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Please let us see the Ent J

doctornexdoctornex Member Posts: 30 Arc User
edited May 2016 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Omg it'd be so cool if we could fight at Procyon V and see the Enterprise J and maybe even fight on a ground map of the Enterprise J too and meet Daniels OMG please devs please and maybe bring us the Vengeance too maybe please? PS also a JJprise and maybe a Klingon D4? Please
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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • doctornexdoctornex Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    There's zero chance of a player Ent J.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    the ent-j's saucer is bigger than most ground maps... no thanks... let it be part of the background art during the battle sure.
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  • thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada
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    doctornex wrote: »
    There's zero chance of a player Ent J.

    The darkest timeline.
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  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,278 Arc User
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    If they DID give us an enterprise J, how would we get it into the Dyson spheres? Would we have to switch to our shuttle?
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    everytime I see that image of the ent-j I like the JJprize more
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  • thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada
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    kodachikuno wrote: »
    everytime I see that image of the ent-j I like the JJprize more

    Eh. It works if you realize the ship is all Doctor Who on the inside where they mess with spacetime as part of the framing. It explains the angles of the windows and the thinness of the saucer.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    thekodanarmada#7342 wrote: »
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    everytime I see that image of the ent-j I like the JJprize more

    Eh. It works if you realize the ship is all Doctor Who on the inside where they mess with spacetime as part of the framing. It explains the angles of the windows and the thinness of the saucer.

    I wasnt referring to the mechanics of it... I just think the pancake-prise is far FAR more fugly than the JJprize
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    doctornex wrote: »
    Omg it'd be so cool if we could fight at Procyon V and see the Enterprise J and maybe even fight on a ground map of the Enterprise J too and meet Daniels OMG please devs please and maybe bring us the Vengeance too maybe please? PS also a JJprise and maybe a Klingon D4? Please

    Patience, young Padawan eager young space cadet... patience... :wink:

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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    Thank You @storules for letting us see the Ent-J...
  • therealmaddmatttherealmaddmatt Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    The D4 concept is already available in the C-Store as the Koro't'inga, and its skin can be used on the T5U/fleet K't'inga. Unfortunately, it's not actually canon, since they wound up using the regular K't'inga model in the series instead.

    Unless you mean the D4 from Into Darkness, in which case all bets are off...
  • thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada
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    therealmaddmatt wrote: »
    The D4 concept is already available in the C-Store as the Koro't'inga, and its skin can be used on the T5U/fleet K't'inga. Unfortunately, it's not actually canon, since they wound up using the regular K't'inga model in the series instead.

    Unless you mean the D4 from Into Darkness, in which case all bets are off...

    The surprising implication of any of that coming to STO: ships would be allowed on ground maps again.

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  • doctornexdoctornex Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    therealmaddmatt wrote: »
    Unless you mean the D4 from Into Darkness, in which case all bets are off...
    Yes, that's what I mean.

  • doctornexdoctornex Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    Also if we could get a playable ship kinda-sorta like the Narada but maybe smaller that'd be awesome too. Kk thx devs luv u :smiley:
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    It's coming. Don't you worry.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    therealmaddmatt wrote: »
    The D4 concept is already available in the C-Store as the Koro't'inga, and its skin can be used on the T5U/fleet K't'inga. Unfortunately, it's not actually canon, since they wound up using the regular K't'inga model in the series instead.

    Unless you mean the D4 from Into Darkness, in which case all bets are off...

    I believe that the Koro't'inga is actually the D6.
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    Ent-J is the lamest looking one. Looks like a CGI that they only intended to have on screen for a few seconds in one episode... oh wait...
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    kjwashington wrote: »
    It's coming. Don't you worry.

    I must be behind on the lea ... er ... "news" :)
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    evilmark444 wrote: »
    kjwashington wrote: »
    It's coming. Don't you worry.

    I must be behind on the lea ... er ... "news" :)

    What? I mean with all this time travel, it must be inevitable. ;)
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    The Sagittarius class (T6 Temporal Cruiser) certainly looks like it inspired the Enterprise-J with its design. Just remove the extra bottom pair of nacelles and a few other minor changes and you have the Enterprise-J.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,559 Community Moderator
    starkaos wrote: »
    The Sagittarius class (T6 Temporal Cruiser) certainly looks like it inspired the Enterprise-J with its design. Just remove the extra bottom pair of nacelles and a few other minor changes and you have the Enterprise-J.

    Its possible that its from the same era as the Ent-J, hence the design similarities.

    IMO the Ent-J is just too big for a player ship. She'd dwarf even the Tholian Tarantula, and that's one of the biggest player ships in the game. And before anyone says Scimitar, I'm talking mass wise as well as length. The Scimitar's size is mostly in its wings, while the Tarantula is bulk.

    I think the Ent-J might be the size of 2 or 3 Voth Citadel Dreads put together at least.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,559 Community Moderator
    With how fragile the nacelle struts look even compared to the TOS Connie... size would have to be a factor. From a distance they might look ready to break if you breath on them, but up close they could be as thick as the Defiant is wide.

    While you are right about no on screen scale for size, we do gotta consider that each successive Enterprise has been bigger, typically a member of one of the most advanced classes of their respective eras.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • dragonseye1138dragonseye1138 Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    Doug Drexler (who incidentally designed the Enterprise-J) said that the saucer was two miles (3.21 kilometers) wide. and I think I read that his intention was that the warp nacelles weren't actually physically attached to the ship. That they were held in place by *insert appropriate Treknobabble/ Elven Space Magic*. Also that the ship was so massive, that she didn't have turbolifts. Instead, they used transporters to get from one part of the ship to another. Drexler theorized that the ship would be capable of travelling not just to other galaxies, but to other universes as well.

    Furthermore, the statement about a designer's word not being cannon only goes so far. When Cryptic redesigned sector space, they made a concerted effort to match up as many star systems as possible with their locations in the Star Trek Starcharts book, even though that book is in no way canon.

    If Cryptic did decide to bring the Ent-J into the game (most likely as a set piece for the inevitable battle of Procyon V), I would bank on her being very close to Drexler's original vision.
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  • doctornexdoctornex Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    coolbatman wrote: »
    I think the pancake-prise is far FAR more fugly than the JJprize..... between the 2 of them (gagging&choking here) the JJprize wins nacelles down.........
    I don't get it. Say what you will about NuTrek but the JJprise is a lovely ship.

  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    dragonseye1138 wrote: »
    Doug Drexler (who incidentally designed the Enterprise-J) said that the saucer was two miles (3.21 kilometers) wide. and I think I read that his intention was that the warp nacelles weren't actually physically attached to the ship. That they were held in place by *insert appropriate Treknobabble/ Elven Space Magic*. Also that the ship was so massive, that she didn't have turbolifts. Instead, they used transporters to get from one part of the ship to another. Drexler theorized that the ship would be capable of travelling not just to other galaxies, but to other universes as well.

    Furthermore, the statement about a designer's word not being cannon only goes so far. When Cryptic redesigned sector space, they made a concerted effort to match up as many star systems as possible with their locations in the Star Trek Starcharts book, even though that book is in no way canon.

    If Cryptic did decide to bring the Ent-J into the game (most likely as a set piece for the inevitable battle of Procyon V), I would bank on her being very close to Drexler's original vision.

    A more appropriate comparison is what the designer of the Akira wanted for it and the Heavy Escort Carrier. Then there is the Vesta ships, Odyssey, and Chimera which all had the original creator's input even if they were just a fan of the game that was chosen by a contest.

    If we ever get the Enterprise-J, then it would be 2 miles wide, called the Universe-class, and have some highly advanced engines. Although, if we do see it in STO, I don't see it as a playable ship, but as a mission location. Probably find a heavily damaged one and we have to help it get repaired or keep it out of the hands of some hostile alien force. There is absolutely no need to see the ship move since it is supposed to be able to fold space so the devs would only need some visual FX.
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