Omega, for it feels like the Jupiter finally got taken serious and put into a proper design she deserves. Plus, I can't help but feel the Sigma already exists, as the Nomad-class.
This is a complete farce, we all knew the Omega was going to win the second this whole thing started. I'm getting so tired of these arrow point quad nacelle designs...
Yeah, I was suspecting of it from the beginning. We already knew there would be a bias to Jupiter-esque designs. That's why they wanted to burn the nice Beta design as quickly as possible since it had only two nacelles. Their ultimate plan is to burn all the good designs first so they can settle with any ugly version that wins. Now poor Sigma (the best design in my opinion) is getting hit with Jupiter bias too.
I'm going with #teamomega. I like the length & sleekness of the nacelles. I'm still a little sad Delta didn't get voted in. I'm a sucker for round saucers.
My prediction of the four results was correct !
Hmm was it down to the predictability of the community or was it down to my super clairvoyant powers? maybe it was sheer luck. Who knows but I was correct.
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Again all very boring, but this will just be the anniversary free ship it seems.
What on earth makes you think this is gonna end up a free anniversary ship? They say this contest will take place over the next two months and the anniversary isn't till February.
They said the voting will be done in two months i don't think they said the ship will be out in two months.
Well, good to know that I have been consistent. I have picked the losing design in EVERY one of these contests... My big thing is of the last 4 ships, only 1 has a hull... The other 3 are all saucer machines. I am really married to the hull on my ship... How you gonna get saucer separation without a hull? I love saucer separation, it is the best addition to this game. I wish more ships had it. Although I will admit, I do not like any of these as a total ship design, but there are pieces I would love to pick and pull to make a great ship.
Again all very boring, but this will just be the anniversary free ship it seems.
What on earth makes you think this is gonna end up a free anniversary ship? They say this contest will take place over the next two months and the anniversary isn't till February.
They said the voting will be done in two months i don't think they said the ship will be out in two months.
Part of the contest's timeline is "launch" so assuming that two month timeline is including "launch" then it's coming out some time around November/December, not February.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
Well, good to know that I have been consistent. I have picked the losing design in EVERY one of these contests... My big thing is of the last 4 ships, only 1 has a hull... The other 3 are all saucer machines. I am really married to the hull on my ship... How you gonna get saucer separation without a hull? I love saucer separation, it is the best addition to this game. I wish more ships had it. Although I will admit, I do not like any of these as a total ship design, but there are pieces I would love to pick and pull to make a great ship.
Saucer sep on a carrier in this game was never going to be a thing, one does not get two hangars PLUS a separation pet. Besides, the only "separation" power that really makes sense in this game from a combat perspective is mult-vector-assault-mode. Galaxy class type ships popping their top doesn't make much sense unless you are going to leave the saucer BEHIND to protect civilians, popping it off in the middle of a battle field where it has way limited combat capability when under its own power is foolish and was only done in that one episode of TNG as a desperate diversionary tactic.
Plus separation pets really need a whole heap of love from the devs to make them work. They blow up way too easily and there's no hud to let you know how they are doing. They need to receive the benefits of whatever boff powers their mothership is using (at the very least heals/defensive buffs if not offensive powers too). Carriers can at least spit out new pets rather quickly when the launched ones get destroyed, but typically within seconds of popping off a separation pet, it's dead in the water and can't get back into action without reconnecting and a loooong cooldown.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
Results imminent! Or does "Midnight on 10/7" mean voting lasts until tonight?
voting lasts until midnight tonight, so results of sigma-v-omega and the start of alpha-v-gamma should come tomorrow. Hopefully with the "more details" we were promised to give us a better look at alpha and gamma.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
I tend to just pop the saucer on my GCS and forget about it. The point of it is to up agility and firepower, not to mention exploit the fact that cutting the crew to 100 makes the ship MORE durable.
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I tend to just pop the saucer on my GCS and forget about it. The point of it is to up agility and firepower, not to mention exploit the fact that cutting the crew to 100 makes the ship MORE durable.
Are we getting back to the discussion of how the crew mechanic is broken? Lol. I really hope the devs address that at some point... by which I mean, making it work, not the lazy "let's get rid of it" that they suggested before.
I'm just saying saucer separation doesn't make sense from a canon perspective to be used in combat the way it is, especially when the devs apparently also have that mentality of "pop it and forget about it." At the very least having a hud for it so you can keep an eye out for it, but I would make them immune to warp core breaches since the AI is an idiot that won't avoid them and any heal/defense buff on the mother ship is automatically shared with the separated pets so that they get taken care of simply as part of the mother ship taking care of itself.
I mean the separated pets are SUPPOSED to supplement your damage as part of the deal, they just really fall flat in that regard because they die so easily.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
@jamesmerlinkirk : And that makes it a better design for a CARRIER how, exactly?
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Omega is Fat and ugly Sigma is a better more compact disign
yea cause CARRIERS are supposed to be compact right? like a slimlined Escort? ermmmm wait....NO WRONG. Sigma (and some of the other "compact" Designs) could be great Escorts or Battle Cruisers, but NOT Carriers. Omega is one of the Few Designs in this Contest that somewhat looks like it could be a Carrier.
....Galaxy class type ships popping their top doesn't make much sense unless you are going to leave the saucer BEHIND to protect civilians, popping it off in the middle of a battle field where it has way limited combat capability when under its own power is foolish and was only done in that one episode of TNG as a desperate diversionary tactic....
This. I've never liked saucer separation in the game for this reason. Many Federation ships from the 23rd century up had saucer seperation ability but it was a dangerous maneuver only to be used as a last-resort in the cause of catastrophic emergencies. While it was more routine by the 24th century but was still an emergency maneuver except on ships like the Prometheus. Most ships, the seperated saucer was not a combat tactic.
To all Omega / Jupiter fans, have any of you seen an aircraft carrier, they are long/big/slow to move ships and do not get into any fire fights. They stay outside the battle zone!!! So, that design would mean the ship needs to be Extra big to hold a large number of fighters/shuttles/runabouts, that is why most Starships need a secondary hull in Federation designs. Huge starship people!!! Limited fire power with 3 to 4 squadrons will be needed to do battle
Actually, the Galaxy-class has its primary hangars at the aft edge of the saucer. So does the Odyssey if you look closely at the model. It's only on the smaller ships like the Connie and Intrepid where they use the secondary hull. The secondary hull tends to be taken up mainly by the matter/antimatter reactor that powers the warp drive.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Looking back, I think I should've just gone with my original thoughts of Sigma..Omega will likely trounce any designit comes up against, even my precious Alpha!
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Yeah, I was suspecting of it from the beginning. We already knew there would be a bias to Jupiter-esque designs. That's why they wanted to burn the nice Beta design as quickly as possible since it had only two nacelles. Their ultimate plan is to burn all the good designs first so they can settle with any ugly version that wins. Now poor Sigma (the best design in my opinion) is getting hit with Jupiter bias too.
Bah. Nothing we can do. : (
Hmm was it down to the predictability of the community or was it down to my super clairvoyant powers? maybe it was sheer luck. Who knows but I was correct.
Anybody want their future's reading just say and for a SMALL (based on c-store price model) fee we can work something out ! You can see my credibility posted in the forums so I have nothing to prove other than I can predict the future with ease.
They said the voting will be done in two months i don't think they said the ship will be out in two months.
They should release the most popular of the four losers as an alternate carrier. So Feds get a Sci & Tact carrier.
Part of the contest's timeline is "launch" so assuming that two month timeline is including "launch" then it's coming out some time around November/December, not February.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
Saucer sep on a carrier in this game was never going to be a thing, one does not get two hangars PLUS a separation pet. Besides, the only "separation" power that really makes sense in this game from a combat perspective is mult-vector-assault-mode. Galaxy class type ships popping their top doesn't make much sense unless you are going to leave the saucer BEHIND to protect civilians, popping it off in the middle of a battle field where it has way limited combat capability when under its own power is foolish and was only done in that one episode of TNG as a desperate diversionary tactic.
Plus separation pets really need a whole heap of love from the devs to make them work. They blow up way too easily and there's no hud to let you know how they are doing. They need to receive the benefits of whatever boff powers their mothership is using (at the very least heals/defensive buffs if not offensive powers too). Carriers can at least spit out new pets rather quickly when the launched ones get destroyed, but typically within seconds of popping off a separation pet, it's dead in the water and can't get back into action without reconnecting and a loooong cooldown.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
voting lasts until midnight tonight, so results of sigma-v-omega and the start of alpha-v-gamma should come tomorrow. Hopefully with the "more details" we were promised to give us a better look at alpha and gamma.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Are we getting back to the discussion of how the crew mechanic is broken? Lol. I really hope the devs address that at some point... by which I mean, making it work, not the lazy "let's get rid of it" that they suggested before.
I'm just saying saucer separation doesn't make sense from a canon perspective to be used in combat the way it is, especially when the devs apparently also have that mentality of "pop it and forget about it." At the very least having a hud for it so you can keep an eye out for it, but I would make them immune to warp core breaches since the AI is an idiot that won't avoid them and any heal/defense buff on the mother ship is automatically shared with the separated pets so that they get taken care of simply as part of the mother ship taking care of itself.
I mean the separated pets are SUPPOSED to supplement your damage as part of the deal, they just really fall flat in that regard because they die so easily.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Personally I'd say Sigma is the one that looks fat
yea cause CARRIERS are supposed to be compact right? like a slimlined Escort? ermmmm wait....NO WRONG. Sigma (and some of the other "compact" Designs) could be great Escorts or Battle Cruisers, but NOT Carriers. Omega is one of the Few Designs in this Contest that somewhat looks like it could be a Carrier.
Myself I believe Tie Fighters would be more realistic.
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