objections to it.
I won't defend bad design. Ever. But good design and what some players wish would happen are pretty profoundly not equivalent. I also know a thing doesn't have to be perfect to be good and/or fun.
As a step towards getting ready to present this game to people WHO AREN'T ALREADY STO PLAYERS Agent's of Yesterday is a largely brilliant piece of design. That you and a thousand other already existing players want to get wound around the axle that they don't spend every waking second figuring out how to cater to your whims and expectations is one of those 'and on that day not a single TRIBBLE was given' days around the Cryptic offices.
Needs to be cleansed with fire or at the least a janitor with a book of matches lol
People like the OP made up an own criterion and then decided that Cryptic didn't deliver or lied based on that criterion that those players themselves came up with.
If that's not being blind to one's own foolish assumptions, then I don't know what is.
Sure, there may be other reasons why the ToS faction may or may not be as much as a faction as the Romulans. But you're right, that's not the topic of discussion here. If it was, then this thread would have had a purpose. Now it's just flame bait and ignorant whining.
so you think that you know more than a dev, and that he should defer to your design preferences. but you think its wrong if other people feel the same way as you? thats a nice double standard you have there.
Yeah, I re-read their post and I'm pretty sure they didn't say any of that.
and what criterion are they supposed to use? we told it was as much as rom. people looked at roms saw what they had assumed ToS was going to be something like that, and clearly some people found it lacking. I mean if you can't trust a person working on the game to know what it's comparable to who the hell can you trust.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.