I wasn't interested in peoples opinion about "how it would be made available" when I made this poll.
I just wondered how many folks would like to get one, their added commentary is just that, added... as in, not asked for.
If you want to know peoples opinion about HOW it will be sold, make yer own poll.
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Nah. I'd get a Kelvin type, or an Armstrong type, or even a Mayflower type if the added the option of a rollbar; but neither the Connie nor the Vengence interest me in the slightest.
Newton Type = Best Type.
Where's the official release info on the 4 KT ships?
Unfortunately none of the Pre-KT ships (Kelvin, Newton, Armstrong, or Mayflower) appear to be coming. Only the two TAR ships, the AR Constitution and the Dreadnought.
I've seen ... "rumors" ... of a klink and Romulan ship as well, though I saw a possible pic of the romulan ship and it looks nothing like the ship most would expect ...
Yes I am getting one but the problem is going to be that it is most likely a lockbox ship which will make it very hard for myself to get one. My personal opinion is and I really do not care if you disagree while this is the AR Kelvin Timeline Constitution it is still a Constitution Class ship which has been cried and begged for by the players from the beginning of the game. From a monetary point of view I can sadly understand the lockbox. But from a massive fan of Star Trek who has watched the show since I was a little boy dreaming of being on the Star Ship Enterprise I feel putting it in a lockbox is a huge slap in the face to Star Trek fans who really love to play this game. Like I said just my opinion I will not bad mouth anyone else's opinion please do not bad mouth mine.
Now I also want the Vengeance. This ship I can understand a little more being put in a lockbox but I still would like it in the C-Store with the Connie if I had my way. And even though they are AR Kelvin timeline they are Federation Starships.
I can not even imagine how much EC these two will cost if they are released in the lockbox. Makes me sad thinking about it
I assume you're taking the launch trailer as a playable-KT-ships announcement?
Your assumption would be correct.
And if this thread is still here 24 hours from now..., My assumption will be correct also.
It's been over twenty-four hours...
Guess we're both right.
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I'll only get it if it's in the c-store, otherwise I won't bother
I have no compunction spending my monthly allotment on keys, so I will open a few lockboxes now and then, but I am not gonna dump more into keys. If it's in the C-Store, I'll be right there with you though.
If its going in the C-Store I will stay home from work and buy it the MINUTE its available! My credit card will be SMOKEN I will be buying that ship so fast!
On the other hand,, if its in a Lockbox * slams wallet closed* Not a chance in HE!! will I be spending any money to TRY to get arguable the most wanted ship in STO history on ONE of my 15 characters!!! I have 6000 Zen right now, I will spend that, once that is gone, not another DIME of my money will I be spending.
Here's hoping its in the C-store!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the above. If it is in the C-Store I will buy all of Kelvin Timeline ships as soon as they come out, but I will not waist my time if they are in lockboxes.
I do have a feeling they will be in the C-Store. I do not know why people think they will be in lock boxes. I do think there will be Sphere Builder Lockboxes.
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I'll only get it if it's in the c-store, otherwise I won't bother
I have no compunction spending my monthly allotment on keys, so I will open a few lockboxes now and then, but I am not gonna dump more into keys. If it's in the C-Store, I'll be right there with you though.
If its going in the C-Store I will stay home from work and buy it the MINUTE its available! My credit card will be SMOKEN I will be buying that ship so fast!
On the other hand,, if its in a Lockbox * slams wallet closed* Not a chance in HE!! will I be spending any money to TRY to get arguable the most wanted ship in STO history on ONE of my 15 characters!!! I have 6000 Zen right now, I will spend that, once that is gone, not another DIME of my money will I be spending.
Here's hoping its in the C-store!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the above. If it is in the C-Store I will buy all of Kelvin Timeline ships as soon as they come out, but I will not waist my time if they are in lockboxes.
I do have a feeling they will be in the C-Store. I do not know why people think they will be in lock boxes. I do think there will be Sphere Builder Lockboxes.
oh sweet summer child.
1. people will pay for t6 connie, all the more reason for cryptic to make them pay more.
2. from the leaks it'll be pretty powerful. the really powerful stuff is almost always lockbox
3. it's not our universe so it's basically an alein ship that happens to look alot like a connie
4. it cryptic and their not happy if their not TRIBBLE over somebody.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
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Well, anything more than a mouthful is a waste anyway...
I probably shouldn't have gone there, but just couldn't help myself.
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Nah. I'd get a Kelvin type, or an Armstrong type, or even a Mayflower type if the added the option of a rollbar; but neither the Connie nor the Vengence interest me in the slightest.
Newton Type = Best Type.
Where's the official release info on the 4 KT ships?
Unfortunately none of the Pre-KT ships (Kelvin, Newton, Armstrong, or Mayflower) appear to be coming. Only the two TAR ships, the AR Constitution and the Dreadnought.
I've seen ... "rumors" ... of a klink and Romulan ship as well, though I saw a possible pic of the romulan ship and it looks nothing like the ship most would expect ...
I only meant Fed. I'm not sure from when the Romulan ship hails, but the Klingon one, D4 would imply it predates the ENT era D5. Though judging from the Tribble pictures it's the 100 odd metre version from Countdown to Darkness and not ID, so that is likely a fully AR design.
Edit: It's grey and not green and has a bridge and no cockpit. It's the D4-X from CtD and not ID.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Citation needed. Because that's a D7 with a extended torpedo tube caused by crappy animation.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Citation needed. Because that's a D7 with a extended torpedo tube caused by crappy animation.
It's the Klothos which is identified as a D5 by Kor in "Once more unto the Breach". Conclusion: Differences between a D5 and D7 are either mostly internal or possibly ship size.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Kor? The Klingon with dementia? I assume he just thought it'd sound more badass to claim he fought a 23ed century Constitution with a 22nd century D5 and then forgot he was lieing.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Kor? The Klingon with dementia? I assume he just thought it'd sound more badass to claim he fought a 23ed century Constitution with a 22nd century D5 and then forgot he was lieing.
Come on, that's just as bad of an explanation as saying Picard is delusional or lying about Starfleet's nature.
I know people love the TRIBBLE out of retcons, but you can't just create a new ship and then claim it's an already canonical design now. The fault is on ENT's side here, the show that also brought us "Klingon Warbirds" (which was declared, of course, a "honest mistake" and has to be discarded from canon - until the AR movies came along and simply adapted the mistake. I hate all of them. The whole bunch. Argh.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Kor? The Klingon with dementia? I assume he just thought it'd sound more badass to claim he fought a 23ed century Constitution with a 22nd century D5 and then forgot he was lieing.
Come on, that's just as bad of an explanation as saying Picard is delusional or lying about Starfleet's nature.
I know people love the **** out of retcons, but you can't just create a new ship and then claim it's an already canonical design now. The fault is on ENT's side here, the show that also brought us "Klingon Warbirds" (which was declared, of course, a "honest mistake" and has to be discarded from canon - until the AR movies came along and simply adapted the mistake. I hate all of them. The whole bunch. Argh.
There's a key difference. Klingons lie and Kor is losing his memory. Picard is neither of those things.
The Klingon Warbird never bothered me in the slightest. Both Klingons and Romulans have a Bird of Prey Class, turns out they also both have a Warbird Class.
Anyway, we'll soon see. When the Blue-Ray of TAS comes out and full CGI replacements for cell drawn ships are used. We'll see the proper D5s in their rightful place. Still with hand drawn purple uniformed Klingons though, he original tone has to be maintained.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Anyway, we'll soon see. When the Blue-Ray of TAS comes out and full CGI replacements for cell drawn ships are used. We'll see the proper D5s in their rightful place. Still with hand drawn purple uniformed Klingons though, he original tone has to be maintained.
Has there been an announcement, or are you just hoping?
I've never watched TAS. That might be an opportunity.
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Anyway, we'll soon see. When the Blue-Ray of TAS comes out and full CGI replacements for cell drawn ships are used. We'll see the proper D5s in their rightful place. Still with hand drawn purple uniformed Klingons though, he original tone has to be maintained.
Has there been an announcement, or are you just hoping?
I've never watched TAS. That might be an opportunity.
Just wishful thinking. TOS had a wonderful remastering that really streamlined the experience. TNG was stuck with a half-arsed one where the studio changed every series meaning nothing was consistent between them, Borg weapon and shield effects on Q Who and BoBW were different, the Ent D phasers were different shades between series, even planets like Vulcan had different looks (incidentally different from their TOS:R looks as well) and it was all a bit of a botched job.
TAS on the other hand is simple drawn animation, remastering it would be as simple as redrawing or recolouring parts of it. Obviously not with CGI models as with my joke above, but freshly drawn ones.
Hope springs eternal though.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Has there been an announcement, or are you just hoping?
I've never watched TAS. That might be an opportunity.
There haven't been any announcements, but I can't imagine they will actually change the source material. I can see them correcting long standing colouring issues (for instance, grey Andorians, purple Klingon and Kzinti uniforms and wrong starfleet uniforms) but I don't see them changing actual ships and scenery, after all it's animation from the seventies. Interfering would really disturb the overall style I'm afraid whereas the TOS and TNG remasterings worked surprisingly well, aside from the issues @artan42 mentioned. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the D5/D7 issue isn't even of knowledge to the people in charge of remastering TAS - honestly, at this point I think CBS rather ignores such mistakes and leaves it to the fanbase to fight about it instead of taking a stance either way.
Overall, you can watch TAS online. There's really no need to wait for the blu-ray to do so as there's not much they can do besides changing the image format. And not watching TAS now because it's not optimized for 16:10 and 1080p is really not a good reason
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Has there been an announcement, or are you just hoping?
I've never watched TAS. That might be an opportunity.
There haven't been any announcements, but I can't imagine they will actually change the source material. I can see them correcting long standing colouring issues (for instance, grey Andorians, purple Klingon and Kzinti uniforms and wrong starfleet uniforms) but I don't see them changing actual ships and scenery, after all it's animation from the seventies. Interfering would really disturb the overall style I'm afraid whereas the TOS and TNG remasterings worked surprisingly well, aside from the issues @artan42 mentioned. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the D5/D7 issue isn't even of knowledge to the people in charge of remastering TAS - honestly, at this point I think CBS rather ignores such mistakes and leaves it to the fanbase to fight about it instead of taking a stance either way.
In TOS:R they changed the use of the Botany Bay as a Starfleet cargo ship to the Robot Drone thing from TAS. They changed a Romulan D7 to a T'liss. Changing the Bonaventure to a new ship (and not a malformed Constitution) or a D7 to a D5 wouldn't be all that different.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
In TOS:R they changed the use of the Botany Bay as a Starfleet cargo ship to the Robot Drone thing from TAS. They changed a Romulan D7 to a T'liss. Changing the Bonaventure to a new ship (and not a malformed Constitution) or a D7 to a D5 wouldn't be all that different.
I know, I meant changing them in TAS. In TOS:R the CGI works because there were originally virtually no exterior shots (aside from the orbiting scenes and the stock "fire" clip), they recreated all of them from scratch and thus could find a uniform style. In TAS that's different and while it's just drawn it has a very distinctive style. The ne ships would have to be perfectly in line and that INCLUDES questionable geometry and low details, otherwise I would find it very disrupting.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
In TOS:R they changed the use of the Botany Bay as a Starfleet cargo ship to the Robot Drone thing from TAS. They changed a Romulan D7 to a T'liss. Changing the Bonaventure to a new ship (and not a malformed Constitution) or a D7 to a D5 wouldn't be all that different.
I know, I meant changing them in TAS. In TOS:R the CGI works because there were originally virtually no exterior shots (aside from the orbiting scenes and the stock "fire" clip), they recreated all of them from scratch and thus could find a uniform style. In TAS that's different and while it's just drawn it has a very distinctive style. The ne ships would have to be perfectly in line and that INCLUDES questionable geometry and low details, otherwise I would find it very disrupting.
It's probably harder to draw badly than well for an artist, but I'm sure it could be managed. There's somebody on the internet who made a series 3 of TAS, their first few episodes were recuts of existing ones but later ones included newly drawn elements and it looks genuine. I've been trying to find it since I brought up TAS.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
It's probably harder to draw badly than well for an artist, but I'm sure it could be managed. There's somebody on the internet who made a series 3 of TAS, their first few episodes were recuts of existing ones but later ones included newly drawn elements and it looks genuine. I've been trying to find it since I brought up TAS.
That would be an interesting find
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
It's probably harder to draw badly than well for an artist, but I'm sure it could be managed. There's somebody on the internet who made a series 3 of TAS, their first few episodes were recuts of existing ones but later ones included newly drawn elements and it looks genuine. I've been trying to find it since I brought up TAS.
That would be an interesting find
@angrytarg Look back at my post. I found it. There's only two episodes though which makes me think there's two lots of people doing this because the episode I saw had Orions in.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I'll give it a try. Why should I work when I can watch Star Trek fan episodes. I hate myself.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I'll give it a try. Why should I work when I can watch Star Trek fan episodes. I hate myself.
Work is for those who have run out of TV shows to watch .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I wasn't interested in peoples opinion about "how it would be made available" when I made this poll.
I just wondered how many folks would like to get one, their added commentary is just that, added... as in, not asked for.
If you want to know peoples opinion about HOW it will be sold, make yer own poll.
The problem is, the method of availability will impact on whether people will spend money on it or not. You don't really get one without the other.
I think the point is more that if one wants to debate the delivery method of this content, then this isn't the poll or thread for that debate. Of course that method will affect someone's choice, and thus poll result. And obviously people can share that. It's when the discussion goes beyond that into a debate of that method, that it starts to elevate beyond the boundaries of the simple poll here.
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I just wondered how many folks would like to get one, their added commentary is just that, added... as in, not asked for.
If you want to know peoples opinion about HOW it will be sold, make yer own poll.
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Yes, I'm going to get one. And a Vengeance if possible.
I've seen ... "rumors" ... of a klink and Romulan ship as well, though I saw a possible pic of the romulan ship and it looks nothing like the ship most would expect ...
Now I also want the Vengeance. This ship I can understand a little more being put in a lockbox but I still would like it in the C-Store with the Connie if I had my way. And even though they are AR Kelvin timeline they are Federation Starships.
I can not even imagine how much EC these two will cost if they are released in the lockbox. Makes me sad thinking about it
It's been over twenty-four hours...
Guess we're both right.
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I agree with the above. If it is in the C-Store I will buy all of Kelvin Timeline ships as soon as they come out, but I will not waist my time if they are in lockboxes.
I do have a feeling they will be in the C-Store. I do not know why people think they will be in lock boxes. I do think there will be Sphere Builder Lockboxes.
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1. people will pay for t6 connie, all the more reason for cryptic to make them pay more.
2. from the leaks it'll be pretty powerful. the really powerful stuff is almost always lockbox
3. it's not our universe so it's basically an alein ship that happens to look alot like a connie
4. it cryptic and their not happy if their not TRIBBLE over somebody.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Yay!
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
Hummmnnn....
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its prolly her ample nacelles... too big for some
I probably shouldn't have gone there, but just couldn't help myself.
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I only meant Fed. I'm not sure from when the Romulan ship hails, but the Klingon one, D4 would imply it predates the ENT era D5. Though judging from the Tribble pictures it's the 100 odd metre version from Countdown to Darkness and not ID, so that is likely a fully AR design.
Edit: It's grey and not green and has a bridge and no cockpit. It's the D4-X from CtD and not ID.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Once again, TRIBBLE ENT and their nonsense.
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Citation needed. Because that's a D7 with a extended torpedo tube caused by crappy animation.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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It's the Klothos which is identified as a D5 by Kor in "Once more unto the Breach". Conclusion: Differences between a D5 and D7 are either mostly internal or possibly ship size.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Come on, that's just as bad of an explanation as saying Picard is delusional or lying about Starfleet's nature.
I know people love the TRIBBLE out of retcons, but you can't just create a new ship and then claim it's an already canonical design now. The fault is on ENT's side here, the show that also brought us "Klingon Warbirds" (which was declared, of course, a "honest mistake" and has to be discarded from canon - until the AR movies came along and simply adapted the mistake. I hate all of them. The whole bunch. Argh.
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There's a key difference. Klingons lie and Kor is losing his memory. Picard is neither of those things.
The Klingon Warbird never bothered me in the slightest. Both Klingons and Romulans have a Bird of Prey Class, turns out they also both have a Warbird Class.
Anyway, we'll soon see. When the Blue-Ray of TAS comes out and full CGI replacements for cell drawn ships are used. We'll see the proper D5s in their rightful place. Still with hand drawn purple uniformed Klingons though, he original tone has to be maintained.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I've never watched TAS. That might be an opportunity.
Just wishful thinking. TOS had a wonderful remastering that really streamlined the experience. TNG was stuck with a half-arsed one where the studio changed every series meaning nothing was consistent between them, Borg weapon and shield effects on Q Who and BoBW were different, the Ent D phasers were different shades between series, even planets like Vulcan had different looks (incidentally different from their TOS:R looks as well) and it was all a bit of a botched job.
TAS on the other hand is simple drawn animation, remastering it would be as simple as redrawing or recolouring parts of it. Obviously not with CGI models as with my joke above, but freshly drawn ones.
Hope springs eternal though.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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There haven't been any announcements, but I can't imagine they will actually change the source material. I can see them correcting long standing colouring issues (for instance, grey Andorians, purple Klingon and Kzinti uniforms and wrong starfleet uniforms) but I don't see them changing actual ships and scenery, after all it's animation from the seventies. Interfering would really disturb the overall style I'm afraid whereas the TOS and TNG remasterings worked surprisingly well, aside from the issues @artan42 mentioned. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the D5/D7 issue isn't even of knowledge to the people in charge of remastering TAS - honestly, at this point I think CBS rather ignores such mistakes and leaves it to the fanbase to fight about it instead of taking a stance either way.
Overall, you can watch TAS online. There's really no need to wait for the blu-ray to do so as there's not much they can do besides changing the image format. And not watching TAS now because it's not optimized for 16:10 and 1080p is really not a good reason
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In TOS:R they changed the use of the Botany Bay as a Starfleet cargo ship to the Robot Drone thing from TAS. They changed a Romulan D7 to a T'liss. Changing the Bonaventure to a new ship (and not a malformed Constitution) or a D7 to a D5 wouldn't be all that different.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I know, I meant changing them in TAS. In TOS:R the CGI works because there were originally virtually no exterior shots (aside from the orbiting scenes and the stock "fire" clip), they recreated all of them from scratch and thus could find a uniform style. In TAS that's different and while it's just drawn it has a very distinctive style. The ne ships would have to be perfectly in line and that INCLUDES questionable geometry and low details, otherwise I would find it very disrupting.
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It's probably harder to draw badly than well for an artist, but I'm sure it could be managed. There's somebody on the internet who made a series 3 of TAS, their first few episodes were recuts of existing ones but later ones included newly drawn elements and it looks genuine. I've been trying to find it since I brought up TAS.
Edit: found it.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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That would be an interesting find
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@angrytarg Look back at my post. I found it. There's only two episodes though which makes me think there's two lots of people doing this because the episode I saw had Orions in.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I'll give it a try. Why should I work when I can watch Star Trek fan episodes. I hate myself.
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Work is for those who have run out of TV shows to watch
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I think the point is more that if one wants to debate the delivery method of this content, then this isn't the poll or thread for that debate. Of course that method will affect someone's choice, and thus poll result. And obviously people can share that. It's when the discussion goes beyond that into a debate of that method, that it starts to elevate beyond the boundaries of the simple poll here.
At least that was how I read the commentary.