You guys forgetting about the T'Liss already? Balance of Terror introduced us to a TOS Romulan ship.
That ship is already in-game
True but there is no t6 Rommie D7 or proper Klingon t6 D7. Remember, the TOS skin for the Klingon D7 is old and badly in need of some of Jamz Jamze's magic.
Exactly. When Feddybears get so many new ships, Klingons (and Romulans) would deserve at least reskin of D7
Ripped directly off the Arc pack content description
T6 Temporal Multi-Mission Science Vessel Eternal Class
While equipped with cutting-edge scientific technology, the Eternal-class was designed to fulfill a number of roles in the field. Built to operate alone on the frontier or as part of a fleet, the Eternal is a versatile part of 31st century Starfleet.
Yes, the new T6 temporal ships are 31st century, but I'm not sure why you're mentioning that when I was referencing the Wells/Korath/R'Mor.
And this? This is the preexisting Wells-class, a Federation-exclusive lockbox ship.
The temporal sci ship is cross faction, KDF get the Korath and Romulans get the R'Mor on opening the box.
Yes, and Korath and R'Mor are distinctively Klingon- and Romulan-flavored, which is exactly my point. Craptic has already given up on creating unique content for the other two factions, and now they're even giving up on creating unique ships. They're saying "play Fed or suck it". And I refuse to accept that.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
And this? This is the preexisting Wells-class, a Federation-exclusive lockbox ship.
The temporal sci ship is cross faction, KDF get the Korath and Romulans get the R'Mor on opening the box.
Yes, and Korath and R'Mor are distinctively Klingon- and Romulan-flavored, which is exactly my point. Craptic has already given up on creating unique content for the other two factions, and now they're even giving up on creating unique ships. They're saying "play Fed or suck it". And I refuse to accept that.
Given how much more I play my Romulans, I would love to agree, but what exactly are you gonna do?? Can I haz ur stuff? :P
Given how much more I play my Romulans, I would love to agree, but what exactly are you gonna do??
Find a place to express one's displeasure in no uncertain terms? Like an official forum?
Not saying you, but I'm not sure why others feel it's so absolutely wrong to say "I don't like this, and here is why." I wonder if they point and laugh at people returning items at stores, because they like those items.
Given how much more I play my Romulans, I would love to agree, but what exactly are you gonna do??
Find a place to express one's displeasure in no uncertain terms? Like an official forum?
Not saying you, but I'm not sure why others feel it's so absolutely wrong to say "I don't like this, and here is why." I wonder if they point and laugh at people returning items at stores, because they like those items.
my point was only that "aside from ragequitting" what other options do you really have to "not stand for it"?? If he/she/it believes there is some meaningful way of protestation or getting through to cryptic, I'm all for helpin out. These fora have proven time and again to be ineffective.
Exactly. When Feddybears get so many new ships, Klingons (and Romulans) would deserve at least reskin of D7
Usually, when people resort to name-calling, it's because they've run out of viable arguments, knowing they've lost the discussion.
Then the people who called me a kindergardner, blithering moron, and blithering buffoon in another thread must have run out of arguements.
His particular reference seems a tad mild compared to what i was called.
What is truly sad is they probably think they wounded me, they don't know me, it is not possible to insult me.
I guess that means i won the arguement (which i did), sadly they dont know it, i also won the discussion, they are still jumping with glee at their infantile name calling and lost discussion as we speak.
Klingon and rommy ships?, ill believe it when i see it.
Now wait a minute. Just because they haven't announced them YET doesn't mean they WON'T. There is a new primary specialization coming out, along with ships explicitly said to function with a temporal flavor. Why, that's a lot like the intel, command, and pilot ships of yesterseason. Each one of THEM had a unique mechanic, and a specialization to go with it, and the KDF and Romulans weren't left out of those ones: indeed, each got a unique line of ships, ugly or not, that were uniquely Klingon or Romulan to match their UFP counterparts. Why should a unique temporal specialization and ship line be left out of the mix with them, too? Just wait and see.
And this? This is the preexisting Wells-class, a Federation-exclusive lockbox ship.
The temporal sci ship is cross faction, KDF get the Korath and Romulans get the R'Mor on opening the box.
Yes, and Korath and R'Mor are distinctively Klingon- and Romulan-flavored, which is exactly my point. Craptic has already given up on creating unique content for the other two factions, and now they're even giving up on creating unique ships. They're saying "play Fed or suck it". And I refuse to accept that.
Given how much more I play my Romulans, I would love to agree, but what exactly are you gonna do?? Can I haz ur stuff? :P
Patrickngo already suggested a sort of "KDF Pride" protest where we all dig out our KDF and KDF-Rom toons and refuse to play Fed for a while. Those on Twitter and Reddit can also bombard the devs directly whenever they start patting themselves on the back about this.
As for me, I'm voting with my wallet. I haven't paid a penny this entire season because I'm disgusted with the time war plot and with them reducing the Cardassians to a sideshow in their own story arc. This "Play Fed or suck it" expansion just gives me a reason to continue that practice. And I'm saying this as a primarily Fed player.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
And this? This is the preexisting Wells-class, a Federation-exclusive lockbox ship.
The temporal sci ship is cross faction, KDF get the Korath and Romulans get the R'Mor on opening the box.
Yes, and Korath and R'Mor are distinctively Klingon- and Romulan-flavored, which is exactly my point. Craptic has already given up on creating unique content for the other two factions, and now they're even giving up on creating unique ships. They're saying "play Fed or suck it". And I refuse to accept that.
Given how much more I play my Romulans, I would love to agree, but what exactly are you gonna do?? Can I haz ur stuff? :P
Patrickngo already suggested a sort of "KDF Pride" protest where we all dig out our KDF and KDF-Rom toons and refuse to play Fed for a while. Those on Twitter and Reddit can also bombard the devs directly whenever they start patting themselves on the back about this.
As for me, I'm voting with my wallet. I haven't paid a penny this entire season because I'm disgusted with the time war plot and with them reducing the Cardassians to a sideshow in their own story arc. This "Play Fed or suck it" expansion just gives me a reason to continue that practice. And I'm saying this as a primarily Fed player.
Well I haven't opened my wallet since I bought my battlecruiser 3pack mid DR, so I've done that. I've logged less than 72hrs on both my fed alts in the last 3 months, compared to my near exclusive play on my Rom main in her Morrigu. So I've done that :P
Don't have a twittard or reddit so cant go there. Guess I'm already doin what's available :P
Now wait a minute. Just because they haven't announced them YET doesn't mean they WON'T. There is a new primary specialization coming out, along with ships explicitly said to function with a temporal flavor. Why, that's a lot like the intel, command, and pilot ships of yesterseason. Each one of THEM had a unique mechanic, and a specialization to go with it, and the KDF and Romulans weren't left out of those ones: indeed, each got a unique line of ships, ugly or not, that were uniquely Klingon or Romulan to match their UFP counterparts. Why should a unique temporal specialization and ship line be left out of the mix with them, too? Just wait and see.
Yeah, the new T6 ships are Galactic Union ships. There's no real reason for ANY of them to be Fed only.
Now wait a minute. Just because they haven't announced them YET doesn't mean they WON'T. There is a new primary specialization coming out, along with ships explicitly said to function with a temporal flavor. Why, that's a lot like the intel, command, and pilot ships of yesterseason. Each one of THEM had a unique mechanic, and a specialization to go with it, and the KDF and Romulans weren't left out of those ones: indeed, each got a unique line of ships, ugly or not, that were uniquely Klingon or Romulan to match their UFP counterparts. Why should a unique temporal specialization and ship line be left out of the mix with them, too? Just wait and see.
Like with the Delta pack?
Like with the t6 carrier?
It's funny, all of the same people are saying the same wait/be patient/don't overreact/stfu as were saying it those times, when they were wrong. Why is this magically different somehow?
Now wait a minute. Just because they haven't announced them YET doesn't mean they WON'T. There is a new primary specialization coming out, along with ships explicitly said to function with a temporal flavor. Why, that's a lot like the intel, command, and pilot ships of yesterseason. Each one of THEM had a unique mechanic, and a specialization to go with it, and the KDF and Romulans weren't left out of those ones: indeed, each got a unique line of ships, ugly or not, that were uniquely Klingon or Romulan to match their UFP counterparts. Why should a unique temporal specialization and ship line be left out of the mix with them, too? Just wait and see.
Like with the Delta pack?
Like with the t6 carrier?
It's funny, all of the same people are saying the same wait/be patient/don't overreact/stfu as were saying it those times, when they were wrong. Why is this magically different somehow?
Deep irony that the only faction in this game with an actual canon fighter carrier design still has yet to get a two-hangar carrier of its own at any tier.
Anybody wants to borrow the sigpic GIF I made, feel free.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Which is silly since the KDF and ROM don't exist in the 31st century just the Federation. Cryptic should be more careful about things like this. Time travel has a way of wrecking continuity.
It's not really a question of time travel wrecking continuity, so much as Cryptic probably hadn't planned that far ahead when creating the Temporal Science Vessel and the Temporal Destroyer.
We know now that KDF/RRF versions of them shouldn't exist, because in the prime universe the Klingons and Romulans join the Federation and in the mirror universe the Terran Empire conquers them. That's why the Paradox and these new future ships are cross-faction. But the temporal lockbox was made in 2012 (and the Romulan versions of the ships added in 2013), they wouldn't likely have written this year's plot development 3-4 years in advance.
And let's face it, they can't just turn all those ships into Wells' and Mobius' now, even if they do have the exact same stats, because people would go ballistic. And it would honestly be a shame to just remove 4 perfectly good ship designs because they aren't exactly story-appropriate anymore. They should IMO make them all cross-faction, let the players choose which version they want when opening the box, then explain the not-really-supposed-to-exist designs as originating from other timelines or something like that.
Which is silly since the KDF and ROM don't exist in the 31st century just the Federation. Cryptic should be more careful about things like this. Time travel has a way of wrecking continuity.
It's not really a question of time travel wrecking continuity, so much as Cryptic probably hadn't planned that far ahead when creating the Temporal Science Vessel and the Temporal Destroyer.
We know now that KDF/RRF versions of them shouldn't exist, because in the prime universe the Klingons and Romulans join the Federation and in the mirror universe the Terran Empire conquers them. That's why the Paradox and these new future ships are cross-faction. But the temporal lockbox was made in 2012 (and the Romulan versions of the ships added in 2013), they wouldn't likely have written this year's plot development 3-4 years in advance.
And let's face it, they can't just turn all those ships into Wells' and Mobius' now, even if they do have the exact same stats, because people would go ballistic. And it would honestly be a shame to just remove 4 perfectly good ship designs because they aren't exactly story-appropriate anymore. They should IMO make them all cross-faction, let the players choose which version they want when opening the box, then explain the not-really-supposed-to-exist designs as originating from other timelines or something like that.
Or the future equivalent of the D'Kyr. They could be the same ship just redecorated.
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Exactly. When Feddybears get so many new ships, Klingons (and Romulans) would deserve at least reskin of D7
Usually, when people resort to name-calling, it's because they've run out of viable arguments, knowing they've lost the discussion.
Like the follow-up to the Jupiter for KDF and Romulans. Oh wait, bad example...
More like when they said more ships would be added for the Delta Pack. No, sorry, another bad example...
Seriously, though, it's not like they completely ignored Romulan and KDF science vessels. Whoops...
BTW did yall notice the new scotty model is in an outfit first seen in STV?
Yes, the new T6 temporal ships are 31st century, but I'm not sure why you're mentioning that when I was referencing the Wells/Korath/R'Mor.
And there will be no unity with the Federation scum.
Whats a KLANK? New species?
Yes, and Korath and R'Mor are distinctively Klingon- and Romulan-flavored, which is exactly my point. Craptic has already given up on creating unique content for the other two factions, and now they're even giving up on creating unique ships. They're saying "play Fed or suck it". And I refuse to accept that.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Given how much more I play my Romulans, I would love to agree, but what exactly are you gonna do?? Can I haz ur stuff? :P
Find a place to express one's displeasure in no uncertain terms? Like an official forum?
Not saying you, but I'm not sure why others feel it's so absolutely wrong to say "I don't like this, and here is why." I wonder if they point and laugh at people returning items at stores, because they like those items.
my point was only that "aside from ragequitting" what other options do you really have to "not stand for it"?? If he/she/it believes there is some meaningful way of protestation or getting through to cryptic, I'm all for helpin out. These fora have proven time and again to be ineffective.
Then the people who called me a kindergardner, blithering moron, and blithering buffoon in another thread must have run out of arguements.
His particular reference seems a tad mild compared to what i was called.
What is truly sad is they probably think they wounded me, they don't know me, it is not possible to insult me.
I guess that means i won the arguement (which i did), sadly they dont know it, i also won the discussion, they are still jumping with glee at their infantile name calling and lost discussion as we speak.
Klingon and rommy ships?, ill believe it when i see it.
Patrickngo already suggested a sort of "KDF Pride" protest where we all dig out our KDF and KDF-Rom toons and refuse to play Fed for a while. Those on Twitter and Reddit can also bombard the devs directly whenever they start patting themselves on the back about this.
As for me, I'm voting with my wallet. I haven't paid a penny this entire season because I'm disgusted with the time war plot and with them reducing the Cardassians to a sideshow in their own story arc. This "Play Fed or suck it" expansion just gives me a reason to continue that practice. And I'm saying this as a primarily Fed player.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Well I haven't opened my wallet since I bought my battlecruiser 3pack mid DR, so I've done that. I've logged less than 72hrs on both my fed alts in the last 3 months, compared to my near exclusive play on my Rom main in her Morrigu. So I've done that :P
Don't have a twittard or reddit so cant go there. Guess I'm already doin what's available :P
My character Tsin'xing
The T2 daedalus class looks like 2 potato guns, a basketball, and a milk can glued together.
The $20 starter pack doesn't even include the only one i thought didn't look like mud.
Like with the Delta pack?
Like with the t6 carrier?
It's funny, all of the same people are saying the same wait/be patient/don't overreact/stfu as were saying it those times, when they were wrong. Why is this magically different somehow?
My character Tsin'xing
Deep irony that the only faction in this game with an actual canon fighter carrier design still has yet to get a two-hangar carrier of its own at any tier.
Anybody wants to borrow the sigpic GIF I made, feel free.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
It's not really a question of time travel wrecking continuity, so much as Cryptic probably hadn't planned that far ahead when creating the Temporal Science Vessel and the Temporal Destroyer.
We know now that KDF/RRF versions of them shouldn't exist, because in the prime universe the Klingons and Romulans join the Federation and in the mirror universe the Terran Empire conquers them. That's why the Paradox and these new future ships are cross-faction. But the temporal lockbox was made in 2012 (and the Romulan versions of the ships added in 2013), they wouldn't likely have written this year's plot development 3-4 years in advance.
And let's face it, they can't just turn all those ships into Wells' and Mobius' now, even if they do have the exact same stats, because people would go ballistic. And it would honestly be a shame to just remove 4 perfectly good ship designs because they aren't exactly story-appropriate anymore. They should IMO make them all cross-faction, let the players choose which version they want when opening the box, then explain the not-really-supposed-to-exist designs as originating from other timelines or something like that.
My character Tsin'xing