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AFKers in Mirror Invasion

jon1764jon1764 Member Posts: 81 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
So another year, another event, every single instance there is at least one AFKer (in a Miranda) who just either stays in one corner of a map doing nothing, or lets itself get shot at until death and stays that way, and leaves once it gets their reward box. I filed a report and got the standard response aka "we'll will be conducting a full investigation blah blah blah..."

Does Cryptic actually do anything with these reports? It is hard to enjoy a game when you have leechers in every single instance. Do they seriously get a marks box for doing absolutely nothing during the event?
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,162 Arc User
    Yeah... we just five manned afked it.

    five ships sitting to one side... wait for the dreadnought to spawn... pop that... and...

    126 marks ... repeat.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    thay8472 wrote: »
    Yeah... we just five manned afked it.

    five ships sitting to one side... wait for the dreadnought to spawn... pop that... and...

    126 marks ... repeat.

    Well invite me along next time you selfish git.​​
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  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I'm glad to see that the anti-AFK crowd is still around. :| It would have been nice if the freezing, the SNR's, the DC's, the crashes, and the like that plague this game and push players out of action weren't. I would much prefer they deal with whatever i wreaking havoc on the game. I cannont complete one mirror invasion or story mission or battlezone event with out being removed from action. And if I'm in a mission that includes other players, I look like I'm leeching for marks.
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    Wait, there are still people who don't afk mirror invasion?

    Why would you put yourself through that?
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    One of the many reasons why Anti-AFK mechanics were put in. There should be more heavy handed ones.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    Yeah, I don't AFK it. People who do should not receive the transporter device, nor any marks or anything.

    Unfortunately they do. And they're proud of getting something for nothing. They even think it's fair. Next thing you know they'll want all the dilithium from mining without having to play the minigame.
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  • grazyc2#7847 grazyc2
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    echatty wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't AFK it. People who do should not receive the transporter device, nor any marks or anything.

    Unfortunately they do. And they're proud of getting something for nothing. They even think it's fair. Next thing you know they'll want all the dilithium from mining without having to play the minigame.

    Well I'm not an AFK person I even hate it when it happens but on the other hand I give my blessing for it seeing how many countless times you have to do the mission for such low amount of prize money it really ain't worth the trouble ...
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    kirk2390 wrote: »
    echatty wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't AFK it. People who do should not receive the transporter device, nor any marks or anything.

    Unfortunately they do. And they're proud of getting something for nothing. They even think it's fair. Next thing you know they'll want all the dilithium from mining without having to play the minigame.

    Well I'm not an AFK person I even hate it when it happens but on the other hand I give my blessing for it seeing how many countless times you have to do the mission for such low amount of prize money it really ain't worth the trouble ...

    Than why bother doing it in the first place?

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  • xparr15xparr15 Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    I would care if better performance led to better completion time. I cared last year but it takes me 2.5 hours per day right now to finish it on my toons (I want the dil). I don't AFK but I will only report people if they AFK the dreadnought.
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    xparr15 wrote: »
    I would care if better performance led to better completion time. I cared last year but it takes me 2.5 hours per day right now to finish it on my toons (I want the dil). I don't AFK but I will only report people if they AFK the dreadnought.

    Exactly. The Dreadnought is the only important part of the mission.

    If there was some way of speeding the mission up before that point, then the rate of afkers (in that mission at least) would plummet.
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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    The mission is TRIBBLE - a 10-15 minute long time-gated custscene. However, either EVERYONE should AFK or no one should. And if you are going to AFK, it is proper etiquette to do a private room.
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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    peetapipmac wrote: »
    xparr15 wrote: »
    I would care if better performance led to better completion time. I cared last year but it takes me 2.5 hours per day right now to finish it on my toons (I want the dil). I don't AFK but I will only report people if they AFK the dreadnought.

    Exactly. The Dreadnought is the only important part of the mission.

    If there was some way of speeding the mission up before that point, then the rate of afkers (in that mission at least) would plummet.

    Exactly. If the players could reap the benefits and rewards of their combat and teamwork prowess, it would be great, but yet, we have a scripted slog.
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    And because you mentioned that you can just afk the entire first phase now we will be called bad little boys and girls who are exploiters and thieves and the forums shall burn
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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    semalda226 wrote: »
    And because you mentioned that you can just afk the entire first phase now we will be called bad little boys and girls who are exploiters and thieves and the forums shall burn

    If thats what it takes to make special-event content FUN again, so be it. I'll bring the hot dogs.
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    I'll bring the popcorn!
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  • semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Yes...I can see it now...a vision from the future....

    I see a glorious gold-pressed latinum case and a dev's hand flipping the latches on it...

    As it opens we hear the screams of thousands of players begging for mercy...

    And out of the case comes the legendary nerfbat...the Tau Dewa Nerfbat...hungering for a taste of us naughty exploiters....

    And then it happens... the bat is swung...and thousands cry out in fear and in rage....as all of our work is blown away...

    Then silence...the damage is done...the flames begin rising...and the forums shall burn...
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    welcome2earf wrote: »
    semalda226 wrote: »
    And because you mentioned that you can just afk the entire first phase now we will be called bad little boys and girls who are exploiters and thieves and the forums shall burn

    If thats what it takes to make special-event content FUN again, so be it. I'll bring the hot dogs.

    Bah, all we have to do is to get cryptic to shrink the available map space so AFKing isn't practically possible. That or to make it more feasible to lead NPC hordes into offending players (which is always how I like to try dealing with the problem in other games.)
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    I knew this thread would pop up sooner or later. It always does. Just a waste of bytes.
  • architect13architect13 Member Posts: 1,076 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    thay8472 wrote: »
    Yeah... we just five manned afked it.

    five ships sitting to one side... wait for the dreadnought to spawn... pop that... and...

    126 marks ... repeat.

    You need to start up a Channel . . . Mirror AFK. Oh, and invite me next time, running 10 a day.
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    It could be worse. You could have some idiot in a NX-01 T1 light escort with 6 injuries, and yes that actually happened to me. Surprisingly we did pretty good. lol
  • fovrelfovrel Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    Well, if you can win the battle without a fight or with hardly any fighting, that should do it. Anybody with some ideas about combat and tactics should stick to such a concept. Anybody who doesn't is a fool.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    duncanidaho11 wrote: »
    welcome2earf wrote: »
    semalda226 wrote: »
    And because you mentioned that you can just afk the entire first phase now we will be called bad little boys and girls who are exploiters and thieves and the forums shall burn

    If thats what it takes to make special-event content FUN again, so be it. I'll bring the hot dogs.

    Bah, all we have to do is to get cryptic to shrink the available map space so AFKing isn't practically possible. That or to make it more feasible to lead NPC hordes into offending players (which is always how I like to try dealing with the problem in other games.)
    Which would mean absolutely nothing ,since dying in this game means absolutely nothing.

    Phase 1 was designed as a 10 minute wait. Expecting players to spend that 10 minutes fighting a a meaningless battle for a few extra rep marks is silly.

    As long as your actions dont have any effect on the outcome of the mission, you might as well do nothing.
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    It would be incorrect to say that people are "AFK". Although they certainly aren't doing very much, many of them are there, probably chatting. You can even talk to them.

    "Leeching", similarly, is also incorrect. People in Mirror are not leeching, they are there to earn their Thingummies by blowing up the Dreadnought.

    But it's a public queue. You can't force people to play the way you want them to. I don't get to scream at you for turning on that damn repulsor wave and generally making the last stage more annoying any more than you get to scream that I choose not to take counterproductive actions like doing said things, or pointless actions that will not actually advance the purpose of why many of us are in there.

    When you storm off in a huff 5 minutes in, the only thing you've accomplished is wasting 5 minutes of your time. We're not there for you, and frankly, your presence is superfluous to our goals, which is why, after you storm off in a huff, we're completing the mission the way we intended to complete it, in the same amount of time that it always takes.

    And no, they don't do anything with these reports. Reports about player behavior go to PWE, and the PWE GMs have already declared that doing nothing is not considered a crime, as people complained a lot on Neverwinter, too.

    You know this works both ways, so the people who pop in doing absolutely nothing, is in fact forcing their own agenda on others, who would prefer to obtain those few extra marks!!!
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    So, I was running this tonite on an alt, and noticed a player who was, looking at the map, right in the thick of things, but wasn't there. I started looking around and they were directly above me, over 40 km up!

    They had a pretty familiar fleet tag, and if not for the point that the first stage of the queue is basically pointless, I would have been pretty peaved. Instead, I chuckled and tried kiting some Mirror ships up to them, just to say "Hi!" Turns out, they already had a cadre of Mirror ships they had apparently brought along already. Oh, what fun...
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    Wish there was a friendly fire option to fry AFK's!
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    shadowwraith77 wrote: »
    You know this works both ways, so the people who pop in doing absolutely nothing, is in facr forcing their own agenda on others, who would prefer to obtain those few extra marks!!!

    Well you can do your own private queue filled with like minded individuals that enjoy doing a completely pointless activity, this isnt CC were participation means at least it ends sooner ... this is just pointless 10 minutes of nothing

    Its not even like Old MI were there were groups that after being destroyed summoned the boss, if it was that one you would have a point but its not.

    Well, like some others have pointed out, it is a public queue, so those who prefer the lazy ones do something, have just as much right to ask it, as those who are too lazy to ask for not to do it!!!

    Door swings both ways.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    shadowwraith77 wrote: »
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    shadowwraith77 wrote: »
    You know this works both ways, so the people who pop in doing absolutely nothing, is in facr forcing their own agenda on others, who would prefer to obtain those few extra marks!!!

    Well you can do your own private queue filled with like minded individuals that enjoy doing a completely pointless activity, this isnt CC were participation means at least it ends sooner ... this is just pointless 10 minutes of nothing

    Its not even like Old MI were there were groups that after being destroyed summoned the boss, if it was that one you would have a point but its not.

    Well, like some others have pointed out, it is a public queue, so those who prefer the lazy ones do something, have just as much right to ask it, as those who are too lazy to ask for not to do it!!!

    Door swings both ways.

    You can always ask. Nobody's going to care, though.

    Because doing admiralty/doffing gives better reward than the peanuts you get for closing those stupid rifts.
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